Tom Mcshea Pushing his Agenda

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#101  Edited By Seabas989
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"Comments are disabled for this video."

Ratings too...

LMFAO.

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#102 Krelian-co
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@Seabas989 said:

"Comments are disabled for this video."

Ratings too...

LMFAO.

like every femiscum video around.

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#103 deactivated-586249e1b64ba
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@Krelian-co said:

their whole point is stupid, it goes beyond equal rights, they want to kill sexuality and that is just stupid, humans are by nature sexual creatures, we think in sex, and not only men, woman too all day, as i see feminazis are garbage that feel rejected and want everyone to be that way- not to mention that both genders are not equal, so why should they be threated equal, example if i had an office i would hire the most competent people, man or woman, but if i was in charge of a more physical job i would hire all males, and then be called sexist because males are stronger and that's a fact.

Cool, cool. Absolutely great post. I agree. Feminazis are shit. Physical industries shouldn't have to accommodate them at all.

I believe you missed the part about why there aren't many women trying to enter this not-so-physical industry in the first place though. Y'know, the toxic community that is without a doubt much worse to women than men? Y'know, the subject of the video?

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#104  Edited By cainetao11
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@Gue1 said:

Hear what he says at 1:05

Like if people didn't harass him for the reviews of Zelda Skyward Sword and The Last of Us.

Did you link something?

Also reading this thread, I am loving how butthurt people still are over TLOU review. Yeah, McShea screwed up by not liking a game as much as some of the people here. My god, that's fuckin stupid, and people still hate him because of it as if their opinion is THE opinion.

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#105 Notorious1234NA
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nothing to see here go watch some porn people......

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#106 finalfantasy94
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@JangoWuzHere said:

@mikhail said:

@finalfantasy94 said:

Yea its funny since even though anime does some pervy things with some female characters I still think they have the higher female cast numbers then other media.

The same could be said about porn.

Basically this

Having lots of female characters doesn't mean that the gender is being represented well.

I dont get how you compare to porn. Some animes do represent females well and again my point was anime does have a higher rate of female characters and in some of those shows they dont soly exist to screw. Porn soly exist to see people have sex and thats it. There no effort in character development or anything. Also your not always going to have some strong female lead. Sometimes you have the female who uses her sexuality to get what she wants or the kinda ditzy female and others. Thats cause those type of people do exist and it would be boring if every female was this super serious no play around character.

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#107 Krelian-co
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@Technoweirdo said:
@Krelian-co said:

their whole point is stupid, it goes beyond equal rights, they want to kill sexuality and that is just stupid, humans are by nature sexual creatures, we think in sex, and not only men, woman too all day, as i see feminazis are garbage that feel rejected and want everyone to be that way- not to mention that both genders are not equal, so why should they be threated equal, example if i had an office i would hire the most competent people, man or woman, but if i was in charge of a more physical job i would hire all males, and then be called sexist because males are stronger and that's a fact.

Cool, cool. Absolutely great post. I agree. Feminazis are shit. Physical industries shouldn't have to accommodate them at all.

I believe you missed the part about why there aren't many women trying to enter this not-so-physical industry in the first place though. Y'know, the toxic community that is without a doubt much worse to women than men? Y'know, the subject of the video?

oh i am sorry did i give the impresion that i watched the video? because i didn't, i do not give a flying fuk about what they have to say, i just gave my general opinion on the topic, not the video itself, i have watched a few of thuderfoot's and other youtubers videos.

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#108  Edited By mikhail
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@finalfantasy94 said:

@JangoWuzHere said:

@mikhail said:

@finalfantasy94 said:

Yea its funny since even though anime does some pervy things with some female characters I still think they have the higher female cast numbers then other media.

The same could be said about porn.

Basically this

Having lots of female characters doesn't mean that the gender is being represented well.

I dont get how you compare to porn. Some animes do represent females well and again my point was anime does have a higher rate of female characters and in some of those shows they dont soly exist to screw. Porn soly exist to see people have sex and thats it. There no effort in character development or anything. Also your not always going to have some strong female lead. Sometimes you have the female who uses her sexuality to get what she wants or the kinda ditzy female and others. Thats cause those type of people do exist and it would be boring if every female was this super serious no play around character.

Some porn represents females well, too. There are porn production companies that are owned by women.

Also, I don't know about you, but I watch porn for the stories. You never saw Shaving Ryan's Privates or King Dong? Get some culture.

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#109  Edited By Jacanuk
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@Gue1 said:

Hear what he says at 1:05

Like if people didn't harass him for the reviews of Zelda Skyward Sword and The Last of Us.

Wish i knew what you were referring to but it seems someone removed the video either you or a mod.

But now i see its another dumb and dumber video from the absolute non-gaming person called Sarkastica something. So do you really need our help to know that the video is 100% wrong and just made to help her justify the hatred for being born as a women and not a man.

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#110 zassimick  Moderator
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I still debate whether I should support equality by voicing my opinion and chanting yay or nay to every video or news article on the subject, or by ignoring all of this and continuing being myself, accepting anyone and everyone for who they are whether they enjoy games or not.

I think I'm fairly quiet so I'll continue being me and accepting anyone. Sure, there needs to be a voice... but I'd rather act than add another screaming, obnoxious anonymous internet user to whatever seems to be going on with all of this.

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@Krelian-co said:

oh i am sorry did i give the impresion that i watched the video? because i didn't, i do not give a flying fuk about what they have to say, i just gave my general opinion on the topic, not the video itself, i have watched a few of thuderfoot's and other youtubers videos.

If you're gonna post in a thread about a video, the bare minimum is to watch the video before you comment and certainly before you go off the rails about feminazis who have nothing to do with this.

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TC, you maybe should link to what shit video you talk about

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@bunchanumbers said:

@clyde46 said:

You can **** off if you think I'm giving that bitch views.

Yeah.... though where is the video @Gue1

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#114 trugs26
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I'm assuming some of you have at least seen the video. Can someone please spare the time to post the URL at least?

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#115 deactivated-5ebea105efb64
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Hahahah so I watched it. This video needs Adam, Bruce and James from IG to shit on them. lol

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#116 Minishdriveby
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@Articuno76 said:

@jg4xchamp said:

Gaming media has been aggressively shitty, but conversely the gaming community (again not generalizing, specifically the bad apples, the barrel is perfectly fine) has been just as aggressive and repulsive in their counter arguments. In many ways Anita has been vindicated one too many times by people who don't know how to respect a notion that a chick actually has a right to be treated decently.

I get the sentiment you are going for from the context of your post, but I think the word you were looking for was "vilified".

I'm pretty sure he meant vindicated... The death threats and rape threats only give her points credence.

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By popular demand, 25 Invisible Benefits of Gaming While Male.

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#118 CrashNBurn281
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Regardless of what the guy is talking about in the video, the butthurt over TLOU score seems to continue to come up. lol

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#119  Edited By Gue1
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and here I present you the guy from the video, Full McIntosh, AKA Anita's ventriloquist.

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#120  Edited By Dasein808
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@Minishdriveby said:

I'm pretty sure he meant vindicated... The death threats and rape threats only give her points credence.

Except that the most recent death threats against her were proven, by GG, to originate from a reporter from Brazil with no GG affiliation and yet she has continued to decline to press charges against him.

AFAIK, all of her previous threats remain "unsolved" as I don't recall mention of arrests or any actual suspects.

She has no leg to stand on since she accused a group (i.e. gamers/GG) of being responsible, was subsequently proven wrong, and then chose not to pursue charges / apologize, in spite of her previous claims of being in fear for her life, and being prevented from speaking / censored.

You even linked the article documenting this fact.

FFS.

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#121  Edited By Minishdriveby
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@Dasein808 said:

@Minishdriveby said:

I'm pretty sure he meant vindicated... The death threats and rape threats only give her points credence.

Except that the most recent death threats against her were proven, by GG, to originate from a reporter from Brazil with no GG affiliation and yet she has continued to decline to press charges against him.

She has no leg to stand on since she accused a group (i.e. gamers/GG) of being responsible, was proven wrong, and subsequently chose not to pursue charges in spite of her previous claims of being terrified and being prevented from speaking.

You even linked the article documenting this fact.

FFS.

Yes, that one death threat invalidates the thousands of others.

EDIT: What does any of this have to do with gamergate by the way?

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#122  Edited By Minishdriveby
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@Zassimick said:

I still debate whether I should support equality by voicing my opinion and chanting yay or nay to every video or news article on the subject, or by ignoring all of this and continuing being myself, accepting anyone and everyone for who they are whether they enjoy games or not.

I think I'm fairly quiet so I'll continue being me and accepting anyone. Sure, there needs to be a voice... but I'd rather act than add another screaming, obnoxious anonymous internet user to whatever seems to be going on with all of this.

Not showing support when you agree with the message causes the community to be filled only with comments like the ones from Clyde, leaving the impression that this is the community’s consensus on the issue because no one is commenting support for these efforts, only contempt.

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#123 Midnightshade29
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@uninspiredcup: this was my thought exactly hypocrisy. They only hire the prettiest women and put them in skimpy clothes and then go to support feminism? Ha they do that to get hits... just like the tons of models who all of sudden are into gaming and go on YouTube getting millions of views just for being women... but I don't hear any of these feminist or white knights calling these out on that.

As far as sexism, I don't see it in games, I see it on chat rooms and especially places like twitch streams. Go into any live on playstation stream where some woman is there and u will see 100s of douche bag teens say stuff like , "twerk, Ima bang u, take it off, u be fine give me ya number, booty shorts, just fucnk already, etc... " and stuff I won't even write. Why no one is calling out those morons? I can't let my kids watch streams on that app because I'm of it. They even make fun of little kids on there and say stuff about incest and all manner of 2nd class bull shit. But what is even more messed up is there are women on there who encourage it...for again.. hits, and subs. I guess twitch gives money for subs... as they will tease these fools and the ruckus will continue. Half the time the girl is drunk and being a flat out narcissist.. "hey look at me" ughh

Bottom line is teens talk smack, they always will, and the Internet just makes it worse. Hopefully many will wise up and treat people with respect later on. That's streams, message boards and online chat... inside video games... I don't see this this crap at all.

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#124  Edited By Dasein808
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@Minishdriveby said:

Yes, that one death threat invalidates the thousands of others.

EDIT: What does any of this have to do with gamergate by the way?

Yes, that one.

The one with supporting evidence.

The most recent threat, that she claimed originated from gamers/GG, but was subsequently proven to be false, demonstrates her lack of credibility.

It also explains the need to disseminate the "Listen and Believe," mantra.

The fact that she has declined to press charges further damages the little credibility she had to begin with, given her penchant for: "fair use" acquisition of source material, and decontextualized, cherry picked criticism designed to prove an already arrived upon conclusion.

It has to do with GG because she has declined to actually prosecute her supposed "harasser," even when presented with his head on a silver platter; in spite of the "terror" that he supposedly inspired or her unwillingness to apologize for the smearing damage her accusations inflicted to a large group of diverse individuals that had nothing to do with her harassment.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

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#125  Edited By m_machine024
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Not a fan of that women but what they are saying is true. Well most of it at least. If those things mentioned happened to you, it wouldn't be because of your gender. GENDER. G.E.N.D.E.R. It'd be because of something else but not your gender. But those could happen to a women simply because of her gender. That's not the way it should be but that's how it is. That's not hard to grasp really.

Guess that got over TC's head.

And not sure why the mention of McShea but ok.

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#126 LordQuorthon
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HOW DARE THOSE BASTARDS TRY TO CONVINCE ME TO ACT LIKE A NORMAL HUMAN BEING!

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#127  Edited By Minishdriveby
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@Dasein808 said:
@Minishdriveby said:

Yes, that one death threat invalidates the thousands of others.

EDIT: What does any of this have to do with gamergate by the way?

Yes, that one, the one with supporting evidence.

The most recent threat, that she claimed originated from gamers/GG, but was subsequently proven to be false, demonstrates her lack of credibility.

It also explains the need to disseminate the "Listen and Believe," mantra.

The fact that she has declined to press charges further damages the little credibility she had to begin with, given her penchant for: "fair use" acquisition of source material, and decontextualized, cherry picked criticism designed to prove an already arrived upon conclusion.

It has to do with GG because she has declined to actually prosecute her supposed "harrasser" even when presented with his head on a silver platter; in spite of the "terror" that he supposedly inspired and the smearing damage her accusations inflicted to a large group of diverse individuals that had nothing to do with her harrassment.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

I stole 100 pieces of candy, but I bought one, so I couldn't possibly have stolen the other 100.

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#128  Edited By Dasein808
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@Minishdriveby said:

I stole 100 pieces of candy, but I bought one, so I couldn't possibly have stolen the other 100.

You appear to have attended the false analogy/logical fallacy school of Mikhail and that other guy...

Get back to me when you want to deal in actual logic and directly address anything I said.

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#130  Edited By Minishdriveby
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@Dasein808 said:
@Minishdriveby said:

I stole 100 pieces of candy, but I bought one, so I couldn't possibly have stolen the other 100.

You appear to have attended the false analogy school of Mikhail and that other guy...

Get back to me when you want to deal in actual logic and directly address anything I said.

She's received multiple death threats since the conception of her kickstarter; you're claiming that those are invalid because there was a Brazilian journalist who sent her a death threat to create an article follow up.

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#131  Edited By Dasein808
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@Minishdriveby said:

She's received multiple death threats since the conception of her kickstarter; you're claiming that those are invalid because there was a Brazilian journalist who sent her a death threat to create an article follow up.

No.

I'm claiming that she has no idea where those death threats may have originated, and that there are also many other public figures who regularly deal, professionally, with a much higher volume of death threats.

I'm claiming that she accused gamers/gg as being responsible for her most recent death threat in Utah with no corroborating evidence

GG not only proved that this was not the case, but they also identified the perpetrator.

She has subsequently opted to neither thank/apologize to GG/gamers, nor file charges against her harasser; in spite of the apparent grief he inspired, as well as a need to mention her patreon account in light of her most recent bout with patriarchal oppression.

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#132  Edited By Minishdriveby
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@Dasein808 said:

@Minishdriveby said:

She's received multiple death threats since the conception of her kickstarter; you're claiming that those are invalid because there was a Brazilian journalist who sent her a death threat to create an article follow up.

No.

I'm claiming that she has no idea where those death threats may have originated, and there are also many other public figures that regularly deal, professionally, with a higher volume of death threats.

I'm claiming that she accused gamers/gg as being responsible for her most recent death threat in Utah.

GG proved that not only was this not the case, but they also identified the perpetrator.

She has subsequently opted to neither thank GG or file charges against her harasser in spite of the apparent grief he inspired as well as a need to mention one's patreon account in light of the most recent bout of patriarchal oppression.

Okay. Cool. Well as long we agree she's received 100's of death/rape threats inspired by her kickstarter for a videogame video series.

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#133  Edited By Dasein808
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@Minishdriveby said:

Okay. Cool. Well as long we agree she's received 100's of death/rape threats since her kickstarter for a videogame video series.

Lol.

I wonder if the would-be revolutionaries/public figures of the past wrote letters to the public whinining about their harassment by the systems that they were trying to usurp.

P.S. I also apologize for accusing you of linking the Kotaku article discussing Anita's Brazilian reporter harasser.I confused you with Super600. My bad.

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#134 finalfantasy94
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@Technoweirdo said:

By popular demand, 25 Invisible Benefits of Gaming While Male.

I find it funny that she disables her comment section. Yea people say horrible things but thats the internet. It shows she has no backbone and doesint want to debate her opinions on the situation. Its like doing a discussion table and saying "ok im going to say my piece and noone in this room can dispute it other wise. So stay silent"

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@darkspineslayer said:

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lmao pretty good.

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#136  Edited By TrappedInABox91
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@cainetao11: But Dudebro! Casual morals can't breath the glorified air that TLOU does. Its the one game on Earth that everything can agree is the pinnacle of gaming and film lol

How about its fair to get 8/10 imho.

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@Technoweirdo said:
@Krelian-co said:

oh i am sorry did i give the impresion that i watched the video? because i didn't, i do not give a flying fuk about what they have to say, i just gave my general opinion on the topic, not the video itself, i have watched a few of thuderfoot's and other youtubers videos.

If you're gonna post in a thread about a video, the bare minimum is to watch the video before you comment and certainly before you go off the rails about feminazis who have nothing to do with this.

it's an anita video and i already watched thunderfoot reply video, that's enough info and it is a free forum after all.

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#138 Krelian-co
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@Technoweirdo said:

By popular demand, 25 Invisible Benefits of Gaming While Male.

just out of curiosity, would you mind telling us where is this popular demand that wanted you to post another garbagestastic anita video?

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#139  Edited By zassimick  Moderator
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@Minishdriveby said:

@Zassimick said:

I still debate whether I should support equality by voicing my opinion and chanting yay or nay to every video or news article on the subject, or by ignoring all of this and continuing being myself, accepting anyone and everyone for who they are whether they enjoy games or not.

I think I'm fairly quiet so I'll continue being me and accepting anyone. Sure, there needs to be a voice... but I'd rather act than add another screaming, obnoxious anonymous internet user to whatever seems to be going on with all of this.

Not showing support when you agree with the message causes the community to be filled only with comments like the ones from Clyde, leaving the impression that this is the community’s consensus on the issue because no one is commenting support for these efforts, only contempt.

Maybe I support the cause, but not the efforts that are currently being done, so I'd really have nothing to say aside from... well, "good message, poor way to get it out."

My beliefs are with the mantra actions speak louder than words. Despite my voice not balancing a community's consensus on an issue, I'd still say that my actions do their part for a cause and are, in fact, a form of showing support.

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#140 HAZE-Unit
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Apply your own rule.

Do NOT feed the trolls.

This bitch is a huge troll lol.

The amount of people lying with a straight face in that vid is shocking, I don't know how they actually didn't burst out laughing.

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#141 Krelian-co
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@HAZE-Unit said:

Apply your own rule.

Do NOT feed the trolls.

This bitch is a huge troll lol.

The amount of people lying with a straight face in that vid is shocking, I don't know how they actually didn't burst out laughing.

believe it or not, many people believes that bullshit, is sad.

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#142 X_CAPCOM_X
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@Ballroompirate said:

@clyde46 said:

You can **** off if you think I'm giving that bitch views.

This 10000x

+1

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#143 ActicEdge
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I didn't expect SW to actually get the point of that video.

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#144  Edited By X_CAPCOM_X
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@Gue1 said:

and here I present you the guy from the video, Full McIntosh, AKA Anita's ventriloquist.

Is this guy fucking serious?

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#145 Shadow4020
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I'm so tired of this "check your privilege" crap. Instead of whining on the internet maybe they should discuss what they believe are the solutions to these problems?

Also, if McIntosh is so sure that this video will be taken more seriously because he's a man, maybe he should enable comments and ratings and test that theory.

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#146 Krelian-co
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@Shadow4020 said:

I'm so tired of this "check your privilege" crap. Instead of whining on the internet maybe they should discuss what they believe are the solutions to these problems?

Also, if McIntosh is so sure that this video will be taken more seriously because he's a man, maybe he should enable comments and ratings and test that theory.

the guy also keeps saying videogames are what makes people violent. It's like he has a vendetta to destroy gaming.

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#147 DerekLoffin
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@Gue1 said:

and here I present you the guy from the video, Full McIntosh, AKA Anita's ventriloquist.

Jonathan is an idiot, but his point there is technically true (although a complete fantasy and thus rather pointless). To be censorship, there has to be a forced compliance. If the stores are voluntarily not selling something, that is not censorship. Now, if they did something like had all the big companies come together and mandate that no store could sell it, then it would be force, and thus would be censorship. But, again, this situation is a complete fantasy. You don't get absolute compliance situations without force involved. You can already see this. Why can't you find porno videos in Walmart, because pornography has censoring on it and thus special regs, and walmart choose not to go that way, but the choice wasn't a free choice, it was a choice steered by those regulations.

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#148 RyviusARC
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@Minishdriveby said:

@Dasein808 said:

@Minishdriveby said:

She's received multiple death threats since the conception of her kickstarter; you're claiming that those are invalid because there was a Brazilian journalist who sent her a death threat to create an article follow up.

No.

I'm claiming that she has no idea where those death threats may have originated, and there are also many other public figures that regularly deal, professionally, with a higher volume of death threats.

I'm claiming that she accused gamers/gg as being responsible for her most recent death threat in Utah.

GG proved that not only was this not the case, but they also identified the perpetrator.

She has subsequently opted to neither thank GG or file charges against her harasser in spite of the apparent grief he inspired as well as a need to mention one's patreon account in light of the most recent bout of patriarchal oppression.

Okay. Cool. Well as long we agree she's received 100's of death/rape threats inspired by her kickstarter for a videogame video series.

Most people in the public sphere get death threats whether they are male or female.

The difference is that most of them don't b*tch and moan and instead do the smart thing and keep quiet while alerting the proper authorities.

You could of switched Anita out with a random male and he would probably receive just as many death threats.

The problem is that Anita ignores real criticism of her claims and only reacts when some douche bag makes an insulting comment to her.

She never holds any proper discussions with opposing views nor does she care about listening to others.

She doesn't even care about video games, she is in it for the money.

She even says how she doesn't like video games.

When on the Colbert show she couldn't even name any game other than GTA 5 that she thought were objectifying women.......and this is something she was supposedly researching for over two years with the 150k funded by kickstarter.

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#150 DefconRave
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Solution: Ban all gamers below the age of 18 from mp games. Problem solved.