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#1 EvanTheGamer
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NRP (National Public Radio) Today on Marketplace Money: Stating the obvious. Despite what some posters on this board may delusionally believe, NPR (unbiased) did a report on video games in which this well-known fact was brought up. You could hear it in his voice that the interviewee had to refrain from laughing at the irrelevance of PC gaming when the subject was brought up. I know the response will be "Bu bu but DD sales!" Completely irrelevant, thinking otherwise just adds to the delusion. Anyway hope SW is having good day : )
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#2 Lucianu
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Still remains infinitely superior.

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#3 waltefmoney
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No link?

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#4 cobrax55
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No link?

waltefmoney

knowing the TC he probably just made it up.

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#5 TheEroica  Moderator
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I dont think even the most insane fanboy of the pc can refute that the consoles sell stacks and stacks more than pc...
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#6 Ballroompirate
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This can't end well

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#7 SecretPolice
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NPR is the bias :o well, at least politically. :P

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#8 PcGamingRig
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*looks at TC's sig* :P

unless you provide proof of this story i'll assume you are trolling. and who are they anyway? lol.

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#9 PurpleMan5000
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So some unnamed dude on NPR says PC gaming is irrelevant? Oh no!!!!!!
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#10 Arach666
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I don´t see any links,don´t even know what NPR is and it´s Evan,so all I have to say is lol. :lol:

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#11 EvanTheGamer
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

No link?

cobrax55

knowing the TC he probably just made it up.

Did you read my post? Its radio not an article.
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#12 PurpleMan5000
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[QUOTE="cobrax55"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

No link?

EvanTheGamer

knowing the TC he probably just made it up.

Did you read my post? Its radio not an article.

What was the name of the person who was interviewed, then?
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#13 Arach666
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[QUOTE="cobrax55"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

No link?

EvanTheGamer

knowing the TC he probably just made it up.

Did you read my post? Its radio not an article.

Sounds legit.
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#14 AdrianWerner
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NRP (National Public Radio) Today on Marketplace Money: Stating the obvious. Despite what some posters on this board may delusionally believe, NPR (unbiased) did a report on video games in which this well-known fact was brought up. You could hear it in his voice that the interviewee had to refrain from laughing at the irrelevance of PC gaming when the subject was brought up. I know the response will be "Bu bu but DD sales!" Completely irrelevant, thinking otherwise just adds to the delusion. Anyway hope SW is having good day : )EvanTheGamer
DFC says otherwise. And I think the only analytics group doing worldwide data gathering for games is a "little" more trust worth than some US-only radio program.

Sorry, you're trolling attempt failed.

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#15 Lucianu
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Did you read my post? Its radio not an article.EvanTheGamer

This thread was destined to become , son, i know you didn't expect anyone to believe you with those signatures.

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[QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]Did you read my post? Its radio not an article.Lucianu

This thread was destined to become , son, i know you didn't expect anyone to believe you with those signatures.

Indeed, not only he's obviously heavily biased, but he even puts lies into his own sig. So I doubt he expected anyone to treat him seriously. He's propably "doing it for the lulz"

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#17 PcGamingRig
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You do realise in your sig that WoW is just one game that you don't have to play and that you do HAVE to pay $60 a year if you want to do any sort of online gameplay on any game on the 360, lol.

and "it was on the radio" isn't really a good excuse on a forum, even if you are telling the truth you probably shouldn't of posted it.

you may aswell have said your cat told you about it.

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#18 fadersdream
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Can we just get to the "cut and paste" pc responses to why this either doesn't matter or doesn't count? I'm tired of waiting for the BS stream.

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#19 adamosmaki
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hey TC today in my country i listened to amazing national radio a guy that was asked about gaming and when consoles came up he almost laughed. He also said that console gaming will die 2 years 4 months and 23 days. See what i did there ?
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#20 Kinthalis
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hey TC today in my country i listened to amazing national radio a guy that was asked about gaming and when consoles came up he almost laughed. He also said that console gaming will die 2 years 4 months and 23 days. See what i did there ?adamosmaki

I heard the same report! (therefore it must be true!).

Man that guy couldn't stop laughing when they asked about console graphics too ;)

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#21 jhcho2
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Although I'm not completely opposed to the possibility of the console market being vastly bigger than the pc market, I can't help but feel that any survey or study made to verify this claim would end up being moot. Firstly, the only lead these people have are sales. They will attempt to compare the sales of these two markets and draw a conclusion from it. Now here's the catch...PC games are far more pirated than console games, meaning that the actual sales only represent the paying customers, but the actual size of the pc community may be much much bigger. But then again, non-paying customers aren't really considered as part of the 'market' from a business standpoint. They really have to define what 'pc gaming' means. Do they mean the current paying customers? Or the whole userbase?

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#22 The_Djoker
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PC sucks. I'm using Ipad to browse GS right now.
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#23 Lucianu
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Indeed, not only he's obviously heavily biased, but he even puts lies into his own sig. So I doubt he expected anyone to treat him seriously. He's propably "doing it for the lulz"

AdrianWerner

Yeah, he should have just said something like... " my lil' dog just looked me in the eyes with a sad puppy dog face wile i was playing around on my PC yesterday. I think he meant to tell me psychologically that PC gaming is just to small compared to console gaming. Consoles also have better graphics because they magically transform sun light to mana so developers that squeeze that juicy mana to push visuals further."

Would have ben funny .

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#24 da_chub
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Since xbox and PS2 made gaming cool(something that nintendo never did) millions of new age gamers got consoles. PC gaming makes you think of a fat 40year old playing WoW where as it is cool to play COD non stop nowadays. personally, i am a PC/Nintendo gamer. I only have a ps3 since wii is so underpowered, it misses tons of great games that PC doesnt get either. However, Wii U looks to fix that issue, and i doubt i will have a ps4 next to my nintendo next gen. and since you cant get starcraft or actual decent versions of valve games on consoles, i will have a gaming PC.
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#25 Kinthalis
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Also, the Pc gmaing market is larger than console if include casual gaming portals/social games.

The only way consoles are larger is if you only look at core games: retial + downloads + MMO's.

And even then the COMBINED console revennue is only about 25% larger.

The bottom line is: who cares?

The PC is large enough that almost ALL publishers are putting out PC games.

The Pc gets the best version of multi-plats and has a huge and growing library of exclusives. Including some amazing free to play games.

Some games do better on PC than on console, regardless (Battlefield Bad company 2, Portal 2, Dungeon Defenders, Super MEat boy, and many others outsold consoles on PC).

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#26 Spartan070
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Still remains infinitely superior.

Lucianu

Infinitely? Hardly...

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#27 firefluff3
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Funny how if anyone says anything good about PC gaming everyones like, "Well there we have it folks." and when its against everyones like "OMG TEH LIEZ". I know its not a reliable source (there isn't one) but its still hilarious.

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#28 Lucianu
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[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

Still remains infinitely superior.

Spartan070

Infinitely? Hardly...

Yeah, i stated that in a very exaggerated way, i wasn't serious, basically throwing a similar coin the thread starter threw (biased crap).

Though i am serious wen i'm saying that it really is incredible how open ended a PC can be in the hands of a man with a creative mind fueling his passion. I can mold the perfect home entertainment system, everything that my mind can grasp, with enough time on my hands.

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They will never ever believe the obvious, don't even try dude lol
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#30 Harisemo
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it's a dead market so obviously it would be smaller lol

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#31 Kinthalis
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[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

Still remains infinitely superior.

Spartan070

Infinitely? Hardly...

Infinitely seems to be overkill.

How about, clealry superior ;)

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Also, the Pc gmaing market is larger than console if include casual gaming portals/social games.

The only way consoles are larger is if you only look at core games: retial + downloads + MMO's.

And even then the COMBINED console revennue is only about 25% larger.

The bottom line is: who cares?

The PC is large enough that almost ALL publishers are putting out PC games.

The Pc gets the best version of multi-plats and has a huge and growing library of exclusives. Including some amazing free to play games.

Some games do better on PC than on console, regardless (Battlefield Bad company 2, Portal 2, Dungeon Defenders, Super MEat boy, and many others outsold consoles on PC).

Kinthalis

I think calling 90% of the kinect and wii library "core" is a misnomer.

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#33 Kinthalis
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it's a dead market so obviously it would be smaller lol

Harisemo

Yeah, it's so dead that almost EVERY publisher puts out PC games.

Someone should tell them!

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#34 Kinthalis
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[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

Also, the Pc gmaing market is larger than console if include casual gaming portals/social games.

The only way consoles are larger is if you only look at core games: retial + downloads + MMO's.

And even then the COMBINED console revennue is only about 25% larger.

The bottom line is: who cares?

The PC is large enough that almost ALL publishers are putting out PC games.

The Pc gets the best version of multi-plats and has a huge and growing library of exclusives. Including some amazing free to play games.

Some games do better on PC than on console, regardless (Battlefield Bad company 2, Portal 2, Dungeon Defenders, Super MEat boy, and many others outsold consoles on PC).

topgunmv

I think calling 90% of the kinect and wii library "core" is a misnomer.

Exactly, the comparison isn't even fair from that angle. The console has a lot of gamings that appeal to the same social network/casual portal gamers, and yet for some reason they don't "count" when it comes to PC.

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#35 Riverwolf007
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so? the upscale market will always be smaller than the mass market.

pick any consumer product and the same holds true.

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#36 foxhound_fox
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263 million online PC gamers in 2008. www.develop-online.net/news/29331/The-PC-market-is-not-dying-says-newly-formed-PC-Gaming-Alliance Could only be more by now. Doesn't account for offline/SP gamers. Fail.
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#37 dom2000
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Also, the Pc gmaing market is larger than console if include casual gaming portals/social games.

The only way consoles are larger is if you only look at core games: retial + downloads + MMO's.

And even then the COMBINED console revennue is only about 25% larger.

The bottom line is: who cares?

The PC is large enough that almost ALL publishers are putting out PC games.

The Pc gets the best version of multi-plats and has a huge and growing library of exclusives. Including some amazing free to play games.

Some games do better on PC than on console, regardless (Battlefield Bad company 2, Portal 2, Dungeon Defenders, Super MEat boy, and many others outsold consoles on PC).

Kinthalis
For the 1 millionth time...xbox360 version of bc2 out sold the pc by about half a million.....and the VAST majority of multiplats sell significantly more on consoles than pc.....
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#38 with_teeth26
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Wait, how are DD sales irrelivent? Can you explain this? I don't know anyone who buys retail PC games anymore

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#39 CaseyWegner
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and yet it has more high scoring exclusives this generation alone than all three consoles combined. sale must be a very important factor.

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#40 tormentos
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It has been like that for ages.

Torrentsfreaks, a blog that tracks file-sharing, reports that the 2009 best seller Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 for PC was illegally downloaded 4.1 million times last year — compared with 290,000 retail purchases. Here's how the three big gaming platforms have been pillaged by pirates.

http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/04/pl_games_bootleg

And this is one of the biggest reasons ^^ ,MW2 selling 290,000 copies while it was download Gratis 4.1 million times,even the PS3 version eclipse those sales,the xbox 360 version even more,and it was also download 1 million times on 360,remember that this only cover turrents,not News groups or other kinds of sharing files,like direct DL links.

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Also, the Pc gmaing market is larger than console if include casual gaming portals/social games.

The only way consoles are larger is if you only look at core games: retial + downloads + MMO's.

And even then the COMBINED console revennue is only about 25% larger.

The bottom line is: who cares?

The PC is large enough that almost ALL publishers are putting out PC games.

The Pc gets the best version of multi-plats and has a huge and growing library of exclusives. Including some amazing free to play games.

Some games do better on PC than on console, regardless (Battlefield Bad company 2, Portal 2, Dungeon Defenders, Super MEat boy, and many others outsold consoles on PC).

Kinthalis
There's the BS I was waiting on!
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#42 PcGamingRig
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It has been like that for ages.

Torrentsfreaks, a blog that tracks file-sharing, reports that the 2009 best seller Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 for PC was illegally downloaded 4.1 million times last year — compared with 290,000 retail purchases. Here's how the three big gaming platforms have been pillaged by pirates.

http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/04/pl_games_bootleg

And this is one of the biggest reasons ^^ ,MW2 selling 290,000 copies while it was download Gratis 4.1 million times,even the PS3 version eclipse those sales,the xbox 360 version even more,and it was also download 1 million times on 360,remember that this only cover turrents,not News groups or other kinds of sharing files,like direct DL links.

tormentos

lol, MW2 on PC.

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#43 Kinthalis
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[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

Also, the Pc gmaing market is larger than console if include casual gaming portals/social games.

The only way consoles are larger is if you only look at core games: retial + downloads + MMO's.

And even then the COMBINED console revennue is only about 25% larger.

The bottom line is: who cares?

The PC is large enough that almost ALL publishers are putting out PC games.

The Pc gets the best version of multi-plats and has a huge and growing library of exclusives. Including some amazing free to play games.

Some games do better on PC than on console, regardless (Battlefield Bad company 2, Portal 2, Dungeon Defenders, Super MEat boy, and many others outsold consoles on PC).

dom2000

For the 1 millionth time...xbox360 version of bc2 out sold the pc by about half a million.....and the VAST majority of multiplats sell significantly more on consoles than pc.....

Evidence?

And you better not be bringing up no Vg Chartz nonsense.

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#44 Rahnyc4
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im one less console gamer here. im now only a pc gamer and proud...
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#45 Kinthalis
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It has been like that for ages.

Torrentsfreaks, a blog that tracks file-sharing, reports that the 2009 best seller Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 for PC was illegally downloaded 4.1 million times last year — compared with 290,000 retail purchases. Here's how the three big gaming platforms have been pillaged by pirates.

http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/04/pl_games_bootleg

And this is one of the biggest reasons ^^ ,MW2 selling 290,000 copies while it was download Gratis 4.1 million times,even the PS3 version eclipse those sales,the xbox 360 version even more,and it was also download 1 million times on 360,remember that this only cover turrents,not News groups or other kinds of sharing files,like direct DL links.

tormentos

This is defintely true.

The PC market would easily be twice as large if A-hole pirates would support the paltform, instead of stealing. And that's taking into account that not all pirated copies = a lost sale.

The argument that msot don't though is complete BS.

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#46 Spartan070
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

Still remains infinitely superior.

Kinthalis

Infinitely? Hardly...

Infinitely seems to be overkill.

How about, clealry superior ;)

Hmmm...how about slightly more technically impressive?

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from 720p 30fps and no AA to 1080p 60fps and 8xAA ( what a midrange 6870 can achieve in most games ) is not slightly
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#48 Kinthalis
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[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

[QUOTE="Spartan070"] Infinitely? Hardly...

Spartan070

Infinitely seems to be overkill.

How about, clealry superior ;)

Hmmm...how about slightly more technically impressive?

I don't think that flies. It's not just about technical superiority (though that superiority is the msot obvisou, and 10x the pwer fo consoles is not something I would call "slight"), it's also about the trail blazing it's doing in the digital, free ot play, action online, and MMO genres's and mods! And flexibility and options and a ton fo other cool stuff.

It would be like looking at Angelina Jolie and Rosseann Barr and claiming the one was a "slight" improvemet over the other.

People stop takign you seriously at that point.

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#49 fadersdream
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and yet it has more high scoring exclusives this generation alone than all three consoles combined. sale must be a very important factor.

CaseyWegner
Just speaking as a scientist: if the price, games and the systems are superior then what other value is so negative as to drive the majority away?
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#50 Firebird-5
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[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

[QUOTE="Spartan070"] Infinitely? Hardly...

Spartan070

Infinitely seems to be overkill.

How about, clealry superior ;)

Hmmm...how about slightly more technically impressive?

that's rich. you get what you pay for, and it clearly shows.