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#1  Edited By the_master_race
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Sounds I was late to the party again , well congratulation to all my manticore friends @BassMan and @davillain- , I hope you can play your favorite games on your favorite platform. But let's discuss what this could mean to Sony, developers and gamers

PC gamer

If Horizon hits PC, it could signal a shift from a business that depends wholly on hardware to one that depends on the success of the ecosystem it builds between multiple platforms and the software it brings to life. The future of Sony and Microsoft's game businesses may rely on their ability to grab PC gamers as customers. Hardware agnosticism could actually be the new wave, especially if subscription and streaming services gain any ground.

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Fundamental industry changes aside, Sony wouldn't dare perforate the membrane between PS4 and PC just for Horizon Zero Dawn, alerting every Extreme PC Hobbyist to the slightest possibility that the impossible just became possible—would it? Hey, Nintendo: Mario on PC when?

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Sony has been public about its consideration for releasing PS4 exclusives on PC in the future, with SIE Worldwide Studios chairman Shawn Layden admitting the company's previously strict stance about keeping exclusives exclusive might be changing in an interview last year.

"We must support the PlayStation platform -- that is nonnegotiable," Layden said. "That said, you will see in the future some titles coming out of my collection of studios which may need to lean into a wider installed base."

Forbes - Why ‘Horizon Zero Dawn’ Coming To PC Is Such Great News For Gamers And For Sony

Sony releasing one of its PlayStation 4 exclusives developed by a Sony-owned studio on PC would be a groundbreaking decision, and a very smart one—though I have one pretty big caveat which I’ll get to shortly. Making games like Horizon Zero Dawn available on PC will only increase sales and introduce more gamers to Sony’s games. That’s undeniably a good thing for gamers and for Sony alike

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I guess all that port begging is paying off for the laster race lol.

What's even funnier is the OP calls himself the master race and uses a pic from a PS4 game.

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#3  Edited By Fedor
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It's objectively a good thing for business and consumers. Sucks for cows though.

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#4 with_teeth26
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It'll be an interesting gen to be sure, though as long as Sony's hardware sales remain as strong as they are I can't see it becoming the norm as much as I wish it would.

As an interesting proxy, at one time in history, different major movie companies owned different movie theatres that only showed movies made by that company. So people had to go to different places to see different movies. That obviously didn't last... so it doesn't shock me the gaming industry is slowing following a similar path that is more consumer friendly.

sales speak louder than fanboys so if there is more money to be made by releasing games on multiple platorms that is what will happen.

they could be testing the waters with this

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PC is that guy everybody wants at the party because he brings the goods.

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@br0kenrabbit said:

PC is that guy everybody wants at the party because he brings the goods.

Are you saying PC users are drug dealers lol.

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@i_p_daily said:
@br0kenrabbit said:

PC is that guy everybody wants at the party because he brings the goods.

Are you saying PC users are drug dealers lol.

Nah, just bringing the booze and not checking I.D.

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Also The List of Some of Console Exclusives That Are Meant To Be Played on PC

Demon's Souls - 2009

The Last of Us - 2013

Bayonetta 2 - 2014

Bloodborne - 2015

The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - 2017

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - 2017

Super Mario Odyssey -2017

Marvel's Spider-Man - 2018

God of War - 2018

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#9 lamprey263
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MS does this, gaming world like "WTF they thinking", Sony does it, Forbes busts a nut like Sony is breaking new ground - if you're MS right now, you gotta feel like...

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PCgamer in literal cancer to browse on mobile.

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#11  Edited By madrocketeer
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Yeah, as I've been saying for months, the hardware-independent "Software First" approach just makes business sense in light of the drastic changes in the console market over the last 7 years. Microsoft saw that early and jumped in first, and salvaged their generation with it. The latest news show that while Sony are not yet ready to commit with the same ambition, they are certainly thinking about it. Don't be surprised if they eventually reach the same conclusion.

But of course, this is System Wars. Stuck in analogue thinking in a digital world.

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@i_p_daily said:

I guess all that port begging is paying off for the laster race lol.

What's even funnier is the OP calls himself the master race and uses a pic from a PS4 game.

Stop being a fanboy

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#13  Edited By BassMan
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Sony games on PC fo shizzle!
Sony games on PC fo shizzle!

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PC fanboys are more desperate then I ever thought for quality games.

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@the_master_race said:

Also The List of Some of Console Exclusives That Are Meant To Be Played on PC

Demon's Souls - 2009

The Last of Us - 2013

Bayonetta 2 - 2014

Bloodborne - 2015

The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - 2017

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - 2017

Super Mario Odyssey -2017

Marvel's Spider-Man - 2018

God of War - 2018

Yes plz to those. Though I'd never ask for another console game on PC again if I just got Ninja Gaiden Black and Ninja Gaiden II.

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But yeah on topic, can't see this as a bad thing for anybody aside from corporate slave fanboys, and **** what they think.

Sony would likely lose a negligible amount of hardware sales compared to what they'd rake in with the software sales. Most console players couldn't give a shit about PC, not like they're going to switch over in droves. Likewise, most PC gamers would rather miss an exclusive or two than purchase a console just to play them.

Sony could further minimize the "issue" by going with timed exclusives, want the PC version, gotta wait six months to a year. Personally would prefer same day obviously, but at least Sony would know they got what they're gonna get if the game is a real system seller.

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Its definitely not good business for PS5 putting your exclusives on PC its VERY BAD causes a rift with PC gamers not having to buy your platform

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All this drooling over one 3 year old exclusive is hilarious.

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#18  Edited By BassMan
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@Arkhalipso said:

All this drooling over one 3 year old exclusive is hilarious.

It is my favorite PS exclusive this gen and it ran at 30fps even on the Pro. So, finally being able to play the game properly on PC is a big deal. The game has been freed from its shackles.

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@Arkhalipso said:

All this drooling over one 3 year old exclusive is hilarious.

It's more the prospect of buying one less box and being able to play these console exclusives that we enjoy, the way we'd like to enjoy them.

I couldn't give a shit about Horizon. I have a PS4, still don't want the game.

But if I could play Bloodborne with better performance, the controller of my choice, and a nice visual boost as a bonus? Yes plz.

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@the_master_race said:

Also The List of Some of Console Exclusives That Are Meant To Be Played on PC

Demon's Souls - 2009

The Last of Us - 2013

Bayonetta 2 - 2014

Bloodborne - 2015

The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - 2017

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - 2017

Super Mario Odyssey -2017

Marvel's Spider-Man - 2018

God of War - 2018

These all play like typical console games lol.

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#21  Edited By lundy86_4
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@Arkhalipso said:

All this drooling over one 3 year old exclusive is hilarious.

It's straight-up a first-party game, plus it's a well received, and overall an excellent game. Makes sense for people to be excited.

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#22  Edited By the_master_race
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@Juub1990 said:
@the_master_race said:

Also The List of Some of Console Exclusives That Are Meant To Be Played on PC

Demon's Souls - 2009

The Last of Us - 2013

Bayonetta 2 - 2014

Bloodborne - 2015

The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - 2017

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - 2017

Super Mario Odyssey -2017

Marvel's Spider-Man - 2018

God of War - 2018

These all play like typical console games lol.

It's K , if the port is solid , you just need the right controller

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@lundy86_4: I know, HZD is excellent. Thing is, people would have told you otherwise when it came out. Still, this never happens everytime a PC game is announced, it just happens with PS exclusives, which says a lot about their quality.

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@Gamerno6666: that's because PCGamer was designed from the ground up to run on PCs, not mobile toaster trash

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#25  Edited By lundy86_4
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@Arkhalipso: To what are you referring? QD's release on PC was kinda luke-warm, but a little excitement. Halo MCC got a lot of excitement from PC gamers and media outlets. It doesn't just happen with PS exclusives.

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#26  Edited By BassMan
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@Arkhalipso said:

@lundy86_4: I know, HZD is excellent. Thing is, people would have told you otherwise when it came out. Still, this never happens everytime a PC game is announced, it just happens with PS exclusives, which says a lot about their quality.

We were just as excited for Xbox Play Anywhere and the MS exclusives. It is nice to have games that you like available on your platform of choice. There were plenty of people excited when the PC exclusive Fortnite came to consoles. Or when PUBG went to Xbox, etc.. All games should be on all platforms as long as it is suited for the platform. I am not a fan of exclusives. I am fan of good games and some of them sadly are exclusives.

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#27  Edited By deactivated-63d1ad7651984
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Fanboys on both sides are pathetic of course this is a good thing.

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@ConanTheStoner said:

But if I could play Bloodborne with better performance, the controller of my choice, and a nice visual boost as a bonus? Yes plz.

BB without that straight-up shit frame-timing. That's my dream, be it on PS4 or PC.

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Of course it's great

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#30  Edited By BassMan
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@lundy86_4 said:
@ConanTheStoner said:

But if I could play Bloodborne with better performance, the controller of my choice, and a nice visual boost as a bonus? Yes plz.

BB without that straight-up shit frame-timing. That's my dream, be it on PS4 or PC.

Yes, the most brutal thing about BB is not the difficulty, it is the performance. This was especially painful after having played the Dark Souls games on PC at 60fps and proper frame timing.

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I'm tearing up, PC beggars years of petition actually worked. Amazing work.

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#32  Edited By lundy86_4
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@BassMan said:

Yes, the most brutal thing about BB is not the difficulty, it is the performance. This was especially painful after having played the Dark Souls games on PC.

I went back to play BB, because it's a fucking great game, but the frame-timing destroyed it for me. I lasted about an hour, and it sucks.

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#33 Fedor
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@sakaixx: We brow beat 2/3 of the console manufacturers into submission. We coming for Nintendo next.

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@lundy86_4: Halo is an iconic franchise. I was referring to single titles if that makes sense. Still, I have to admit that when MS announced that all their games would be available on PC it made quite the fuss.

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@lundy86_4 said:

BB without that straight-up shit frame-timing. That's my dream, be it on PS4 or PC.

Right? Heard Sekiro has the same issue, haven't played it yet.

Guess it must be some deep issue with their engine, wish they'd sort that shit out.

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#36 BassMan
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@lundy86_4 said:
@BassMan said:

Yes, the most brutal thing about BB is not the difficulty, it is the performance. This was especially painful after having played the Dark Souls games on PC.

I went back to play BB, because it's a fucking great game, but the frame-timing destroyed it for me. I lasted about an hour, and it sucks.

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@BassMan: Yuuuuuup... It hurt my soul. It's a real shame.

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#38  Edited By lundy86_4
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@ConanTheStoner said:

Right? Heard Sekiro has the same issue, haven't played it yet.

Guess it must be some deep issue with their engine, wish they'd sort that shit out.

Oh man, I don't remember it with Sekiro on PC. I could be wrong, but I thought it performed decently. I've been itching to start the game up again (couldn't get past Headless Ape,) so this tempts me to see how it performs.

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#39  Edited By deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@the_master_race said:
@i_p_daily said:

I guess all that port begging is paying off for the laster race lol.

What's even funnier is the OP calls himself the master race and uses a pic from a PS4 game.

Stop being a fanboy

Says the guy named "the_master_race" and has been playing on PC since 1995.

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@the_master_race said:

Also The List of Some of Console Exclusives That Are Meant To Be Played on PC

Demon's Souls - 2009

The Last of Us - 2013

Bayonetta 2 - 2014

Bloodborne - 2015

The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - 2017

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - 2017

Super Mario Odyssey -2017

Marvel's Spider-Man - 2018

God of War - 2018

Can you beg any harder?

What this means is that console devs shit all over PC devs, with less hardware power to play with. they create games that hermits crave, and can't live without, and you guys are still waiting on Star Citizen :)

Must suck playing on a platform where all you do is dream of playing other platforms games lol.

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#41  Edited By BassMan
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@i_p_daily said:
@the_master_race said:
@i_p_daily said:

I guess all that port begging is paying off for the laster race lol.

What's even funnier is the OP calls himself the master race and uses a pic from a PS4 game.

Stop being a fanboy

Says the guy named "the_master_race" and has been playing on PC since 1995.

Hey now, I am a huge fan of Kratos and God of War and I used to have Kratos as my GS avatar too. You know, it is OK to like and try different things. Don't be afraid. You may actually have some fun.

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@lundy86_4 said:

Oh man, I don't remember it with Sekiro on PC. I could be wrong, but I thought it performed decently. I've been itching to start the game up again (couldn't get past Headless Ape,) so this tempts me to see how it performs.

Yeah, won't pretend to know exactly how it works, though I'd assume that the higher refresh rate you're getting on PC would likely make frame pacing issues less noticeable.

Bloodborne was already an inconsistent 30fps, the frame timing just added insult to injury lol.

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@i_p_daily said:
@the_master_race said:
@i_p_daily said:

I guess all that port begging is paying off for the laster race lol.

What's even funnier is the OP calls himself the master race and uses a pic from a PS4 game.

Stop being a fanboy

Says the guy named "the_master_race" and has been playing on PC since 1995.

Si what ? I believe PC is the best platform for playing games but I play console exclusives from time to time

@i_p_daily said:
@the_master_race said:

Also The List of Some of Console Exclusives That Are Meant To Be Played on PC

Demon's Souls - 2009

The Last of Us - 2013

Bayonetta 2 - 2014

Bloodborne - 2015

The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - 2017

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - 2017

Super Mario Odyssey -2017

Marvel's Spider-Man - 2018

God of War - 2018

Can you beg any harder?

What this means is that console devs shit all over PC devs, with less hardware power to play with. they create games that hermits crave, and can't live without, and you guys are still waiting on Star Citizen :)

Must suck playing on a platform where all you do is dream of playing other platforms games lol.

what really sucks is playing a game that is locked @30 fps

and ofc I'm waiting for SC , it's the most ambitious project I've ever seen

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#44  Edited By R-Gamer
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@the_master_race: None of those are meant to be played on PC.

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#45  Edited By R-Gamer
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This would only be great for PC gamers and people who never planned in owning a Playstation. Will see how far Sony takes it or even if this leaks true at all. But start whoring your exclusives out and the best Sony can hope for Is a poor mans Steam service.

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@BassMan said:
@i_p_daily said:
@the_master_race said:
@i_p_daily said:

I guess all that port begging is paying off for the laster race lol.

What's even funnier is the OP calls himself the master race and uses a pic from a PS4 game.

Stop being a fanboy

Says the guy named "the_master_race" and has been playing on PC since 1995.

Hey now, I am a huge fan of Kratos and God of War and I used to have Kratos as my GS avatar too. You know, it is OK to like and try different things. Don't be afraid. You may actually have some fun.

I owned every Sega console, every Xbox console, a N64 & a PS1 & 2, and played just abut every genre of game there is, so yeah I've tried a few different things, hermitism isn't one of them, as i'm not a person who buys something only to complain that what I bought can't play other games and take to forums to beg for them lol.

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@the_master_race said:
@i_p_daily said:
@the_master_race said:
@i_p_daily said:

I guess all that port begging is paying off for the laster race lol.

What's even funnier is the OP calls himself the master race and uses a pic from a PS4 game.

Stop being a fanboy

Says the guy named "the_master_race" and has been playing on PC since 1995.

Si what ? I believe PC is the best platform for playing games but I play console exclusives from time to time

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@the_master_race said:

Also The List of Some of Console Exclusives That Are Meant To Be Played on PC

Demon's Souls - 2009

The Last of Us - 2013

Bayonetta 2 - 2014

Bloodborne - 2015

The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - 2017

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - 2017

Super Mario Odyssey -2017

Marvel's Spider-Man - 2018

God of War - 2018

Can you beg any harder?

What this means is that console devs shit all over PC devs, with less hardware power to play with. they create games that hermits crave, and can't live without, and you guys are still waiting on Star Citizen :)

Must suck playing on a platform where all you do is dream of playing other platforms games lol.

what really sucks is playing a game that is locked @30 fps

and ofc I'm waiting for SC , it's the most ambitious project I've ever seen

Over 150 million disagree with you over 30fps.

Donate some more money so Chris can finish off his Ferrari collection and then he might actually finish the game lol.

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@i_p_daily said:
@BassMan said:
@i_p_daily said:
@the_master_race said:
@i_p_daily said:

I guess all that port begging is paying off for the laster race lol.

What's even funnier is the OP calls himself the master race and uses a pic from a PS4 game.

Stop being a fanboy

Says the guy named "the_master_race" and has been playing on PC since 1995.

Hey now, I am a huge fan of Kratos and God of War and I used to have Kratos as my GS avatar too. You know, it is OK to like and try different things. Don't be afraid. You may actually have some fun.

I owned every Sega console, every Xbox console, a N64 & a PS1 & 2, and played just abut every genre of game there is, so yeah I've tried a few different things, hermitism isn't one of them, as i'm not a person who buys something only to complain that what I bought can't play other games and take to forums to beg for them lol.

I have access to all the games and play them the best way possible. So, you have nothing on me. I judge games based on quality and not which platform they are on. Keep sucking on that Xbox dick though. Let me help you with the nasty taste....

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@i_p_daily said:
@the_master_race said:
@i_p_daily said:
@the_master_race said:
@i_p_daily said:

I guess all that port begging is paying off for the laster race lol.

What's even funnier is the OP calls himself the master race and uses a pic from a PS4 game.

Stop being a fanboy

Says the guy named "the_master_race" and has been playing on PC since 1995.

Si what ? I believe PC is the best platform for playing games but I play console exclusives from time to time

@i_p_daily said:
@the_master_race said:

Also The List of Some of Console Exclusives That Are Meant To Be Played on PC

Demon's Souls - 2009

The Last of Us - 2013

Bayonetta 2 - 2014

Bloodborne - 2015

The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - 2017

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - 2017

Super Mario Odyssey -2017

Marvel's Spider-Man - 2018

God of War - 2018

Can you beg any harder?

What this means is that console devs shit all over PC devs, with less hardware power to play with. they create games that hermits crave, and can't live without, and you guys are still waiting on Star Citizen :)

Must suck playing on a platform where all you do is dream of playing other platforms games lol.

what really sucks is playing a game that is locked @30 fps

and ofc I'm waiting for SC , it's the most ambitious project I've ever seen

Over 150 million disagree with you over 30fps.

Donate some more money so Chris can finish off his Ferrari collection and then he might actually finish the game lol.

you represent 150 million gamers ? and no ...more money won't facilitate the production process, I will buy the game when it's ready

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If console only, exclusive title loving gamers are looking for a place to blame, go look in a mirror. I’ve been poking fun at these attach rates for over a decade. Console gamers on these boards love talking about voting with their wallets. Well you’ve done it. By not buying exclusive games at an acceptable rate, y’all have scared your 1st party devs off to other platforms. The reason Nintendo doesn’t have to budge is because they have 30%-50% attach rates. Not 3%-5%.

See what happens when you don’t vote?