I think it is this tornado game.
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[QUOTE="spinecaton"][QUOTE="killerfist"] Yeah, I saw that. Too obvious I think. musicalmac
If you check the source of his other game official websites you will notice Metal Gear is not listed at all. So who knows!
At the same time, you have to imagine there has to be some reason they're there. Otherwise Kojima is not only crying wolf, but laughing about it, as well. Taunting your very loyal fanbase is not exactly a good idea. Good point.[QUOTE="spinecaton"][QUOTE="killerfist"] Yeah, I saw that. Too obvious I think. musicalmac
If you check the source of his other game official websites you will notice Metal Gear is not listed at all. So who knows!
At the same time, you have to imagine there has to be some reason they're there. Otherwise Kojima is not only crying wolf, but laughing about it, as well. Taunting your very loyal fanbase is not exactly a good idea. lol, we all know that Kojima is a troll.Ya but thats keywords im sure if you type in metal gear kojima productions come uphttp://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-6894-SF-Console-Game-Examiner~y2009m5d14-Kojima-Productions-next-game-to-be-another-Metal-Gear
Ok so now we know its a mg game
Entei_7
Watch, it's really an advertisment for Kojima himself. Declaring himself the God of Developers. It wouldn't surprise me. The ego on this guy is legendary. Look everyone it's Kojima in the clouds. You can't see it? Squint really hard and turn off the lights....keep squinting....ok just close your eyes and envision it. There!
I am marveling at the rabbid drooling everyone is placing on this type of advertising which I think is getting extremely old. All the major dev shops are doing it these days and it's cliche and lame.
But here I am typing on the topic...which proves that it works....ugh.
:lol: oh man!Watch, it's really an advertisment for Kojima himself. Declaring himself the God of Developers. It wouldn't surprise me. The ego on this guy is legendary. Look everyone it's Kojima in the clouds. You can't see it? Squint really hard and turn off the lights....keep squinting....ok just close your eyes and envision it. There!
I am marveling at the rabbid drooling everyone is placing on this type of advertising which I think is getting extremely old. All the major dev shops are doing it these days and it's cliche and lame.
But here I am typing on the topic...which proves that it works....ugh.
KingTuttle
Yeah, because you've been a dev for quite a while now and know how these things work. :roll:[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]And the Sony/Blu-Ray/Apple references could easily be taken out. comeonthehoops
So you don't think Konami could easily chop/change a few cut-scenes, re-record some audio and replace a few models? :?
why kill a perfect game.. all of that hacking and chopping out scenes would kill mgs4. plus with everyone in a financial trouble konami would be stupid to put money into reworking a 10 game. if it does go multi im glad i got the superior version on the ps3.[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]
[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]
I thought it would be MGS5 but I guess not. So this "Tornado Outbreak" must be next weeks announcement and MGS5 & MGS4/360 are being saved for E3.
Floppy_Jim
Plenty of reasons really. With the economy Konami will want as much money as possible, it's not published by Sony and I'm sure Microsoft would love another PS franchise on their console (Moreso than new games and IP's sadly). And the Sony/Blu-Ray/Apple references could easily be taken out. I also think MGS5 will be announced as exclusive to the PS3 though (timed, anyway) at E3.
ok...i said this before if konami really wanted to make money then the game would of been mutl from the beginning. second. its not free to port games. talking out all of the sony and apple products would be a lot of work and money. it not just a walk in the park...people. plus getting the game down to size would be additional time and money. you can 't just compress everything and call it a game. flop in the making..... third.... when has a port every made enough money and sales to cover redevelopment costs. i mean a port that sold half as much as the original that came out a year or 2 ago... with konami economic problems wouldn't it be safe to not put it on another system when . its already made plenty of money on the ps3?[QUOTE="comeonthehoops"][QUOTE="nervmeister"]Yeah, because you've been a dev for quite a while now and know how these things work. :roll:sireclaborn
So you don't think Konami could easily chop/change a few cut-scenes, re-record some audio and replace a few models? :?
why kill a perfect game.. all of that hacking and chopping out scenes would kill mgs4. plus with everyone in a financial trouble konami would be stupid to put money into reworking a 10 game. if it does go multi im glad i got the superior version on the ps3. Ok so taking out a few adverts and references that have nothing to do with plot will kill the game will it? And in this financial climate, it would be perfect for konami to do. It would be cheap, and it would be guaranteed high sales. And how do you know it would be inferior on the 360? Metal Gear Online would definately be better because there wouldn't be a cumbersome registration system, and for all we know, if there was a 360 version it could get extra content. Everything in your post reeks of fail and damage control for something that probably won't even happen.[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]
[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]
Why are you so sure MGS4 is coming to the 360?sireclaborn
Plenty of reasons really. With the economy Konami will want as much money as possible, it's not published by Sony and I'm sure Microsoft would love another PS franchise on their console (Moreso than new games and IP's sadly). And the Sony/Blu-Ray/Apple references could easily be taken out. I also think MGS5 will be announced as exclusive to the PS3 though (timed, anyway) at E3.
ok...i said this before if konami really wanted to make money then the game would of been mutl from the beginning. second. its not free to port games. talking out all of the sony and apple products would be a lot of work and money. it not just a walk in the park...people. plus getting the game down to size would be additional time and money. you can 't just compress everything and call it a game. flop in the making..... third.... when has a port every made enough money and sales to cover redevelopment costs. i mean a port that sold half as much as the original that came out a year or 2 ago... with konami economic problems wouldn't it be safe to not put it on another system when . its already made plenty of money on the ps3? Why do you think a port never makes money? Did Oblivion make money on the PS3? Seriously that is ridiculous.*EDIT* Also, what does "plenty of money" mean to a company? Plenty is never enough for a BUSINESS. They want as much as possible.
[QUOTE="sireclaborn"][QUOTE="comeonthehoops"]why kill a perfect game.. all of that hacking and chopping out scenes would kill mgs4. plus with everyone in a financial trouble konami would be stupid to put money into reworking a 10 game. if it does go multi im glad i got the superior version on the ps3. Ok so taking out a few adverts and references that have nothing to do with plot will kill the game will it? And in this financial climate, it would be perfect for konami to do. It would be cheap, and it would be guaranteed high sales. You do realize that year-old ports don't tend to sell very well, right?So you don't think Konami could easily chop/change a few cut-scenes, re-record some audio and replace a few models? :?
comeonthehoops
[QUOTE="sireclaborn"][QUOTE="comeonthehoops"]why kill a perfect game.. all of that hacking and chopping out scenes would kill mgs4. plus with everyone in a financial trouble konami would be stupid to put money into reworking a 10 game. if it does go multi im glad i got the superior version on the ps3. Ok so taking out a few adverts and references that have nothing to do with plot will kill the game will it? And in this financial climate, it would be perfect for konami to do. It would be cheap, and it would be guaranteed high sales. And how do you know it would be inferior on the 360? Metal Gear Online would definately be better because there wouldn't be a cumbersome registration system, and for all we know, if there was a 360 version it could get extra content. Everything in your post reeks of fail and damage control for something that probably won't even happen.So you don't think Konami could easily chop/change a few cut-scenes, re-record some audio and replace a few models? :?
comeonthehoops
how do i know it will be inferior.
in kojima own words.. the ps3 is a theater and the 360 is a dvd. in other words the 360 could not handle mgs4 it in the beginning .
in this financial climate, it would be perfect for konami to do. It would be cheap, and it would be guaranteed high sales
please tell me how it would be cheap..... when companies are already in the red and not making enough profit.... plus with all the crap taking out and it being compressed it will be an inferior game. how is it a guaranteed success when the dev is saying the 360 can't handle my game and thats why i choice the ps3. it not free to port games... plus if you want to wait a year to play a 4 disk hack version of mgs4 for 60 dollars go ahead. no one else will be waiting for it. by that time the ps3/superior version will be 20.
ok...i said this before if konami really wanted to make money then the game would of been mutl from the beginning. second. its not free to port games. talking out all of the sony and apple products would be a lot of work and money. it not just a walk in the park...people. plus getting the game down to size would be additional time and money. you can 't just compress everything and call it a game. flop in the making..... third.... when has a port every made enough money and sales to cover redevelopment costs. i mean a port that sold half as much as the original that came out a year or 2 ago... with konami economic problems wouldn't it be safe to not put it on another system when . its already made plenty of money on the ps3? Why do you think a port never makes money? Did Oblivion make money on the PS3? Seriously that is ridiculous.[QUOTE="sireclaborn"]
[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]
Plenty of reasons really. With the economy Konami will want as much money as possible, it's not published by Sony and I'm sure Microsoft would love another PS franchise on their console (Moreso than new games and IP's sadly). And the Sony/Blu-Ray/Apple references could easily be taken out. I also think MGS5 will be announced as exclusive to the PS3 though (timed, anyway) at E3.
KingTuttle
*EDIT* Also, what does "plenty of money" mean to a company? Plenty is never enough for a BUSINESS. They want as much as possible.
Oblivion was muti from the beginning. plus plenty of money means making profit. what did you think it meant???[QUOTE="KingTuttle"]Why do you think a port never makes money? Did Oblivion make money on the PS3? Seriously that is ridiculous.[QUOTE="sireclaborn"] ok...i said this before if konami really wanted to make money then the game would of been mutl from the beginning. second. its not free to port games. talking out all of the sony and apple products would be a lot of work and money. it not just a walk in the park...people. plus getting the game down to size would be additional time and money. you can 't just compress everything and call it a game. flop in the making..... third.... when has a port every made enough money and sales to cover redevelopment costs. i mean a port that sold half as much as the original that came out a year or 2 ago... with konami economic problems wouldn't it be safe to not put it on another system when . its already made plenty of money on the ps3?
sireclaborn
*EDIT* Also, what does "plenty of money" mean to a company? Plenty is never enough for a BUSINESS. They want as much as possible.
Oblivion was muti from the beginning. plus plenty of money means making profit. what did you think it meant??? The PS3 port was not from the "beginning". Also, so you are saying once a company makes a profit that's "plenty" as in..."Ok guys we don't need anymore." Come on man. I understand ports may not make AS MUCH sometimes but saying they never make profit to make it worth the effort is silly.Ok so taking out a few adverts and references that have nothing to do with plot will kill the game will it? And in this financial climate, it would be perfect for konami to do. It would be cheap, and it would be guaranteed high sales. And how do you know it would be inferior on the 360? Metal Gear Online would definately be better because there wouldn't be a cumbersome registration system, and for all we know, if there was a 360 version it could get extra content. Everything in your post reeks of fail and damage control for something that probably won't even happen.[QUOTE="comeonthehoops"][QUOTE="sireclaborn"] why kill a perfect game.. all of that hacking and chopping out scenes would kill mgs4. plus with everyone in a financial trouble konami would be stupid to put money into reworking a 10 game. if it does go multi im glad i got the superior version on the ps3. sireclaborn
how do i know it will be inferior.
in kojima own words.. the ps3 is a theater and the 360 is a dvd. in other words the 360 could not handle mgs4 it in the beginning .
in this financial climate, it would be perfect for konami to do. It would be cheap, and it would be guaranteed high sales
please tell me how it would be cheap..... when companies are already in the red and not making enough profit.... plus with all the crap taking out and it being compressed it will be an inferior game. how is it a guaranteed success when the dev is saying the 360 can't handle my game and thats why i choice the ps3. it not free to port games... plus if you want to wait a year to play a 4 disk hack version of mgs4 for 60 dollars go ahead. no one else will be waiting for it. by that time the ps3/superior version will be 20.
Oooh Kojima said? That certainly makes it true. The truth is that Kojima has next to no experience with the 360, and is as qualified to judge it's power as you or me. What you say makes no sense. Just because companies aren't making that much money just now doesn't mean that a port job suddenly becomes more expensive. Ports cost way less than making a new game from scratch, and the 360's userbase is quite a lot larger than the PS3's. Didn't Oblivion enjoy moderate success as a port of an older game on the PS3 when it has a tiny userbase? My hypothesis is that there are a large number of people who owned a PS2 last gen and played the MGS games who now own a 360, and would like to play MGS4 but won't buy an expensive console for one game (like me). It wouldn't sell as well as on the PS3, obviously, but it would be enough to justify the port. As far as disk space goes, it will probably be on multiple DVDs. So what? If Konami were to compress the game properly, I bet it would only take 2 DVDs.[QUOTE="sireclaborn"][QUOTE="comeonthehoops"] Ok so taking out a few adverts and references that have nothing to do with plot will kill the game will it? And in this financial climate, it would be perfect for konami to do. It would be cheap, and it would be guaranteed high sales. And how do you know it would be inferior on the 360? Metal Gear Online would definately be better because there wouldn't be a cumbersome registration system, and for all we know, if there was a 360 version it could get extra content. Everything in your post reeks of fail and damage control for something that probably won't even happen.comeonthehoops
how do i know it will be inferior.
in kojima own words.. the ps3 is a theater and the 360 is a dvd. in other words the 360 could not handle mgs4 it in the beginning .
in this financial climate, it would be perfect for konami to do. It would be cheap, and it would be guaranteed high sales
please tell me how it would be cheap..... when companies are already in the red and not making enough profit.... plus with all the crap taking out and it being compressed it will be an inferior game. how is it a guaranteed success when the dev is saying the 360 can't handle my game and thats why i choice the ps3. it not free to port games... plus if you want to wait a year to play a 4 disk hack version of mgs4 for 60 dollars go ahead. no one else will be waiting for it. by that time the ps3/superior version will be 20.
Oooh The truth is that Kojima has next to no experience with the 360, and is as qualified to judge it's power as you or me. What you say makes no sense. Just because companies aren't making that much money just now doesn't mean that a port job suddenly becomes more expensive. Ports cost way less than making a new game from scratch, and the 360's userbase is quite a lot larger than the PS3's. Didn't Oblivion enjoy moderate success as a port of an older game on the PS3 when it has a tiny userbase? My hypothesis is that there are a large number of people who owned a PS2 last gen and played the MGS games who now own a 360, and would like to play MGS4 but won't buy an expensive console for one game (like me). It wouldn't sell as well as on the PS3, obviously, but it would be enough to justify the port. As far as disk space goes, it will probably be on multiple DVDs. So what? If Konami were to compress the game properly, I bet it would only take 2 DVDs.Kojima said? That certainly makes it true.
are you serious???? do even know who kojima is. this isn't some hack dev who works at ea. it common sense to seee that the 360 and the ps3 are not on the same level. and since kojima has worked on games for 20 + years i think he knows what he is talking about.
your not thinking like a business your thinking like a fanboy....i pretty sure that those who really wanted to play mgs4 used common sense and bought a ps3... for those that didn't there quite stupid. so far mgs4 going to the 360 is nothing but a rumor and it always has been a rumor. it actually sad that there are some lems who still want ps3 scraps. if it does go the 360 i'll just laugh because it proves how lackluster the 360 really is.
also if this was a normal port then yes it would be cheaper. but as you stated earlier.... the sony and the apple products need to replaced or taken out plus audio needs to be reworked, compressed etc. your reworking the entire game. thats means it going to cost money
[QUOTE="sireclaborn"][QUOTE="KingTuttle"] Why do you think a port never makes money? Did Oblivion make money on the PS3? Seriously that is ridiculous.Oblivion was muti from the beginning. plus plenty of money means making profit. what did you think it meant??? The PS3 port was not from the "beginning". Also, so you are saying once a company makes a profit that's "plenty" as in..."Ok guys we don't need anymore." Come on man. I understand ports may not make AS MUCH sometimes but saying they never make profit to make it worth the effort is silly. alright your not getting . scenario lets say konami drops 20m on a port of mgs4. it takes a year to port.... now 20 m is just to port the game not dev expenses marketing, etc. mgs4 gets released. it no where near the level of the ps3 version which came out two years ago. the few lems who actually wanted the game aren't interested in it anymore. the game get a 6.5 average on game sites the game is a flop. kojima says i told you so...... konami only makes 5 million. they lost money and now are in the hole. they couldn't even cover dev cost. which means they have not profited. in order to profit you need to make more money than your original costs. if i buy something for a dollar and sell it to you for $2. i have profited. if i sell it for 50 cents i lost money and have not profited.*EDIT* Also, what does "plenty of money" mean to a company? Plenty is never enough for a BUSINESS. They want as much as possible.
KingTuttle
I'm pretty sure i see snake hiding in the grass on the teaser site. Right hand corner. He's there i know it.AAllxxjjnnlol you never know what Kojima could pull out. :D
Oooh The truth is that Kojima has next to no experience with the 360, and is as qualified to judge it's power as you or me. What you say makes no sense. Just because companies aren't making that much money just now doesn't mean that a port job suddenly becomes more expensive. Ports cost way less than making a new game from scratch, and the 360's userbase is quite a lot larger than the PS3's. Didn't Oblivion enjoy moderate success as a port of an older game on the PS3 when it has a tiny userbase? My hypothesis is that there are a large number of people who owned a PS2 last gen and played the MGS games who now own a 360, and would like to play MGS4 but won't buy an expensive console for one game (like me). It wouldn't sell as well as on the PS3, obviously, but it would be enough to justify the port. As far as disk space goes, it will probably be on multiple DVDs. So what? If Konami were to compress the game properly, I bet it would only take 2 DVDs.[QUOTE="comeonthehoops"][QUOTE="sireclaborn"]
how do i know it will be inferior.
in kojima own words.. the ps3 is a theater and the 360 is a dvd. in other words the 360 could not handle mgs4 it in the beginning .
in this financial climate, it would be perfect for konami to do. It would be cheap, and it would be guaranteed high sales
please tell me how it would be cheap..... when companies are already in the red and not making enough profit.... plus with all the crap taking out and it being compressed it will be an inferior game. how is it a guaranteed success when the dev is saying the 360 can't handle my game and thats why i choice the ps3. it not free to port games... plus if you want to wait a year to play a 4 disk hack version of mgs4 for 60 dollars go ahead. no one else will be waiting for it. by that time the ps3/superior version will be 20.
sireclaborn
Kojima said? That certainly makes it true.
are you serious???? do even know who kojima is. this isn't some hack dev who works at ea. it common sense to seee that the 360 and the ps3 are not on the same level. and since kojima has worked on games for 20 + years i think he knows what he is talking about.
your not thinking like a business your thinking like a fanboy....i pretty sure that those who really wanted to play mgs4 used common sense and bought a ps3... for those that didn't there quite stupid. so far mgs4 going to the 360 is nothing but a rumor and it always has been a rumor. it actually sad that there are some lems who still want ps3 scraps. if it does go the 360 i'll just laugh because it proves how lackluster the 360 really is.
also if this was a normal port then yes it would be cheaper. but as you stated earlier.... the sony and the apple products need to replaced or taken out plus audio needs to be reworked, compressed etc. your reworking the entire game. thats means it going to cost money
I see the inner fanboy has taken over you like a parasite, forcing you to block out all reason and common sense :|
Of course I know who Kojima is. I've probably been gaming for longer than you. Judging from your poor grasp of the English language you must be about 12.
Kojima knows nothing of the 360. What gives him the right to comment on it's power? He may be very experienced and well versed in gaming as an industry, but that doesn't mean he knows anything about the capabilities of the 360.
I've played all the main MGS games but 4, but I certainly don't care enough about it to buy an expensive console for the one game on it I actually care about. I never said it was more than a rumour. In fact, I even acknowledged that I don't think it will happen.
And it's hardly a PS3 scrap... It's the consoles best game. You're just trying to downplay the significance of the possibility of it going multiplat to ease your insecurites. If I went by your logic, since the PS3 is getting a port of Ninja Gaiden 2, it must also have a poor library of games :roll:
The 360 still has the best overally library this gen. Aside from the PC, it has the most A+ games here at GS - If the 360 has a poor library what does that have to say for the PS3's library?
And it still wouldn't cost nearly as much as it did to make it for the PS3.
Next time you reply, please try harder with your argument ;)
The PS3 port was not from the "beginning". Also, so you are saying once a company makes a profit that's "plenty" as in..."Ok guys we don't need anymore." Come on man. I understand ports may not make AS MUCH sometimes but saying they never make profit to make it worth the effort is silly. alright your not getting . scenario lets say konami drops 20m on a port of mgs4. it takes a year to port.... now 20 m is just to port the game not dev expenses marketing, etc. mgs4 gets released. it no where near the level of the ps3 version which came out two years ago. the few lems who actually wanted the game aren't interested in it anymore. the game get a 6.5 average on game sites the game is a flop. kojima says i told you so...... konami only makes 5 million. they lost money and now are in the hole. they couldn't even cover dev cost. which means they have not profited. in order to profit you need to make more money than your original costs. if i buy something for a dollar and sell it to you for $2. i have profited. if i sell it for 50 cents i lost money and have not profited. Ok...I understand the concept of profitability. You don't understand that ports have profited in the past. BTW- for the record I don't see MGS4 coming to 360...I just don't agree with your sentiments on ports and profit.[QUOTE="KingTuttle"][QUOTE="sireclaborn"] Oblivion was muti from the beginning. plus plenty of money means making profit. what did you think it meant???sireclaborn
The PS3 port was not from the "beginning". Also, so you are saying once a company makes a profit that's "plenty" as in..."Ok guys we don't need anymore." Come on man. I understand ports may not make AS MUCH sometimes but saying they never make profit to make it worth the effort is silly. alright your not getting . scenario lets say konami drops 20m on a port of mgs4. it takes a year to port.... now 20 m is just to port the game not dev expenses marketing, etc. mgs4 gets released. it no where near the level of the ps3 version which came out two years ago. the few lems who actually wanted the game aren't interested in it anymore. the game get a 6.5 average on game sites the game is a flop. kojima says i told you so...... konami only makes 5 million. they lost money and now are in the hole. they couldn't even cover dev cost. which means they have not profited. in order to profit you need to make more money than your original costs. if i buy something for a dollar and sell it to you for $2. i have profited. if i sell it for 50 cents i lost money and have not profited. Exactly. Putting MGS4 on the 360 would just be bad business on Konami's part. Ask yourself this: Do you really think 360 owners would buy a 1-2 year old game that mainly has a Playstation fan base?[QUOTE="KingTuttle"][QUOTE="sireclaborn"] Oblivion was muti from the beginning. plus plenty of money means making profit. what did you think it meant???sireclaborn
"I am the lightning" - Raiden
storm clouds?
omg Metal Gear Raiden?
set between mgs2 and mgs4 how Raiden get back sonny from Patriots and how he becomes cyborg ninja
[QUOTE="sireclaborn"]alright your not getting . scenario lets say konami drops 20m on a port of mgs4. it takes a year to port.... now 20 m is just to port the game not dev expenses marketing, etc. mgs4 gets released. it no where near the level of the ps3 version which came out two years ago. the few lems who actually wanted the game aren't interested in it anymore. the game get a 6.5 average on game sites the game is a flop. kojima says i told you so...... konami only makes 5 million. they lost money and now are in the hole. they couldn't even cover dev cost. which means they have not profited. in order to profit you need to make more money than your original costs. if i buy something for a dollar and sell it to you for $2. i have profited. if i sell it for 50 cents i lost money and have not profited. Exactly. Putting MGS4 on the 360 would just be bad business on Konami's part. Ask yourself this: Do you really think 360 owners would buy a 1-2 year old game that mainly has a Playstation fan base? If Halo 3 was 3rd party...would it be popular and potentially profitable on PS3?[QUOTE="KingTuttle"] The PS3 port was not from the "beginning". Also, so you are saying once a company makes a profit that's "plenty" as in..."Ok guys we don't need anymore." Come on man. I understand ports may not make AS MUCH sometimes but saying they never make profit to make it worth the effort is silly.clubsammich91
if you all went to the teaser site,,,...you can press ctrl+u
and the keywords are Hideo Kojima, MGS,METAL GEAR, NEXT, game, konami, kojima game, KJP, Kojima Production. argue about it now lol.
[QUOTE="sireclaborn"]
[QUOTE="comeonthehoops"] Oooh The truth is that Kojima has next to no experience with the 360, and is as qualified to judge it's power as you or me. What you say makes no sense. Just because companies aren't making that much money just now doesn't mean that a port job suddenly becomes more expensive. Ports cost way less than making a new game from scratch, and the 360's userbase is quite a lot larger than the PS3's. Didn't Oblivion enjoy moderate success as a port of an older game on the PS3 when it has a tiny userbase? My hypothesis is that there are a large number of people who owned a PS2 last gen and played the MGS games who now own a 360, and would like to play MGS4 but won't buy an expensive console for one game (like me). It wouldn't sell as well as on the PS3, obviously, but it would be enough to justify the port. As far as disk space goes, it will probably be on multiple DVDs. So what? If Konami were to compress the game properly, I bet it would only take 2 DVDs.comeonthehoops
Kojima said? That certainly makes it true.
are you serious???? do even know who kojima is. this isn't some hack dev who works at ea. it common sense to seee that the 360 and the ps3 are not on the same level. and since kojima has worked on games for 20 + years i think he knows what he is talking about.
your not thinking like a business your thinking like a fanboy....i pretty sure that those who really wanted to play mgs4 used common sense and bought a ps3... for those that didn't there quite stupid. so far mgs4 going to the 360 is nothing but a rumor and it always has been a rumor. it actually sad that there are some lems who still want ps3 scraps. if it does go the 360 i'll just laugh because it proves how lackluster the 360 really is.
also if this was a normal port then yes it would be cheaper. but as you stated earlier.... the sony and the apple products need to replaced or taken out plus audio needs to be reworked, compressed etc. your reworking the entire game. thats means it going to cost money
I see the inner fanboy has taken over you like a parasite, forcing you to block out all reason and common sense :|
Of course I know who Kojima is. I've probably been gaming for longer than you. Judging from your poor grasp of the English language you must be about 12.
Kojima knows nothing of the 360. What gives him the right to comment on it's power? He may be very experienced and well versed in gaming as an industry, but that doesn't mean he knows anything about the capabilities of the 360.
I've played all the main MGS games but 4, but I certainly don't care enough about it to buy an expensive console for the one game on it I actually care about. I never said it was more than a rumour. In fact, I even acknowledged that I don't think it will happen.
And it's hardly a PS3 scrap... It's the consoles best game. You're just trying to downplay the significance of the possibility of it going multiplat to ease your insecurites. If I went by your logic, since the PS3 is getting a port of Ninja Gaiden 2, it must also have a poor library of games :roll:
The 360 still has the best overally library this gen. Aside from the PC, it has the most A+ games here at GS - If the 360 has a poor library what does that have to say for the PS3's library?
And it still wouldn't cost nearly as much as it did to make it for the PS3.
Next time you reply, please try harder with your argument ;)
forcing you to block out all reason and common sense
you have not stated anything that's on the same level as common sense.
and it's hardly a PS3 scrap... It's the consoles best game. You're just trying to downplay the significance of the possibility of it going multiplat to ease your insecurites
are you serious?? yeah im going to throw my ps3 out the window and buy a 360..... than i'll wait a whole year to play mgs4. i know mgs4 is one of the best ps3 games i have it but it still ps3 scraps. read my sig to get a full understanding of what i mean. yeah we all heard it before. the . has the most aa and crap.... that was 2 years ago dude,,, what about know..... but your boring me....
[QUOTE="clubsammich91"][QUOTE="sireclaborn"] alright your not getting . scenario lets say konami drops 20m on a port of mgs4. it takes a year to port.... now 20 m is just to port the game not dev expenses marketing, etc. mgs4 gets released. it no where near the level of the ps3 version which came out two years ago. the few lems who actually wanted the game aren't interested in it anymore. the game get a 6.5 average on game sites the game is a flop. kojima says i told you so...... konami only makes 5 million. they lost money and now are in the hole. they couldn't even cover dev cost. which means they have not profited. in order to profit you need to make more money than your original costs. if i buy something for a dollar and sell it to you for $2. i have profited. if i sell it for 50 cents i lost money and have not profited.Exactly. Putting MGS4 on the 360 would just be bad business on Konami's part. Ask yourself this: Do you really think 360 owners would buy a 1-2 year old game that mainly has a Playstation fan base? If Halo 3 was 3rd party...would it be popular and potentially profitable on PS3? Would it? If it were released 2-3 years later do you think PS3 owners would even care? MS wouldn't let that game slip away just like Sony with MGS4. All the more reason neither of them would appear on each others consoles.KingTuttle
[QUOTE="clubsammich91"][QUOTE="sireclaborn"] alright your not getting . scenario lets say konami drops 20m on a port of mgs4. it takes a year to port.... now 20 m is just to port the game not dev expenses marketing, etc. mgs4 gets released. it no where near the level of the ps3 version which came out two years ago. the few lems who actually wanted the game aren't interested in it anymore. the game get a 6.5 average on game sites the game is a flop. kojima says i told you so...... konami only makes 5 million. they lost money and now are in the hole. they couldn't even cover dev cost. which means they have not profited. in order to profit you need to make more money than your original costs. if i buy something for a dollar and sell it to you for $2. i have profited. if i sell it for 50 cents i lost money and have not profited.Exactly. Putting MGS4 on the 360 would just be bad business on Konami's part. Ask yourself this: Do you really think 360 owners would buy a 1-2 year old game that mainly has a Playstation fan base? If Halo 3 was 3rd party...would it be popular and potentially profitable on PS3? no... the game has already came out and sold plenty of copies. it really would be a waste of money to port halo 3 to the ps3 when everyone bought halo for the 360 was 6-8 months ago. when companies start acting greedy and milk the hell out of their games you end with a crappy game with no profit.KingTuttle
[QUOTE="comeonthehoops"]
[QUOTE="sireclaborn"]
Kojima said? That certainly makes it true.
are you serious???? do even know who kojima is. this isn't some hack dev who works at ea. it common sense to seee that the 360 and the ps3 are not on the same level. and since kojima has worked on games for 20 + years i think he knows what he is talking about.
your not thinking like a business your thinking like a fanboy....i pretty sure that those who really wanted to play mgs4 used common sense and bought a ps3... for those that didn't there quite stupid. so far mgs4 going to the 360 is nothing but a rumor and it always has been a rumor. it actually sad that there are some lems who still want ps3 scraps. if it does go the 360 i'll just laugh because it proves how lackluster the 360 really is.
also if this was a normal port then yes it would be cheaper. but as you stated earlier.... the sony and the apple products need to replaced or taken out plus audio needs to be reworked, compressed etc. your reworking the entire game. thats means it going to cost money
sireclaborn
I see the inner fanboy has taken over you like a parasite, forcing you to block out all reason and common sense :|
Of course I know who Kojima is. I've probably been gaming for longer than you. Judging from your poor grasp of the English language you must be about 12.
Kojima knows nothing of the 360. What gives him the right to comment on it's power? He may be very experienced and well versed in gaming as an industry, but that doesn't mean he knows anything about the capabilities of the 360.
I've played all the main MGS games but 4, but I certainly don't care enough about it to buy an expensive console for the one game on it I actually care about. I never said it was more than a rumour. In fact, I even acknowledged that I don't think it will happen.
And it's hardly a PS3 scrap... It's the consoles best game. You're just trying to downplay the significance of the possibility of it going multiplat to ease your insecurites. If I went by your logic, since the PS3 is getting a port of Ninja Gaiden 2, it must also have a poor library of games :roll:
The 360 still has the best overally library this gen. Aside from the PC, it has the most A+ games here at GS - If the 360 has a poor library what does that have to say for the PS3's library?
And it still wouldn't cost nearly as much as it did to make it for the PS3.
Next time you reply, please try harder with your argument ;)
forcing you to block out all reason and common sense
you have not stated anything that's on the same level as common sense.
and it's hardly a PS3 scrap... It's the consoles best game. You're just trying to downplay the significance of the possibility of it going multiplat to ease your insecurites
are you serious?? yeah im going to throw my ps3 out the window and buy a 360..... than i'll wait a whole year to play mgs4. i know mgs4 is one of the best ps3 games i have it but it still ps3 scraps. read my sig to get a full understanding of what i mean. yeah we all heard it before. the . has the most aa and crap.... that was 2 years ago dude,,, what about know..... but your boring me....
Trust me, you are in no position to judge common sense.
And yes I am serious. But not once did I say it would affect PS3 owners in such a way that it would make their consoles useless. Your reading comprehension is failing you.
The 360 still has the most A+ games :| Whichever console has the best line-up is purely opinion, but around here GS is the only credible place to base the quality of games on.
And your sig is just a load of fanboy drivel. You don't actually believe that do you? There is a reason nobody else will post that in their sig you know :roll:
And at least I can be constructive with my arguments. You just spout fanboy nonsense. With every post you make, you just embarras yourself further.
If Halo 3 was 3rd party...would it be popular and potentially profitable on PS3? Would it? If it were released 2-3 years later do you think PS3 owners would even care? MS wouldn't let that game slip away just like Sony with MGS4. All the more reason neither of them would appear on each others consoles. I used a hypothetical scenario (and clearly stated IF it was 3rd Party). Just like the hypothetical numbers that sireclaborn used in his dev cost of an MGS4 port to 360.[QUOTE="KingTuttle"][QUOTE="clubsammich91"] Exactly. Putting MGS4 on the 360 would just be bad business on Konami's part. Ask yourself this: Do you really think 360 owners would buy a 1-2 year old game that mainly has a Playstation fan base?clubsammich91
If Halo 3 was 3rd party...would it be popular and potentially profitable on PS3? no... the game has already came out and sold plenty of copies. it really would be a waste of money to port halo 3 to the ps3 when everyone bought halo for the 360 was 6-8 months ago. when companies start acting greedy and milk the hell out of their games you end with a crappy game with no profit. So every PS3 owner owns a 360 and has Halo3? MGS4 could be profitable on the 360. I have to agree with comeonthehoops....your retorts do seem to be overly blinded by your love of the PS3. But who cares really...this ridiculous cryptic advertisment hype train by Konami is so played out now...[QUOTE="KingTuttle"][QUOTE="clubsammich91"] Exactly. Putting MGS4 on the 360 would just be bad business on Konami's part. Ask yourself this: Do you really think 360 owners would buy a 1-2 year old game that mainly has a Playstation fan base?sireclaborn
wickid awesome kz stats you got there made me jealousKojima should remake Metal Gear 1 and 2 with full blown next gen 3d grapchis omfg!!!!!!!!
Generalmojo
[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]Would it? If it were released 2-3 years later do you think PS3 owners would even care? MS wouldn't let that game slip away just like Sony with MGS4. All the more reason neither of them would appear on each others consoles. I used a hypothetical scenario (and clearly stated IF it was 3rd Party). Just like the hypothetical numbers that sireclaborn used in his dev cost of an MGS4 port to 360. Ok. Hypothetically if Halo 3 was 3'rd party when it came out I and many other PS3 owners would have probably bought it. The same might of gone for MGS4 had it been multiplat from the beginning. However if Halo 3 came out on the PS3 lets say late 09 It would sell, just not a whole lot. Remember Bioshock, how it came out on the PS3 a year later? I did not see one tv ad for the game and I think it sold rather badly compared to the 360/PC versions. Who knows, if MGS4 did come out on the 360 it might sell really well. But it most likely won't.[QUOTE="KingTuttle"] If Halo 3 was 3rd party...would it be popular and potentially profitable on PS3? KingTuttle
i can see the single player being ported but i very much doubt MGO ould make it onto XBL if konami wants complete control over the online portion then it just will not come to XBL at all
[QUOTE="Generalmojo"]wickid awesome kz stats you got there made me jealous thnx :)Kojima should remake Metal Gear 1 and 2 with full blown next gen 3d grapchis omfg!!!!!!!!
Englandfc1966
what the hell does that pic have to do with MGS4 and the ps3 and/or 360?JPOBSNothing at all. This whole thing is ridiculous. Perfect for SW. :)
i dont even think that ps3 owners care about mgo, this is the first time ive heard someone mention it on here in like 2 months.i can see the single player being ported but i very much doubt MGO ould make it onto XBL if konami wants complete control over the online portion then it just will not come to XBL at all
hyperboy152000
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