What are the top 5 PC graphics kings?

As for games that are out now and un-modded, what are your top 5 graphics kings on PC?

Crysis

Metro 2033

Arma 2

Mirros Edge

Bad Company 2.

Crysis, for obvious reasons

Metro 2033, again for obvious reasons

Halflife 2, for matching beauty with performance; the game will run on any rig, and look great doing so. Incredible textures.

ArmA 2, for rendering incredibly large outdoor areas beautifuly, despite running like a beast

Homeworld, for being over 10 years old and still looking amazing.

Why even add the "PC" to the title. Just add graphics kings.

We already know it only involves the PC.

I don't really have a list of 5. There are too many.

Coming up soon will be The Witcher 2 and Shogun 2.

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Why even add the "PC" to the title. Just add graphics kings.

We already know it only involves the PC.

I don't really have a list of 5. There are too many.

Coming up soon will be The Witcher 2 and Shogun 2.

Hakkai007

because when you dont add ''PC'' people will start throwing around games like Uncharted 2 and Halo Reach.

for me its:

1. Crysis
2. Metro 2033
3. Arma 2
4. STALKER: Call of Pripyat
5. Empire: Total War

Why even add the "PC" to the title. Just add graphics kings.

We already know it only involves the PC.

I don't really have a list of 5. There are too many.

Coming up soon will be The Witcher 2 and Shogun 2.

Hakkai007

Wow. That looks absolutely amazing. I'd probably need another 5870 to run it.

Stalker CoP is better looking than BC2, Mirrors Edge and even Arma 2.abuabed

Wow. That looks absolutely amazing. I'd probably need another 5870 to run it.

BluRayHiDef

Well I saw on steam they had an 8800gt listed under the requirements.

I am guessing it is the minimum but there was no indication of that.

I think one 5870 would be enough to max it out.

Here are some more screenshots of that battle.

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Wow, The Witcher 2 is beautiful!

The top 3 are clear to me:

1. Crysis / Warhead
2. Arma 2 / Operation Arrowhead
3. Metro 2033

After that it gets trickier, technically it would propably be something like Shattered Horizon or Total War. But personally I'd give it to Batman AA and Resident Evil 5 for better overall presentation.

Soon though the list will have Crysis 2, Witcher 2 and Shogun 2. All look outstanding.

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Wow. That looks absolutely amazing. I'd probably need another 5870 to run it.

Hakkai007

Well I saw on steam they had an 8800gt listed under the requirements.

I am guessing it is the minimum but there was no indication of that.

I think one 5870 would be enough to max it out.

Here are some more screenshots of that battle.

Looking at those images gives me the impression that a card like the GTX 580 or the HD 5970 would be needed to play it decently. It looks really demanding.

Looking at those images gives me the impression that a card like the GTX 580 or the HD 5970 would be needed to play it decently. It looks really demanding.

BluRayHiDef

then again, it's running on consoles too. obviously not looking that good, but you are able to tone down the settings on PC.

Looking at those images gives me the impression that a card like the GTX 580 or the HD 5970 would be needed to play it decently. It looks really demanding.

BluRayHiDef

Well While it looks great I doubt it will be that demanding.

Here is the demo footage video of that boss fight.

It's low res and off screen so it won't look good but it shows you the game in motion.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gc-10-the-witcher/703366

jesus christ those witcher 2 pics look amazing...

then again, it's running on consoles too. obviously not looking that good, but you are able to tone down the settings on PC.

groowagon

It's not running on consoles.

ProjecktCD said that by the end of 2011 after the game has been released on PC for over half a year they will take a look at what they can do and if they like the results they will bring it out to consoles.

So they won't even start developing for consoles until 2012.

I think they may bring it out for next gen consoles a few years from now.

Some companies will do that.

Like how Half Life 1 was released in 1998 on the PC and was released for the PS2 in 2001.

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then again, it's running on consoles too. obviously not looking that good, but you are able to tone down the settings on PC.

Hakkai007

It's not running on consoles.

ProjecktCD said that by the end of 2011 after the game has been released on PC for over half a year they will take a look at what they can do and if they like the results they will bring it out to consoles.

So they won't even start developing for consoles until 2012.

I think they may bring it out for next gen consoles a few years from now.

Some companies will do that.

Like how Half Life 1 was released in 1998 on the PC and was released for the PS2 in 2001.

ah, ok. then i believe it's very demanding indeed.

e: sounds like a must-buy. i like that someone is still developing true AAA PC games, and i want to support it.

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Looking at those images gives me the impression that a card like the GTX 580 or the HD 5970 would be needed to play it decently. It looks really demanding.

Hakkai007

Well While it looks great I doubt it will be that demanding.

Here is the demo footage video of that boss fight.

It's low res and off screen so it won't look good but it shows you the game in motion.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gc-10-the-witcher/703366

i knew those pics looked too good. in game is alot less impressive. still looks great though...

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

Looking at those images gives me the impression that a card like the GTX 580 or the HD 5970 would be needed to play it decently. It looks really demanding.

Hakkai007

Well While it looks great I doubt it will be that demanding.

Here is the demo footage video of that boss fight.

It's low res and off screen so it won't look good but it shows you the game in motion.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gc-10-the-witcher/703366

It looks extremely demanding. Not only in terms of its visuals, but in terms of the amount of processing that will be needed to run it, when there are hundreds of characters on screen like there was.

**** no. It looked dated.mo0ksi

You need to have your eyes checked if you think this looks outdated.

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/screenshots/original/2009/09/01_Stalker-COP-DirectX11-01.jpg(damn deeplinking :x)

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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

Wow. That looks absolutely amazing. I'd probably need another 5870 to run it.

BluRayHiDef

Well I saw on steam they had an 8800gt listed under the requirements.

I am guessing it is the minimum but there was no indication of that.

I think one 5870 would be enough to max it out.

Here are some more screenshots of that battle.

Looking at those images gives me the impression that a card like the GTX 580 or the HD 5970 would be needed to play it decently. It looks really demanding.

I think it will come down to how optimized the engine is. Being as its a new engine id assume they built it to take advantage of modern hardware.

ah, ok. then i believe it's very demanding indeed.

e: sounds like a must-buy. i like that someone is still developing true AAA PC games, and i want to support it.

groowagon

The amazing part is ProjecktCD made the game engine and is developing the game all with only a budget of 8 million.

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ah, ok. then i believe it's very demanding indeed.

e: sounds like a must-buy. i like that someone is still developing true AAA PC games, and i want to support it.

Hakkai007

The amazing part is ProjecktCD made the game engine and is developing the game all with only a budget of 8 million.

i knew those pics looked too good. in game is alot less impressive. still looks great though...

lazerface216

Dude the pics are more true to the quality....

The video was an off screen camera and is low resolution with bad compression.

If anything the game will look just like the pictures or better when in motion.

They made the engine? aren't they using the Path Engine?abuabed

I forgot the name of the engine but they did indeed make it.

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They made the engine? aren't they using the Path Engine?Hakkai007

I forgot the name of the engine but they did indeed make it.

EDIT: They didn't actually make the engine, if so then why does Just Cause 2 use it?

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i knew those pics looked too good. in game is alot less impressive. still looks great though...

Hakkai007

Dude the pics are more true to quality....

The video was an off screen camera and is low resolution with bad compression.

If anything the game will look just like the pictures or better when in motion.

i don't know, maybe it was all the screen tearing that made it not look as good. i would love to see this gameplay in person though. if the final product looks as good as those pics you posted, ****ing bravo to the devs.

makes me want to buy a gaming rig...

You need to have your eyes checked if you think this looks outdated.

abuabed

That second picture looks more like concept art than an actual in-game screenshot. I wish CoP looked that good.

And that third picture basically proved my point.

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Mind you I think Call of Pripyat is great, but the one thing that holds it back is the dated X-Ray engine. It sports nice little bits here and there, but for the most part it's looking a little ugly.

Path Engine

Just CTRL + F and type the "witcher" to see, it's actually listed there.

EDIT: They didn't actually make the engine, if so then why does Just Cause 2 use it?

abuabed

Not sure about that. But they seem to say they developed it themselves.

http://news.bigdownload.com/2010/11/05/the-witcher-2-dev-video-pops-the-lid-off-the-game-engine/

In one of its more esoteric videos,CD Projeckt discusses how the team conceptualized and developed the game engine for The Witcher 2.

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i knew those pics looked too good. in game is alot less impressive. still looks great though...

lazerface216

Dude the pics are more true to quality....

The video was an off screen camera and is low resolution with bad compression.

If anything the game will look just like the pictures or better when in motion.

i don't know, maybe it was all the screen tearing that made it not look as good. i would love to see this gameplay in person though. if the final product looks as good as those pics you posted, ****ing bravo to the devs.

makes me want to buy a gaming rig...

i don't know, maybe it was all the screen tearing that made it not look as good. i would love to see this gameplay in person though. if the final product looks as good as those pics you posted, ****ing bravo to the devs.

makes me want to buy a gaming rig...

lazerface216

The pics were taken directly from the game.

The video I showed was taken from a camera and was recorded at a low resolution. Then it was uploaded to a website which compressed the video further to make it look blurrier and more pixelated.

Like I said the game will look like what you see in the screenshots and possibly better in motion.

If there was ever screen tearing you can fix that by enabling Vsync.

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You need to have your eyes checked if you think this looks outdated.

mo0ksi

That second picture looks more like concept art than an actual in-game screenshot. I wish CoP looked that good.

And that third picture basically proved my point.

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Mind you I think Call of Pripyat is great, but the one thing that holds it back is the dated X-Ray engine. It sports nice little bits here and there, but for the most part it's looking a little ugly.

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They made the engine? aren't they using the Path Engine?abuabed

I forgot the name of the engine but they did indeed make it.

EDIT: They didn't actually make the engine, if so then why does Just Cause 2 use it?

PathEngine is just a path finding engine. it's not a game engine.

"6. What engine will be used in The Witcher 2?
The game does not use the Aurora Engine anymore. We developed a brand new engine dedicated to creating games with the design and features we love. The new engine is fully scalable and, well… kicks ass. We believe it will let us avoid all bottlenecks we came across during development of the first Witcher. Exact engine specifications, features and name will be revealed after the official announcement."

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[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

Dude the pics are more true to quality....

The video was an off screen camera and is low resolution with bad compression.

If anything the game will look just like the pictures or better when in motion.

abuabed

i don't know, maybe it was all the screen tearing that made it not look as good. i would love to see this gameplay in person though. if the final product looks as good as those pics you posted, ****ing bravo to the devs.

makes me want to buy a gaming rig...

lol i have no idea what you just posted...

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Path Engine

Just CTRL + F and type the "witcher" to see, it's actually listed there.

EDIT: They didn't actually make the engine, if so then why does Just Cause 2 use it?

Hakkai007

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

i don't know, maybe it was all the screen tearing that made it not look as good. i would love to see this gameplay in person though. if the final product looks as good as those pics you posted, ****ing bravo to the devs.

makes me want to buy a gaming rig...

Hakkai007

The pics were taken directly from the game.

The video I showed was taken from a camera and was recorded at a low resolution. Then it was uploaded to a website which compressed the video further to make it look blurrier and more pixelated.

Like I said the game will look like what you see in the screenshots and possibly better in motion.

If there was ever screen tearing you can fix that by enabling Vsync.

i know this is off topic but how much would it cost for a rig that could play this game at it's highest settings?

PathEngine is just a path finding engine. it's not a game engine.groowagon

Thanks for the elaboration :)

i know this is off topic but how much would it cost for a rig that could play this game at it's highest settings?

lazerface216

Well I am unsure because the game has not been released.

It could how low requirements or it could be very demanding.

Also prices with hardware change over time.

Then you have to take into account whether you will be building your own PC or buying one that is already put together which will cost a lot more.

You also have to know the resolution of your screen. The higher the resolution the more demanding it will be.

Maybe you don't like the gloomy dark feeling of the game and prefer a brighter look like Crysis games. For me at least, Stalker is the second best looking game after Crysis. Just try it with the complete mod (only available for SoC and CS so far) and tell me how you feel.abuabed

I'm really just judging each game visually when they're out of the box. I've seen the complete edition for both and they look outstanding, but I'm not putting those into account.

lol i have no idea what you just posted...

lazerface216

Well I included Metro 2033 in my own list, so that's not the case. I mean, as much as I hated Clear Sky, on its highest settings it looked phenomenal. But that was at the time when the engine was put through its paces.

I'm really just judging each game visually when they're out of the box. I've seen the complete edition for both and they look outstanding, but I'm not putting those into account.

mo0ksi

Mind you, I have just played both games(SoC & CoP) recently and I'm astonished by their graphics. I even submitted 3 missions for STALKER 2 competition :o

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Maybe you don't like the gloomy dark feeling of the game and prefer a brighter look like Crysis games. For me at least, Stalker is the second best looking game after Crysis. Just try it with the complete mod (only available for SoC and CS so far) and tell me how you feel.mo0ksi

I'm really just judging each game visually when they're out of the box. I've seen the complete edition for both and they look outstanding, but I'm not putting those into account.

i know this is off topic but how much would it cost for a rig that could play this game at it's highest settings?

lazerface216

We don't know the requirements yet. But I would be surprised if you couldn't max it out with a modern mid range GPU + modern mid range CPU.

Something like an i5 and a 6870. Those two parts together, come next year will probably run you around $350-$375. The rest varies son what you want, case, mobo, hard drive, memory, etc. Could be another $100 or another $200+ depending on the features you want. So my guess (emphasis on guess, as we don't know the requirements) would be $500-$600 rig to max it out at 1980p with AA and AF.

Of course you probably won't need to max it out to make it look incredible. Medium high settings will be enough for most people and will run on even lower end, cheaper hardware.

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[QUOTE="abuabed"]

Maybe you don't like the gloomy dark feeling of the game and prefer a brighter look like Crysis games. For me at least, Stalker is the second best looking game after Crysis. Just try it with the complete mod (only available for SoC and CS so far) and tell me how you feel.ManicAce

I'm really just judging each game visually when they're out of the box. I've seen the complete edition for both and they look outstanding, but I'm not putting those into account.

I agree. the lighting engine in that game is AMAZING, as are some of the texture effects. But some of the models are low poly meshes (trees for example) and the animations aren't that great. It's still an awesome looking game, and at full settings looks a heck of a lot better than most console offerings.

I think The Witcher will be more cpu intensive.. not sure though depends how they optimize it :)SPBoss

Well the bare minimum requirements for The WItcher 2 is.

CPU: dual core 2.2ghz
RAM: 1 gig for windows XP and 2 gigs for Vista/7
GPU: 8800gt 512mbvRAM or ATI equivalent

[QUOTE="SPBoss"]I think The Witcher will be more cpu intensive.. not sure though depends how they optimize it :)Hakkai007

Well the bare minimum requirements for The WItcher 2 is.

CPU: dual core 2.2ghz
RAM: 1 gig for windows XP and 2 gigs for Vista/7
GPU: 8800gt 512mbvRAM or ATI equivalent

Will a GTX 460 be good enough for it?