Pachter Believes The Nintendo NX Will Cost Around $299

What do you think of what he said? He might be right for once. If he was obviously wrong I wouldn't make a thread about him saying something.

Pachter Believes The Nintendo NX Will Cost Around $299

Everyone’s favourite video game analyst Michael Pachter has discussed the upcoming Nintendo NX platform in his latest video. During his segment he suggested that the console wouldn’t be priced higher than the PlayStation 4 or Xbox One. If it was priced higher than both it wouldn’t really sell many units, other than to hardcore Nintendo fans. Pachter also says that by the time the platform is out the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One will have substantial user bases so Nintendo needs to be competitive in its pricing. He also said that selling Wii U for $349 was a mistake that Nintendo will not repeat with the NX.

http://segmentnext.com/2015/11/16/nintendo-nx-will-cost-299-says-michael-patcher/?

Solid Price-point, but it makes me question the NX technology powering it if that were true.

I fear Nintendo are going to make the 2016-2017 NX a 2013 PS4/Xbone level machine instead of a 2018-2020 PS5/Xbox 4 level machine since that's the cheap way to go. It seems Nintendo doesn't prepare too well for getting enough power in their machines for the next generation if I were to look at the 2006 Wii and 2012 WiI U.

Of course, it's also lulzpachter.

Also, dat website, hmmmm...

Assumptions and speculations

And people expect power from a console worth $300? Is this a joke?

@silversix_: You expected power from PS4 and Xbox One?

$299 would be a great price for NX.

Yes, that's his job.

What do you think of Pachter? A lot people don't seem to like him.

I actually agree with Pach. $399.99 NX would be D.O.A.

What's to question? It's Nintendo so its easy to assume the box won't be very powerful.

Lol Pachter.

Im actually not familiar with him at all.

@silversix_: Who was really expecting power? This is Nintendo we're talking about, the best thing you'd get from them is "Shiney Mario" lol

@skullcavity: Or Shiney Cloud and Ryu.

Shiney Mario look good.

That shiney put SFV to shame.

Yes, i expected power from ps4 and xbone before official specs were announced. PS360 weren't weak when they first came out. $300 for NX means it will be a WiiU 2.0. A system stuck between two generations which is more powerful than last gen *on paper* but will never deliver anything better looking than what's present on ps4 or even Xbone. A waste of space system that will rely on gimmicks to attract their costumers is what the NX will be IF its $300. If this is true, Nintendo didn't learn shit.

go to the video tab, and copy paste the youtube link in the embed section.

i've seen dozens of people on this forum alone expecting a powerful console. Many think ("hope" would be a better wording lol) that Nintendo learned and are not making another underpowered POS.

@silversix_: Nintendo games don't require state of the art hardware, so expect another underwhelming console in regards to the horsepower.

@emgesp: They do not, no. But if you want your console to succeed and not rely on gimmicks, you need third party. If you're a gen or half a gen behind the competition, no one's gonna port anything to your platform.

I feel like Nintendo shouldn't have released the Wii U so far ahead of the other consoles, I know alot of people that count it as part of the seventh generation, lol

Nintendo did it once with the Gamecube, they can do it again. Never underestimate the great Nintendo, she can do anything.

Third Party's couldn't care less about Nintendo. Nintendo would have to pull another Wii level gimmick out of their butts for third party publishers to take notice.

@emgesp: Capcom and SquareEnix begs to differ. Wii U just got Sonys poster boy like it was nothing. Cloud Strife on Wii U? Dont mind if i do.

lol its a 'she' now? K! They did do it before and so did MS and Sony but it isn't the same anymore, law of the diminishing returns, you know. Otherwise ps4 and Xbone wouldn't be as weak for a system released in 2013.

that is where Nintendo must step the f*ck up and make it so third party care. 2016 is the year for nintendo to wake the **** up.

Yeah, let's see what kind of "support" the NX will truly get from those companies.

Gamecube sold at profit mate. Thats how good Nintendo is.

Its rumored Dragon Quest XI so far. Dragon Quest is a Nintendo favorite in Japan. Good start if you ask me.

they always sell at a profit or even at a huge profit. Time for them to lose some money for the first year of so, for the better good...

I doubt they were making a profit when they dropped the price to $99.

Good for Japan, but what about games that are relevant to the rest of the world?

Its starting price was $199, and yes, they were banking on the $99 one also, they even changed its colors like cray cray.

@silversix_: I agree, I can't see them digging their way of this hole with games alone.

How do you know they were making a profit when they dropped the price to $99 which was an obviously desperate move?

@emgesp: Cause otherwise they wouldnt have dropped the price. Software sales wouldnt have been enough to make their money. Gamecube was more powerful and more profitable then the PS2. Nintendo has never lost on a console, and never will, theyre too small a company to do so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8R4BAQf7is

^^ The guy in glasses.

They dropped the price as a direct reaction to getting their butts kicked by the PS2. I highly doubt they were able to manufacture Gamecubes below $99 to the point they could make a profit. At best they sold at cost when they dropped the price to $99. You have to factor in manufacturing, shipping, and what game retailers make per unit sold.

@Cloud_imperium: O lord, this dude is crazy and a baiter. Such disrespect for PC.

Not just PC. He has absolutely no idea about game industry. His no prediction turned out to be true and he admitted on multiple occasions that he doesn't know much about gaming. He was on gametrailers just to increase traffic because he tried really hard. I've no idea why some people still think that he's some expert. LMAO.

Um...I didn't say otherwise.

If it is $299 (big IF), it won't be very powerful (marginally I'd guess above the PS4/Xbone, but nothing extraordinary) and the NX would fall in line with Nintendo's typical under-powered/cheap strategy which would mean the NX won't be ready to take on the PS5/Xbox 4 when those hit. Then Nintendo would be forced to roll out ANOTHER machine after NX to compete with the PS54/Xbox 4 which means the NX would also have a shorter life like the Wii U seems to be headed for. Is Nintendo going to keep rolling out machines mid-gen killing off the NX too soon? Are Nintendo fans okay with dropping hundreds of dollars for less support? Of course, another way Nintendo could approach this is make a machine that could hopefully hold it's own against the PS5/Xbox 4, but historically that probably won't happen and it would be more expensive.

It's an easy assumption which is obvious which is why I said lulzpachter, but there is no 100% guarantee on this price or the tech.

Even Nintendo can surprise us with whatever this machine is, but I doubt they will.

Meh.

Very proud of this video, it became upvoted to gametrailers no1 video back in the day sitting on their own front page haha. Regardless of how many times they attempted to delete it on youtube it always cropped back up.

@uninspiredcup: Lol

I think $299 is a pretty safe prediction.

But... who believes Pachter?
He may know a lot about business, but nothing about Nintendo.

@Cloud_imperium: HAHAHA!! They crapped all over Uncharted 2, then gave COD: Modern Warfare a 9.5. Originality...

Nintendo should just wait it out for 2 more years before releasing a new console, but they won't. They are going to run into the same issues the Wii U had.

I wouldn't be surprised if we see new consoles from both Sony and Microsoft around 2018, so at best Nintendo will have a two year head start, but if they just pull another Wii U with the NX it won't matter even if they had a 5 yr head start.

And we should care about what Pachter says about anything because? Stop giving this tard attention, please. How anyone can give this guy money for guessing is beyond my understanding.

And with his history with predicting things that happens with Nintendo, it is going to end up being anything BUT $299.

There seems to be a lot of people who "don't get it" in this thread. Nintendo has lacked 3rd party support because of their consoles power and that's it. At first the Wii had support because the PS2/Xbox consoles were still getting support. The Wii U had tons of 3rd party support until the devs moved to gen 8.

The issue with Wii U is it launched far too close to a new gen while being powered to catch up to gen 7. That was a HUGE blunder by Nintendo. (Not to mention the name fiasco and silly tablet gimmick). Launching the NX just 2 years after the PS4/Xbox One won't have the same result. It also allows Nintendo to release comparable or slightly stronger hardware at a competitive price. Why is it so hard to believe that Nintendo could sell 2013's low to mid range hardware for $299 in 2016?

They could for sure. It's just that with all the rumors surrounding some innovative way to combine handheld and console experiences it sounds like this will not be a standard console. Much like their previous consoles and handhelds have been far from standard. R&D costs a ton of money. How much? None of us know exactly, but I would estimate a quarter of the total costs (including the hardware itself, marketing, packaging, shelf space, producing, storage and shipping) might be R&D for a typical Nintendo platform. And we know they don't like selling at a loss, unlike their competitors. It's just that, even if it were PS4 level hardware, it's likely to be priced higher than that. Not that I want it to be. $300 just seems very low considering the pricing of their handhelds at launch, and their competitors who didn't mind taking losses and who make most money back with online fees and royalties that Nintendo doesn't know they'll get (but I think they'll go that route, and I think that would be a tremendous success).

I'd love for it to be amazing and $300, don't get me wrong. Personally I think they'll price it really high. Because of two things: There are no other consoles launching any time soon. And once you have a measurement for success, and you can produce them for less money, you can still sell the console to people who don't want to pay as much. Those people are not suddenly gone. As long as it's very competitively priced versus the PS5 and XB2, I could see them launch whatever this is at a very high price point. Especially if the NX means the end of their handhelds. This could be essentially 2 platforms in one for them. I actually expect the NX to be more like $500-$600 and a monthly fee, going down to maybe $400 before the PS5/XB2 launch, IF they are so serious about drawing back third party support and the NX becoming a primary platform.

Of course when they say they foresee Wii/DS levels of success in 3 years time... that seems to suggest a very low price tag. Because no matter how awesome the NX might be, how else could you sell that much, that fast? So maybe you're right.

What I rather want to see, is Nintendo pushing their own online PC platform like Steam, controlled with their own innovative hardware and with their own social network and filled with their own games. That's just because I see us moving past consoles in the next 10 years as PC becomes more user friendly, wide spread and affordable. But who knows. I'm not a prophet and I don't know how that would work with Nintendo's current business structure.