Let's clarify this about the PC once and for all

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#1 Edited by charizard1605 (57130 posts) -

I cannot believe I have to actually do this, but apparently, there is actually some confusion about this on System Wars. But the PC is one system. It doesn't matter what OS it is running, it is still the same damn system. A Mac is a PC. A Linux is a PC. Just like your iPhone and Android are both smartphones.

Jesus Christ.

Just to lay it down once and for all, so there is no confusion:

  • Wii U is a separate system
  • PS4 is a separate system
  • Xbox One is a separate system
  • PC (including Windows, Mac, and Linux) is one system for SW purposes. As a matter of fact, the official nomenclature also makes all computers 'PCs' they just happen to be running different OSs. They're all PCs, just as a phone running iOS or Android is still a smartphone.
  • And before this crops up:
    • There is a PlayStation 'ecosystem' This is not 'one system' this is two (or more) separate systems that work in conjunction together.
    • There is an Xbox 'ecosystem' This is not 'one system' this is two (or more) separate systems that work in conjunction together.
    • There is a Nintendo 'ecosystem' This is not 'one system' this is two (or more) separate systems that work in conjunction together.

MOD EDIT:

Okay, I see some of you want to go through this rigmarole again, so I'm going to shut it down right here right now.

For the purposes of System Wars (and in the real world too, if you actually use your head and think about it), the PC is one consolidated system. The PC being one consolidated system does not make all three consoles one consolidated system. This is overall the most asinine argument of all time.

There will be no debate here. This thread is being locked. This is not up for debate, and if this definition doesn't fit with whatever definition you had in mind for each system, well, I'm so sorry then, but that's how we do it on System Wars, and you'll just learn to have to deal with it. That, or you are free to find a forum more suited to your conception of what a system is or isn't.

No more discussion, this is the 57th page of discussion on the same topic, don't you all ever get tired?

#2 Posted by lostrib (36278 posts) -

SW continues to set the bar ever so low

#3 Posted by clyde46 (46052 posts) -

You do know that consollites will continue to do this right?

#4 Posted by lundy86_4 (43262 posts) -

It's hilarious, because I remember this with the Starcraft 2 posts. Mac had to come in and declare the game as exclusive.

#5 Edited by commonfate (12295 posts) -

Seems kind of cheating to include hundreds of different form factors against a single console.

But that's what herms gotta do to win the war, no honor at all.

#6 Posted by charizard1605 (57130 posts) -

Seems kind of cheating to include hundreds of different form factors against a single console.

But that's what herms gotta do to win the war, no honor at all.

You are a Tales of fan, nothing you say is valid.

#7 Posted by clyde46 (46052 posts) -

Seems kind of cheating to include hundreds of different form factors against a single console.

But that's what herms gotta do to win the war, no honor at all.

It didn't take long for the whining to start.

#8 Posted by mems_1224 (47029 posts) -

So an Xbone is a PC? Glad thats cleared up :P

#9 Posted by commonfate (12295 posts) -

@commonfate said:

Seems kind of cheating to include hundreds of different form factors against a single console.

But that's what herms gotta do to win the war, no honor at all.

You are a Tales of fan, nothing you say is valid.

Focus on the post, not the poster.

Just cause you're a mod

dont mean shit

#10 Posted by commonfate (12295 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

@commonfate said:

Seems kind of cheating to include hundreds of different form factors against a single console.

But that's what herms gotta do to win the war, no honor at all.

It didn't take long for the whining to start.

Is that a slight against my post? Who exactly is whining here?

#11 Posted by charizard1605 (57130 posts) -

@charizard1605 said:

@commonfate said:

Seems kind of cheating to include hundreds of different form factors against a single console.

But that's what herms gotta do to win the war, no honor at all.

You are a Tales of fan, nothing you say is valid.

Focus on the post, not the poster.

Just cause you're a mod

dont mean shit

Sure it does.

#12 Posted by commonfate (12295 posts) -

@commonfate said:

@charizard1605 said:

@commonfate said:

Seems kind of cheating to include hundreds of different form factors against a single console.

But that's what herms gotta do to win the war, no honor at all.

You are a Tales of fan, nothing you say is valid.

Focus on the post, not the poster.

Just cause you're a mod

dont mean shit

Sure it does.

Your posts have no greater weight other than the threat of suspension for disagreeing with you. We are all peasants on this board, together.

___

On topic: Why not use something like Playstation inclusive to indicate it stays in the family rather than specify exemptions each and every time we make note of a special case?

#13 Edited by charizard1605 (57130 posts) -

@commonfate said:

@charizard1605 said:

@commonfate said:

@charizard1605 said:

@commonfate said:

Seems kind of cheating to include hundreds of different form factors against a single console.

But that's what herms gotta do to win the war, no honor at all.

You are a Tales of fan, nothing you say is valid.

Focus on the post, not the poster.

Just cause you're a mod

dont mean shit

Sure it does.

Your posts have no greater weight other than the threat of suspension for disagreeing with you. We are all peasants on this board, together.

___

On topic: Why not use something like Playstation inclusive to indicate it stays in the family rather than specify exemptions each and every time we make note of a special case?

And a permanent ban, don't forget about the permanent ban.

And sure, you can use the term PlayStation exclusive, and it even has some real world weight and value in terms of determining a purchase. If I am picking between Xbox One and PS4, the fact that LittleBigPlanet 3 is on PS3 too (or that Forza Horizon 2 is on Xbox 360 too) will hardly make me discount those games from consideration if they were a factor in my purchase.

That said, for the purposes of the metagame, an exclusive is a game that is available on one system and one system only. So while 'PlayStation exclusive' or 'Nintendo exclusive' or so on may even have some meaning in the real world, on System Wars, it is an irrelevant concept.

#14 Edited by clyde46 (46052 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

@commonfate said:

Seems kind of cheating to include hundreds of different form factors against a single console.

But that's what herms gotta do to win the war, no honor at all.

It didn't take long for the whining to start.

Is that a slight against my post? Who exactly is whining here?

You.

#15 Edited by Zassimick (6469 posts) -

Haha. My Mac is the same as your customized rig.

Suck it herms. Suck it hard. :'(

#16 Edited by clyde46 (46052 posts) -

Haha. My Mac is the same as your customized rig.

Suck it herms. Suck it hard. :'(

My Mac > Your Mac.

#17 Posted by charizard1605 (57130 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

@Zassimick said:

Haha. My Mac is the same as your customized rig.

Suck it herms. Suck it hard. :'(

My Mac > Your Mac.

That's Yosuke!

... wait, you didn't even know what Persona is.

#18 Posted by clyde46 (46052 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

@Zassimick said:

Haha. My Mac is the same as your customized rig.

Suck it herms. Suck it hard. :'(

My Mac > Your Mac.

That's Yosuke!

... wait, you didn't even know what Persona is.

Come again?

#19 Posted by charizard1605 (57130 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

@charizard1605 said:

That's Yosuke!

... wait, you didn't even know what Persona is.

Come again?

See, the real tragedy here is you don't even understand the full beauty of the picture you used :(

#20 Posted by TheEroica (13462 posts) -

Wait so everything on pc is multiplat? I kid I kid... :P

#21 Edited by lostrib (36278 posts) -
#22 Posted by charizard1605 (57130 posts) -

@TheEroica: Times like these I wish I could mod other mods

:p

#23 Posted by PhazonBlazer (11734 posts) -

So what you are saying is Yukiko is better than Chie? Got it.

#24 Posted by charizard1605 (57130 posts) -

So what you are saying is Yukiko is better than Chie? Got it.

Stuff like this is what gets you banned.

#25 Edited by illmatic87 (15221 posts) -

Yukiko is just straight up nerdbait.

#26 Posted by PhazonBlazer (11734 posts) -

Yukiko is just straight up nerdbait.

#rekt

#27 Edited by Daforsaken1 (71 posts) -

@charizard1605 said:

@clyde46 said:

@charizard1605 said:

That's Yosuke!

... wait, you didn't even know what Persona is.

Come again?

See, the real tragedy here is you don't even understand the full beauty of the picture you used :(

why would he even bother??

Not everyone is a peasant like you, Chah.ri.zaaad.

#28 Edited by bbkkristian (14947 posts) -

I'm guessing a cow caused this thread.

My more specific guess is that it was either xboxdone's current account, Ps4hasnogames, speak low, or solid_basic.

#29 Edited by Zassimick (6469 posts) -
#30 Posted by charizard1605 (57130 posts) -

why would he even bother??

Not everyone is a peasant like you, Chah.ri.zaaad.

I... see.

I'm guessing a cow caused this thread.

My more specific guess is that it was either xboxdone's current account, Ps4hasnogames, speak low, or solid_basic.

It was none of those, it was cranler.

#31 Edited by lostrib (36278 posts) -

@bbkkristian said:

I'm guessing a cow caused this thread.

My more specific guess is that it was either xboxdone's current account, Ps4hasnogames, speak low, or solid_basic.

nope, check the PC is the superior platform thread

#32 Posted by bbkkristian (14947 posts) -

@charizard1605: @lostrib: I'm shocked.

Oh and Chaz, Phazon, and anyone else in the debate: Yukari Takeba > all Persona 4 girls.

#33 Posted by charizard1605 (57130 posts) -
#34 Posted by commonfate (12295 posts) -
@clyde46 said:

@commonfate said:

@clyde46 said:

@commonfate said:

Seems kind of cheating to include hundreds of different form factors against a single console.

But that's what herms gotta do to win the war, no honor at all.

It didn't take long for the whining to start.

Is that a slight against my post? Who exactly is whining here?

You.

Under what basis? Do you consider a voice of dissent whining?

Why not contest my post rather than try to trivialize it?

#35 Posted by lostrib (36278 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

@commonfate said:

Is that a slight against my post? Who exactly is whining here?

You.

Under what basis? Do you consider a voice of dissent whining?

Why not contest my post rather than try to trivialize it?

Where's the fun in that?

#36 Posted by harry_james_pot (10795 posts) -

lol, really funny how this is actually needed. :D

#37 Posted by commonfate (12295 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@commonfate said:
@clyde46 said:

@commonfate said:

Is that a slight against my post? Who exactly is whining here?

You.

Under what basis? Do you consider a voice of dissent whining?

Why not contest my post rather than try to trivialize it?

Where's the fun in that?

Because then I might be surprised by a legitimate effort from a regular.

#38 Posted by mems_1224 (47029 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

@Zassimick said:

Haha. My Mac is the same as your customized rig.

Suck it herms. Suck it hard. :'(

My Mac > Your Mac.

That's Yosuke!

... wait, you didn't even know what Persona is.

Clearly thats Brosuke. Are you blind or just racist?

#39 Posted by inb4uall (5513 posts) -

@charizard1605 said:

@commonfate said:

@charizard1605 said:

@commonfate said:

Seems kind of cheating to include hundreds of different form factors against a single console.

But that's what herms gotta do to win the war, no honor at all.

You are a Tales of fan, nothing you say is valid.

Focus on the post, not the poster.

Just cause you're a mod

dont mean shit

Sure it does.

Your posts have no greater weight other than the threat of suspension for disagreeing with you. We are all peasants on this board, together.

___

On topic: Why not use something like Playstation inclusive to indicate it stays in the family rather than specify exemptions each and every time we make note of a special case?

@clyde46 said:

@commonfate said:

Seems kind of cheating to include hundreds of different form factors against a single console.

But that's what herms gotta do to win the war, no honor at all.

It didn't take long for the whining to start.

Is that a slight against my post? Who exactly is whining here?

At first I thought you were making a joke. Then I realized you were serious. Holy balls are you stupid.

#40 Posted by darkspineslayer (19637 posts) -

I think the real lesson we all should take from this thread is that Rise is basicly a slut.

#41 Posted by commonfate (12295 posts) -

@inb4uall said:

@commonfate said:

@charizard1605 said:

@commonfate said:

@charizard1605 said:

@commonfate said:

Seems kind of cheating to include hundreds of different form factors against a single console.

But that's what herms gotta do to win the war, no honor at all.

You are a Tales of fan, nothing you say is valid.

Focus on the post, not the poster.

Just cause you're a mod

dont mean shit

Sure it does.

Your posts have no greater weight other than the threat of suspension for disagreeing with you. We are all peasants on this board, together.

___

On topic: Why not use something like Playstation inclusive to indicate it stays in the family rather than specify exemptions each and every time we make note of a special case?

@commonfate said:

@clyde46 said:

@commonfate said:

Seems kind of cheating to include hundreds of different form factors against a single console.

But that's what herms gotta do to win the war, no honor at all.

It didn't take long for the whining to start.

Is that a slight against my post? Who exactly is whining here?

At first I thought you were making a joke. Then I realized you were serious. Holy balls are you stupid.

I thought my on topic side note was a clear indication on what and when I considered a serious point of discussion.

It clearly wasn't enough.

#42 Edited by charizard1605 (57130 posts) -

I think the real lesson we all should take from this thread is that Rise is basicly a slut.

#43 Edited by Cranler (8809 posts) -

@commonfate said:

Seems kind of cheating to include hundreds of different form factors against a single console.

But that's what herms gotta do to win the war, no honor at all.

This. Console is fragmented by gens and brands while pc is unified.

Anyways. PC is a system type. A specific pc is a system plain and simple. I guess the biased folks here like to create their own little realities.

#44 Posted by Cranler (8809 posts) -

Haha. My Mac is the same as your customized rig.

Suck it herms. Suck it hard. :'(

LMFAO!

#45 Posted by lostrib (36278 posts) -

@Cranler said:

@commonfate said:

Seems kind of cheating to include hundreds of different form factors against a single console.

But that's what herms gotta do to win the war, no honor at all.

This. Console is fragmented by gens and brands while pc is unified.

Anyways. PC is a system type. A specific pc is a system plain and simple. I guess the biased folks here like to create their own little realities.

So according the charizard these two desktops are the same system

pretty sure in the other thread it was made clear that this was not up for debate.

#46 Posted by Daforsaken1 (71 posts) -

@charizard1605: Aaand one more thing. STOP PUTTING MAC IN PC CATEGORY!!! THAT THING IS SHIT AND EVERYTHING ABOUT THAT IS SHIT AND PEASANT-LIKE!!

#47 Posted by lostrib (36278 posts) -

@darkspineslayer said:

I think the real lesson we all should take from this thread is that Rise is basicly a slut.

Does anyone go for Rise? It doesn't even seem like a challenge

#48 Posted by charizard1605 (57130 posts) -

@charizard1605: Aaand one more thing. STOP PUTTING MAC IN PC CATEGORY!!! THAT THING IS SHIT AND EVERYTHING ABOUT THAT IS SHIT AND PEASANT-LIKE!!

Tell me how you really feel, man.

#49 Posted by lostrib (36278 posts) -

@charizard1605: Aaand one more thing. STOP PUTTING MAC IN PC CATEGORY!!! THAT THING IS SHIT AND EVERYTHING ABOUT THAT IS SHIT AND PEASANT-LIKE!!

yeah but it has an apple on it. That makes it better

#50 Edited by charizard1605 (57130 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@charizard1605 said:

@darkspineslayer said:

I think the real lesson we all should take from this thread is that Rise is basicly a slut.

Does anyone go for Rise? It doesn't even seem like a challenge

She's the canon pairing (don't see spoilers unless you are past August i.e. in September in Persona 4).

Yu Narukami->Rise

Yosuke->Chie

Kanji->Naoto

Teddie->Yukiko

Although I guess they're trying to change that with the Golden anime, where Marie is replacing Rise as the canonical pairing.