So if console games are 1080p/high res textures, whats the point of PC?

Assuming a non 1440 or 4k display, whats the benefit to be had for a triple SLI titan rig vs a next gen console? Typically this gen the PC advantage was 1080p and high res textures. Once consoles are running 1080p and high res textures, whats the benefit to PC? more particle effects? better lighting?

will it actually make a noticeable difference?

The pc is still needed for work, so I guess it's not useless.

It's like 720 in 2005. PCs will get higher res and better textures again. Even next-en games are plagued from low-res textures in some places and in other their quality could still be improved.

Then there's also 3D, occulous rift, multiple or ultra-wise monitors etc.

Assuming a non 1440 or 4k display, whats the benefit to be had for a triple SLI titan rig vs a next gen console? Typically this gen the PC advantage was 1080p and high res textures. Once consoles are running 1080p and high res textures, whats the benefit to PC? more particle effects? better lighting?

 

will it actually make a noticeable difference?

BeardMaster

It's like 720 in 2005. PCs will get higher res and better textures again. Even next-en games are plagued from low-res textures in some places and in other their quality could still be improved.

Then there's also 3D, occulous rift, multiple or ultra-wise monitors etc.

AdrianWerner

displays seem to have plateaued at 1080p, at least for now. How much higher res can textures realisticallty get before people stop noticing?

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It's like 720 in 2005. PCs will get higher res and better textures again. Even next-en games are plagued from low-res textures in some places and in other their quality could still be improved.

Then there's also 3D, occulous rift, multiple or ultra-wise monitors etc.

BeardMaster

displays seem to have plateaued at 1080p, at least for now. How much higher res can textures realisticallty get before people stop noticing?

1440p+/Ultra Textures, duh.

displays seem to have plateaued at 1080p, at least for now. How much higher res can textures realisticallty get before people stop noticing?

BeardMaster

Plus I expect Occulous Rift to catch up like crazy and next-gen consoles won't have power to handle it properly.

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displays seem to have plateaued at 1080p, at least for now. How much higher res can textures realisticallty get before people stop noticing?

AdrianWerner

Plus I expect Occulous Rift to catch up like crazy and next-gen consoles won't have power to handle it properly.

Who is pushing for higher res displays? the consumers? or the tv manufacturers with slumping sales?

im not convinced there is any real demand for displays beyond 1080.

PC will still be getting the best version of multiplats and more exclusives than any single console.

PC will still be getting the best version of multiplats and more exclusives than any single console.

R4gn4r0k

no doubt, just seems the gap between PC and console is shrinking, and the added hardware advantage of PCs doesnt have much room to expand, or at least not in a manner that will be easily recognizable to gamers.

Stupid troll thread but i'll bite a little.

So take out the graphics and framerate advantages and you have:

1. More games

2. Higher rated games

3. More varied control mechanisms

4. Mods

5. Customisation (tweaking games without modding them, for example I change the rate animations are displayed in Civ5)

6. Steam and other forms of DD make games cheaper

7. No license fees for indie devs to cope with

8. Free to play online

9. Genres of games unavailable to console (in any meaningful form MMO, RTS)

10. Faster loading times (SSD's are super awesome for gaming).

11. You need a decent PC in your life anyway for the many, many tasks it can perform that consoles can't.

Those are a few I can be bothered to think of.

All games on the next gen consoles won't run at 1080P. Some will run below 1080P and maybe as low as 720P.

 

Who is pushing for higher res displays? the consumers? or the tv manufacturers with slumping sales?

 

im not convinced there is any real demand for displays beyond 1080.

BeardMaster

no doubt, just seems the gap between PC and console is shrinking, and the added hardware advantage of PCs doesnt have much room to expand, or at least not in a manner that will be easily recognizable to gamers.

BeardMaster

It has shrunk. I think that is the right way to put it, and that is to be expected when next gen systems are coming out. As the Xbone and PS4 are packing some powerful hardware.

But this gen is just getting started. Console hardware is fixed and PC hardware keeps improving so the gap will get wider and wider. Like it did this gen and any gen.

no doubt, just seems the gap between PC and console is shrinking, and the added hardware advantage of PCs doesnt have much room to expand, or at least not in a manner that will be easily recognizable to gamers.

BeardMaster

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no doubt, just seems the gap between PC and console is shrinking, and the added hardware advantage of PCs doesnt have much room to expand, or at least not in a manner that will be easily recognizable to gamers.

AdrianWerner

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no doubt, just seems the gap between PC and console is shrinking, and the added hardware advantage of PCs doesnt have much room to expand, or at least not in a manner that will be easily recognizable to gamers.

AdrianWerner

"So if console games are 1080p/high res textures, whats the point of PC?"

With the exception of a very miniscule few downlodable sidescrollers on XBLA/psn games, they simply do not exist, and never will. DEAL WITH IT

Well, filthy console peasants will play next games like that 720p -1080p, 30fps, small fov, controller(3-4 years in to the gen many multiplats will look like the pc version on LOW settings, etc)

meanwhile in the last 1-2 years, I already play games like that 2560x1440, 60fps, max settings, large fov, k/m(+ controller), mods, etc

The difference won't be noticeabl within the first few years, but once the consoles start getting older we'll see PC exclusives with photorealistic graphics that won't be possible on the twins. Just a prediction though. PCs will always be a step ahead, but it requires more invvestment early on, so I can understand why most would rather play on consoles in the beginning of each gen.

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PC will still be getting the best version of multiplats and more exclusives than any single console.

BeardMaster

no doubt, just seems the gap between PC and console is shrinking, and the added hardware advantage of PCs doesnt have much room to expand, or at least not in a manner that will be easily recognizable to gamers.

Idiot console gamers said the same thing 2005. And look at the situation now. Please stop being an idiot, and join the rest of us in reality. The SAME thing will happen next gen.

Games on PC will be consistently 60+ FPS vs only some times 60 FPS on consoles and never above that. If you want 60+ or 120 FPS, PC will be your only option. Games will be consistantly 1080p + (1440p, 1600p and later on 4K will become more and more common) on PC, and only some times 1080p on consoles. If you want to do 1080p ALWAYS and if you want to do higher resolution panels or multiple panels, or the rift, PC will be your only option.

On top of all that, PC games will start to feature full, dynamic global illumination, even higher resolution textures and better texture effects. Better shadowing, larger view distances, better fields of view, more AI, more object/3D mesh detail, more particle and physics effects, etc, etc, etc.

It's the same story every new gen.

consolites: "What's the point of a PC now that x gen fo consoles is coming out? Graphcis are awesome!" 

Same consolites 3 years later: "GRAPHICS DON'T MATTER ANYWAY PC ELITISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" 

PC Gamers: HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

Frankly I don't know how a complete market segment could be so idiotic, or clueless. Is it that these are just new console gamers, who weren't around in 2005? and don't even bother to investigate how the last gen turned out vs the PC?

Compared to currently available PC hardware, the new consoles have the weakest launch specs ever....

The "same point" of choosing any other platform. Exclusives, control themes and other personal preferences. What a stupid question, TC :?

There's more to graphics than resolution. 

PC's can also get higher framerates and have much better controls. 

More and better exclusives. Better online, customization, KB/Mouse, larger library, Mods, indie titles, etc etc. Need I go on? ;)

As always, PC will be top.

different games?

well pc does have a lot of exclusives and mods and it does have good sales. People do like the better hardware as wel,l i see it as a bit of a money pit thou. We are in the post pc era and i have very little drive to buy a windows pc in this day and age. But you can still do a lot of other things on a pc you cant do on a console so its a all in one machine.

60 fps vs 30 fps

higher settings vs lower settings

4k monitors are already out while 1440/1600p monitors are not that uncommon nowdays

Mods vs No mods

Certain genres like strategy games consoles dont have

Cheaper games

If i was you a better question would be whats the point of consoles

A crappy looking console games still looks crappy on PC

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PC will still be getting the best version of multiplats and more exclusives than any single console.

BeardMaster

no doubt, just seems the gap between PC and console is shrinking, and the added hardware advantage of PCs doesnt have much room to expand, or at least not in a manner that will be easily recognizable to gamers.

PCs are upgradeable, Consoles aren't.

That's the only point of a PC - you can continually upgrade the system.

Any other questions?

lol consoles having have hard time achiveing 1080p + 60fps.... My PC by doing that for years...k2theswiss

Well what is the point of a console when PC was at 1080p/high res textures?

You can do so much more with a PC.

It's the other way around TC.

r u guys serious? pc is always the pinnacle of tech.

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PC will still be getting the best version of multiplats and more exclusives than any single console.

clyde46

no doubt, just seems the gap between PC and console is shrinking, and the added hardware advantage of PCs doesnt have much room to expand, or at least not in a manner that will be easily recognizable to gamers.

Exactly, this gen hasn't even started and consoles are already behind.  It's going to be embarassing in a couple of years.  PC is really starting to get back into another golden age again.

PC already does everything better and will increase while next gen systems stay the same. Also PC keeps freedom (Mods, where to buy the games, what accessoirs to use etc.)

PC already does everything better and will increase while next gen systems stay the same. Also PC keeps freedom (Mods, where to buy the games, what accessoirs to use etc.)

ArchoNils2