How powerful do you think the WiiU will be?

You know, IF (yes a big if) microsoft and sony are actually deciding to go the wii route, or to have very prolonged life cycles for their current consoles, then I feel a whole lot better for the chances of the Wii U.

It will be somewhere between 360/PS3 and High end PC :P is this answer accurate enough?

Isn't it already official that it's going to use a AMD R770 based GPU?

If that's the case, I don't see the need to speculate. It'll be about as powerful as a three year old high-end PC and much more powerful than the 360/PS3.

Barely more powerful than the PS3/Xbox 360. It's clearly not a 'next gen' system in terms of hardware. It's 'next gen' in terms of name only just like the Wii.KC_Hokie

dual core Intel pentuim 2.4ghz and maybe a 4850 are my guesses.Fightingfan

It has better hardware, but not by far and there will be a time until they optimize and fully take advantage of it, so it does not matter since PS4 and xbox 720 will be around before or by the time the difference is starting to show

About twice aspowerful as 360 and PS3.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Barely more powerful than the PS3/Xbox 360. It's clearly not a 'next gen' system in terms of hardware. It's 'next gen' in terms of name only just like the Wii.Crystal-Rush

I cant say that the first game shown shows anywhere close to PS3 visuals, this seems like a Wii game more than anything

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p99ghcy450E

Mediocre graphics by any standards, looks close to mediocre Wii graphics, maybe Nintendo has really low hardware there

I think it will surpass both the PS3 and 360 simply because I believe Nintendo will achieve 1080p and 60 fps in its games which neither the 360 or PS3 could. Also with such hardware prowess, the WiiU unlike the Wii will get support of the big devs and their big franchises like an actual Madden, BF3, CoD, RE and others.

Wasn't Nintendo downplaying the power of the Wii-U?

"So I don't know that we would be able to sit here and say that it's going to necessarily dramatically outperform the systems that are out now."link.

I think the main advantage will be less blurry and more defined visuals which comes with true HD gaming and the usual Nintendo polish with the exclusives. It won't be the generational jump some people are hoping for and it probably won't hold up against Sony and Microsoft's next gen offerings.

#3. I don't think Nintendo cares about "gens" anymore. They've failed miserably when trying to compete with Sony directly, so they went an alternate route. I am glad they've found a new market and a have been succesful again.

That being said, the majority of WiiU stuff I saw either looked like Wii stuff already available or has been confirmed to be PS3/360 footage, whcih doesn't make me expect much out of their next gen system.

I mean, if it was significantly more powerful than the PS3/360, why not show PC footage. If not, then they are only just getting into this gen as far as I'm concerned.

To put things into perspective, let's take a look at these charts.

Even the worst card in that round-up, the 9600GT, is substantially better than the 360 and PS3 GPUs (Radeon X1900/GeForce 7800GTX respectively).

Of course, we can't know for sure that the Wii U houses a 4870, but it's most likely something similar, and, as shown above, you just can't compare it to the other consoles' GPUs.

To put things into perspective, let's take a look at these charts.

Even the worst card in that round-up, the 9600GT, is substantially better than the 360 and PS3 GPUs (Radeon X1900/GeForce 7800GTX respectively).

Of course, we can't know for sure that the Wii U houses a 4870, but it's most likely something similar, and, as shown above, you just can't compare it to the other consoles' GPUs.

the_delta

I have a ATI 5400 and is really far behond xbox360 in performance, so there is hardware that is weaker out there and cheap so they dont have some huge price for WiiU, considering the 6'' screen would already be huge in price

I cant say that the first game shown shows anywhere close to PS3 visuals, this seems like a Wii game more than anything

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p99ghcy450E

Mediocre graphics by any standards, looks close to mediocre Wii graphics, maybe Nintendo has really low hardware there

loosingENDS

That's an extremely early WIP game. It doesn't show the full potential.

And your 5400 card was designed for 1080p decoding and audio over HDMI. It wasn't meant for heavy duty 3d applications. It's an HTPC card, not a gaming card.

[QUOTE="the_delta"]

To put things into perspective, let's take a look at these charts.

Even the worst card in that round-up, the 9600GT, is substantially better than the 360 and PS3 GPUs (Radeon X1900/GeForce 7800GTX respectively).

Of course, we can't know for sure that the Wii U houses a 4870, but it's most likely something similar, and, as shown above, you just can't compare it to the other consoles' GPUs.

loosingENDS

I have a ATI 5400 and is really far behond xbox360 in performance, so there is hardware that is weaker out there and cheap so they dont have some huge price for WiiU, considering the 6'' screen would already be huge in price

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="the_delta"]

To put things into perspective, let's take a look at these charts.

Even the worst card in that round-up, the 9600GT, is substantially better than the 360 and PS3 GPUs (Radeon X1900/GeForce 7800GTX respectively).

Of course, we can't know for sure that the Wii U houses a 4870, but it's most likely something similar, and, as shown above, you just can't compare it to the other consoles' GPUs.

ronvalencia

I have a ATI 5400 and is really far behond xbox360 in performance, so there is hardware that is weaker out there and cheap so they dont have some huge price for WiiU, considering the 6'' screen would already be huge in price

Considering the tiny size of WiiU, i suppose will have something like that card

Still behind. If microsft reveals a new console at E3 next year, they will still be behind in power and graphical capability.

Barely more powerful than the PS3/Xbox 360. It's clearly not a 'next gen' system in terms of hardware. It's 'next gen' in terms of name only just like the Wii.KC_Hokie

4 times more powerful at best

More powerful than the 360 and PS3.

My initial reaction is slightly more powerful than the 360/PS3 including the whole streaming thing which is bound to take more resources. I guess we will find out more when we start seeing some real games from Nintendo, but I think it will be an improvement over the ps3 solid 720p with most if not all games running at 60fps, and also some higher res textures and such.

1st option made me lol.

It'll be the strongest console until the later ones of course.

all I know is if they make a new zelda anywhere near close that tech demo, I'll forgive ninty for releasing a very underpowered console. :shock:

It has already been exposed that it will be running games about like you see direct x 10 on pc which is better than current gen by more than just a little. Of course PC gaming is at direct x 11, I will for sure not buy it for graphics considering my video card puts that to shame.

There are some sites who have reported it will be around a 4830 for you to think of the ball park. For some reason I'm not able to show links but the story is on joystiq(i think kotaku too). It was just a week or so ago.

I didn't think the Zelda tech demo was that impressive. It looked great, and supposedly ran at a clean 60fps at 1080p, but it was bland, a distinct lack of detail.

Im sure the finished game will be fantastic though, and just what Zelda fans want, after the've finished with the Wii

'nuff said.

:shock:

Wasn't Nintendo downplaying the power of the Wii-U?

"So I don't know that we would be able to sit here and say that it's going to necessarily dramatically outperform the systems that are out now."link.

I think the main advantage will be less blurry and more defined visuals which comes with true HD gaming and the usual Nintendo polish with the exclusives. It won't be the generational jump some people are hoping for and it probably won't hold up against Sony and Microsoft's next gen offerings.

hypoty

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

I have a ATI 5400 and is really far behond xbox360 in performance, so there is hardware that is weaker out there and cheap so they dont have some huge price for WiiU, considering the 6'' screen would already be huge in price

loosingENDS

Considering the tiny size of WiiU, i suppose will have something like that card

AMD Radeon HD 4670M (55 nm process tech, 320 DX10.1 stream processors, 8 ROPs, up to 675Mhz) has 35 watts TDP. It can easily fit (TDP) within Wii U box.

Wii U box is about same size ViDock type box (external GPU for laptop) e.g. possible dGPU can go up to Radeon HD 5770 (800 stream processors).

My Dell Studio XPS 1645 laptop's AMD Radeon HD 5730M (40nm process tech, 400 DX11 stream processors, 32 Z-ROP, 8 color ROP, 650Mhz) dGPU has 26 watts TDP. I have DIY ViDock connect to it.

AMD C-50/Z-01's Radeon HD 6250M fits within a tablet form factor e.g. MSI Windpad 110W or ACER Iconia W500. It's unlikely Wii U uses Radeon HD 5400 (80 stream processors) type dGPU.

Wii U console is basically ViDockbox + Radeon HD R700 GPU+ multi-core PowerPC (most likely PowerPC A2/PPEtype)CPU.

I imagine it will be like the PS3, but with higher resolution, better frame rates (more consistent too), less choppy games. The games could look almost the same, but play a lot better. Reason enough to buy. Like upgrading to a newer, better graphics card. Same games, but they play better. Totally worth it.

Its clearly a next gen system performance wise ....... its more than just slightly better than the X360 and PS3.Nonstop-Madness

It will be powerful enough to hold it's own. I can't wait to play mario, zelda and metroid all in fabulous HD.:D

after watching the zelda demo i can say it blows ps3 n xbox 360 away and thats a first gen game.Tessellation

It's not a game, it's only a tech demo and they can be misleading. Even though Nintendo has a track record of living up to their promises is regards to tech demos, I doubt it will be first generation.

[QUOTE="Dr_Snood"]

It'll be next-gen capable for sure.

Btw your first option can go either way. If someone is using a computer from 2000, then yeah the Wii-U will beat it. However if someone built a computer with top of the line parts in 2011, then the PC will be better.

93BlackHawk93

I hope it has a 4830 or 4850. I know those are $50-90 gpus, but it would put the WiiU in a good position against current gen consoles, and give it a chance for 3rd-party support when the next-gen PS and Xbox release. They flip 20M WiiUs by the time those system are even on the market and that support is sure to be there. I doubt MS or Sony will make a powerful enough system next gen to match the difference between the Wii and the PS3/360 this gen.

Not powerful enough to please SW....

Seriously though,

in practice PS2 to Xbox level

Can be noticable better, but not game changing better

'nuff said.

:shock:

theuncharted34

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

'nuff said.

:shock:

Elann2008

I was seriously impressed by that demo since I've already seen Link in HD. :P

And it's consoles. They've always had to go for art $tyle They've never had the horsepower for realistic Crysis graphics :D

I didn't think the Zelda tech demo was that impressive. It looked great, and supposedly ran at a clean 60fps at 1080p, but it was bland, a distinct lack of detail.

Im sure the finished game will be fantastic though, and just what Zelda fans want, after the've finished with the Wii

-Snooze-

I believe Digital Foundry came out and said the Zelda tech demo was only 720p.

Didn't Miyamoto say it would only be slightly more powerful than the consoles out now?Kenny789

almost the power of the xbpx360, but slightly weaker