This is why GTA V isn’t on PC yet

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#151  Edited By ProjectPat187
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@R4gn4r0k said:

@ProjectPat187 said:

Why do you say Max Payne 3 flopped? It has not sold anything close to GTA 5 but I wouldn't call it a flop.

Max Payne 3 sold really bad on all platforms, and there will most likely never be a sequel.

Search for sales numbers if you don't believe me.

I already looked up sales numbers, thats how I know it wasnt a flop, like I said, it didnt sell anything like GTA 5 but 4 million copies sold is not a flop, maybe by console standards.

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#152  Edited By highking_kallor
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@CrownKingArthur:

Wow another poster with a very productive life. You go guy.

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#153 lundy86_4
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@CrownKingArthur:

Wow another poster with a very productive life. You go guy.

You doubled your post count. Congratulations.

Keep crawling toward "relevant."

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#154  Edited By The_Last_Ride
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PC gamers need to stop pirating games and buying them instead. PC is a grea enviroment, but nobody buys games on that platform. That's why consoles are better for games when it comes to games and gamong overall

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#155  Edited By highking_kallor
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@lundy86_4:

Don't want that. I might look like a no life loser.

Oh and congrats on working that out. Was not expecting that from you.

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#156 lundy86_4
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@highking_kallor said:

@lundy86_4:

Don't want that. I might look like a no life loser.

Oh and congrats on working that out. Was not expecting that from you.

Come back when you have more than a few measly posts. Hard to take one seriously, lol.

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#157 IMAHAPYHIPPO
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Last night the bean counters at Take Two Interactive released their financials for the last year and there were some surprising announcements in between all the tedious non-GAAP and loan note talking.

First up let’s take a look at the juicy sales numbers.

Borderlands 2 has now become 2K’s biggest selling title with the latest retail push helping the title sail past the 8.5 million mark. 2K, owned by Take Two, also pulled in some great sales of their signature NBA 2K series with the latest version, NBA2K14, selling over 5 million units which has pushed the franchise over the 35 million mark to date.

But the real money spinner was obviously Grand Theft Auto V which has now officially sold over 32 million copies already and is still widely expected to earn a lot more money with upcoming DLC, Xbox One and PS4 versions as well as the much-anticipated PC version.

The rest of the income earned is spread across XCOM, Bioshock, WWE, Civ 5 and GTA: San Andreas to name a few.

However those aren’t the most surprising numbers from the announcement. If you scroll all the way down Take Two have also given the breakdown of sales according to mobile, console or PC and the results are mind-blowing.

Consoles vs The Master Race

In the 2012 financial year the breakdown was as follows

  • Console – 80%
  • PC – 18%
  • Mobile – 2%

A clear lead for the console market which is a bit of a shock since Max Payne 3 was released during that time on all platforms.

But fast forward to today and the breakdown for 2013 sales is vastly different

  • Console – 97%
  • PC – 3%
  • Mobile – 0%

To put it bluntly Take Two is now simply a console house with that 3% barely even worth the effort of porting games over. Games like NBA2K, Borderlands 2 and XCOM: Enemy Within are debatable better on the console and with consoles having total domination inside the company you can understand why top titles like Red Dead Redemption and Grand Theft Auto V simply aren’t on the immediate horizon for PC gamers.

Do we have to mention the obvious factor of piracy being a major issue on the PC and that is possibly why Take-2 are investing more into consoles than the platform of the master race?

Sales tactics and Digital vs Retail

Take Two’s new sales plan also includes bundles with their next two bundles being Borderlands 2 & Dishonoured hitting retailers on the 11th of February along with a second, decidedly odd bundle of Skyrim & Bioshock Infinite which would make a perfect Valentine’s present for that special person in your life.

And for all of those, like me, who was worried that digital sales would ruin the typical retail experience it is nice to see that Take Two’s digital sales only accounted for 3% of all their sales. Again with GTA V skewing that results quite badly. Last year digital accounted for 22% of sales as a comparison.

The last bit of interesting info is that North America counts for 45% of all Take Two sales with the rest of the world combined making up the other 55% with no region being big enough to get a special mention.

http://www.lazygamer.net/xbox-360/this-is-why-gta-v-isnt-on-pc-yet/

Forgive me, but I'm having a difficult time understanding this math. A little off topic, but Borderlands is 2K's biggest selling title at 8.5 million units, which is somehow a greater number than the 35 million units Grand Theft Auto V moved -- also a 2K title? 8.5>35...?

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#158  Edited By highking_kallor
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@lundy86_4:


Thanks for the laugh. You think posts in a forum count. That say's it all.

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#159 lundy86_4
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@highking_kallor said:

@lundy86_4:

Thanks for the laugh. You think posts in a forum count. That say's it all.

Bro, you take me way too seriously. Most people on this board know that i'm here for a laugh. Lighten up.

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#160 highking_kallor
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@lundy86_4:


You think im serious? Have you seen some of the outrageous crap ive posted? Most people bite too. Then you have the grammer Nazis. May they live their boring life forever.

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#161 lundy86_4
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@highking_kallor said:

@lundy86_4:

You think im serious? Have you seen some of the outrageous crap ive posted? Most people bite too. Then you have the grammer Nazis. May they live their boring life forever.

To be honest, I haven't. You're way too new lol. Get more posts, yo.

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#162 highking_kallor
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@lundy86_4:

Im trying.

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@highking_kallor said:

@lundy86_4:

You think im serious? Have you seen some of the outrageous crap ive posted? Most people bite too. Then you have the grammer Nazis. May they live their boring life forever.

Grammar* You're welcome.

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#164 megaspiderweb09
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The funny thing is both platforms actually needs each other to sustain the whole industry at the moment

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#165 dream431ca
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Can't blame them. There is much more on PC to choose from. Hard market to sell in.

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#166  Edited By highking_kallor
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@millerlight89 said:

@highking_kallor said:

@lundy86_4:

You think im serious? Have you seen some of the outrageous crap ive posted? Most people bite too. Then you have the grammer Nazis. May they live their boring life forever.

Grammar* You're welcome.

Must be hard to sit there and take the bad spelling/grammar. Man you must waste some time online correcting people that just don't care. Whatever its your life. Does it make your skin crawl or something? That must be horrible to live with. Glad I can let stuff go and not have it build up and overwhelm my existence like some on here.

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It's 97% because of GTAV. Next year TakeTwo will once again post loss, because everything else they make sells like crap compared to development costs.

And it's really not surprising. 2K has only one big selling PC property and that's Civilization, which recieved last full game almost four years ago. You ain't gonna make a lot of money if you don't have the games to publish.

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#168  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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@ProjectPat187 said:

@R4gn4r0k said:

@ProjectPat187 said:

Why do you say Max Payne 3 flopped? It has not sold anything close to GTA 5 but I wouldn't call it a flop.

Max Payne 3 sold really bad on all platforms, and there will most likely never be a sequel.

Search for sales numbers if you don't believe me.

I already looked up sales numbers, thats how I know it wasnt a flop, like I said, it didnt sell anything like GTA 5 but 4 million copies sold is not a flop, maybe by console standards, also thanks for looking into the future and letting me know there will never be a sequel.

Thank you for your sarcasm.

When the the publisher itself said the game sold way below expectations and they put the game on sale for like 5 dollars a year after release you know something is wrong.

And sure, I don't know the future, but there is a very slim chance there will ever be a sequel. And if you want to close your eyes for the truth, than please go ahead.

Like I said, there will MOST LIKELY NEVER BE A SEQUEL which is not the same as saying 'there will never be a sequel'

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#169 KillzoneSnake
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They would make more money making it for PS4. No need for high end PC to runs it at 60fps 1080p, PS4 will do that easy.

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#170 ProjectPat187
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@R4gn4r0k said:

@ProjectPat187 said:

@R4gn4r0k said:

@ProjectPat187 said:

Why do you say Max Payne 3 flopped? It has not sold anything close to GTA 5 but I wouldn't call it a flop.

Max Payne 3 sold really bad on all platforms, and there will most likely never be a sequel.

Search for sales numbers if you don't believe me.

I already looked up sales numbers, thats how I know it wasnt a flop, like I said, it didnt sell anything like GTA 5 but 4 million copies sold is not a flop, maybe by console standards, also thanks for looking into the future and letting me know there will never be a sequel.

When the the publisher itself said the game sold way below expectations and they put the game on sale for like 5 dollars a year after release you know something is wrong.

And selling lower than expectation does not mean a game is a flop, and do you have proof the game was put up for $5 a year after release?

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#171 R4gn4r0k
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@ProjectPat187 said:

@R4gn4r0k said:

@ProjectPat187 said:

@R4gn4r0k said:

@ProjectPat187 said:

Why do you say Max Payne 3 flopped? It has not sold anything close to GTA 5 but I wouldn't call it a flop.

Max Payne 3 sold really bad on all platforms, and there will most likely never be a sequel.

Search for sales numbers if you don't believe me.

I already looked up sales numbers, thats how I know it wasnt a flop, like I said, it didnt sell anything like GTA 5 but 4 million copies sold is not a flop, maybe by console standards, also thanks for looking into the future and letting me know there will never be a sequel.

When the the publisher itself said the game sold way below expectations and they put the game on sale for like 5 dollars a year after release you know something is wrong.

And selling lower than expectation does not mean a game is a flop, and do you have proof the game was put up for $5 a year after release?

Yes, that is the exact definition: selling lower than expectations = sales flop.

If you want to argue definitions than go ahead, I'm not interested though.

It was on sale on Steam and GMG last year for 5 dollars. It was on the last PSN sale for less than older games like RDR and GTA IV (I think it was around 7.5 dollars)

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#172 ProjectPat187
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@R4gn4r0k said:

@ProjectPat187 said:

@R4gn4r0k said:

@ProjectPat187 said:

@R4gn4r0k said:

@ProjectPat187 said:

Why do you say Max Payne 3 flopped? It has not sold anything close to GTA 5 but I wouldn't call it a flop.

Max Payne 3 sold really bad on all platforms, and there will most likely never be a sequel.

Search for sales numbers if you don't believe me.

I already looked up sales numbers, thats how I know it wasnt a flop, like I said, it didnt sell anything like GTA 5 but 4 million copies sold is not a flop, maybe by console standards, also thanks for looking into the future and letting me know there will never be a sequel.

When the the publisher itself said the game sold way below expectations and they put the game on sale for like 5 dollars a year after release you know something is wrong.

And selling lower than expectation does not mean a game is a flop, and do you have proof the game was put up for $5 a year after release?

Yes, that is the exact definition: selling lower than expectations = sales flop.

Thats exactly not the definition, lower than expectations means lower than expectations, flop is YOU'RE definition and YOUR'RE definition ONLY.

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#173  Edited By AzatiS
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@Shielder7 said:

@lostrib said:

old news

It's less than a month old and LOL so much for the Master Race and their Master sales.

Show me a console FREE 2 play game that generates up to 500-600M even near billion $$ profits per year and then come tell us about Master Race or Master sales again. lol consolites are out of their mind latetly.

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#175 KillzoneSnake
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@The_Last_Ride

Whos pirating games? Im not pirating games. Thats not how it works when you have a job and a life you buy your games. ( consolites get mommy and daddy to do it 9 times outta 10 )

@KillzoneSnake:

Why would it sell better on ps4? You think PC gamers want GTA just so they can play in 1080 at 60fps, THAT'S IT?

No try 1440/1600p at 60-120fps with gsync and more mods/tweaks/settings then you'd know what to do with.

Console games sell much more. Pirate and mod GTA all you want. And sorry i cant notice higher than 1080p sitting over 5 feet away from a 40 inch tv. I also would have one hell of a hard time to notice anything higher than 60fps. PC gaming is pointless nowadays.

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#177 KillzoneSnake
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@KillzoneSnake: Then your blind and ignorant. Ill leave it at that.

I know it must be painful to not play GTAV or MGSV. So sad.

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@KillzoneSnake said:
@Motokid6 said:

@The_Last_Ride

Whos pirating games? Im not pirating games. Thats not how it works when you have a job and a life you buy your games. ( consolites get mommy and daddy to do it 9 times outta 10 )

@KillzoneSnake:

Why would it sell better on ps4? You think PC gamers want GTA just so they can play in 1080 at 60fps, THAT'S IT?

No try 1440/1600p at 60-120fps with gsync and more mods/tweaks/settings then you'd know what to do with.

Console games sell much more. Pirate and mod GTA all you want. And sorry i cant notice higher than 1080p sitting over 5 feet away from a 40 inch tv. I also would have one hell of a hard time to notice anything higher than 60fps. PC gaming is pointless nowadays.

Buying a PS4 is pointless

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#182 KillzoneSnake
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@Motokid6 said:

@KillzoneSnake: So i can just go out and by those games for my 360 then? Why the hell would i waste $60 on a game that cant be modified or tweaked? Why would i spend $60 on a game that remains the same the moment i hand over my money? A game that WILL NEVER EVOLVE AND CHANGE... is what consolites spend $60 for. Wtf kinda value is that?

Why would i want to change it? Im still playing GTAV, great fun. Soon i play MGSV at 1080/60.

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@walloftruth said:

@highking_kallor said:

@lundy86_4:

Then you have the grammer Nazis. May they live their boring life forever.

Oh, you've taken that seriously? But thanks for biting! <3

You think I was talking about you. Cute

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@Motokid6 said:

@The_Last_Ride

Whos pirating games? Im not pirating games. Thats not how it works when you have a job and a life you buy your games. ( consolites get mommy and daddy to do it 9 times outta 10 )

@KillzoneSnake:

Why would it sell better on ps4? You think PC gamers want GTA just so they can play in 1080 at 60fps, THAT'S IT?

No try 1440/1600p at 60-120fps with gsync and more mods/tweaks/settings then you'd know what to do with.

Then why do console games sell better when there are way more pc's out there?

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#187 The_Last_Ride
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@The_Last_Ride: Grandmas $250 Dell isnt a gaming pc. Even more ignorance.. amazing.

So you're telling me, you can't play games on that? I can play most game on my 2 year old laptop...

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@The_Last_Ride said:

@Motokid6 said:

@The_Last_Ride

Whos pirating games? Im not pirating games. Thats not how it works when you have a job and a life you buy your games. ( consolites get mommy and daddy to do it 9 times outta 10 )

@KillzoneSnake:

Why would it sell better on ps4? You think PC gamers want GTA just so they can play in 1080 at 60fps, THAT'S IT?

No try 1440/1600p at 60-120fps with gsync and more mods/tweaks/settings then you'd know what to do with.

Then why do console games sell better when there are way more pc's out there?

Selling better and actually make more profit for the developer are totally depend on the game and what platform their based on.

Consoles may get the sales with games like Call of Duty But many companies like Activision year after year report their pc division is making most of their profit.

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#190 The_Last_Ride
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@The_Last_Ride: I swear its like talking to a child..

Can your two year old laptop play games that are graphically equivalent to GTA? Smoothly? ( Because remember consolite logic is that indies dont count, right? ) If so then it sounds like you have a gaming laptop. Which brings me to my point. Gaming PC's are a different thing then the average personal computer. Which is a dieing breed as people move over to phones and tablets for every day browsing.

You say "Why do console games sell better when there are more PC's." Now.. there is a whole heep of crap thats twisted about that statement, but my phone is running out battery so i gotta keep it short. So instead of continuing to rant. A question... where do you get your sales figures from? And remember digital sales are NOT tallied. Which is how most if not all pc gamers get their games these days. Where consolites still have to buy physical copies. ( that is changing though ) So again what figures are you using to justify such a vague statement?

Or am i really talking to a child here? Meaning everything i just said was null..

Why is GTA the best selling game ever and it's not even on pc? Shouldn't pc games sell way more than console games? And no, it's not a gaming pc. As i said, i can run most games, not all

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#192  Edited By The_Last_Ride
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@Motokid6 said:

@The_Last_Ride: Do read the crap you type or are you just throwing it all out there to see whos gonna bite on your trolling? Im done with your ignorance.

THank you for making me win the argument then :)

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#193  Edited By lostrib
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@The_Last_Ride said:

@Motokid6 said:

@The_Last_Ride: Do read the crap you type or are you just throwing it all out there to see whos gonna bite on your trolling? Im done with your ignorance.

THank you for making me win the argument then :)

Calm down ladies. There's no fighting in System Wars

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#194 ProjectPat187
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@KillzoneSnake said:
@Motokid6 said:

@The_Last_Ride

Whos pirating games? Im not pirating games. Thats not how it works when you have a job and a life you buy your games. ( consolites get mommy and daddy to do it 9 times outta 10 )

@KillzoneSnake:

Why would it sell better on ps4? You think PC gamers want GTA just so they can play in 1080 at 60fps, THAT'S IT?

No try 1440/1600p at 60-120fps with gsync and more mods/tweaks/settings then you'd know what to do with.

PC gaming is pointless nowadays.

You obviously have no clue wtf you are talking about.

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@lostrib said:

@The_Last_Ride said:

@Motokid6 said:

@The_Last_Ride: Do read the crap you type or are you just throwing it all out there to see whos gonna bite on your trolling? Im done with your ignorance.

THank you for making me win the argument then :)

Calm down ladies. There's no fighting in System Wars

i am calm, he's being the unreasonable one. He didn't answer my question or have a good counter argument. When he throws such language out there i just take a guess that i won :). I am not fighting either btw

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#197 The_Last_Ride
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@Motokid6: How is that a troll question?

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#200 inb4uall
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LOL at the PC master race. GTA V lost relevancy so long ago.