The Witcher 2 looks like a console action RPG more than anything...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEUazuUBZ4Y

10 minute gameplay video, with combat.

Unlike the previous game it has no free isometric camera, it doesn't have the mouse interface while in game , instead it has twitchy dodge mechanics, mash to attack, fixed camera, and a combat interface taken straight from Dragon Age (console version)

Works like a console action RPG ala Fable III or Demon Souls.

The Witcher 2 looks better in almost every way than the Witcher , I'm not saying it doesn't, but how do PC gamers feel about the sudden change in direction.

The point I'm trying to make is, people should stop putting down other RPG's, while hyping The Witcher 2 as the only true PC RPG, it's really in the same ball as any of those games.

And I think that it's kind of bad how every developer completely shifts focus the first chance they get.

Discuss.

Good news.IronBass

The Witcher 2 seems like it will be the better game, but that's because of the increased budget more than anything. And the experience the developers got.

This video begs to differ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs5_8gGR9ns&feature=related

Whats the point of this thread, did anyone miss the boring combat of the old one? It wasnt strategic in anyway, just click your mouse whenever u see the arrow turn orange, hell half the time I didnt even need to take the extra effort to face the enemy as the game did that. Really this looks like a much better improvement.

no free isometric camera,GeneralShowzer

it doesn't have the mouse interface while in gameGeneralShowzer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEUazuUBZ4Y

10 minute gameplay video, with combat.

Unlike the previous game it has no free isometric camera, it doesn't have the mouse interface while in game , instead it has twitchy dodge mechanics, mash to attack, fixed camera, and a combat interface taken straight from Dragon Age (console version)

Works like a console action RPG ala Fable III or Demon Souls.

The Witcher 2 looks better in almost every way than the Witcher , I'm not saying it doesn't, but how do PC gamers feel about the sudden change in direction.

Discuss.

GeneralShowzer

You seem to feel very insecure about these issues.

The only usable camera angle in TW was the one they kept for the sequel. So what? The game looks awesome, and from what I've seen in this video, gameplay isn't light years away (well, let's say that some idiot playing seems to particularly love doing barrel rolls for some reason... Noone forces use to overuse it like him).

The real question for gamers is : will the Witcher 2 offer a great story, and will choices be numerous and have a real influence on the story? Because that's what TW was all aout. Combat was nothing special, so trying to change it is a good thing per se.

dat pony tail. My attention keeps going to that xD

Anyways I didnt think the combat in TW was bad nor good... just medicore. The story and influence was what made it a great overall experience. I'm glad they are trying to make the combat more enjoyable.

Even if it did, why does it matter. AAllxxjjnn

The real question for gamers is : will the Witcher 2 offer a great story, and will choices be numerous and have a real influence on the story? Because that's what TW was all aout. Combat was nothing special, so trying to change it is a good thing per se.

milannoir

Oh give it a rest already, it does not look like a console actino rpg.

kozzy1234

What PC specific feature does it use to separate it from console action RPGs ?

Can you answer me that?

Wouldn't real gamers ask about the game-play first and story second?

GeneralShowzer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEUazuUBZ4Y

10 minute gameplay video, with combat.

Unlike the previous game it has no free isometric camera, it doesn't have the mouse interface while in game , instead it has twitchy dodge mechanics, mash to attack, fixed camera, and a combat interface taken straight from Dragon Age (console version)

Works like a console action RPG ala Fable III or Demon Souls.

The Witcher 2 looks better in almost every way than the Witcher , I'm not saying it doesn't, but how do PC gamers feel about the sudden change in direction.

Discuss.

GeneralShowzer

It is made for consoles from day one, the engine, interface and you will notice how it is always on paths than wide open spaces

They hire people for 360 development as we speak too, so obviously is like that because is coming to consoles

It even has native xbox360 pad support

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Wouldn't real gamers ask about the game-play first and story second?

Guppy507

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEUazuUBZ4Y

10 minute gameplay video, with combat.

Unlike the previous game it has no free isometric camera, it doesn't have the mouse interface while in game , instead it has twitchy dodge mechanics, mash to attack, fixed camera, and a combat interface taken straight from Dragon Age (console version)

Works like a console action RPG ala Fable III or Demon Souls.

The Witcher 2 looks better in almost every way than the Witcher , I'm not saying it doesn't, but how do PC gamers feel about the sudden change in direction.

Discuss.

killzoneded

It is made for consoles from day one, the engine, interface and you will notice how it is always on paths than wide open spaces

They hire people for 360 development as we speak too, so obviously is like that because is coming to consoles

Just like The Witcher1 was comign to consoles for sure years ago right? They hired peopel to work on that and that got canned.

This is a pc exclusives that MIGHT be coming to consoles one day.

Hell, ARMA2 had peopel working on a version for cosnoles but that never came out either.
Did you forget about The WItcher1 being worked on for consoles and then canned?

I had a friend bet em 25$ taht The Witcher1 would come to consoles soon after the pc version but that never happened, they had people working on it but it got cancelled. Same thign could happen with the Witcher2 we will see. But as of right now its beign built ground up for PC with HOPE that they can port it to consoles one day (might not come to consoles though just like Witcher didnt, even though they said they were working on The Wticher1 for consoles)

[QUOTE="Guppy507"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Wouldn't real gamers ask about the game-play first and story second?

GeneralShowzer

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Wouldn't real gamers ask about the game-play first and story second?

Guppy507

OMG so beautiful and combat looks okay. Still not planning to get this game through.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Oh give it a rest already, it does not look like a console actino rpg.

kozzy1234

Did you even play Fable???? There was NO story or good characters there, one of the worst stories/characters ever for an rpg. The Witcher2 looks to have an epic story with great characters. There is plenty more I could list, but to compare The Witcher2 to Fable3 shows your ignorance.

A console action rpg would be Gothic4, were they took everything away and made a crap game, The Witcher2 looks fantastic, haters gonna hate though.

"OH NO!!! NOT THE WHEEL IN WITCHER2!! THE CONSOLIZED!"
Comparing Fable3 to The Witcher series is hilarious and shows your ignorance.

An epic story is not a PC specific feature

:|

What PC specific feature does it have to separate it from Fable III?

I'm talking about the combat or the interface. Gothic IV was simplified from Gothic III, I don't know why you bring it in the discussion.

Lulz, the 1st one was a mindless click fest, at least this one tries to improve, even some console RPGs had better combat.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="Guppy507"] With how terrible the first game's gameplay was, I don't think any Witcher fans care.

Deadbeatcobra

If you pay attention, you'll see that the rolls for each attack are being shown in the bottom right side of the screen. While every single type of game has a statistical background to define outcome of actions,I identify showing rolls as a typical PC stuff.

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] Ok, what does it do different than Fable III? What PC specific feature does it use to separate it from console action RPGs ?GeneralShowzer

Did you even play Fable???? There was NO story or good characters there, one of the worst stories/characters ever for an rpg. The Witcher2 looks to have an epic story with great characters. There is plenty more I could list, but to compare The Witcher2 to Fable3 shows your ignorance.

A console action rpg would be Gothic4, were they took everything away and made a crap game, The Witcher2 looks fantastic, haters gonna hate though.

"OH NO!!! NOT THE WHEEL IN WITCHER2!! THE CONSOLIZED!"
Comparing Fable3 to The Witcher series is hilarious and shows your ignorance.

An epic story is not a PC specific feature

:|

What PC specific feature does it have to separate it from Fable III?

I'm talking about the combat or the interface. Gothic IV was simplified from Gothic III, I don't know why you bring it in the discussion.

Im talkign about overall here, story cahracters is what I need in an rpg, the gameplay is a bonus. Understand? Nothing I said in that post was insulting, but if you take it that way then fine go ahead.

The game world looks huge and awesome grpahics, the story and characters look good, the gameplay looks improved, you comaring it to Fable3 is hilarious, that game was garbage.

everything is improved jsut look at the videos.

But there is no talkign to you, sayign games suck ebfore they are out, its hilarious.

MR "I review games before they are out"

Everyone saw how shallow you are about videogames when you made the thread about THE WITCHER HAS THE WHEEL!! CONSOLIZED!!" You got clowed non stop in that thread, lets re-visit shall we?

You make no good legit points at all, just call The WItcher consolized and compare it to Fable3 now.

[QUOTE="Guppy507"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Wouldn't real gamers ask about the game-play first and story second?

GeneralShowzer

[QUOTE="killzoneded"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEUazuUBZ4Y

10 minute gameplay video, with combat.

Unlike the previous game it has no free isometric camera, it doesn't have the mouse interface while in game , instead it has twitchy dodge mechanics, mash to attack, fixed camera, and a combat interface taken straight from Dragon Age (console version)

Works like a console action RPG ala Fable III or Demon Souls.

The Witcher 2 looks better in almost every way than the Witcher , I'm not saying it doesn't, but how do PC gamers feel about the sudden change in direction.

Discuss.

kozzy1234

It is made for consoles from day one, the engine, interface and you will notice how it is always on paths than wide open spaces

They hire people for 360 development as we speak too, so obviously is like that because is coming to consoles

Just like The Witcher1 was comign to consoles for sure years ago right? They hired peopel to work on that and that got canned.

This is a pc exclusives that MIGHT be coming to consoles one day.

Hell, ARMA2 had peopel working on a version for cosnoles but that never came out either.
Did you forget about The WItcher1 being worked on for consoles and then canned?

I had a friend bet em 25$ taht The Witcher1 would come to consoles soon after the pc version but that never happened, they had people working on it but it got cancelled. Same thign could happen with the Witcher2 we will see. But as of right now its beign built ground up for PC with HOPE that they can port it to consoles one day (might not come to consoles though just like Witcher didnt, even though they said they were working on The Wticher1 for consoles)

First of all, Withcer 1 cancellation does not in any shape or form mean that Withcer 2 will not come to consoles

Also W1 was made for PC and they tried to port to consoles, which is 100% different than Withcer 2 that is already confirmed to be running on xbox 360

[QUOTE="killzoneded"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEUazuUBZ4Y

10 minute gameplay video, with combat.

Unlike the previous game it has no free isometric camera, it doesn't have the mouse interface while in game , instead it has twitchy dodge mechanics, mash to attack, fixed camera, and a combat interface taken straight from Dragon Age (console version)

Works like a console action RPG ala Fable III or Demon Souls.

The Witcher 2 looks better in almost every way than the Witcher , I'm not saying it doesn't, but how do PC gamers feel about the sudden change in direction.

Discuss.

kozzy1234

It is made for consoles from day one, the engine, interface and you will notice how it is always on paths than wide open spaces

They hire people for 360 development as we speak too, so obviously is like that because is coming to consoles

Just like The Witcher1 was comign to consoles for sure years ago right? They hired peopel to work on that and that got canned.

This is a pc exclusives that MIGHT be coming to consoles one day.

Hell, ARMA2 had peopel working on a version for cosnoles but that never came out either.
Did you forget about The WItcher1 being worked on for consoles and then canned?

I had a friend bet em 25$ taht The Witcher1 would come to consoles soon after the pc version but that never happened, they had people working on it but it got cancelled. Same thign could happen with the Witcher2 we will see. But as of right now its beign built ground up for PC with HOPE that they can port it to consoles one day (might not come to consoles though just like Witcher didnt, even though they said they were working on The Wticher1 for consoles)

They have nothing to do with CD Projekt. You don't make a multiform engine, just for the **** of it, in hopes to bring it to consoles ONE FAR AWAY DAY.

It was made for consoles from day one. The Witcher 2 is a multi-platform game from the begining, and all of the changes made are for the multi-platform nature of the game.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="Guppy507"] With how terrible the first game's gameplay was, I don't think any Witcher fans care.

Guppy507

Doesn't matter what it looks like. It's what it actually is that counts.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Did you even play Fable???? There was NO story or good characters there, one of the worst stories/characters ever for an rpg. The Witcher2 looks to have an epic story with great characters. There is plenty more I could list, but to compare The Witcher2 to Fable3 shows your ignorance.

A console action rpg would be Gothic4, were they took everything away and made a crap game, The Witcher2 looks fantastic, haters gonna hate though.

"OH NO!!! NOT THE WHEEL IN WITCHER2!! THE CONSOLIZED!"
Comparing Fable3 to The Witcher series is hilarious and shows your ignorance.

kozzy1234

An epic story is not a PC specific feature

:|

What PC specific feature does it have to separate it from Fable III?

I'm talking about the combat or the interface. Gothic IV was simplified from Gothic III, I don't know why you bring it in the discussion.

Im talkign about overall here, story cahracters is what I need in an rpg, the gameplay is a bonus. Understand? Nothing I said in that post was insulting, but if you take it that way then fine go ahead.

The game world looks huge and awesome grpahics, the story and characters look good, the gameplay looks improved, you comaring it to Fable3 is hilarious, that game was garbage.

Demon Souls is one of the best RPG's this gen and it barely even have a story.

Nothing in my post related to story or characters... You still didn't answer my question. It plays the same as Fable III. It might not be super easy or insanely imbalanced, but that's the idea with the combat. Fable III or Demon Souls..

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] Even in your big and insulting post, you didn't answer my question.

An epic story is not a PC specific feature

:|

What PC specific feature does it have to separate it from Fable III?

I'm talking about the combat or the interface. Gothic IV was simplified from Gothic III, I don't know why you bring it in the discussion.

GeneralShowzer

Im talkign about overall here, story cahracters is what I need in an rpg, the gameplay is a bonus. Understand? Nothing I said in that post was insulting, but if you take it that way then fine go ahead.

The game world looks huge and awesome grpahics, the story and characters look good, the gameplay looks improved, you comaring it to Fable3 is hilarious, that game was garbage.

Demon Souls is one of the best RPG's this gen and it barely even have a story.

Nothing in my post related to story or characters... You still didn't answer my question. It plays the same as Fable III. It might not be super easy or insanely imbalanced, but that's the idea with the combat. Fable III or Demon Souls..

It was made for consoles from day one. The Witcher 2 is a multi-platform game from the begining, and all of the changes made are for the multi-platform nature of the game.

GeneralShowzer

What changes? Removing the terrible isometric camera? Making the gameplay look fun? Making a... *gasp*... radial menu for sign selection instead of?!

How is any of this any worse than the clunky U.I. and lame gameplay of the first game?

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Im talkign about overall here, story cahracters is what I need in an rpg, the gameplay is a bonus. Understand? Nothing I said in that post was insulting, but if you take it that way then fine go ahead.

The game world looks huge and awesome grpahics, the story and characters look good, the gameplay looks improved, you comaring it to Fable3 is hilarious, that game was garbage.

SAGE_OF_FIRE

Demon Souls is one of the best RPG's this gen and it barely even have a story.

Nothing in my post related to story or characters... You still didn't answer my question. It plays the same as Fable III. It might not be super easy or insanely imbalanced, but that's the idea with the combat. Fable III or Demon Souls..

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

It was made for consoles from day one. The Witcher 2 is a multi-platform game from the begining, and all of the changes made are for the multi-platform nature of the game.

Guppy507

What changes? Removing the terrible isometric camera? Making the gameplay look fun? Making a... *gasp*... radial menu for sign selection instead of?!

How is any of this any worse than the clunky U.I. and lame gameplay of the first game?

I'm gonna horribly butcher up your post structure for the sake of clarity, so forgive me.

1. Unlike the previous game it has no free isometric camera,

2. it doesn't have the mouse interface while in game ,

3. instead it has twitchy dodge mechanics, mash to attack,

4. and a combat interface taken straight from Dragon Age (console version)

Discuss.

GeneralShowzer

1. This sucks. Hopefully you can still zoom out quite far.

2. I hate whoever decided this. Radial menu = bad...

3. Not really a bad thing. Or a console thing. Kinda reminds me of the double tap to dodge in UT.

4. Radial menu again? FFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="Guppy507"] With how terrible the first game's gameplay was, I don't think any Witcher fans care.

Guppy507

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] No, I don't understand how the game-play can be a bonus in an RPG.

Demon Souls is one of the best RPG's this gen and it barely even have a story.

Nothing in my post related to story or characters... You still didn't answer my question. It plays the same as Fable III. It might not be super easy or insanely imbalanced, but that's the idea with the combat. Fable III or Demon Souls..

GeneralShowzer

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Im talkign about overall here, story cahracters is what I need in an rpg, the gameplay is a bonus. Understand? Nothing I said in that post was insulting, but if you take it that way then fine go ahead.

The game world looks huge and awesome grpahics, the story and characters look good, the gameplay looks improved, you comaring it to Fable3 is hilarious, that game was garbage.

SAGE_OF_FIRE

Demon Souls is one of the best RPG's this gen and it barely even have a story.

Nothing in my post related to story or characters... You still didn't answer my question. It plays the same as Fable III. It might not be super easy or insanely imbalanced, but that's the idea with the combat. Fable III or Demon Souls..

Demons Souls would loose 99% of its appeal with a keyboard and mouse for me

dat pony tail. My attention keeps going to that xD

[QUOTE="Guppy507"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] Cool opinion? Even if that was, why wouldn't they improve it, instead they changed complete direction towards console street.GeneralShowzer