Was anyone really expecting this to be $100-$150? The Dual Sense alone sells for $70.
In an age where we have the Nintendo Switch, Steam Deck and RoG Ally... this comes off to me as a dumb product.
Was anyone really expecting this to be $100-$150? The Dual Sense alone sells for $70.
Some folks were expecting $300…
$150 makes a lot of sense. This thing does nothing on its own, and the screen is 🫤
This is the dumbest thing ever brought to gaming. Why in the hell would I pay $200 to do WAY less than what my phone already does. And it’s got worst battery than DualSense which is already shitty. Wtf I’m gonna game portable on an hour battery life?
@gifford38: You take gaming devices on holidays?
We must do things differently over here, because when I go on holidays I also holiday from gaming, otherwise why go on a holiday if you're gonna sit in a hotel and play games, you can do that at home for free lol.
This thing is a waste of money.
I think there are people out there that will want this. The ability to keep playing while someone else is using the TV will be the big selling point.
Kinda surprised at some of the responses here. Same people that support portable gaming devices aka Switch/Steam deck, seem to hate on this. As long as you have an internet connection, it's basically a portable PS5. Isn't that what portable gaming is all about? I have friends tell me they game more on Switch lately because of their kids using the TV or toilet gaming, or in bed etc. This is for those people. The same people bashing this because of the price, have no problem buying elite and edge controllers, which makes no sense to me. As someone else just mentioned, football season is here, so I may reconsider not getting one of these just to have something other than my phone to mess around with during commercials.
Price is lower than expected, but I don't see the purpose of it. You can buy a razer kishi and attach it to your phone, download xcloud and play whatever you like. Heck I think ps remote also works on phones...not sure about ps5 though.
@last_lap: Most holidays(vacations here) I take, I have a ton of downtime. I don't generally play video games either, but I can see some people liking that option. Especially if you have kids and are stuck at a hotel or your in-laws house.
I think there are people out there that will want this. The ability to keep playing while someone else is using the TV will be the big selling point.
Stay Gold, Ponyboy.
Bit of a head-scratcher. Presumably this is a public beta product for an upcoming cloud streaming device? I wonder if that's a feature they'll eventually enable on this thing too.
This thing is going to flop, and I'll be here for it. The market already told Sony no to stuff like this. The general gaming market just wants their regular consoles. We don't want the extra stuff. Leave that to Nintendo.
Price is lower than expected, but I don't see the purpose of it. You can buy a razer kishi and attach it to your phone, download xcloud and play whatever you like. Heck I think ps remote also works on phones...not sure about ps5 though.
The official Sony 3rd party licensed Backbone One PS edition works better.
LCD??? what rubbish is this. Is it 2007? Just definitely have an OLED.
and preferably support 120hz.
upscaled 1080p at 120hz.
OLED:
or a 2000nit mini-LED / FALD LCD at least.
Not really sure what Sony considers a sales success or a sales flop but there is definitely a place for this product. If they market this right (adults who still want to play their games while the kids watch cartoons on tv. Or a device to play at the airport between flights. Or play it in bed so your girl stops being mad that you are always in the game room and not right next to her lol..Hell, market it towards kids, showing a kid playing fortnite at the dinner table. ABSOLUTELY DO NOT market it as a traditional handheld.
Some of y'all in here saying why buy this when you can use your phone already. I use my phone already to remote play with PS5. No matter how cool it is, it's not ideal. Even using a dual sense doesn't make phone gaming any better. Razer or Backbone are decent for phone gaming but in my experience the joysticks do not have a ton of movement and the buttons are too close and too small. For a hundred bucks more you get PlayStation Portal with 2 full feature and full sized dual sense controllers and a huge 1080p 60hz display. It's insane to me that some people are recommending just using a Razer or Backbone. Y'all drop upper hundreds or thousands on phones, now also tell people to buy a $100 add on......BUT a $200 streaming device that literally does everything better than your phone gaming wise is too much?
If you own a PS5 and value gaming anywhere not directly sitting in front of your TV then this product is a easy buy. I hope it sells well and Microsoft enters the space with their own Portal like product.
Sony should just hire me for marketing the Portal. I think I shilled pretty damn good just now.
@uitravioience: Yeah you make some good points. I also like that the controls will feel the same as a regular dual sense. I hate playing Switch on the Pro controller and then trying to use the awful joycons on the go.
@joshrmeyer: I have a hard time believing ANYONE actually uses the joycons. Ergonomics of the switch are horrible lol. Tried exactly one time to play with the joycons when I first got my switch,ran right out and got a pro controller and also the Hori Split Pad. Shiiiit, maybe that's why Nintendo made the joycons, to get extra money out of people cause even Nintendo knows the joycons are horrible.
One more thing about the PlayStation Portal,and it's really the only negative I can think of. No Bluetooth for wireless earbuds?? Cmon Sony. Really? Surely the tablet already has Bluetooth built in..I already bought a pair of Samsung earbuds expensive AF. I'm definitely not buying your Sony brand expensive earbuds. Sucks ,but it is what it is. I'll just use wired headphones.
@uitravioience: Yeah I don't understand the Bluetooth thing. Sony makes plenty of Bluetooth headsets. Makes no sense. I wouldn't doubt if later on it miraculously has Bluetooth enabled.
@eni232: PS5 just has to be in rest mode. I don't ever turn my PS5 completely off, so this would work for me.
You sure it'll work in Rest mode? I read/understand it as the PS5 has to be powered on.
considering the fact that you can already do just about everything the PlayStation Portal does with the smartphone you already own, $200 seems like alot for this fundamentally redundant hardware..
more power to those that are interested in a dedicated device is suppose.. also, the fact that it doesn't stream actual cloud games seems like a big miss..
I think there are people out there that will want this. The ability to keep playing while someone else is using the TV will be the big selling point.
Yeah not like people have multiple tvs in their houses. How many tvs do you have solid?
I mean, if you've got kids, wife, yeah, this is useful. I've got both, so I might pick this up.
But you're a hermit what would you need one for...oh wait I thought you were someone else, don't mind me lol.
What? For my kid, dude. When the TV's in use.
@last_lap: Most holidays(vacations here) I take, I have a ton of downtime. I don't generally play video games either, but I can see some people liking that option. Especially if you have kids and are stuck at a hotel or your in-laws house.
No doubt some people will see some value in it and then there are guys golden who likes to waste money on new tech. But for the vast majority of PS5 owners they most likely won't touch it.
Not really sure what Sony considers a sales success or a sales flop but there is definitely a place for this product. If they market this right (adults who still want to play their games while the kids watch cartoons on tv. Or a device to play at the airport between flights. Or play it in bed so your girl stops being mad that you are always in the game room and not right next to her lol..Hell, market it towards kids, showing a kid playing fortnite at the dinner table. ABSOLUTELY DO NOT market it as a traditional handheld.
Some of y'all in here saying why buy this when you can use your phone already. I use my phone already to remote play with PS5. No matter how cool it is, it's not ideal. Even using a dual sense doesn't make phone gaming any better. Razer or Backbone are decent for phone gaming but in my experience the joysticks do not have a ton of movement and the buttons are too close and too small. For a hundred bucks more you get PlayStation Portal with 2 full feature and full sized dual sense controllers and a huge 1080p 60hz display. It's insane to me that some people are recommending just using a Razer or Backbone. Y'all drop upper hundreds or thousands on phones, now also tell people to buy a $100 add on......BUT a $200 streaming device that literally does everything better than your phone gaming wise is too much?
If you own a PS5 and value gaming anywhere not directly sitting in front of your TV then this product is a easy buy. I hope it sells well and Microsoft enters the space with their own Portal like product.
Sony should just hire me for marketing the Portal. I think I shilled pretty damn good just now.
"showing a kid playing fortnite at the dinner table." just what any parent wants. :-S
@HalcyonScarlet: out of my whole post you focus on one tiny example? Weird but ok.. what exactly is wrong with a kid playing games at the table. My niece and nephew come over to our place and draw or play games on their tablets while sitting at the dinner table. You are aware you can do other things at the table besides eat?
I really wish this could be used as a second screen. WiiU was way ahead of its time. I have a feeling PS6 will have a touchscreen instead of trackpad. But that's a long ways away. Maybe Sony will open this up to devs to use as a second screen. I don't see why it'd be that hard to do. I'd buy it for sure if I could use it as a map or inventory or instead of split screen, it'd be the controller screen and the TV.
@HalcyonScarlet: out of my whole post you focus on one tiny example? Weird but ok.. what exactly is wrong with a kid playing games at the table. My niece and nephew come over to our place and draw or play games on their tablets while sitting at the dinner table. You are aware you can do other things at the table besides eat?
"at the dinner table" sounds like while people are eating. :-S
Was anyone really expecting this to be $100-$150? The Dual Sense alone sells for $70.
I was hoping it was going to be $150. Adding a simple 8" lcd screen does not add $130 to the price of a controller. This thing costs the same as a switch lite and that plays games natively. I see the point in the product for a certain group of people, myself included, but the price point does not make sense for what the product offers in my opinion. It is $50-$70 too much. At $150, I guarantee the sales would be much higher. Then again, they are charging $200 for the compatible earbuds too, so Sony gonna Sony.
I can't believe the Sony earbuds I bought won't work with their own device. Crazy.
@HalcyonScarlet: I guess you could take it that way. It's just called a dinner table no matter what time of day it is. It gets used constantly at our house, there's always some kind of activity going on at it. If the kids want to play the Portal while eating I don't mind but they will catch a quick lesson in taking care of your stuff, cause I ain't cleaning those spaghetti sauce fingerprints off the controllers lol.
considering the fact that you can already do just about everything the PlayStation Portal does with the smartphone you already own, $200 seems like alot for this fundamentally redundant hardware..
more power to those that are interested in a dedicated device is suppose.. also, the fact that it doesn't stream actual cloud games seems like a big miss..
The premium cost comes from the fact that you're getting a native DualSense experience on a screen that's larger than your smartphone. That's the value proposition; you can get a proper DualSense controller experience as opposed to a $100 smartphone attachment.
And yeah, not being able to actually use PSN+ cloud streaming is a bummer.
gross no ty
Streaming games still sucks. Latency even in the best scenarios makes it unenjoyable for any games that require quick responses and reactions.
Was anyone really expecting this to be $100-$150? The Dual Sense alone sells for $70.
I was hoping it was going to be $150. Adding a simple 8" lcd screen does not add $130 to the price of a controller. This thing costs the same as a switch lite and that plays games natively. I see the point in the product for a certain group of people, myself included, but the price point does not make sense for what the product offers in my opinion. It is $50-$70 too much. At $150, I guarantee the sales would be much higher. Then again, they are charging $200 for the compatible earbuds too, so Sony gonna Sony.
I can't believe the Sony earbuds I bought won't work with their own device. Crazy.
So you think Sony should just sell the product at cost?
@SolidGame_basic: So you honestly think this costs $150 to produce? It's a dualsense which they are profitable on when they sell them for $50. A cheap mobile processor, and an 8" lcd screen. An 8" lcd screen can be brought alone for $20 as a consumer, so sony isn't paying near that. The mobile processor doesn't need to be powerful. This thing has no actual hardware in it and costs the same amount as a switch lite. Plus it doesn't have basic functionality like Bluetooth. I don't even own a wired headset. This isn't 1997. I have a $200 pair of earbuds that Sony decided I can't use on it.
I wanted one of these but no Bluetooth and the price has turned me off. I'll wait for a revision or a fire sale.
What an absolute piece of junk.. not sure what they think tueor user base for this thing is going to be, it's going to flop harder than psvr2. Someone needs to slap SONY awake and stop people that are pushing trash like this.
@WitIsWisdom: To be fair, it's not going to be stealing investment from their main console output - Sony's pretty good at compartmentalising their business. If anything, it's a fairly risk-free side hustle, which could generate more profit for the company.
Granted, it could be a beta test project for a cloud streaming device, so there's that to consider, I guess...
Personally I didn't think there would be much of a market at all - I'd have no interest for sure, but we've already got a few users in this thread who have a use case for this device, so god knows.
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