The Witcher 2 looks like a console action RPG more than anything...

[QUOTE="Guppy507"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] Cool opinion? Even if that was, why wouldn't they improve it, instead they changed complete direction towards console street.mitu123

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] No, I don't understand how the game-play can be a bonus in an RPG.

Demon Souls is one of the best RPG's this gen and it barely even have a story.

Nothing in my post related to story or characters... You still didn't answer my question. It plays the same as Fable III. It might not be super easy or insanely imbalanced, but that's the idea with the combat. Fable III or Demon Souls..

killzoneded

Demons Souls would loose 99% of its appeal with a keyboard and mouse for me

i know the point of this thread is negative, but for some reason the title makes me happy. action RPG FTW. Mafty

I'm gonna horribly butcher up your post structure for the sake of clarity, so forgive me.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

1. Unlike the previous game it has no free isometric camera,

2. it doesn't have the mouse interface while in game ,

3. instead it has twitchy dodge mechanics, mash to attack,

4. and a combat interface taken straight from Dragon Age (console version)

Discuss.

rpgs_shall_rule

1. This sucks. Hopefully you can still zoom out quite far.

2. I hate whoever decided this. Radial menu = bad...

3. Not really a bad thing. Or a console thing. Kinda reminds me of the double tap to dodge in UT.

4. Radial menu again? FFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Guppy507"] How is this not improved over the first one?110million

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Oh give it a rest already, it does not look like a console actino rpg.

kozzy1234

Did you even play Fable???? There was NO story or good characters there, one of the worst stories/characters ever for an rpg. The Witcher2 looks to have an epic story with great characters. There is plenty more I could list, but to compare The Witcher2 to Fable3 shows your ignorance.

A console action rpg would be Gothic4, were they took everything away and made a crap game, The Witcher2 looks fantastic, haters gonna hate though.

"OH NO!!! NOT THE WHEEL IN WITCHER2!! THE CONSOLIZED!"
Comparing Fable3 to The Witcher series is hilarious and shows your ignorance.

And your post belies your ignorance. Story is not a PC specific feature. It does not define a PC RPG. Thus, you have not, in any way, addressed Showzer's points at all. Although I would not go as far as calling The Witcher 2 a console ARPG, I do lament certain directions the game has taken, especially with respect to the UI and such.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Guppy507"] How is this not improved over the first one?110million

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] No, I don't understand how the game-play can be a bonus in an RPG.

Demon Souls is one of the best RPG's this gen and it barely even have a story.

Nothing in my post related to story or characters... You still didn't answer my question. It plays the same as Fable III. It might not be super easy or insanely imbalanced, but that's the idea with the combat. Fable III or Demon Souls..

killzoneded

Demons Souls would loose 99% of its appeal with a keyboard and mouse for me

[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="mitu123"]Because it doesn't have mindless clicking.:lol:

GeneralShowzer

Nothing is wrong with radial menus, they've been used in PC games since the 90s and they work fine. You hate radial menus because recent console ports misuse radial menus, thus making them annoying.

SAGE_OF_FIRE

Ok, I hate radial menus that require you to hold the button down to keep open, and that don't pause the game. If they worked like every other menu, I'd be fine with it (kinda; I still hate the shape).

I'm gonna horribly butcher up your post structure for the sake of clarity, so forgive me.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

1. Unlike the previous game it has no free isometric camera,

2. it doesn't have the mouse interface while in game ,

3. instead it has twitchy dodge mechanics, mash to attack,

4. and a combat interface taken straight from Dragon Age (console version)

Discuss.

rpgs_shall_rule

1. This sucks. Hopefully you can still zoom out quite far.

2. I hate whoever decided this. Radial menu = bad...

3. Not really a bad thing. Or a console thing. Kinda reminds me of the double tap to dodge in UT.

4. Radial menu again? FFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Its kind of ironic that when a PC exclusive clearly looks like its being "consolized" away from its predecessor that hermits defend it blindly.

Yet its almost guaranteed that if this was coming to consoles as well they'd be screaming "CONSOLIZATIONZ"

Funny how things work out like that.

Fable with good graphics confirmed?MFDOOM1983

I'm gonna horribly butcher up your post structure for the sake of clarity, so forgive me.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

1. Unlike the previous game it has no free isometric camera,

2. it doesn't have the mouse interface while in game ,

3. instead it has twitchy dodge mechanics, mash to attack,

4. and a combat interface taken straight from Dragon Age (console version)

Discuss.

rpgs_shall_rule

1. This sucks. Hopefully you can still zoom out quite far.

2. I hate whoever decided this. Radial menu = bad...

3. Not really a bad thing. Or a console thing. Kinda reminds me of the double tap to dodge in UT.

4. Radial menu again? FFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

The first Witcher had 5 different signs. A radial menu works perfectly fine for that. Besides, it was a hassle to change signs in the first game. You had to pause the game to get your mouse cursor on screen, then you had to manually select what sign you wanted. In this, it looks much faster, taking you out of combat for a shorter period of time. It reminds me of choosing your suit abliity in Crysis.

Witcher 1 was good for the atmosphere, characters, alchemy and "adult-ness".

As long as those things are intact its a win.

Consoles definitely ruin games, but not because of menus, rather simplified gameplay/corridors/remove gear for the ADD-brahs.

I don't think you need to worry about this one, even with 'radial menus'.

Its kind of ironic that when a PC exclusive clearly looks like its being "consolized" away from its predecessor that hermits defend it blindly.

Yet its almost guaranteed that if this was coming to consoles as well they'd be screaming "CONSOLIZATIONZ"

Funny how things work out like that.

h575309

[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="mitu123"]Because it doesn't have mindless clicking.:lol:

GeneralShowzer

Its kind of ironic that when a PC exclusive clearly looks like its being "consolized" away from its predecessor that hermits defend it blindly.

Yet its almost guaranteed that if this was coming to consoles as well they'd be screaming "CONSOLIZATIONZ"

Funny how things work out like that.

h575309

Its kind of ironic that when a PC exclusive clearly looks like its being "consolized" away from its predecessor that hermits defend it blindly.

Yet its almost guaranteed that if this was coming to consoles as well they'd be screaming "CONSOLIZATIONZ"

Funny how things work out like that.

h575309

Its kind of ironic that when a PC exclusive clearly looks like its being "consolized" away from its predecessor that hermits defend it blindly.

Yet its almost guaranteed that if this was coming to consoles as well they'd be screaming "CONSOLIZATIONZ"

Funny how things work out like that.

h575309

...?

Please enlighten us as to which game you're thinking of.

[QUOTE="h575309"]

Its kind of ironic that when a PC exclusive clearly looks like its being "consolized" away from its predecessor that hermits defend it blindly.

Yet its almost guaranteed that if this was coming to consoles as well they'd be screaming "CONSOLIZATIONZ"

Funny how things work out like that.

GeneralShowzer

[QUOTE="rpgs_shall_rule"]

I'm gonna horribly butcher up your post structure for the sake of clarity, so forgive me.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

1. Unlike the previous game it has no free isometric camera,

2. it doesn't have the mouse interface while in game ,

3. instead it has twitchy dodge mechanics, mash to attack,

4. and a combat interface taken straight from Dragon Age (console version)

Discuss.

Guppy507

1. This sucks. Hopefully you can still zoom out quite far.

2. I hate whoever decided this. Radial menu = bad...

3. Not really a bad thing. Or a console thing. Kinda reminds me of the double tap to dodge in UT.

4. Radial menu again? FFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

The first Witcher had 5 different signs. A radial menue works perfectly fine for that. Besides, it was a hassle to change signs in the first game. You had to pause the game to get your mouse cursor, then you had to manually select what sign you wanted. In this, it looks much faster, taking you out of combat for a shorter period of time. It reminds me of choosing your suit abliity in Crysis.

It's nothing like Crysis. The interface works the same way as Mass Effect / Dragon Age : Origins on consoles. (You pause the game to select a spell/ ability from a radial menu and bind them to Y and B key. It's not a coincidence, trust me.)

"OH NO!!! THE WHEEL! THE WITCHER2 HAS TEH WHEEL! CONSOLIZED TRASH!" :lol:

Someone bump that thread, was hilarious.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="h575309"]

Its kind of ironic that when a PC exclusive clearly looks like its being "consolized" away from its predecessor that hermits defend it blindly.

Yet its almost guaranteed that if this was coming to consoles as well they'd be screaming "CONSOLIZATIONZ"

Funny how things work out like that.

SAGE_OF_FIRE

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="h575309"]

Its kind of ironic that when a PC exclusive clearly looks like its being "consolized" away from its predecessor that hermits defend it blindly.

Yet its almost guaranteed that if this was coming to consoles as well they'd be screaming "CONSOLIZATIONZ"

Funny how things work out like that.

SAGE_OF_FIRE

[QUOTE="killzoneded"]

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"] Demon's Souls would have worked better with a kb/mouse, and The Witcher 2 still has all the dice rolls in the background. GeneralShowzer

Demons Souls would loose 99% of its appeal with a keyboard and mouse for me

I will definatly play it with a 360 pad, like i did with Xpadder abd Amnesia and made the game far more immersive

Thank god for the native support

I will also definatly buy the xbox 360 version too when it comes later

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="Guppy507"] How is this not improved over the first one?Guppy507

Seriously though, this is a nice change, next thing you'll know some may complain about the combat not changing or improving.

The lip syncing looks horribad for this game

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="h575309"]

Its kind of ironic that when a PC exclusive clearly looks like its being "consolized" away from its predecessor that hermits defend it blindly.

Yet its almost guaranteed that if this was coming to consoles as well they'd be screaming "CONSOLIZATIONZ"

Funny how things work out like that.

SAGE_OF_FIRE

Exactly, trolls seem to forget that differnt does not = simplified or consolized. HUGE difference.

"OH NO!!! THE WHEEL! THE WITCHER2 HAS TEH WHEEL! CONSOLIZED TRASH!" :lol:

Someone bump that thread, was hilarious.

kozzy1234

The devs have confirmed that the game supports both mouse and keyboard and gamepad.

They said they built TWO different interfaces to best handle the two types of input.

That's EXACTLY what we PC gamers want. More options (M&K or controller) and care taken to seperate the two, giving us a control scheme/camera/GUI that takes into account the strengths and weaknesses of BOTH.

I wish more devs did this.

Hell, most devs will actually tell you right off the bat that they're too lazy to do that! Bioware, for example.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="h575309"]

Its kind of ironic that when a PC exclusive clearly looks like its being "consolized" away from its predecessor that hermits defend it blindly.

Yet its almost guaranteed that if this was coming to consoles as well they'd be screaming "CONSOLIZATIONZ"

Funny how things work out like that.

SAGE_OF_FIRE

the devs have confirmed that the game supports both mouse and keyboard and gamepad.

They said they built TWO different interfaces to best handle the two types of input.

That EXACTLY what we PC gamers want. More options (M&K or controller) and care taken to seperate the two, giving us a control scheme/camera/GUI that takes into account the strengths and weaknesses of BOTH.

I wish more devs did this.

Kinthalis

The lip syncing looks horribad for this game

tonitorsi

[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

The lip syncing looks horribad for this game

SAGE_OF_FIRE

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="h575309"]

Its kind of ironic that when a PC exclusive clearly looks like its being "consolized" away from its predecessor that hermits defend it blindly.

Yet its almost guaranteed that if this was coming to consoles as well they'd be screaming "CONSOLIZATIONZ"

Funny how things work out like that.

SAGE_OF_FIRE

Please point to where i said that the game "Is consolised because of the wheel"GeneralShowzer

It's an action rpg and and as with all the other action rpgs it has a simple combat. Neither the first nor the second are hard to play with a gamepad. Witcher 1 was PC exclusive not because the gameplay was hard to transfer in consoles but because the developers didn't have enough money to port it.

That said hotbar > radial menu.

Please point to where i said that the game "Is consolised because of the wheel"GeneralShowzer

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Please point to where i said that the game "Is consolised because of the wheel"SAGE_OF_FIRE

Dont remind him! He does not want to hear it!:lol:

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Please point to where i said that the game "Is consolised because of the wheel"110million

You seem to missed that in the first game if you pressed SHIFT the mouse would pop right up and you can change stances, spells, or use potions with a mouse, and you didn't need to pause.GeneralShowzer

It's nothing like Crysis. The interface works the same way as Mass Effect / Dragon Age : Origins on consoles. (You pause the game to select a spell/ ability from a radial menu and bind them to Y and B key. It's not a coincidence, trust me.)GeneralShowzer

[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Please point to where i said that the game "Is consolised because of the wheel"kozzy1234

hahaha, now he is trying to deny making that thread, this dude is just a troll plain and simple.

The lip syncing looks horribad for this game