The PS3 came out a year after 360 and doesnt have better graphics

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#1 Kaszilla
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its pretty sad actually, reminds me of the ps2 and the dreamcast that had the same graphics even though the dreamcast launched in 1998. the gamecube and xbox destroyed the ps2 and they only came out a year after the ps2. the ps3 should alot better graphically to the 360 but it isnt.

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#2 nurnberg
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It's hard to have better graphics when 99% of the game are developped for the 360 then ported to the PS3 with no change at all.

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#3 Nonstop-Madness
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The PS3 was delayed a full year because they wouldn't be able to keep up with supplying Blu-Ray drives. The system was already complete when the 360 came out.
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#4 freedomfreak
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Yes,very sad.

I'm losing sleep over it.

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#5 madsnakehhh
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Why is sad?

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#6 Kaszilla
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It's hard to have better graphics when 99% of the game are developped for the 360 then ported to the PS3 with no change at all.

nurnberg
If the ps3 was really more powerful than the 360, developers would add more to the game to take advantage of the ps3's capabilities, like last gen with the ps2 and xbox.
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#7 Nengo_Flow
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The PS3 wasnt in developement a year extra, it was on hold for a bit. The PS3 and 360 were to come out at the same time
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#8 TheGrudge13
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The PS3 was delayed a full year because they wouldn't be able to keep up with supplying Blu-Ray drives. The system was already complete when the 360 came out. Nonstop-Madness
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#9 super600  Moderator
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It wouldn't matter anyway.The difference in terms of tech specs wouldn't be massive.

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360 has no fps as polished as killzone3.

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You're thinking of this in a schoolyard way. Might as well talking about Blast Processing.
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It's hard to have better graphics when 99% of the game are developped for the 360 then ported to the PS3 with no change at all.

nurnberg
thats just plain wrong, a lot of multiplats that where coded from the ground up on both consoles perform marginally better on the 360, crysis 2 runs in a higher resolution on the 360, RDR is HD on the 360, sub HD on the ps3 and don't get me started on ghostbusters, Ps3 was the lead platform yet it looked and performed noticeably better on the 360. That being said the TC is full of crap, uncharted 3 is arguably the best looking game on consoles, both are just as competent as each other but the Ps3 has a marginal edge in the graphics department.
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#13 ronvalencia
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its pretty sad actually, reminds me of the ps2 and the dreamcast that had the same graphics even though the dreamcast launched in 1998. the gamecube and xbox destroyed the ps2 and they only came out a year after the ps2. the ps3 should alot better graphically to the 360 but it isnt.

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The "power of CELL" is being use to fix the aging Geforce 7 type GPU in PS3 i.e. RSX.
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#14 nameless12345
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Well yea, it's based on NES tech after all:

:D

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I'm gonna go slit my wrists, brb.

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[QUOTE="nurnberg"]

It's hard to have better graphics when 99% of the game are developped for the 360 then ported to the PS3 with no change at all.

delta3074

thats just plain wrong, a lot of multiplats that where coded from the ground up on both consoles perform marginally better on the 360, crysis 2 runs in a higher resolution on the 360, RDR is HD on the 360, sub HD on the ps3 and don't get me started on ghostbusters, Ps3 was the lead platform yet it looked and performed noticeably better on the 360. That being said the TC is full of crap, uncharted 3 is arguably the best looking game on consoles, both are just as competent as each other but the Ps3 has a marginal edge in the graphics department.

What? Seriously tell us why you figure that the PS3 has a marginal edge graphically over the 360 because I'm so fuking curious to how this could possibly be when the PS3 has half the usable RAM that the 360 does and an inferior by far GPU? Wait! let me guess.. the Cell seems to magically overcome the lack of RAM and the need of a GPU? Hell.. why did Sony even bother with the RSX if the Cell can work so much fuking blackmagic? Dude you need to get off Sonys nutsack and come back to reality this aint 2007 anymore.

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#17 meetroid8
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Why is sad?

madsnakehhh
Because that extra year of development time could have been used to improve the hardware.
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#18 _Cadbury_
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These threads about graphics are getting boooriiing. Come up with something new
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#19 tjricardo089
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Yes,very sad.

I'm losing sleep over it.

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lets start trolling...........

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#21 rasengan2552
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Why is sad?

meetroid8
Because that extra year of development time could have been used to improve the hardware.

improve the hardware in only a year ? wow you must be really dumb ...
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#22 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="nurnberg"]

It's hard to have better graphics when 99% of the game are developped for the 360 then ported to the PS3 with no change at all.

slim70

thats just plain wrong, a lot of multiplats that where coded from the ground up on both consoles perform marginally better on the 360, crysis 2 runs in a higher resolution on the 360, RDR is HD on the 360, sub HD on the ps3 and don't get me started on ghostbusters, Ps3 was the lead platform yet it looked and performed noticeably better on the 360. That being said the TC is full of crap, uncharted 3 is arguably the best looking game on consoles, both are just as competent as each other but the Ps3 has a marginal edge in the graphics department.

What? Seriously tell us why you figure that the PS3 has a marginal edge graphically over the 360 because I'm so fuking curious to how this could possibly be when the PS3 has half the usable RAM that the 360 does and an inferior by far GPU? Wait! let me guess.. the Cell seems to magically overcome the lack of RAM and the need of a GPU? Hell.. why did Sony even bother with the RSX if the Cell can work so much fuking blackmagic? Dude you need to get off Sonys nutsack and come back to reality this aint 2007 anymore.

the Ps3 has has more than half the useable RAM for starters, it has 512MB of RAM the same as the 360, just split into two different pools and what the RSX cannot do it can offload onto the Cell CPU which uses it's own pool of RAM which avoids the bottleneck that is created when the GPU accesses the Cells RAM pool, th e 360 only has an extra 18 MB of useable memory becsuase it has a lower OS footprint, the 360 is 32MB the Ps3 is 50MB, as of now UC3 is marginally better looking than anything on the 360 hence, it can do marginally better graphics, the fact that you claimed the Ps3 only has half the amount of useable RAM just confirms that you have no clue about how these consoles actually work.
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#23 crimsonman1245
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Microsoft is 10x richer than Sony and their console doesnt have better graphics than Sony, how sad is that?

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#25 zarshack
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Why is sad?

meetroid8

Because that extra year of development time could have been used to improve the hardware.

This isnt a PC we are talking about, you cant just slap in a better GPU and some extra RAM like that.

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#26 meetroid8
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[QUOTE="meetroid8"][QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Why is sad?

rasengan2552
Because that extra year of development time could have been used to improve the hardware.

improve the hardware in only a year ? wow you must be really dumb ...

Please elaborate. How many years does it take to marginally improve the hard ware then? 5? 10?
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#27 delta3074
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[QUOTE="Kaszilla"]

its pretty sad actually, reminds me of the ps2 and the dreamcast that had the same graphics even though the dreamcast launched in 1998. the gamecube and xbox destroyed the ps2 and they only came out a year after the ps2. the ps3 should alot better graphically to the 360 but it isnt.

Headpopper333

Wow, what to even say besides kill yourself with a jagged piece of broken glass. MGS4 came out in 08 moron, 360 still hasn't even matched that. Another turd just like tikeio.

there are plent of games on 360 that look better than MGs4 mate, multiplats and exclusives, MGS 4 is sub HD for starters.
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#28 zarshack
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[QUOTE="rasengan2552"][QUOTE="meetroid8"] Because that extra year of development time could have been used to improve the hardware. meetroid8
improve the hardware in only a year ? wow you must be really dumb ...

Please elaborate. How many years does it take to marginally improve the hard ware then? 5? 10?

The GPU/CPUs in the consoles are custom built specifically for that system. they would need to completely rebuild a new type of GPU.

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#29 vtoshkatur
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its pretty sad actually, reminds me of the ps2 and the dreamcast that had the same graphics even though the dreamcast launched in 1998. the gamecube and xbox destroyed the ps2 and they only came out a year after the ps2. the ps3 should alot better graphically to the 360 but it isnt.

Kaszilla

Both consoles have identical graphics

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Arguing over 2nd place is fun.

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#31 rasengan2552
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[QUOTE="meetroid8"][QUOTE="rasengan2552"][QUOTE="meetroid8"] Because that extra year of development time could have been used to improve the hardware.

improve the hardware in only a year ? wow you must be really dumb ...

Please elaborate. How many years does it take to marginally improve the hard ware then? 5? 10?

how about a new dev kit that would have to be more powerful than the 360's ... they don't have time for trial and error.
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#32 PAL360
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Bluray player was the reason.

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[QUOTE="slim70"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]thats just plain wrong, a lot of multiplats that where coded from the ground up on both consoles perform marginally better on the 360, crysis 2 runs in a higher resolution on the 360, RDR is HD on the 360, sub HD on the ps3 and don't get me started on ghostbusters, Ps3 was the lead platform yet it looked and performed noticeably better on the 360. That being said the TC is full of crap, uncharted 3 is arguably the best looking game on consoles, both are just as competent as each other but the Ps3 has a marginal edge in the graphics department.delta3074

What? Seriously tell us why you figure that the PS3 has a marginal edge graphically over the 360 because I'm so fuking curious to how this could possibly be when the PS3 has half the usable RAM that the 360 does and an inferior by far GPU? Wait! let me guess.. the Cell seems to magically overcome the lack of RAM and the need of a GPU? Hell.. why did Sony even bother with the RSX if the Cell can work so much fuking blackmagic? Dude you need to get off Sonys nutsack and come back to reality this aint 2007 anymore.

the Ps3 has has more than half the useable RAM for starters, it has 512MB of RAM the same as the 360, just split into two different pools and what the RSX cannot do it can offload onto the Cell CPU which uses it's own pool of RAM which avoids the bottleneck that is created when the GPU accesses the Cells RAM pool, th e 360 only has an extra 18 MB of useable memory becsuase it has a lower OS footprint, the 360 is 32MB the Ps3 is 50MB, as of now UC3 is marginally better looking than anything on the 360 hence, it can do marginally better graphics, the fact that you claimed the Ps3 only has half the amount of useable RAM just confirms that you have no clue about how these consoles actually work.

Ahh.. so you know more than John Carmack then I guess eh? So what games have you developed lately for the 360 and PS3? UC3 being marginally better than anything on the 360 is subjective and using that as a measuring stick to compare the capabilities of the two consoles makes you look like an idiot! Especially since the game-play graphics are so inconsistant and the multi-player looks like fuking ass! So whats marginally better about UC3 than any other console game exactly? Do you have any irrefutable evidence to support this claim? I bet any minuscule reasons that you magically come up with can be argued against by anyone and their pet dog. :roll:

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ROFL @ the silly console peasants arguing over which has the best graphics.

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ROFL @ the silly console peasants arguing over which has the best graphics.

vtoshkatur

You come in here laughing at us console users when your just as pathetic! Look around man everyones arguing about video games like little fuking kids. Nobody that posts in these forums are better than anyone else so shut the fuk up Mr. Elitist and go play your fuking PC games.

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#37 SolidTy
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its pretty sad actually, reminds me of the ps2 and the dreamcast that had the same graphics even though the dreamcast launched in 1998. the gamecube and xbox destroyed the ps2 and they only came out a year after the ps2. the ps3 should alot better graphically to the 360 but it isnt.

Kaszilla

ps2 vs. dc? at first yes, but tha ps2 had better grafixs after a year (2001), like mgs2, gt3, gta3, dmc, baldur's gate da, ffx, etc.

also, you don't have a 360 or ps3 i'm guessing, like 50% of the posters making these threads.

if you like graphics, you should look into a Pc and graphics cards, and just do tech demos all day/night, maybe even play a pc game with a decent pc and card, and then never talk of this again.

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Uncharted 3 has other things to say.

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its pretty sad actually, reminds me of the ps2 and the dreamcast that had the same graphics even though the dreamcast launched in 1998. the gamecube and xbox destroyed the ps2 and they only came out a year after the ps2. the ps3 should alot better graphically to the 360 but it isnt.

Kaszilla

you are pretty sad fanboy talk about graphics get a PC if you care so much about graphics. i see lots of ps3 hate is it becouse you x360 broke or you have no games to play? ps3 is the better system kid get over it

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If the ps3 was really more powerful than the 360, developers would add more to the game to take advantage of the ps3's capabilities, like last gen with the ps2 and xbox.Kaszilla

Is that a joke? Most Xbox (and GCN) multi-plats were "gimped" because the PS2 was the lead platform.

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#41 Tikeio
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[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

ROFL @ the silly console peasants arguing over which has the best graphics.

slim70

You come in here laughing at us console users when your just as pathetic! Look around man everyones arguing about video games like little fuking kids. Nobody that posts in these forums are better than anyone else so shut the fuk up Mr. Elitist and go play your fuking PC games.

Lawl judging by his posts in other topics, he's anything but an elitist.

He just set up a trap, and you fell for it.

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#43 DarthJohnova
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It's so sad that I'm crying in my teary pool of having a blu-ray player and free online.

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#44 vtoshkatur
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[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

ROFL @ the silly console peasants arguing over which has the best graphics.

slim70

You come in here laughing at us console users when your just as pathetic! Look around man everyones arguing about video games like little fuking kids. Nobody that posts in these forums are better than anyone else so shut the fuk up Mr. Elitist and go play your fuking PC games.

I will go play my "****ing" PC games and enjoy the hell out of them =)

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#45 vtoshkatur
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[QUOTE="slim70"]

[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

ROFL @ the silly console peasants arguing over which has the best graphics.

Tikeio

You come in here laughing at us console users when your just as pathetic! Look around man everyones arguing about video games like little fuking kids. Nobody that posts in these forums are better than anyone else so shut the fuk up Mr. Elitist and go play your fuking PC games.

Lawl judging by his posts in other topics, he's anything but an elitist.

He just set up a trap, and you fell for it.


Exactly, I enjoy gaming across all platforms, I just sometimes feel like messing with people. I just prefer PC. Consoles are still pretty alright for what they are.

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#46 StrongDeadlift
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The PS3 was delayed a full year because they wouldn't be able to keep up with supplying Blu-Ray drives. The system was already complete when the 360 came out. Nonstop-Madness
Wrong. The PS3 was origionally intended to launch in holiday of 2007, but since the 360 rushed to the market, Sony didnt want them to get a 2 year lead. Sony also planned on having 2 cell processors and 1gb of ram in the system at launch (along with all that other stuff) but downgraded it due to costs. They also had to wait for the licensing agreements and NTSC/PAL standards for Blu Ray to be made before it could be released.
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#47 JakeMeltzer
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I think games like Little Big Planet, Killzone, Uncharted, & Motorstorm are more technically stunning than anything on 360.

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#48 vtoshkatur
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I think games like Little Big Planet, Killzone, Uncharted, & Motorstorm are more technically stunning than anything on 360.

JakeMeltzer

Motorstorm 1?????? That game looks terribad

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#49 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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The PS3 was delayed a full year because they wouldn't be able to keep up with supplying Blu-Ray drives. The system was already complete when the 360 came out. Nonstop-Madness

That is often forgotten. Let's also not forget that the 360 was rushed to market, had a HUGE failure rate, and didn't even ship with HDMI.

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#50 ShadowMoses900
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No one is sad except you TC because your a bitter and lonely fanboy. I'm sure when your xbox RROD again you'll feel much better. And show me one EXCLUSIVE game on Xbox that looks as good as Uncharted or Killzone ect...? Ya that's what I thought....