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#51 AAllxxjjnn
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[QUOTE="Ringx55"]MGS4, it actually has a story /thread

That's shoved down your throat in the worst way possible for a video game.
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#52 Riverwolf007
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no idiotic poop jokes in smg so it wins

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#53 pc-ps360
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Think about it SMG2 and MGS4 are the best games this gen.Which one do u think u had the most fun with. Which You think is better they both got 10.0.

louisfoxton

smg2 is the better game since it got a 10 years after mgs4. requierment for a 10 increase in time (according to a gamespot reviewer's commetn on singularity.)

tho it all depends on taste for me mgs seems to be a better game than mario 2, imo u cant even compare the 2 they are worlds apart

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#54 GunSmith1_basic
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SMG2 is the game of the gen. MGS4 is stillso great in every way though. MGS4's story is great, although it could have been told in half the time. That would have been appreciated.

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#56 vguy555
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Super Mario Galaxy 2 is best game this gen

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#57 mariokart64fan
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they are the some of the best games

my list of best games is up to 20 so far this gen w even more runner ups

most are on wii and ps3 s upcoming line up some are from 360s early years,

smg2 mgs 4 gta iv saints row 2 nsmb wii test drive unlimite dead rising condemned pdxbla etc for out already

lookin to be awsome -

dkc4

goldeneye007

driver5 twisted metal gt5 nfs hot pursuit 3 kirby epic yarn metroid other m maxpayne 3 starfox64 3ds etc

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#58 StryderK
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if u playedMGS onPS1 then you have played everyMGS game because there is nothing differentKonami gets away with it because of nostalgiacoltgames

See what I done thar?

/Sarcasm

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#59 GreenGoblin2099
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This is easy... right answer is Peace Walker.

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#60 kontejner44
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To put it simply:

SMG2 will be remembered as one of the greatest games this gen.

MGS4 will be remembered as one of the greatest games of all time.

Master_ShakeXXX

You really think so? lol... No, MGS4 is more realistic than SMG2, history tells us that... surprise, the artistic games age much better than their realistic counterparts.

Uncharted 2 is going to look like crap in 10 years, while stuff like Zelda WW and SMG will age much better.

And that is just graphics, I'm willing to bet that the gameplay is going to age better aswell. Compare it with SMB3 on NES, there are only a few modern 2D platformers that are on par with the controls in that game, most of them are from Nintendo ofc

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#61 louisfoxton
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no idiotic poop jokes in smg so it wins

Riverwolf007

Lol i like that part when he poops on him self and you see the doo doo on hes butt

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#62 Shadow2k6
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

To put it simply:

SMG2 will be remembered as one of the greatest games this gen.

MGS4 will be remembered as one of the greatest games of all time.

kontejner44

You really think so? lol... No, MGS4 is more realistic than SMG2, history tells us that... surprise, the artistic games age much better than their realistic counterparts.

Uncharted 2 is going to look like crap in 10 years, while stuff like Zelda WW and SMG will age much better.

And that is just graphics, I'm willing to bet that the gameplay is going to age better aswell. Compare it with SMB3 on NES, there are only a few modern 2D platformers that are on par with the controls in that game, most of them are from Nintendo ofc

Games are remembered for how great they were in their time. Not how well they aged. OoT aged pretty bad, same with Goldeneye yet people still consider them some of the best games they ever played.

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#63 DarkLink77
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Neither are the best games this gen, imo. But SMG2 having spent time with it. MGS4 has terrible writing. No other game could get away with that.

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#64 Blacklight2
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Hmm it seems like they are gun references I would take the Machine Gun over the Sub Machine Gun.
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[QUOTE="coltgames"]if u played mario on n64 then you have played every mario game because there is nothing different nintendo gets away with it because of nostalgiaAmayaPapaya

I love it when people use this

I didn't care for SM64 or Sunshine. I don't even really care for the 2D Mario games. Yet, apparently the reason I love Super Mario Galaxy 1&2, is because of my nostalgia of the other games :lol:

Dude ratings or not. Mgs4 isn't a jaw dropping experience that shows the farthest we've gotten in terms of technicality in console gaming. Mgs4 was a game that made reviewers ask if they could break the 10 limit. MGS4 to date is still the most polished, detailed, wellcrafted game out there.
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#66 wasted_wisdom
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[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

[QUOTE="coltgames"]if u played mario on n64 then you have played every mario game because there is nothing different nintendo gets away with it because of nostalgiawasted_wisdom

I love it when people use this

I didn't care for SM64 or Sunshine. I don't even really care for the 2D Mario games. Yet, apparently the reason I love Super Mario Galaxy 1&2, is because of my nostalgia of the other games :lol:

Dude ratings or not. Mgs4 isn't a jaw dropping experience that shows the farthest we've gotten in terms of technicality in console gaming. Mgs4 was a game that made reviewers ask if they could break the 10 limit. MGS4 to date is still the most polished, detailed, wellcrafted game out there.

I meant IS.
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#67 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

[QUOTE="coltgames"]if u played mario on n64 then you have played every mario game because there is nothing different nintendo gets away with it because of nostalgiawasted_wisdom

I love it when people use this

I didn't care for SM64 or Sunshine. I don't even really care for the 2D Mario games. Yet, apparently the reason I love Super Mario Galaxy 1&2, is because of my nostalgia of the other games :lol:

Dude ratings or not. Mgs4 isn't a jaw dropping experience that shows the farthest we've gotten in terms of technicality in console gaming. Mgs4 was a game that made reviewers ask if they could break the 10 limit. MGS4 to date is still the most polished, detailed, wellcrafted game out there.

:lol: OMG, that's so funny. You should be on stage, dude. MGS4, the best game ever. HA! Priceless.
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#68 bad_fur_day
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I like it how you convienantly left out GTAIV like it doesn't count or something...

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#69 louisfoxton
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i dont count GTAIV because its on ps3 and xbox360

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#70 bad_fur_day
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i dont count GTAIV because its on ps3 and xbox360

louisfoxton

That doesn't make any sense. :lol: So it doesn't count as one of the best games this gen because... it's on two consoles.

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#71 louisfoxton
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Yep JK but its GTA Doesnt count in this thread because of that

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#72 GunSmith1_basic
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i'm comfortable saying that mgs4>> than GTA4 and if you want some objective basis in reality that isn't just my opinion, how about the fact that MGS4 beat out GTA4 for game of the year
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#73 MetroidPrimePwn
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[QUOTE="Ringx55"]MGS4, it actually has a story /threadAAllxxjjnn
That's shoved down your throat in the worst way possible for a video game.

Indeed.

It's neck and neck with Final Fantasy XIII in the competition for the Oh Christ I Wish I Didn't Have to Deal With This Tripe: Achievement in Storytelling Award this gen.

IMO.

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#74 GunSmith1_basic
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and also that SMG2 >> GTA4 because standards for gaming increase over time (PDZ is proof)
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#75 louisfoxton
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Why are we talking about GTAIV its SMG2 VS MGS4 Nothing else

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#76 GunSmith1_basic
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Why are we talking about GTAIV its SMG2 VS MGS4 Nothing else

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well we figure your criteria is that they are rated 10/10. If not then why those two games???
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#77 bad_fur_day
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Leaving GTA out of a 10/10 discussion is a bit opininated. Why is it left out? Cus you happen to not like it?

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#78 louisfoxton
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I chose SMG2 and MGS4 because i want it to be Sony 10.0 game vs Nintendo 10.0 games

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#79 wasted_wisdom
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and also that SMG2 >> GTA4 because standards for gaming increase over time (PDZ is proof)GunSmith1_basic
Lol funny guy. Iam still waiting for the day you sheep will name a good nintendo game that doesn't involve Mario or Zelda or the other over-milked titles. Oh and MGS4, Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain and Killzone 2 own everything on the Wii. And the fact that you can't disagree without mentioning Mario is sad imo.
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#80 VideoGameGuy
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MGS4 has already been forgotten SMG1&2 are timeless classics.
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[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]and also that SMG2 >> GTA4 because standards for gaming increase over time (PDZ is proof)wasted_wisdom
Lol funny guy. Iam still waiting for the day you sheep will name a good nintendo game that doesn't involve Mario or Zelda or the other over-milked titles. Oh and MGS4, Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain and Killzone 2 own everything on the Wii. And the fact that you can't disagree without mentioning Mario is sad imo.

mad cause Nintendo's "over-milked" franchises kill everything that comes out today? So sad, i know.
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#82 vitalogy23
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smg2. i wanted to hurt myself by the end of act 2 in mgs4. thats how bad the writing, dialogue and voice acting was.

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#83 LegatoSkyheart
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Super Mario Galaxy 2 has more gameplay than Metal Gear Solid 4.

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#84 omarguy01
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IMO MGS4 is not a 10. SMG2 is.

and there you have my $0.02

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#85 mitu123
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MGS4 is more epic.

SMG2 is more fun.

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#86 Thunderdrone
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Like comparing a diamond to a turd

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[QUOTE="wasted_wisdom"][QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]and also that SMG2 >> GTA4 because standards for gaming increase over time (PDZ is proof)VideoGameGuy
Lol funny guy. Iam still waiting for the day you sheep will name a good nintendo game that doesn't involve Mario or Zelda or the other over-milked titles. Oh and MGS4, Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain and Killzone 2 own everything on the Wii. And the fact that you can't disagree without mentioning Mario is sad imo.

mad cause Nintendo's "over-milked" franchises kill everything that comes out today? So sad, i know.

Ok first of all, no it doesn't. Second of all the overmilked franchise is one of the few good games you can name from nintendo. I know. I know. You've got NoMoreHeroes and Metroid(which is the only ame on the ninendo plat I acknowledge). Dude where were you when the ps3 was getting games like MGS4 Uncharted 2 Heavy Rain Killzone 2 Resistance 2 ----Resistance had tons of gameplay and not a good story. That's what you should be comparing your smg to. Heavenly Sword Demons souls Little big planet Modnation Racers Motorstorm Gt5p and Gt5 Warhawk God of War 3. And that doesn't even include multiplats.
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#88 Valiant_Rebel
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For some reason, I feel guilty when comparing these 2 games. It's basically a stealth game versus a platformer game. There's not really much to compare and contrast. The only trait in common is that they received a 10 on Gamespot. Other than that, it is just which game the person enjoyed more, granted they played both to make that decision.

To stay on topic, I guess I would have to go with Super Mario Galaxy 2 because the gameplay lasted much longer than Metal Gear Solid 4. I do not have anything against Metal Gear Solid 4, but to me, the game felt like it was forcing itself on me. I think Metal Gear Solid 4 is alright, but not fantastically superb.

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#89 Sandvichman
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Like comparing a diamond to a turd

Thunderdrone
It's not nice to say that SMG2 is a turd.
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#90 louisfoxton
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i Know right Mario is one of the most famous person alive lol

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#91 Hexagon_777
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This is what I take from this thread: mind = blown, SMG2 and MGS4 both scored a 10/10 and share the same letters (and have a number) in their acronyms.

trugs26
I catch your drift. In order to get a 10 on GameSpot, the title of a game must consist of the letters G, M, and S when put into an acronym and it must also have a number after said acronym. Brilliant.
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#92 louisfoxton
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YeP

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#93 ianuilliam
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Think about it SMG2 and MGS4 are the best games this gen.Which one do u think u had the most fun with. Which You think is better they both got 10.0.

louisfoxton

G=G

M=M

S=S

4>2

SMG and MGS balance each other out, but MGS4 beats SMG2 by a factor of 2.

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#94 antifanboyftw
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Neither are the best games this gen, imo. But SMG2 having spent time with it. MGS4 has terrible writing. No other game could get away with that.

DarkLink77
mario games don't even have writing. how many games can get away with that?
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#95 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Neither are the best games this gen, imo. But SMG2 having spent time with it. MGS4 has terrible writing. No other game could get away with that.

antifanboyftw
mario games don't even have writing. how many games can get away with that?

Games that rely solely on their gameplay. MGS made a name for itself based on its story, which doesn't make sense, considering that it is incredibly poorly written.
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#96 InfinityMugen
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I thought both were extremely overrated and as games I didn't enjoy them as much. They both had a been there done that feeling. The improvment in productions values was only a small bonus.

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#98 antifanboyftw
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="antifanboyftw"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Neither are the best games this gen, imo. But SMG2 having spent time with it. MGS4 has terrible writing. No other game could get away with that.

mario games don't even have writing. how many games can get away with that?

Games that rely solely on their gameplay. MGS made a name for itself based on its story, which doesn't make sense, considering that it is incredibly poorly written.

to you it is. its actually not that bad, just a bit confusing if you don't play them all (which you should be a guy to understand a sequel in a story driven series). mario has already apparently gotten boring in the mushroom kingdom so they moved him. he was ok (but i guess im one of the few) who liked him in sunshine, and then them moved into spac.e because it was such a big hit, they did it again. what now can they do? galaxy 3? where could they move it to top the location now?
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#99 coltgames
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smg2 did not deserve a 10 it just didnt . MGS4 was a game made for the fans if u didnt understand the story go play 1 thru 3 it deserved its 10 for great stealth action gameplay and story. SMG2 is literally the same thing still fun but at the most 9.5 IMO
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#100 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="antifanboyftw"] mario games don't even have writing. how many games can get away with that?antifanboyftw
Games that rely solely on their gameplay. MGS made a name for itself based on its story, which doesn't make sense, considering that it is incredibly poorly written.

to you it is. its actually not that bad, just a bit confusing if you don't play them all (which you should be a guy to understand a sequel in a story driven series). mario has already apparently gotten boring in the mushroom kingdom so they moved him. he was ok (but i guess im one of the few) who liked him in sunshine, and then them moved into spac.e because it was such a big hit, they did it again. what now can they do? galaxy 3? where could they move it to top the location now?

The story isn't confusing, it's just poorly written. Maybe they could just make Mario travel through time. I'm sure Nintendo will deliver.