If you wii haters are 'real gamers', here are some 'real games' (no 56k)

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6. Metroid Prime 3: Corruption

Another big hitter which I don't need to explain. One thing though: If one more person tells me that stacking beams and transforming into a super form is 'casual', I won't be responsible for my actions.0rin

I think a person who needs online in a FPS to have fun is a casual....

That list just isnt good.

most of them look like kids game.

nintendo is ruining gaming.

tree-branch

How old are you? Aren't you like 15 or 16? Who cares what it looks like, it's about the gameplay.

Some look good, some look meh. Simple as that. Impex

I seriously doubt that most people here play all genres. Only a rare few could be expected to like ALL the games on there.

[QUOTE="SH_guY"]its an ok list.. but again theres only like 3 - 4 games i want on it. not enough justification to buy one yet :(subrosian

Solution: make a forum post with pictures of Metroid Prime, Dewy's Adventure, and Dragon Quest: Swords

Frankly, it simply validates the viewpoint it's trying to disprove - that is - it shows that the Wii focuses greatly on non-traditional gamers and casuals, with very little focus on the core gamer. We are picking the gems out of the trash pile. The best defense of the Wii would be to show the core titles on their own, without trying to shove questionable titles onto the list, or trying to debate semantics with dissenters.

how is that any different than what video games have been for the last decade? The PS2 had what, 30, quality core games in it's entire life span? Those were the gems. The rest was trash numbering in the thousnads. The type of trash on the PS2 was movie games and games based off of nicktoons or GTA rip-offs.

The diffrence here is:

1 - The Wii has not been out for even a year

2 - Alot of the titles that core gamers are calling trash are actually well made. They may not appeal to you, but the wii series and brain age and mario kart and such are really well made games. They are not low-budjet quick cash in trash made by teams with little to no talent. They have had a ton of effort put into them and from the perspective of a non-gamer, they are exactly what they are looking for and are the definition of quality.

Sure, the wii will always have those cheap movie multi-plats, and the ports have been really annoying. But the ports will slow down.

Honestly, you're making way to big of a deal out of this.

*IN B4 the "list is crap"- posts*magiciandude

That list just isnt good.

most of them look like kids game.

nintendo is ruining gaming.

tree-branch

XD

[QUOTE="subrosian"]

[QUOTE="SH_guY"]its an ok list.. but again theres only like 3 - 4 games i want on it. not enough justification to buy one yet :(goblaa

Solution: make a forum post with pictures of Metroid Prime, Dewy's Adventure, and Dragon Quest: Swords

Frankly, it simply validates the viewpoint it's trying to disprove - that is - it shows that the Wii focuses greatly on non-traditional gamers and casuals, with very little focus on the core gamer. We are picking the gems out of the trash pile. The best defense of the Wii would be to show the core titles on their own, without trying to shove questionable titles onto the list, or trying to debate semantics with dissenters.

how is that any different than what video games have been for the last decade? The PS2 had what, 30, quality core games in it's entire life span? Those were the gems. The rest was trash numbering in the thousnads. The type of trash on the PS2 was movie games and games based off of nicktoons or GTA rip-offs.

The diffrence here is:

1 - The Wii has not been out for even a year

2 - Alot of the titles that core gamers are calling trash are actually well made. They may not appeal to you, but the wii series and brain age and mario kart and such are really well made games. They are not low-budjet quick cash in trash made by teams with little to no talent. They have had a ton of effort put into them and from the perspective of a non-gamer, they are exactly what they are looking for and are the definition of quality.

Sure, the wii will always have those cheap movie multi-plats, and the ports have been really annoying. But the ports will slow down.

Honestly, you're making way to big of a deal out of this.

You completely missed the point - you see this as cool because you support the Wii and see those as good games. Subrosian wasn't being mean, he's just pointing out that you should consider your audience when you try and show people they're wrong. He's right.

For example, Nintendo showed older gamers stuff like Wii Sports and Wii Fitness, because they know that maybe a mom who's trying to get her figure back might like a fun way to exercise, you wouldn't want to market an FPS game to her, for example.

So here, if the TC wants to convince hardcore gamers the Wii is good, he shouldn't have *any* of those games that hardcore gamers dislike on the list. Does that make sense? You sell beef-lovers a cheeseburger, not a chicken sandwich!

[QUOTE="SH_guY"]its an ok list.. but again theres only like 3 - 4 games i want on it. not enough justification to buy one yet :(subrosian

Solution: make a forum post with pictures of Metroid Prime, Dewy's Adventure, and Dragon Quest: Swords

Frankly, it simply validates the viewpoint it's trying to disprove - that is - it shows that the Wii focuses greatly on non-traditional gamers and casuals, with very little focus on the core gamer. We are picking the gems out of the trash pile. The best defense of the Wii would be to show the core titles on their own, without trying to shove questionable titles onto the list, or trying to debate semantics with dissenters.

I know those are all real games, though it's too bad they have to be so ugly. Why couldn't the wii have been half as powerful as the 360 :cry:munu9

lol! they all look like cartoonsjudge__judy

Bulb or parrot: to use your analogy he is giving the burger and the chicken sandwich. Those games span several genres. And I don't even try to define hardcore and try to stay out of arguments involving it. I think we need casey to make a sticky for discussion of it so the great arguments don't pop up in random places like this thread. P.S. TC we need more fire emblem hype best turn based strategy I've ever played.grapefruit21

That list just isnt good.

most of them look like kids game.

nintendo is ruining gaming.

tree-branch

If they are ruining gaming, then why are they leading in sales?? Nintendo made games accessible to everyone and made games fun for everyone and not just the hardcore people. They re ignited the gaming industry. They are certainly not ruining gaming, they are increasing it, dramatically.

[QUOTE="grapefruit21"]Bulb or parrot: to use your analogy he is giving the burger and the chicken sandwich. Those games span several genres. And I don't even try to define hardcore and try to stay out of arguments involving it. I think we need casey to make a sticky for discussion of it so the great arguments don't pop up in random places like this thread. P.S. TC we need more fire emblem hype best turn based strategy I've ever played.subrosian

[QUOTE="munu9"]I know those are all real games, though it's too bad they have to be so ugly. Why couldn't the wii have been half as powerful as the 360 :cry:Wemhim256

That's were little big planet and ratchet and clank future come in for the ps3 :)