How the Wii Mostly Dominated This Generation; WTFMYTIGTART Edition

Bravo old chap, bravo. *golf clap*

Oh my god, it's nice to read an OP that didn't boil down to a Fanboy rant. That's always refreshing seeing how rare they're getting. I agree. The Wii was an experience. It's online was beyond primitive and the third-party was nearly non-existant, but the system could differentiate. It had that old Nintendo charm, the way I see it.

And to prove I read the whole thing, you mispelled SystemWarriors at the end.

The Wii was obviously a success when it comes to sales and it beat out the PS3 and 360.

When it comes to games it's all down to preference of course, but the Wii had a decent library of games, from retail to the Virtual console/Wiiware. Whether or not it is the best console this gen is all up to the individual, but whatever the case it was still a good system with some great games.

Eariler this gen I didn't think stevo would ever praise the Wii. :P

But yeah Nintendo clearly won in consoles and hendhelds. Still those gaming droughts sucked but at least it made me really get into PC gaming.

Eariler this gen I didn't think stevo would ever praise the Wii. :P

But yeah Nintendo clearly won in consoles and hendhelds. Still those gaming droughts sucked but at least it made me really get into PC gaming.

Seabas989

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Where the Wii Succeeded: Bringing All Gamers to the Table

Yes, the Wii was and is widely known to be a casual friendly system--one that used to heavily critique the system for being too "childish" or "kiddy" for the supposed real gamers out there. The Wii succeeded in bringing the casual demographic and the non-gaming demographics to the table in rapid fashion to the point of downright hysteria. The Wii proved to be a huge success from 2006 through 2009 where it literally flew off the shelves. The system offered its fair share of gaming friendly titles to all forms of gamers, but it also showcased to be a great avenue for core gamers who enjoyed niche products and some of the most polished games around--looking at you Super Mario Galaxy.

Where the Wii Failed: Alienating Some Gamers

True, the Wii didn't have "it all" so this point is rather obvious in that Nintendo couldn't deliver a lot of core titles that released on the PC and HD Twins. Not because of different control schemes, but simply because the Wii's hardware was too lacking for these games to properly function. There's some exceptions to this as Dead Rising released on the Wii in an extrodinarily un-fun and limited experience but there's also some gems as well such as Tiger Woods PGA Tour which proved to be better on the Wii. Yes, the Xbox 360 and PS3 were largely the same experience wrapped up in different boxes but the Wii differentiated itself. It was different. This wasn't next-generation material, it was new generation material.

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Stevo_the_gamer

You contradict yourself with these two paragraphs, but it should be quite clear that the Wii did a poor job at attracting a core audience, when looking at the sales of most core titles.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

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Where the Wii Succeeded: Bringing All Gamers to the Table

Yes, the Wii was and is widely known to be a casual friendly system--one that used to heavily critique the system for being too "childish" or "kiddy" for the supposed real gamers out there. The Wii succeeded in bringing the casual demographic and the non-gaming demographics to the table in rapid fashion to the point of downright hysteria. The Wii proved to be a huge success from 2006 through 2009 where it literally flew off the shelves. The system offered its fair share of gaming friendly titles to all forms of gamers, but it also showcased to be a great avenue for core gamers who enjoyed niche products and some of the most polished games around--looking at you Super Mario Galaxy.

Where the Wii Failed: Alienating Some Gamers

True, the Wii didn't have "it all" so this point is rather obvious in that Nintendo couldn't deliver a lot of core titles that released on the PC and HD Twins. Not because of different control schemes, but simply because the Wii's hardware was too lacking for these games to properly function. There's some exceptions to this as Dead Rising released on the Wii in an extrodinarily un-fun and limited experience but there's also some gems as well such as Tiger Woods PGA Tour which proved to be better on the Wii. Yes, the Xbox 360 and PS3 were largely the same experience wrapped up in different boxes but the Wii differentiated itself. It was different. This wasn't next-generation material, it was new generation material.

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opex07

You contradict yourself with these two paragraphs, but it should be quite clear that the Wii did a poor job at attracting a core audience, when looking at the sales of most core titles.

The Wii's core titles sold poorly? Mario Galaxy and New Super Mario Bros Wii sold 35 million copies combined between the two.

You contradict yourself with these two paragraphs, but it should be quite clear that the Wii did a poor job at attracting a core audience, when looking at the sales of most core titles.

opex07

It dominated in sales. It dominated in sales because of the high quality exclusives. So that's why.

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"][QUOTE="Michael0134567"] Another fine fanboy.Michael0134567

:lol:Too true.

The Wii is really an oddball that broke many rules in gaming.

In other gens the winner always had the most sales and a top games library. But this gen the Wii only had the sales.

wii didnt have : fallout 3 , oblivion , skyrim , new vegas , bioshock 1 & 2 , mass effect series , dead space 1 & 2 , resident evil 5 , borderlands , arkham asylum & city , gta IV , saints row series , deus X human revolution , soul calibur 4 & 5 , crysis series , red dead redemption , street fighter/tekken , assasins creed series , FFXII 2 , max payne 3 , new mortal kombat , its just what comes to my mind theres lots more and im counting only multiplats of xbox/ps3

it won't have: borderlands 2 , assasins creed 3 , resident evil 6 , crysis 3 , far cry 3 , bioshock infinite , dead space 3 .... wait will it have any new games at all at this point ?

you may praise your wii as much as you want with sales and questionable exclusives , but it shouldnt be even compared to xbox or ps3 because of its unresponsive controls , lacking HD , worse sound quality , no online plattform which is worth mentioning , no patches and additional content (refering to the good ones) , and most importantly it didnt have the best games of this generation , in my opinion it should be disqualified from the gen because it didnt meet the minimal standards of it :D

the best games ive played on the wii were : zelda TP , okami , resident evil 4 which are all last gen ports , that speaks for itself

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"] We're all fanboys, I'm not the one thats in denial though. Chemical_Viking

:lol:Too true.

I read all the OP :P As a gamer, I disagree. Wii is a disaster of a console, and is only defensible if you start with "Well I obviously also have a PC/360/PS3 for multiplats..." Otherwise you missed all the best 3rd party games this gen, which any gamer would be insane to do. Those crappy 7.0 exclusive games from D list devs don't cut it. The Wii vs either of the other two consoles can be summed up by my good friend The Batman: 360/PS3 both got Batman Arkham Asylum and Batman Arkham City, both AAA games and arguable GOTY contenders. The Wii got Batman: The Brave and The Bold, a 7.0 button bashing side scroller that is comparable to a typical Xbox Live Arcade game such as Castle Crashers or The Dishwasher. If you want to live in a world where Arkham Asylum and Arkham City "don't count" but a game like The Brave and the Bold is held up as a triumph, then go right ahead. Actual sane gamers won't :Plocopatho

There is something wrong in your premise, just get an additional console, you are putting consoles on a pedestal. Say you own a 360, wtf is it so hard to pay $250 for 10+ amazing exclusives?

Your entire argument is highly theoretical, in reality it's not feasible for Nintendo, a gaming only company, to release a high end machine that has the capability to run PS3/360 multiplats (which people don't want in the first place looking at 3rd party sales on N64 and GC), for reasons we've been going through many times before.

It's either Wii or a meh system (like the GC) which would be the end of Nintendo home consoles. Nintendo tried that route dude, it doesn't work, they have tried story, cutscenes and voice acting in a 3D Mario game (Sunshine). Nintendo and western type of gaming doesn't get along very well.

The bottom line is Nintendo isn't trying to provide something that is comparable to the HD twins, they are giving consumers an alternative, both cheap and unique (until they copied), hence why most people recommend Wii60 or PSWii combo over PS360, You get one of the HD twins, and if Wii interests you, get it. It's not a question of, hmm, do I get Wii OR PS3 OR 360? That's, extremely put, like saying should I get an iPhone or an iPad, which is the better?! (they are different things to a degree)

[QUOTE="locopatho"]I read all the OP :P As a gamer, I disagree. Wii is a disaster of a console, and is only defensible if you start with "Well I obviously also have a PC/360/PS3 for multiplats..." Otherwise you missed all the best 3rd party games this gen, which any gamer would be insane to do. Those crappy 7.0 exclusive games from D list devs don't cut it. The Wii vs either of the other two consoles can be summed up by my good friend The Batman: 360/PS3 both got Batman Arkham Asylum and Batman Arkham City, both AAA games and arguable GOTY contenders. The Wii got Batman: The Brave and The Bold, a 7.0 button bashing side scroller that is comparable to a typical Xbox Live Arcade game such as Castle Crashers or The Dishwasher. If you want to live in a world where Arkham Asylum and Arkham City "don't count" but a game like The Brave and the Bold is held up as a triumph, then go right ahead. Actual sane gamers won't :PSuperFlakeman

There is something wrong in your premise, just get an additional console, you are putting consoles on a pedestal. Say you own a 360, wtf is it so hard to pay $250 for 10+ amazing exclusives?

Your entire argument is highly theoretical, in reality it's not feasible for Nintendo, a gaming only company, to release a high end machine that has the capability to run PS3/360 multiplats (which people don't want in the first place looking at 3rd party sales on N64 and GC), for reasons we've been going through many times before.

It's either Wii or a meh system (like the GC) which would be the end of Nintendo home consoles. Nintendo tried that route dude, it doesn't work, they have tried story, cutscenes and voice acting in a 3D Mario game (Sunshine). Nintendo and western type of gaming doesn't get along very well.

The bottom line is Nintendo isn't trying to provide something that is comparable to the HD twins, they are giving consumers an alternative, both cheap and unique (until they copied), hence why most people recommend Wii60 or PSWii combo over PS360, You get one of the HD twins, and if Wii interests you, get it. It's not a question of, hmm, do I get Wii OR PS3 OR 360? That's, extremely put, like saying should I get an iPhone or an iPad, which is the better?! (they are different things to a degree)

U know, the Wii might have won in overall console sales, but like other users have pointed out it has piss poor software sales. The only games that people played were Wii sports and Wii Fit. Basically when the novelty of the motion controls wore off nobody gave 2 sh!ts about the wii and the crappy software sales prove it.

U know, the Wii might have won in overall console sales, but like other users have pointed out it has piss poor software sales. Hell the only games that people really played on the thing was wii sports or wii fit. Hell I still buy games and actively play games on my PS3 and 360, while our wii just sits in the back room collecting dust.

comptonst88

[QUOTE="comptonst88"]

U know, the Wii might have won in overall console sales, but like other users have pointed out it has piss poor software sales. Hell the only games that people really played on the thing was wii sports or wii fit. Hell I still buy games and actively play games on my PS3 and 360, while our wii just sits in the back room collecting dust.

WiiUnited

[QUOTE="WiiUnited"][QUOTE="comptonst88"]

U know, the Wii might have won in overall console sales, but like other users have pointed out it has piss poor software sales. Hell the only games that people really played on the thing was wii sports or wii fit. Hell I still buy games and actively play games on my PS3 and 360, while our wii just sits in the back room collecting dust.

comptonst88

Dont mind him, he's just a delusional sheep seeking attention.

The Wii's core titles sold poorly? Mario Galaxy and New Super Mario Bros Wii sold 35 million copies combined between the two.

WiiCubeM1

I said most core titles, not all, but besides Nintendo's well known titles, most titles failed to make a splash in sales. Publishers have shown that they will go pretty far this generation to make some money, especially looking at Activision and EA, but most of them avoided making serious games for the Wii, due to the fact that the audience isnt really there, this will be the first time that a console with the most sales will have recieved the least amount of support.

[QUOTE="WiiUnited"][QUOTE="comptonst88"]

U know, the Wii might have won in overall console sales, but like other users have pointed out it has piss poor software sales. Hell the only games that people really played on the thing was wii sports or wii fit. Hell I still buy games and actively play games on my PS3 and 360, while our wii just sits in the back room collecting dust.

comptonst88

wii didnt have : fallout 3 , oblivion , skyrim , new vegas , bioshock 1 & 2 , mass effect series , dead space 1 & 2 , resident evil 5 , borderlands , arkham asylum & city , gta IV , saints row series , deus X human revolution , soul calibur 4 & 5 , crysis series , red dead redemption , street fighter/tekken , assasins creed series , FFXII 2 , max payne 3 , new mortal kombat , its just what comes to my mind theres lots more and im counting only multiplats of xbox/ps3

it won't have: borderlands 2 , assasins creed 3 , resident evil 6 , crysis 3 , far cry 3 , bioshock infinite , dead space 3 .... wait will it have any new games at all at this point ?

you may praise your wii as much as you want with sales and questionable exclusives , but it shouldnt be even compared to xbox or ps3 because of its unresponsive controls , lacking HD , worse sound quality , no online plattform which is worth mentioning , no patches and additional content (refering to the good ones) , and most importantly it didnt have the best games of this generation , in my opinion it should be disqualified from the gen because it didnt meet the minimal standards of it :D

the best games ive played on the wii were : zelda TP , okami , resident evil 4 which are all last gen ports , that speaks for itself

AmnesiaHaze

It didn't need to. It missed out on multiplats, but the other consoles missed out on it's exclusives.

That's because a new console was announced last year. Support drops at that point. Those games are only coming to the current console market because Sony and MS are too damn stubborn to develop a new console.

Unresponsive controls comes from the developer, not the platform. Lacking HD isn't a big issue when so many games on consoles fail to even reach 720p. It's not worse sound quality, it's less channels since it only supports stereo. That's pretty much the only area Nintendo failed in this gen, but the 3DS shows they know what they're doing. Their games didn't need patching or DLC because they don't release broken and unfinished games like the other two do all the time. :D

That's says you didn't play enough Wii games. RE4 does beat most games this generation too.

Lol Wii

I READ TEH WHOLE FRIGGN' THING. Now do I get a cookie?:oops:

Also I agree with TC. The wii had sales, which I put little stock in but apperently maters a great deal to SW, and it also had the exclusives which are undenably what matters most. Not graphics or power. It's all about the Games and that is where the Wii dominated 1st party games.

[QUOTE="opex07"]

You contradict yourself with these two paragraphs, but it should be quite clear that the Wii did a poor job at attracting a core audience, when looking at the sales of most core titles.

Stevo_the_gamer

The Wii dominated in sales and exclusives and fanboys are the only ones that will deny this.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="comptonst88"] Yeah one game sold really well on it considering it was packaged with the damn console.comptonst88

Mario Galaxy sold 10 million, Galaxy 2 sold 6 million, NSMBW sold 25 Million, Skyward Sword sold 3 million, Twilight Princess sold 6 1/2 million, Wii Sports Resort sold 30 million, Super Paper Mario sold 3 million, and Brawl Sold 11 million. Wii Sports beat them all with roughly 67 million copies sold, making it the best selling game of all time, even more than Super Mario Bros.

For comparison, the 3 best selling games on the PS3 were all Call of Duty titles, then GTAIV, then the best selling first-party title, Gran Tursimo 5. They sold 12, 11, 10,9, and 7 million (respectively).

The best selling 360 titles were Kinect Adventures (So the casual argument goes to you to, lems) with 16 million, then MW3, BO, and MW2, each selling 14, 13, and 12 million respectively, and then Halo 3 with 11 1/2 million.

I didn't put this up for any specific reason, just laying the numbers out there. Do what you people will with them.

the wii dominated by

1 selling the most -to a company this is what matters most-profitability

2 -a steller line up of awsome killer first party and improved third party support- compared to n64 gc ,

3 it was the family system , pure fact and it is for fact number 2 and 3 , that the wii is my 3rd favorite platform of all time which this top 5 list is

1-snes

2 nes

3 wii

4 ps1

5 n64/xbox tie

Had to check the bets list to make sure this wasn't a punishment or something. =P

Anyway, no arguments here. Nintendo did really well this generation, especially when you take the DS into consideration. Surprised to say this, but I've actually enjoyed the exclusives the Wii has offered more than what has been offered on the PS3 and 360.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="opex07"]

You contradict yourself with these two paragraphs, but it should be quite clear that the Wii did a poor job at attracting a core audience, when looking at the sales of most core titles.

opex07

Had to check the bets list to make sure this wasn't a punishment or something. =P

Anyway, no arguments here. Nintendo did really well this generation, especially when you take the DS into consideration. Surprised to say this, but I've actually enjoyed the exclusives the Wii has offered more than what has been offered on the PS3 and 360.

Kuromino

Console sales wise, it straight up ANNIHILATE competitors. Games wise, it's at the bottom of the trash bin.

Btw,

The Wii didn't win anything, except for maybe the award for most gimmicky games. Jethawk11

Graphs of Nintendo's "winning" (Microsoft is on the left)

The wii didn't win in exclusives. Games are rated relative the platform and wii clearly has lower standards. Ps3 exclusives are talke about all the time, while thed wii ones are hardly mentioned on the interwebz. Sushiglutton

[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]The wii didn't win in exclusives. Games are rated relative the platform and wii clearly has lower standards. Ps3 exclusives are talke about all the time, while thed wii ones are hardly mentioned on the interwebz. Bigboi500