Let's clarify this about the PC once and for all

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#1  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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I cannot believe I have to actually do this, but apparently, there is actually some confusion about this on System Wars. But the PC is one system. It doesn't matter what OS it is running, it is still the same damn system. A Mac is a PC. A Linux is a PC. Just like your iPhone and Android are both smartphones.

Jesus Christ.

Just to lay it down once and for all, so there is no confusion:

  • Wii U is a separate system
  • PS4 is a separate system
  • Xbox One is a separate system
  • PC (including Windows, Mac, and Linux) is one system for SW purposes. As a matter of fact, the official nomenclature also makes all computers 'PCs' they just happen to be running different OSs. They're all PCs, just as a phone running iOS or Android is still a smartphone.
  • And before this crops up:
    • There is a PlayStation 'ecosystem' This is not 'one system' this is two (or more) separate systems that work in conjunction together.
    • There is an Xbox 'ecosystem' This is not 'one system' this is two (or more) separate systems that work in conjunction together.
    • There is a Nintendo 'ecosystem' This is not 'one system' this is two (or more) separate systems that work in conjunction together.

MOD EDIT:

Okay, I see some of you want to go through this rigmarole again, so I'm going to shut it down right here right now.

For the purposes of System Wars (and in the real world too, if you actually use your head and think about it), the PC is one consolidated system. The PC being one consolidated system does not make all three consoles one consolidated system. This is overall the most asinine argument of all time.

There will be no debate here. This thread is being locked. This is not up for debate, and if this definition doesn't fit with whatever definition you had in mind for each system, well, I'm so sorry then, but that's how we do it on System Wars, and you'll just learn to have to deal with it. That, or you are free to find a forum more suited to your conception of what a system is or isn't.

No more discussion, this is the 57th page of discussion on the same topic, don't you all ever get tired?

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#2 lostrib
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SW continues to set the bar ever so low

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#3 clyde46
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You do know that consollites will continue to do this right?

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#4 lundy86_4
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It's hilarious, because I remember this with the Starcraft 2 posts. Mac had to come in and declare the game as exclusive.

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Seems kind of cheating to include hundreds of different form factors against a single console.

But that's what herms gotta do to win the war, no honor at all.

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@commonfate said:

Seems kind of cheating to include hundreds of different form factors against a single console.

But that's what herms gotta do to win the war, no honor at all.

You are a Tales of fan, nothing you say is valid.

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@commonfate said:

Seems kind of cheating to include hundreds of different form factors against a single console.

But that's what herms gotta do to win the war, no honor at all.

It didn't take long for the whining to start.

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#8 mems_1224
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So an Xbone is a PC? Glad thats cleared up :P

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@charizard1605 said:

@commonfate said:

Seems kind of cheating to include hundreds of different form factors against a single console.

But that's what herms gotta do to win the war, no honor at all.

You are a Tales of fan, nothing you say is valid.

Focus on the post, not the poster.

Just cause you're a mod

dont mean shit

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@clyde46 said:

@commonfate said:

Seems kind of cheating to include hundreds of different form factors against a single console.

But that's what herms gotta do to win the war, no honor at all.

It didn't take long for the whining to start.

Is that a slight against my post? Who exactly is whining here?

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@commonfate said:

@charizard1605 said:

@commonfate said:

Seems kind of cheating to include hundreds of different form factors against a single console.

But that's what herms gotta do to win the war, no honor at all.

You are a Tales of fan, nothing you say is valid.

Focus on the post, not the poster.

Just cause you're a mod

dont mean shit

Sure it does.

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#12 commonfate
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@charizard1605 said:

@commonfate said:

@charizard1605 said:

@commonfate said:

Seems kind of cheating to include hundreds of different form factors against a single console.

But that's what herms gotta do to win the war, no honor at all.

You are a Tales of fan, nothing you say is valid.

Focus on the post, not the poster.

Just cause you're a mod

dont mean shit

Sure it does.

Your posts have no greater weight other than the threat of suspension for disagreeing with you. We are all peasants on this board, together.

___

On topic: Why not use something like Playstation inclusive to indicate it stays in the family rather than specify exemptions each and every time we make note of a special case?

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#13  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@commonfate said:

@charizard1605 said:

@commonfate said:

@charizard1605 said:

@commonfate said:

Seems kind of cheating to include hundreds of different form factors against a single console.

But that's what herms gotta do to win the war, no honor at all.

You are a Tales of fan, nothing you say is valid.

Focus on the post, not the poster.

Just cause you're a mod

dont mean shit

Sure it does.

Your posts have no greater weight other than the threat of suspension for disagreeing with you. We are all peasants on this board, together.

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On topic: Why not use something like Playstation inclusive to indicate it stays in the family rather than specify exemptions each and every time we make note of a special case?

And a permanent ban, don't forget about the permanent ban.

And sure, you can use the term PlayStation exclusive, and it even has some real world weight and value in terms of determining a purchase. If I am picking between Xbox One and PS4, the fact that LittleBigPlanet 3 is on PS3 too (or that Forza Horizon 2 is on Xbox 360 too) will hardly make me discount those games from consideration if they were a factor in my purchase.

That said, for the purposes of the metagame, an exclusive is a game that is available on one system and one system only. So while 'PlayStation exclusive' or 'Nintendo exclusive' or so on may even have some meaning in the real world, on System Wars, it is an irrelevant concept.

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@commonfate said:

@clyde46 said:

@commonfate said:

Seems kind of cheating to include hundreds of different form factors against a single console.

But that's what herms gotta do to win the war, no honor at all.

It didn't take long for the whining to start.

Is that a slight against my post? Who exactly is whining here?

You.

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#15  Edited By zassimick  Moderator
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Haha. My Mac is the same as your customized rig.

Suck it herms. Suck it hard. :'(

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#16  Edited By clyde46
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@Zassimick said:

Haha. My Mac is the same as your customized rig.

Suck it herms. Suck it hard. :'(

My Mac > Your Mac.

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@clyde46 said:

@Zassimick said:

Haha. My Mac is the same as your customized rig.

Suck it herms. Suck it hard. :'(

My Mac > Your Mac.

That's Yosuke!

... wait, you didn't even know what Persona is.

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@charizard1605 said:

@clyde46 said:

@Zassimick said:

Haha. My Mac is the same as your customized rig.

Suck it herms. Suck it hard. :'(

My Mac > Your Mac.

That's Yosuke!

... wait, you didn't even know what Persona is.

Come again?

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@clyde46 said:

@charizard1605 said:

That's Yosuke!

... wait, you didn't even know what Persona is.

Come again?

See, the real tragedy here is you don't even understand the full beauty of the picture you used :(

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#20 TheEroica  Moderator
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Wait so everything on pc is multiplat? I kid I kid... :P

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#21  Edited By lostrib
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@TheEroica: giving me flashbacks :P

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@TheEroica: Times like these I wish I could mod other mods

:p

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#23 PhazonBlazer
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So what you are saying is Yukiko is better than Chie? Got it.

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@PhazonBlazer said:

So what you are saying is Yukiko is better than Chie? Got it.

Stuff like this is what gets you banned.

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#25  Edited By illmatic87
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Yukiko is just straight up nerdbait.

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Yukiko is just straight up nerdbait.

#rekt

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#28  Edited By bbkkristian
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I'm guessing a cow caused this thread.

My more specific guess is that it was either xboxdone's current account, Ps4hasnogames, speak low, or solid_basic.

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#29  Edited By zassimick  Moderator
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@clyde46 said:

My Mac > Your Mac.

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@daforsaken1 said:

why would he even bother??

Not everyone is a peasant like you, Chah.ri.zaaad.

I... see.

@bbkkristian said:

I'm guessing a cow caused this thread.

My more specific guess is that it was either xboxdone's current account, Ps4hasnogames, speak low, or solid_basic.

It was none of those, it was cranler.

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#31  Edited By lostrib
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@bbkkristian said:

I'm guessing a cow caused this thread.

My more specific guess is that it was either xboxdone's current account, Ps4hasnogames, speak low, or solid_basic.

nope, check the PC is the superior platform thread

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#32 bbkkristian
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@charizard1605: @lostrib: I'm shocked.

Oh and Chaz, Phazon, and anyone else in the debate: Yukari Takeba > all Persona 4 girls.

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@bbkkristian: As I said above:

@charizard1605 said:

Stuff like this is what gets you banned.

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#34 commonfate
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@clyde46 said:

@commonfate said:

@clyde46 said:

@commonfate said:

Seems kind of cheating to include hundreds of different form factors against a single console.

But that's what herms gotta do to win the war, no honor at all.

It didn't take long for the whining to start.

Is that a slight against my post? Who exactly is whining here?

You.

Under what basis? Do you consider a voice of dissent whining?

Why not contest my post rather than try to trivialize it?

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@commonfate said:
@clyde46 said:

@commonfate said:

Is that a slight against my post? Who exactly is whining here?

You.

Under what basis? Do you consider a voice of dissent whining?

Why not contest my post rather than try to trivialize it?

Where's the fun in that?

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lol, really funny how this is actually needed. :D

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#37 commonfate
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@lostrib said:

@commonfate said:
@clyde46 said:

@commonfate said:

Is that a slight against my post? Who exactly is whining here?

You.

Under what basis? Do you consider a voice of dissent whining?

Why not contest my post rather than try to trivialize it?

Where's the fun in that?

Because then I might be surprised by a legitimate effort from a regular.

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@charizard1605 said:

@clyde46 said:

@Zassimick said:

Haha. My Mac is the same as your customized rig.

Suck it herms. Suck it hard. :'(

My Mac > Your Mac.

That's Yosuke!

... wait, you didn't even know what Persona is.

Clearly thats Brosuke. Are you blind or just racist?

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@commonfate said:

@charizard1605 said:

@commonfate said:

@charizard1605 said:

@commonfate said:

Seems kind of cheating to include hundreds of different form factors against a single console.

But that's what herms gotta do to win the war, no honor at all.

You are a Tales of fan, nothing you say is valid.

Focus on the post, not the poster.

Just cause you're a mod

dont mean shit

Sure it does.

Your posts have no greater weight other than the threat of suspension for disagreeing with you. We are all peasants on this board, together.

___

On topic: Why not use something like Playstation inclusive to indicate it stays in the family rather than specify exemptions each and every time we make note of a special case?

@commonfate said:

@clyde46 said:

@commonfate said:

Seems kind of cheating to include hundreds of different form factors against a single console.

But that's what herms gotta do to win the war, no honor at all.

It didn't take long for the whining to start.

Is that a slight against my post? Who exactly is whining here?

At first I thought you were making a joke. Then I realized you were serious. Holy balls are you stupid.

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I think the real lesson we all should take from this thread is that Rise is basicly a slut.

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@inb4uall said:

@commonfate said:

@charizard1605 said:

@commonfate said:

@charizard1605 said:

@commonfate said:

Seems kind of cheating to include hundreds of different form factors against a single console.

But that's what herms gotta do to win the war, no honor at all.

You are a Tales of fan, nothing you say is valid.

Focus on the post, not the poster.

Just cause you're a mod

dont mean shit

Sure it does.

Your posts have no greater weight other than the threat of suspension for disagreeing with you. We are all peasants on this board, together.

___

On topic: Why not use something like Playstation inclusive to indicate it stays in the family rather than specify exemptions each and every time we make note of a special case?

@commonfate said:

@clyde46 said:

@commonfate said:

Seems kind of cheating to include hundreds of different form factors against a single console.

But that's what herms gotta do to win the war, no honor at all.

It didn't take long for the whining to start.

Is that a slight against my post? Who exactly is whining here?

At first I thought you were making a joke. Then I realized you were serious. Holy balls are you stupid.

I thought my on topic side note was a clear indication on what and when I considered a serious point of discussion.

It clearly wasn't enough.

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#42  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@darkspineslayer said:

I think the real lesson we all should take from this thread is that Rise is basicly a slut.

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#43  Edited By Cranler
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@commonfate said:

Seems kind of cheating to include hundreds of different form factors against a single console.

But that's what herms gotta do to win the war, no honor at all.

This. Console is fragmented by gens and brands while pc is unified.

Anyways. PC is a system type. A specific pc is a system plain and simple. I guess the biased folks here like to create their own little realities.

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@Zassimick said:

Haha. My Mac is the same as your customized rig.

Suck it herms. Suck it hard. :'(

LMFAO!

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@Cranler said:

@commonfate said:

Seems kind of cheating to include hundreds of different form factors against a single console.

But that's what herms gotta do to win the war, no honor at all.

This. Console is fragmented by gens and brands while pc is unified.

Anyways. PC is a system type. A specific pc is a system plain and simple. I guess the biased folks here like to create their own little realities.

So according the charizard these two desktops are the same system

pretty sure in the other thread it was made clear that this was not up for debate.

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@charizard1605 said:

@darkspineslayer said:

I think the real lesson we all should take from this thread is that Rise is basicly a slut.

Does anyone go for Rise? It doesn't even seem like a challenge

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@daforsaken1 said:

@charizard1605: Aaand one more thing. STOP PUTTING MAC IN PC CATEGORY!!! THAT THING IS SHIT AND EVERYTHING ABOUT THAT IS SHIT AND PEASANT-LIKE!!

Tell me how you really feel, man.

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@daforsaken1 said:

@charizard1605: Aaand one more thing. STOP PUTTING MAC IN PC CATEGORY!!! THAT THING IS SHIT AND EVERYTHING ABOUT THAT IS SHIT AND PEASANT-LIKE!!

yeah but it has an apple on it. That makes it better

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#50  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@lostrib said:

@charizard1605 said:

@darkspineslayer said:

I think the real lesson we all should take from this thread is that Rise is basicly a slut.

Does anyone go for Rise? It doesn't even seem like a challenge

She's the canon pairing (don't see spoilers unless you are past August i.e. in September in Persona 4).

Yu Narukami->Rise

Yosuke->Chie

Kanji->Naoto

Teddie->Yukiko

Although I guess they're trying to change that with the Golden anime, where Marie is replacing Rise as the canonical pairing.