What if Sony loses Naughty Dog?

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#1 j2zon2591
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What if Sony loses Naughty Dog?

How much impact would that cause to the current PlayStation branding?

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#3 deactivated-5b883bb846c10
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Not ever happening. Even if they do they'll still own the IPs to Uncharted and Last of Us. They'll also most likely keep most of the Naughty Dog talent who are loyal to Sony.

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#4  Edited By SolidTy
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What if...

I guess anti-insert console here fanboys will keep dreaming up scenarios?

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Since they are atop 4 and top 5 GOAT dev, I will follow them wherever they go.

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#6 Morf-muziks
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If Sony loses ND Lems would celebrate their secret fetish for Cinematic movie games. But for now teh cinematic is the only argument Lems have against Sony even though their exclusives are filled with cinematic walkers

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#7 Lionheart08
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Only way for Sony has as much chance of losing Naughty Dog as EA has of losing Bioware.

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#8  Edited By freedomfreak
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It would be extremely painful.

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#9  Edited By lamprey263
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MS could buy Naughty Dog, but PlayStation fanboys and subversive elements in gaming media would turn on them and nothing would change, they'd just put more importance on other things, like uberniche weeaboo JRPGs exclusive to the PS brand.

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#10 remiks00
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@SolidTy said:

What if...

I guess anti-insert console here fanboys will keep dreaming up scenarios?

Lol

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#11  Edited By SolidTy
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@lamprey263 said:

MS could buy Naughty Dog, but PlayStation fanboys....

They could?

How? They aren't an independent studio like Insomniac.

Sony owns the ND studio since the PS2 days and the original Jak and Daxter games.

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#12  Edited By Wasdie  Moderator
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That would be a significant blow to the Playstation brand to lose Naughty Dog as an exclusive developer. I don't think it would kill them, but it would hurt.

Though interesting to think about, there is no chance it'll ever happen.

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What if Nintendo loses Monolith?

Wait... what?

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#15 osan0
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well thats it. stop producing PS4s. retire the brand and leave the console industry. shut down PSN also. probably best to just shut down sony as a whole too. what would be the point of continuing? :P.

seriosuly though....not much would happen. PS was around when ND were making second rate platformers (ok crash 3 was decent...or was it crash 2?) and it would continue without ND.

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@lamprey263 said:

MS could buy Naughty Dog, but PlayStation fanboys and subversive elements in gaming media would turn on them and nothing would change, they'd just put more importance on other things, like uberniche weeaboo JRPGs exclusive to the PS brand.

Uh they can't. But I guess you can dream.

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#17  Edited By Skelly34
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No one except Sony fanboys would care.

Kind of like how no one except Sony fanboys care about ND right now.

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#18  Edited By lamprey263
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@LJS9502_basic said:
@lamprey263 said:

MS could buy Naughty Dog, but PlayStation fanboys and subversive elements in gaming media would turn on them and nothing would change, they'd just put more importance on other things, like uberniche weeaboo JRPGs exclusive to the PS brand.

Uh they can't. But I guess you can dream.

I meant that in the whole "what if thing", this whole thread is a hypothetical.

In other words, it's my belief it'd do nothing to PlayStation branding, just a shift in emphasis in what defines it.

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#19 Ant_17
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What if MS lost Bungie? Oh wait , that happended and the lems hate Bungie for it.

So i guess the same will happen to ND.

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#20 LJS9502_basic
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@skelly34 said:

No one except Sony fanboys would care.

Kind of like how no one except Sony fanboys care about ND now.

You have definitely been in SW too long....

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Civilization of cows will be vanished from Planet Earth and Sony will be left with Zero interesting developers.

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#22 Skelly34
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@Cloud_imperium said:

Civilization of cows will be vanished from Planet Earth and Sony will be left with Zero interesting developers.

But ND isn't an interesting developer.

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#23 Cloud_imperium
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@skelly34 said:
@Cloud_imperium said:

Civilization of cows will be vanished from Planet Earth and Sony will be left with Zero interesting developers.

But ND isn't an interesting developer.

I think they are currently the best devs Sony has. They are inconsistent as hell, sure but I think when they want, they can make a great game. Of course a lot of cows treat them as savior of mankind but at the end of the day they make good games IMO.

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Only chance that would happen is if Sony sells it's gaming division... which won't happen.

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#25 j2zon2591
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@magicalclick said:

Cows will find something else to hype, like DC and Order.

lol

@Wasdie said:

That would be a significant blow to the Playstation brand to lose Naughty Dog as an exclusive developer. I don't think it would kill them, but it would hurt.

Though interesting to think about, there is no chance it'll ever happen.

Any ideas if ND has a blank check/they can keep demanding budget from Sony for their projects?

@Ant_17 said:

What if MS lost Bungie? Oh wait , that happended and the lems hate Bungie for it.

So i guess the same will happen to ND.

I don't know much about MS-Bungie relationship but was Bingie an actual 1st party studio?

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#26  Edited By Ant_17
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@j2zon2591: If they weren't , MS spent some crazy cash to have them for 2 gens.

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You can pick out the Cows in this thread by looking at those who refuse to play along.

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Lot's of shitty threads lately.

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#29 Frank_Castle
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@skelly34 said:

No one except Sony fanboys would care.

Kind of like how no one except Sony fanboys care about ND right now.

Munchin' on jelly beans, are ya?

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#30 Mr_Huggles_dog
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What if MS lost Halo?

What if Nintendo lost Miyamoto?

What if the moon crashed into the earth?

What if Star Citizen got canned?

What if the world exploded tomorrow?

What if an asteroid hit the earth?

What if I gave a shit about stupid theory questions that were presented just so ppl could bash the Playstation community?

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#31 Ant_17
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

What if MS lost Halo?

What if Nintendo lost Miyamoto?

What if the moon crashed into the earth?

What if Star Citizen got canned?

What if the world exploded tomorrow?

What if an asteroid hit the earth?

What if I gave a shit about stupid theory questions that were presented just so ppl could bash the Playstation community?

Nothing.

Nothing.

Death.

Nothing.

Death.

Death.

And Nothing again.

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@magicalclick said:

Cows will find something else to hype, like DC and Order.

this^

if ND wasn't exclusive to sony, they would be way less popular as a 3rd party studio. there games just aren't very good. There not even in sony's top 3 studios I'd take SSM, suckerpunch, and GG over them anyday

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@Ant_17 said:

@j2zon2591: If they weren't , MS spent some crazy cash to have them for 2 gens.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bungie

I just looked a bit..

"MS aqcuired Bungine in 2000.. for MS Xbox, Halo CE.. Halo become X's killer app.. Oct. 5, 2007, split from MS and become a privately held independent comp.. MS retains Halo IP"

I wonder if ND could do the same thing, make their own UC/TLoU-ish game then hope for a wider audience (PC, Xbox, PlayStation).

As I posted earlier, perhaps Sony gives the studio blanks checks or really high budget to keep them around. IDK.

Do you think the studio would lose its appeal (lower ratings, etc.) by going the PC, MS, PS routes?

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@mr_huggles_dog said:

What if MS lost Halo?

What if Nintendo lost Miyamoto?

What if the moon crashed into the earth?

What if Star Citizen got canned?

What if the world exploded tomorrow?

What if an asteroid hit the earth?

What if I gave a shit about stupid theory questions that were presented just so ppl could bash the Playstation community?

What the?

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Not ever happening. Even if they do they'll still own the IPs to Uncharted and Last of Us. They'll also most likely keep most of the Naughty Dog talent who are loyal to Sony.

I agree its unlikely to happen, but how do you know who has personal feelings of loyalty? LOL

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@lamprey263 said:

MS could buy Naughty Dog, but PlayStation fanboys and subversive elements in gaming media would turn on them and nothing would change, they'd just put more importance on other things, like uberniche weeaboo JRPGs exclusive to the PS brand.

Dude MS could buy Sony multiple times over it doesn't mean it will happen.

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@j2zon2591 said:
@Ant_17 said:

@j2zon2591: If they weren't , MS spent some crazy cash to have them for 2 gens.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bungie

I just looked a bit..

"MS aqcuired Bungine in 2000.. for MS Xbox, Halo CE.. Halo become X's killer app.. Oct. 5, 2007, split from MS and become a privately held independent comp.. MS retains Halo IP"

I wonder if ND could do the same thing, make their own UC/TLoU-ish game then hope for a wider audience (PC, Xbox, PlayStation).

As I posted earlier, perhaps Sony gives the studio blanks checks or really high budget to keep them around. IDK.

Do you think the studio would lose its appeal (lower ratings, etc.) by going the PC, MS, PS routes?

Depends.

They will have to make something new so maybe it will be great , or just meh.

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@Heil68 said:

Since they are atop 4 and top 5 GOAT dev, I will follow them wherever they go.

Pretty interesting that USGamer didn't have any Naughty Dog games in their top 15 games the past 15 years

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What if sony stopped making consoles altogether? The answer is nobody cares until we have to cross that bridge...

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#40  Edited By Blizzard2188
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As far as I know, Sony owns Naughty Dog. So they would have to willingly sell it to lose it. Like how Nintendo owned Rare and decided to put them up for sale and that's how MS got Rare. If Sony decides to ever sell Naughty Dog, then that probably means that aren't that great of a dev anymore.

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What if sony stopped making consoles altogether? The answer is nobody cares until we have to cross that bridge...

I can see their Sony owned studios going third party and still profiting or the PlayStation segment building towards Game Streaming (heavier PS Now/Cloud investment).

Probably investors would care and certain Sony fans would probably not like it.

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What if Microsoft loses Epic and Bungie... oh wait.

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@j2zon2591 said:
@the_funyarinpa said:

What if sony stopped making consoles altogether? The answer is nobody cares until we have to cross that bridge...

I can see their Sony owned studios going third party and still profiting or the PlayStation segment building towards Game Streaming (heavier PS Now/Cloud investment).

Probably investors would care and certain Sony fans would probably not like it.

The point is this; is there a reason you ask this question. Did Naughty Dog do an interview and say they are open to do games on all platforms? Did Sony say they are not going to have an exclusive deal with Naughty Dog anymore? Unless there is something, its just a bunch of "What ifs" that nobody cares about. I could make a forum saying "what if microsoft, sony and nintendo all joined together to make 1 console for next gen" discuss everyone. Nobody would care cause there is nothing to suggest that would be the case.

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@ten_pints said:

What if Microsoft loses Epic and Bungie... oh wait.

Thanks for bringing that up. I'll be looking more a bit into epic later unless someone could give some gist.

Was Epic a 1st party studio?

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sony is 100% sure to buy all the reviwers it can and also make its cartoonish graphics be praised

its 100% chance of sucess (among the fanboys at least)

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@j2zon2591 said:
@ten_pints said:

What if Microsoft loses Epic and Bungie... oh wait.

Thanks for bringing that up. I'll be looking more a bit into epic later unless someone could give some gist.

Was Epic a 1st party studio?

I was trying to look this up about Bungie. Epic has always been a third party developer but had a contract deal with MS for Gears of War with MS owning the gears franchise. Bungie i'm not so sure, I though they bought them and owned them. But it looks like they didn't sell them either.

I wonder if Bungie came to Microsoft and explained they didn't want to do Halo anymore and a deal was made that they get to go if MS gets to keep the Halo franchise. I don't know if MS owned Halo before as Halo was in development on Mac before MS bought Bungie.

The difference though is that Sony does own Naughty Dog completely. The only thing I could think of is if they owned them under a timed contract.

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@cainetao11 said:
@lamprey263 said:

MS could buy Naughty Dog, but PlayStation fanboys and subversive elements in gaming media would turn on them and nothing would change, they'd just put more importance on other things, like uberniche weeaboo JRPGs exclusive to the PS brand.

Dude MS could buy Sony multiple times over it doesn't mean it will happen.

But that's not the point really, this is about would it under hypothetical circumstances of Sony losing Naughty Dog would it effect PS's branding. I say no, because they'd just shift focus of other games as the games that define the PlayStation. PlayStation brand has gone quite a long way not needing to maintain a solid IP as a central theme of their system, not like say Nintendo to their key franchises or MS to Halo.

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@lamprey263 said:
@cainetao11 said:
@lamprey263 said:

MS could buy Naughty Dog, but PlayStation fanboys and subversive elements in gaming media would turn on them and nothing would change, they'd just put more importance on other things, like uberniche weeaboo JRPGs exclusive to the PS brand.

Dude MS could buy Sony multiple times over it doesn't mean it will happen.

But that's not the point really, this is about would it under hypothetical circumstances of Sony losing Naughty Dog would it effect PS's branding. I say no, because they'd just shift focus of other games as the games that define the PlayStation. PlayStation brand has gone quite a long way not needing to maintain a solid IP as a central theme of their system, not like say Nintendo to their key franchises or MS to Halo.

I hear ya bro. I'm drunk LOL PS has done great at not really choosing one thing but having great games to play.

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@cainetao11 said:
@blessedbyhorus said:

Not ever happening. Even if they do they'll still own the IPs to Uncharted and Last of Us. They'll also most likely keep most of the Naughty Dog talent who are loyal to Sony.

I agree its unlikely to happen, but how do you know who has personal feelings of loyalty? LOL

I'm just saying the Bungie talent who were loyal to Xbox stayed with MS. The same can happen with Naughty Dog and Playstation...

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#50  Edited By cainetao11
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@blessedbyhorus said:
@cainetao11 said:
@blessedbyhorus said:

Not ever happening. Even if they do they'll still own the IPs to Uncharted and Last of Us. They'll also most likely keep most of the Naughty Dog talent who are loyal to Sony.

I agree its unlikely to happen, but how do you know who has personal feelings of loyalty? LOL

I'm just saying the Bungie talent who were loyal to Xbox stayed with MS. The same can happen with Naughty Dog and Playstation...

I didn't see it as loyal to MS but liking the IP and paycheck probably offered. Maybe you're right.