The Wii has more power than you think

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#101 humber_matus
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gotta love the sheep, the video was trying to prove that the wii has good graphics and all it had to show was text.
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#102 RotaryRX7
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[QUOTE="glez13"]

I think this:

Is superior in some aspects but never the less in the same league overall as these:

*bunch of crappy pics*

Congrats. You have HL2 set on the lowest possible settings. Look at that trailer in the pic. It looks like N64 textures. Obviously crappy settings. Fail.
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#103 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Soulja_West"]The dreamcast has better graphics than the wii.Grinning_Demon

And there ya go people, i gots myself a new sig

Thanks Soulja_Boy ;)

Just for kicks and giggles. :D

Dreamcast:

Wii:

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#104 Grinning_Demon
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[QUOTE="RotaryRX7"][QUOTE="glez13"]

I think this:

Is superior in some aspects but never the less in the same league overall as these:

*bunch of crappy pics*

Congrats. You have HL2 set on the lowest possible settings. Look at that trailer in the pic. It looks like N64 textures. Obviously crappy settings. Fail.

Maybe its HL2 on the XBOX. You know, where it looked like "crap"
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#105 SMR-Venom
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[QUOTE="RotaryRX7"][QUOTE="glez13"]

I think this:

Is superior in some aspects but never the less in the same league overall as these:

*bunch of crappy pics*

Congrats. You have HL2 set on the lowest possible settings. Look at that trailer in the pic. It looks like N64 textures. Obviously crappy settings. Fail.

The PC version of Half Life 2 was much better than the Xbox version anyway so it is not a fair comparison to start off with.
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#106 SMR-Venom
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[QUOTE="Grinning_Demon"]

[QUOTE="Soulja_West"]The dreamcast has better graphics than the wii.Stevo_the_gamer

And there ya go people, i gots myself a new sig

Thanks Soulja_Boy ;)

Just for kicks and giggles. :D

Dreamcast:

Wii:

Thanks for proving his point. lol...
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#107 glez13
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[QUOTE="glez13"]

I think this:

Is superior in some aspects but never the less in the same league overall as these:

*bunch of crappy pics*RotaryRX7

Congrats. You have HL2 set on the lowest possible settings. Look at that trailer in the pic. It looks like N64 textures. Obviously crappy settings. Fail.

LOL those pics are all XBOX.

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#108 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Grinning_Demon"]

And there ya go people, i gots myself a new sig

Thanks Soulja_Boy ;)

SMR-Venom

Just for kicks and giggles. :D

Dreamcast:

Wii:

Thanks for proving his point. lol...

The Dreamcast as equal power to the Wii haha.
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#109 Great_Ragnarok
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[QUOTE="Grinning_Demon"][QUOTE="RotaryRX7"][QUOTE="glez13"]

I think this:

Is superior in some aspects but never the less in the same league overall as these:

*bunch of crappy pics*

Congrats. You have HL2 set on the lowest possible settings. Look at that trailer in the pic. It looks like N64 textures. Obviously crappy settings. Fail.

Maybe its HL2 on the XBOX. You know, where it looked like "crap"

erm HL 2 didn't come to xbox... but anyway to answer the topic. NO the wii has just as much as I thought it did. purely in terms of hardware the WIi out classes xbox. but in terms of the games not quite. I mean purely from a hardware point PC out smokes all consoles combined! but the difference in software is still significant but doesn't completely out class consoles. ok Im not sure about that one....
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#110 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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erm HL 2 didn't come to xbox... Great_Ragnarok
Yes, it did.

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/halflife2/index.html

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#111 Grinning_Demon
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[QUOTE="Grinning_Demon"][QUOTE="RotaryRX7"] Congrats. You have HL2 set on the lowest possible settings. Look at that trailer in the pic. It looks like N64 textures. Obviously crappy settings. Fail.Great_Ragnarok
Maybe its HL2 on the XBOX. You know, where it looked like "crap"

erm HL 2 didn't come to xbox...

It didnt??

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0000A1OS2.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

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#112 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="Grinning_Demon"][QUOTE="RotaryRX7"] Congrats. You have HL2 set on the lowest possible settings. Look at that trailer in the pic. It looks like N64 textures. Obviously crappy settings. Fail.Great_Ragnarok
Maybe its HL2 on the XBOX. You know, where it looked like "crap"

erm HL 2 didn't come to xbox... but anyway to answer the topic. NO the wii has just as much as I thought it did. purely in terms of hardware the WIi out classes xbox. but in terms of the games not quite. I mean purely from a hardware point PC out smokes all consoles combined! but the difference in software is still significant but doesn't completely out class consoles. ok Im not sure about that one....

Yes it did come to xbox, please don't post until you get your facts straight.


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#113 SMR-Venom
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[QUOTE="Great_Ragnarok"][QUOTE="Grinning_Demon"] Maybe its HL2 on the XBOX. You know, where it looked like "crap" Grinning_Demon

erm HL 2 didn't come to xbox...

It didnt??

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0000A1OS2.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Gordon reminds me of Dr. House.

On topic, the Xbox version of HL2 looked like arse compared to PC.

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#114 ChrisSpartan117
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When you consider that Call of Duty 2, a game that is pushing for being four years old, looks and acts(see constant framerate of 60 despite great graphics) better than any Wii game out there, that's sad.

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#115 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="Grinning_Demon"]

[QUOTE="Great_Ragnarok"] erm HL 2 didn't come to xbox... SMR-Venom

It didnt??

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0000A1OS2.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Gordon reminds me of Dr. House.

Off topc???, anyways the wii has some of the worst graphics out there and the worst games. So the wii really has no power.
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#116 thelastguy
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gotta love the sheep, the video was trying to prove that the wii has good graphics and all it had to show was text. humber_matus

I was thinking the same thing :lol:

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#117 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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When you consider that Call of Duty 2, a game that is pushing for being four years old, looks and acts(see constant framerate of 60 despite great graphics) better than any Wii game out there, that's sad.

ChrisSpartan117

But Call of Duty 2 is still pretty good looking. :?

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#118 All_that_is_Man
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Madworld, a Wii exclusive doesn't even run at 480p its runs at 480i >.>
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#119 Grinning_Demon
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Just for kicks and giggles. :DStevo_the_gamer

Halo 2

Metroid Prime 3

http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/814/814436/metroid-prime-3-corruption-20070822001113108.jpg

http://metroidrecon.planets.gamespy.com/mprime3/screenshots/mprime3_17.jpg

LULZ!! ;)

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#120 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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LULZ!! ;)Grinning_Demon
:o :P Compare that to Chaos Theory, or Riddick. ;) Halo 2 was rushed; therefore it's graphics went from fantastic for the Xbox to poop at the end.
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#121 ChrisSpartan117
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[QUOTE="ChrisSpartan117"]

When you consider that Call of Duty 2, a game that is pushing for being four years old, looks and acts(see constant framerate of 60 despite great graphics) better than any Wii game out there, that's sad.

Stevo_the_gamer

But Call of Duty 2 is still pretty good looking. :?

I know, but it was a 360 LAUNCH game, and the Wii has been out for a little over two years and nothing has come close to COD 2.

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#122 SMR-Venom
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[QUOTE="Grinning_Demon"]LULZ!! ;)Stevo_the_gamer
:o :P Compare that to Chaos Theory, or Riddick. ;) Halo 2 was rushed; therefore it's graphics went from fantastic for the Xbox to poop at the end.

Chaos Theory is great, that will be comparable. Riddick, not so much, even though the game was good.
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#123 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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I know, but it was a 360 LAUNCH game, and the Wii has been out for a little over two years and nothing has come close to COD 2.

ChrisSpartan117
I just think it's quite "evil" to compare impressive Xbox 360 games to Wii games, no matter if it's a launch title. :P
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#124 Sully28
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I dont care how much power it has that we dont now about, it still has terrible games, that look terrible and play terrible. There are a few great games that make the exception but not enough do so. As a ps3 fan i laughed when people gave the whol PS3 is more powerful! just wait! BS because its stupid, i wont believe it untill i see results.
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#125 glez13
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Just for kicks and giggles. :DGrinning_Demon

Halo 2

Metroid Prime 3

LULZ!! ;)

Fixed.

No more bullshots. The Wii is better, but lol not by much compared to an XBOX game. It has some cool shaders and lighting effects but overall I would say they are in the same league.

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#126 Martin_G_N
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The article was interresting, but not the video. The gamecube was a powerfull little box, and the Wii is more powerfull than it. I think there is alot of truth about the game engines from the PS2 used on the Wii to save a buck. But Nintendo was stupid to not add 720p support. If they had done that, maybe developers would have cared more about the details in graphics.
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#128 Great_Ragnarok
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[QUOTE="Grinning_Demon"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Just for kicks and giggles. :Dglez13

Halo 2

Metroid Prime 3

LULZ!! ;)

Fixed.

No more bullshots. The Wii is better, but lol not by much compared to an XBOX game. It has some cool shaders and lighting effects but overall I would say they are in the same league.

oh nuts. I thought the previous images were bull but didn't want accuse without proof. nice correction.lol.
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#129 Grinning_Demon
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No more bullshots. The Wii is better, but lol not by much compared to an XBOX game. It has some cool shaders and lighting effects but overall I would say they are in the same league.

glez13

lol they werent bullshots. There's not ONE single bullshot of Metroid Prime 3 out there.

The screens i posted are actually direct feed screenshots ripped directly by the IGN team

oh nuts. I thought the previous images were bull but didn't want accuse without proof. nice correction.lol.Great_Ragnarok

They werent bullshots.

Good for you that you didnt acuse me then ;)

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#131 Soulja_West
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[QUOTE="Soulja_West"]The dreamcast has better graphics than the wii.Grinning_Demon

And there ya go people, i gots myself a new sig

Thanks Soulja_Boy ;)

And you putting what I wrote in your sig is suppose to....

P.S thats soulja west not soulja boy. Get it right.

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#134 PSdual_wielder
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Comparing the wii to last gen consoles, sad...
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#135 Grinning_Demon
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Sounds pretty childish to me.

Soulja_West

Its apropriate to my new sig then ;)

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#136 Soulja_West
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[QUOTE="Grinning_Demon"][QUOTE="Soulja_West"]

Sounds pretty childish to me.

Its apropriate to my new sig then ;)

No not really.
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#137 mixmax5
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This is a stupid way to prove a point.
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#138 Pices
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For God's sake....WE ALL KNOW that the Wii is weaker than the ps3/360 and that the ps3/360 has better graphics. We're just clarifying that the Wii is strong IN ITS OWN WAY, can produce great graphics and is stronger than all last gen consoles. Period.
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#139 millerlight89
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For God's sake....WE ALL KNOW that the Wii is weaker than the ps3/360 and that the ps3/360 has better graphics. We're just clarifying that the Wii is strong IN ITS OWN WAY, can produce great graphics and is stronger than all last gen consoles. Period.Pices
What way is that?
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[QUOTE="glez13"]No more bullshots. The Wii is better, but lol not by much compared to an XBOX game. It has some cool shaders and lighting effects but overall I would say they are in the same league.

Grinning_Demon

lol they werent bullshots. There's not ONE single bullshot of Metroid Prime 3 out there.

The screens i posted are actually direct feed screenshots ripped directly by the IGN team

oh nuts. I thought the previous images were bull but didn't want accuse without proof. nice correction.lol.Great_Ragnarok

They werent bullshots.

Good for you that you didnt acuse me then ;)

hmmm but the pics you posted don't have any AA problems while the pics glez13 put have AA problems. this is contradictory especially since you claim there are no bullshots of MP3....
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Well what I don't get is if gamecube could output REmake why cant other devs do something like that. It shows that the wii Can be powerful though not as powerfulAnimal-Mother

Pre-rendered stationary CG backgrounds free up a lot of hardware resources for other things.

The Wii is just not up to modern gaming hardware standards. There is no way around it. Chop Till You Drop and Dead Rising 2 is proof enough. First the excuse for multiplatform games like Devil May Cry 4 and Resident Evil 5 was "they were in production before the Wii even came out." Now Dead Rising 2 is announced for 360, PS3 and PC, it obviously started production after August 2006 (when the first DR was released, the Wii was released in November 2006, plenty of time to make it work) and the Wii version is nowhere in sight.

I personally think Nintendo should have gone the route of the N64 and Gamecube and given the Wii some oomph in the hardware department. They still maintained profitable margins and pleased gamers incredibly well.

I think this:

*clip*

Is superior in some aspects but never the less in the same league overall as these:

*clip*

glez13

Halo yes. Half Life 2 and Doom 3, no.

The Xbox is comparably as powerful as the Wii. It can hardly run Half Life 2 and Doom 3 at playable framerates and looks like complete ass.
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#142 Tylendal
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^ The poster above makes a good argument.. Specs are nothing more than calculated benchmarks hardware manufacturers think a system's capable of.. It doesn't necessarily mean real world functions. On paper the wii seems more powerfual than the original XB, but Ubisoft stated there are things that the original XB can do, that the wii can't.. That right there tells me that the wii isn't as powerful as some would have you to believe. OhSnapitz
From what I recall, that was Ubisoft talking about shaders. That argument is long dead, Factor 5 started complaining about lack of third party effort in terms of Wii graphical capabilities shortly after Ubisoft made that comment, and they outright denied Ubisoft's claim.
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#143 pcbm
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When Nintendo makes the Wii Zelda game people will shut their mouths.Master-Thief-09
Nuff Said!
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#144 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="Pices"]

People have been underestimating the Wii's hardware limitations, especially fanboys and developers. But after reading this article and watching this video, it certainly proved them wrong.

Article : http://revoeyes.blogspot.com/2007/07/wii-has-more-power-than-you-think.html

Video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8gfDWI42p0&feature=channel_page

PS. It will be much more preferrable if you watch the video first THEN read the article.

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#145 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="glez13"][QUOTE="Grinning_Demon"]

Halo 2

Metroid Prime 3

LULZ!! ;)

Great_Ragnarok

Fixed.

No more bullshots. The Wii is better, but lol not by much compared to an XBOX game. It has some cool shaders and lighting effects but overall I would say they are in the same league.

oh nuts. I thought the previous images were bull but didn't want accuse without proof. nice correction.lol.

Far Cry Instincts (XBOX1)

Doom3 (Xbox1)

Half Life 2(Xbox1)

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#146 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="MasterDefender3"]

Youppi!! 3 times CPU power of last gen XBoX...BIG DEAL!

These are just inacurate calculations but still...

PS2 = 333Mhz Emotion engine / PS3 multi-cores running AT 3,2 Ghz CELL = 9.6 times stronger = Estimation = 10 times stronger X 6 cores = 60 times stronger

Why did i even do this calculation?? Stop wasting my time!! Wii is weak

_rpg_FAN
lol please dont pull my tongue (fingers) i dont want to insult you but PS3 DOES not have 6 cores where did you get that from??? its such lie PS3 have 1 core with 6-7 threads if im not mistaken

CELL has 1 PPE (with 2 threads) and 7 SPEs.
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#147 cheese7monkey
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rebel strike:

.

this is waht factor 5 were talking about, this was a gamecube game

and it looks a helluva lot better than i think every wii game

it uses normal mapping, real time reflections, real time shadows (and self shadows), upwards of 100 enemies on screen at once with individual ai and lighting among other effects including very good bloom

.

the wii is well known to be more than twice as powerful as the wii (it's actually about 10 times as powerful i think) so imagine what factor5 would be able to produce on wii

also, remember, this game supported split screen co-op,

food for thought

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#148 50u1r34v3r
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Grinning_Demon"]LULZ!! ;)SMR-Venom
:o :P Compare that to Chaos Theory, or Riddick. ;) Halo 2 was rushed; therefore it's graphics went from fantastic for the Xbox to poop at the end.

Chaos Theory is great, that will be comparable. Riddick, not so much, even though the game was good.

Blasphemy, Riddick was beautiful.:evil:

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#149 obamanian
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[QUOTE="obamanian"]Frankly i would take the upcoming XBLA 2D RPG visuals over any Wii game visuals, simply because of the promised stunning 2D art AND the full 720p HD resolution that art will come inAnimal-Mother
Ya we know you'd take any RPG over ANYTHING. By the way, Flower, Madworld, and Echochrome are going to be the most "arty" games this generation

That new XBLA 2D RPG promises the best art in a game yet, and some huge variety too, unlike flower that you can't really call a full game

It does look great though indeed, but it gets old fast, the RPG wont

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#150 ChrisSpartan117
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[QUOTE="Master-Thief-09"]When Nintendo makes the Wii Zelda game people will shut their mouths.pcbm
Nuff Said!

Unless the next Zelda games turns out to be a Zelda version of Wii Play. I'm not joking when I say they're already done that with Metroid Prime.