This is why GTA V isn’t on PC yet

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#1  Edited By Shielder7
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Last night the bean counters at Take Two Interactive released their financials for the last year and there were some surprising announcements in between all the tedious non-GAAP and loan note talking.

First up let’s take a look at the juicy sales numbers.

Borderlands 2 has now become 2K’s biggest selling title with the latest retail push helping the title sail past the 8.5 million mark. 2K, owned by Take Two, also pulled in some great sales of their signature NBA 2K series with the latest version, NBA2K14, selling over 5 million units which has pushed the franchise over the 35 million mark to date.

But the real money spinner was obviously Grand Theft Auto V which has now officially sold over 32 million copies already and is still widely expected to earn a lot more money with upcoming DLC, Xbox One and PS4 versions as well as the much-anticipated PC version.

The rest of the income earned is spread across XCOM, Bioshock, WWE, Civ 5 and GTA: San Andreas to name a few.

However those aren’t the most surprising numbers from the announcement. If you scroll all the way down Take Two have also given the breakdown of sales according to mobile, console or PC and the results are mind-blowing.

Consoles vs The Master Race

In the 2012 financial year the breakdown was as follows

  • Console – 80%
  • PC – 18%
  • Mobile – 2%

A clear lead for the console market which is a bit of a shock since Max Payne 3 was released during that time on all platforms.

But fast forward to today and the breakdown for 2013 sales is vastly different

  • Console – 97%
  • PC – 3%
  • Mobile – 0%

To put it bluntly Take Two is now simply a console house with that 3% barely even worth the effort of porting games over. Games like NBA2K, Borderlands 2 and XCOM: Enemy Within are debatable better on the console and with consoles having total domination inside the company you can understand why top titles like Red Dead Redemption and Grand Theft Auto V simply aren’t on the immediate horizon for PC gamers.

Do we have to mention the obvious factor of piracy being a major issue on the PC and that is possibly why Take-2 are investing more into consoles than the platform of the master race?

Sales tactics and Digital vs Retail

Take Two’s new sales plan also includes bundles with their next two bundles being Borderlands 2 & Dishonoured hitting retailers on the 11th of February along with a second, decidedly odd bundle of Skyrim & Bioshock Infinite which would make a perfect Valentine’s present for that special person in your life.

And for all of those, like me, who was worried that digital sales would ruin the typical retail experience it is nice to see that Take Two’s digital sales only accounted for 3% of all their sales. Again with GTA V skewing that results quite badly. Last year digital accounted for 22% of sales as a comparison.

The last bit of interesting info is that North America counts for 45% of all Take Two sales with the rest of the world combined making up the other 55% with no region being big enough to get a special mention.

http://www.lazygamer.net/xbox-360/this-is-why-gta-v-isnt-on-pc-yet/

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#2 lostrib
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old news

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@lostrib said:

old news

It's less than a month old and LOL so much for the Master Race and their Master sales.

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#4  Edited By Joedgabe
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Because Rockstar said it doesn't feel it needs to release it in more platforms probably because everyone was all cocky saying "yea right rockstar you'll release it on PC next year we'll wait for it" but rockstar was like " ..I.. you're my whore, you play by my rules and i say buy it for ps3/360 then! you'll get it for PC when i feel like it"

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It couldn't possibly be because of a trend that started in 2001 with GTA III could it? When console manufacturers signed exlusitivity deals with R* because GTA is a system mover? No, no....let's be peasant fanboys and trolls instead of looking at the data!

GTA III: console - October 22, 2001, PC - May 20, 2002

Vice City: console - 27 October 2002, PC - 12 May 2003

San Andreas: console - October 26, 2004, PC/xbox - June 7, 2005

GTA IV: console - 29 April 2008, PC - 2 December 2008

GTA V: console - 17 September 2013, PC: ?

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@Joedgabe said:

Because Rockstar said it doesn't feel it needs to release it in more platforms probably because everyone was all cocky saying "yea right rockstar you'll release it on PC next gear we'll wait for it" but rockstar was like " ..I.. you're my whore, you play by my rules and i say buy it for ps3/360 then! you'll get it for PC when i feel like it"

But fast forward to today and the breakdown for 2013 sales is vastly different

  • Console – 97%
  • PC – 3%
  • Mobile – 0%

More like it just doesn't want to. 3% while 5 more % probably pirated it.

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#8  Edited By Cranler
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@Shielder7 said:

@lostrib said:

old news

It's less than a month old and LOL so much for the Master Race and their Master sales.

How is pc supposed to be more than 3% when Take Two's biggest game by far isn't on pc?

PC is getting more multiplats than ever, pc game sales are higher than ever and pc has a much higher percentage of digital sales which are much more profitable than retail.

They're waiting for GTA V sales to slow down on console. Then when in fear of a bad fiscal quarter they'll release the pc and next gen versions.

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#9  Edited By Daious
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@Shielder7 said:

@lostrib said:

old news

It's less than a month old and LOL so much for the Master Race and their Master sales.

you are combining 3 consoles over one system in 2012

and now there are 6 consoles

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@Shielder7 said:

@lostrib said:

old news

It's less than a month old and LOL so much for the Master Race and their Master sales.

Overall, PC actually does have the highest sales revenue for games.

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Lol, you don't even know what you're posting. Of course their sales on PC are going to be lower, their biggest game didn't release on PC moron. Plus, you're comparing multiple console markets to a single PC market. Of course the numbers are going to be lower for PC, you're comparing it to multiple other platforms. This doesn't prove anything.

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God the stupidity knows no bounds.considering nearly all of take twos earnings were from gta v in 2013 a game which isnt on the pc and there was no big pc releases then why are these numbers surprising....god your inability to provide an argument proof opinion is as usual non existent

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#13  Edited By Jankarcop
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yikes Shielder7 is getting destroyed by everyone....I guess this is what prison gang rape looks like.

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And you don´t think that would be because the game that contributes by far the most for those numbers was GTAV and that wasn´t on the PC?

No wonder you´re one of the village idiots of this place.

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#15  Edited By gameofthering
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Seems like everybody has already said the answer.

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Probably cause the petition hasnt reach a high enough number yet. It's around 650,000 now. Might wait till million, since pc beggars will mostly pirate the game. Try and get the demand large enough to scrape together what little profit they can with the actual buyers and not pirates.

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@Toxic-Seahorse said:

Lol, you don't even know what you're posting. Of course their sales on PC are going to be lower, their biggest game didn't release on PC moron. Plus, you're comparing multiple console markets to a single PC market. Of course the numbers are going to be lower for PC, you're comparing it to multiple other platforms. This doesn't prove anything.

Hahahahahahaha, deja vu

The EXACT same thread was made before, and the exact same answer was given, thus owning the TC.

As you said, 2013 was the year GTA 5 on consoles was released, GTA 5 was the best selling entertainment product ever released.

So TC is actually saying that GTA 5 is not on PC because PC sales were low in 2013 because GTA 5 was released exclusively on consoles.

Anyway, I wouldn't care if GTA 5 never came to PC. I played it on console and PC only gamers aren't missing out on much. Most overhyped game of 2013 IMO.

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@Jankarcop said:

@Shielder7 said:

@lostrib said:

old news

It's less than a month old and LOL so much for the Master Race and their Master sales.

Overall, PC actually does have the highest sales revenue for games.

Yeah prove it wheres the numbers.

@Arach666 said:

And you don´t think that would be because the game that contributes by far the most for those numbers was GTAV and that wasn´t on the PC?

No wonder you´re one of the village idiots of this place.

So what's the excuse for 2012 financial year? Max Payne 3 was released during that time on all platforms.

@Jankarcop said:

yikes Shielder7 is getting destroyed by everyone....I guess this is what prison gang rape looks like.

All I see is damage control hermits in full force with no proof just nerd rage opinions.

@xboxdone74 said:

Probably cause the petition hasnt reach a high enough number yet. It's around 650,000 now. Might wait till million, since pc beggars will mostly pirate the game. Try and get the demand large enough to scrape together what little profit they can with the actual buyers and not pirates.

They'll release it on PC once all the money has been made, even if 2/3rds of the people pirate it they'll still make some money and a port to PC is nothing 2 weeks and 2 guys could do it.

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#19  Edited By HaloinventedFPS
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Biased, That PC percentage would be much higher if GTAV wasn't delayed on PC, PC version would have sell millions of copies & people would have gotten it on PC instead of console

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@Shielder7 said:

@Arach666 said:

And you don´t think that would be because the game that contributes by far the most for those numbers was GTAV and that wasn´t on the PC?

No wonder you´re one of the village idiots of this place.

So what's the excuse for 2012 financial year? Max Payne 3 was released during that time on all platforms.

Max Payne 3 flopped across all platforms. It flopped on PC, it flopped on 360 and it flopped on PS3.

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Old article is old. Still, TC got destroyed rather quickly.

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#22 Shielder7
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@Toxic-Seahorse said:

Lol, you don't even know what you're posting. Of course their sales on PC are going to be lower, their biggest game didn't release on PC moron. Plus, you're comparing multiple console markets to a single PC market. Of course the numbers are going to be lower for PC, you're comparing it to multiple other platforms. This doesn't prove anything.

In the 2012 financial year the breakdown was as follows

  • Console – 80%
  • PC – 18%
  • Mobile – 2%

A clear lead for the console market which is a bit of a shock since Max Payne 3 was released during that time on all platforms.

Even if you were to split PS3 and 360 evenly the would still over double the PC numbers that proves a lot.

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@xboxdone74 said:

Probably cause the petition hasnt reach a high enough number yet. It's around 650,000 now. Might wait till million, since pc beggars will mostly pirate the game. Try and get the demand large enough to scrape together what little profit they can with the actual buyers and not pirates.

Since that last thread got locked, u mad bro?

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GTA V sales really help dwarf the PC's percentage... As well as the fact that they lump all other consoles in one percentage.

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@Shielder7 said:
@Toxic-Seahorse said:

Lol, you don't even know what you're posting. Of course their sales on PC are going to be lower, their biggest game didn't release on PC moron. Plus, you're comparing multiple console markets to a single PC market. Of course the numbers are going to be lower for PC, you're comparing it to multiple other platforms. This doesn't prove anything.

In the 2012 financial year the breakdown was as follows

  • Console – 80%
  • PC – 18%
  • Mobile – 2%

A clear lead for the console market which is a bit of a shock since Max Payne 3 was released during that time on all platforms.

Even if you were to split PS3 and 360 evenly the would still over double the PC numbers that proves a lot.

Uh what other games released that year? and does console only include PS3 and 360?

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#26 EndlessInfinity
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@Shielder7:

you do realize that doesn't count only the ps3 and xbox360

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@R4gn4r0k said:

@Shielder7 said:

@Arach666 said:

And you don´t think that would be because the game that contributes by far the most for those numbers was GTAV and that wasn´t on the PC?

No wonder you´re one of the village idiots of this place.

So what's the excuse for 2012 financial year? Max Payne 3 was released during that time on all platforms.

Max Payne 3 flopped across all platforms. It flopped on PC, it flopped on 360 and it flopped on PS3.

Metascore 87
http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/max-payne-3
It also has a 90% score on Gamespot if I'm not mistaken so how is this a flop? lol you hermits are getting as desperate and dumb as lemmings. Just admit it Consoles sell the most games when it comes to AAA+ it's ok to admit your wrong as long as you rename yourselves the Master Disgrace LOL.
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@Shielder7 said:
@Toxic-Seahorse said:

Lol, you don't even know what you're posting. Of course their sales on PC are going to be lower, their biggest game didn't release on PC moron. Plus, you're comparing multiple console markets to a single PC market. Of course the numbers are going to be lower for PC, you're comparing it to multiple other platforms. This doesn't prove anything.

In the 2012 financial year the breakdown was as follows

  • Console – 80%
  • PC – 18%
  • Mobile – 2%

A clear lead for the console market which is a bit of a shock since Max Payne 3 was released during that time on all platforms.

Even if you were to split PS3 and 360 evenly the would still over double the PC numbers that proves a lot.

It proves something we already know which is shooters and sports games sell better on console.

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@Shielder7:

http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in/max-payne-3-commercial-disappointment-184126253.html

High scores does not guarantee high sales *faceplam you are a moron

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@clyde46: He must be ignoring you.

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@Shielder7 said:

Metascore 87 http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/max-payne-3 It also has a 90% score on Gamespot if I'm not mistaken so how is this a flop? lol you hermits are getting as desperate and dumb as lemmings. Just admit it Consoles sell the most games when it comes to AAA+ it's ok to admit your wrong as long as you rename yourselves the Master Disgrace LOL.

Seriously guy, you are having some issues handling facts.

You do know that a flop has multiple meanings right ? It flopped as in it didn't sell as well as they had expected. In fact it sold really bad. You keep bringing up the game as a example of the sales numbers of 2012. You really couldn't think that far ? ****, some people are stupid on here.

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@Shielder7 said:

Yeah prove it wheres the numbers.

You just got wrecked again in your own thread. Hows it feel?

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@gameofthering said:

@clyde46: He must be ignoring you.

He's running from the ownage.

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Hermits - "bu but RDR is coming to PC...... they promised us

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@epic-gamerz:

ok troll alt

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#36  Edited By GhoX
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A large company lacking diversity can only be viewed as a weakness.

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#37  Edited By Jankarcop
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@epic-gamerz said:

Hermits - "bu but RDR is coming to PC...... they promised us

Poor Shielder, driven to using an alt after having everyone jizz on his head.

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@clyde46: jelly confirmed. :)

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lol I knew it. Besides MMO, RTS and indies all the AAA games sell better on consoles than on PC. Hermits will turn a blind eye to this and try to spin it but theres just no denying. Even the chart stated above tells the highest PC revenue are MMO... Now expect the predictable "MMO also counts as games" responses from hermits (wich is true) but a platform cant only live on MMO.

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#40  Edited By TheFadeForever
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@Vatusus:

The chart above said pc software sales are higher than MMO unless you think somehow retail and digital are completely separate but you know your not very smart.

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#41  Edited By AcidTango
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I'm surprised that they didn't announce it yet on PC. It's been 6 months since GTA V came out and yet no release date for the PC version?

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Lol typical console peasant.

Comparing multiple platforms vs one.

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#43 pelvist
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This thread turned into a game of soggy biscuit, OP was the last one to finish and now he is eating it.

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@TheFadeForever said:

@Vatusus:

The chart above said pc software sales are higher than MMO unless you think somehow retail and digital are completely separate but you know your not very smart.

Sorry, I meant MMO + causal games + social networks = casual filth gaming

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#45  Edited By TheFadeForever
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@Vatusus:

MMO is casual? Please explain why and how they actually belong with social network games and casual games which btw can be played on tablets and androids unless you think you need a pc to play some of them. And please nothing stupid like a lot of stuff you fail to explain this time.

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#46  Edited By naz99
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Its like you console fanboys want to get owned by constantly posting pathectic rebuttals...actual honest to goodness level headed console gamers should be embarresed by you, like us pc gamers are ashamed by Sniper.

Jelly? no

No Red Dead Redemption? (will just play many other games)

Pc gamers are pirates (GTA V pirated weeks before release on consoles) and everybody know a pirated copy does not equal a lost sale.

MMo's are casual (so what ?) and they are not anyway

And RTS's don't count as actual games (wtf???)

etc,etc,etc

Always the same tired recycled crap because you lack any solid facts that work in your favour,God damn you guys fail on a whole other level,its pure entertainment,like waiting to see the village idiot.

Please own us all again we need to be entertained :P

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@epic-gamerz said:

Hermits - "bu but RDR is coming to PC...... they promised us

I don't think that was ever promised

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@Jankarcop said:

yikes Shielder7 is getting destroyed by everyone....I guess this is what prison gang rape looks like.

You would know. Being the expert and all.

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@lostrib said:

@epic-gamerz said:

Hermits - "bu but RDR is coming to PC...... they promised us

I don't think that was ever promised

It wasn't.

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#50  Edited By uninspiredcup
Member since 2013 • 58960 Posts

Console gamers buy games, publishers focus on them. Pc masterrace scratches head as to figure out why. Blames console gamers.