Has a SW slaughter ever been this bad?

I thought MS conference was far far superior to Sony's. The crowd was getting restless at Sonys just like at Microsofts but was worse with all the Lag and Lock ups. One guy comes on stage and says three or four things, 2 minutes later Sony is on top. Microsoft royally stuffed it by going against the consumer, but if were talking about who had the best entertaining conference, that was clearly Microsoft.

sailor232

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="Zophar87"]

Your damage control couldn't be more pathetic.

Zophar87

This debate has nothing to do with my (or any) smart phone as it's not a gaming console. I expect my smart phone to be connect to my carrier's network because that's what it needs in order to function. If the data on my phone suddenly goes out, I can still call and text and use it like a basic phone. Unlike the rest of the mindless drones in our modern society, I can function without my smart phone.

That said, Microsoft has no right telling it's consumers that they're required to connect to the internet in order to play a single player game.

You really don't see how bad that is for the gaming industry and I pity you.

[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

[QUOTE="ConanTheStoner"]

They should have played this when Tretton took the stage.

Ballroompirate

Kaz sends his regards...

Beyond epic lol

Indeed lol.  I would pay to see that conference.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

Have fun playing them if your internet decides to shut off.

percech

Ironic. That "cheaper" system as more advanced hardware.

[QUOTE="sailor232"]

I thought MS conference was far far superior to Sony's. The crowd was getting restless at Sonys just like at Microsofts but was worse with all the Lag and Lock ups. One guy comes on stage and says three or four things, 2 minutes later Sony is on top. Microsoft royally stuffed it by going against the consumer, but if were talking about who had the best entertaining conference, that was clearly Microsoft.

Kjranu

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

The $599 announcement was worse, but I don't think everybody realized it at the time since Sony was completely crushing it with PS2.

neo418

it was defendable though. Supposedly more powerful and blu-ray. xbone has nothing to defend 

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

[QUOTE="percech"] Exactly how is that pathetic. I'm just wondering what you think of smartphones requiring data to be usable. I would like you to elaborate instead of copping out like this.percech

This debate has nothing to do with my (or any) smart phone as it's not a gaming console. I expect my smart phone to be connect to my carrier's network because that's what it needs in order to function. If the data on my phone suddenly goes out, I can still call and text and use it like a basic phone. Unlike the rest of the mindless drones in our modern society, I can function without my smart phone.

That said, Microsoft has no right telling it's consumers that they're required to connect to the internet in order to play a single player game.

You really don't see how bad that is for the gaming industry and I pity you.

but you can play games, unlike the xbone 

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

Have fun playing them if your internet decides to shut off.

percech

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="Zophar87"]

This debate has nothing to do with my (or any) smart phone as it's not a gaming console. I expect my smart phone to be connect to my carrier's network because that's what it needs in order to function. If the data on my phone suddenly goes out, I can still call and text and use it like a basic phone. Unlike the rest of the mindless drones in our modern society, I can function without my smart phone.

That said, Microsoft has no right telling it's consumers that they're required to connect to the internet in order to play a single player game.

You really don't see how bad that is for the gaming industry and I pity you.

neo418

but you can play games, unlike the xbone 

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

[QUOTE="percech"] Exactly how is that pathetic. I'm just wondering what you think of smartphones requiring data to be usable. I would like you to elaborate instead of copping out like this.percech

This debate has nothing to do with my (or any) smart phone as it's not a gaming console. I expect my smart phone to be connect to my carrier's network because that's what it needs in order to function. If the data on my phone suddenly goes out, I can still call and text and use it like a basic phone. Unlike the rest of the mindless drones in our modern society, I can function without my smart phone.

That said, Microsoft has no right telling it's consumers that they're required to connect to the internet in order to play a single player game.

You really don't see how bad that is for the gaming industry and I pity you.

Yes. It can. My iPhone will function as a normal phone if I were to switch off my data. Even so, the fact remains that my smart phone is not a gaming console. I expect my smart phone to be connected to the internet, but it's not required in order to use the basic functions of my phone. I also expect my gaming consoles to still function as gaming consoles even when I'm not connected to the internet.

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]In lemland the internet never ever goes down.2beers_in_hand

I thought MS conference was far far superior to Sony's. The crowd was getting restless at Sonys just like at Microsofts but was worse with all the Lag and Lock ups. One guy comes on stage and says three or four things, 2 minutes later Sony is on top. Microsoft royally stuffed it by going against the consumer, but if were talking about who had the best entertaining conference, that was clearly Microsoft.

sailor232

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

[QUOTE="percech"] Exactly how is that pathetic. I'm just wondering what you think of smartphones requiring data to be usable. I would like you to elaborate instead of copping out like this.percech

This debate has nothing to do with my (or any) smart phone as it's not a gaming console. I expect my smart phone to be connect to my carrier's network because that's what it needs in order to function. If the data on my phone suddenly goes out, I can still call and text and use it like a basic phone. Unlike the rest of the mindless drones in our modern society, I can function without my smart phone.

That said, Microsoft has no right telling it's consumers that they're required to connect to the internet in order to play a single player game.

You really don't see how bad that is for the gaming industry and I pity you.

[QUOTE="sailor232"]

I thought MS conference was far far superior to Sony's. The crowd was getting restless at Sonys just like at Microsofts but was worse with all the Lag and Lock ups. One guy comes on stage and says three or four things, 2 minutes later Sony is on top. Microsoft royally stuffed it by going against the consumer, but if were talking about who had the best entertaining conference, that was clearly Microsoft.

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="Kjranu"][QUOTE="sailor232"]

I thought MS conference was far far superior to Sony's. The crowd was getting restless at Sonys just like at Microsofts but was worse with all the Lag and Lock ups. One guy comes on stage and says three or four things, 2 minutes later Sony is on top. Microsoft royally stuffed it by going against the consumer, but if were talking about who had the best entertaining conference, that was clearly Microsoft.

percech

I didnt like most games both of the companys showed, Guns, guns, more guns,CGI, scripted gameplay, quick time events, boring TV functions, Vita stuff no one cared about, showing TLOU which is already out etc. At least Microsofts wasnt as boring, they had no PR talk and showed a tonne of game content in a shorter time, Sony's was very very very boring until after the Microsoft bashing.

[QUOTE="neo418"]

[QUOTE="percech"] That is not an explanation and you know it. If your data is out, you cannot call or text, not sure if this is just a Verizon thing but that's not how I've experienced it. percech

but you can play games, unlike the xbone 

And the primary function of xbone is.....TV?

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="Zophar87"]

This debate has nothing to do with my (or any) smart phone as it's not a gaming console. I expect my smart phone to be connect to my carrier's network because that's what it needs in order to function. If the data on my phone suddenly goes out, I can still call and text and use it like a basic phone. Unlike the rest of the mindless drones in our modern society, I can function without my smart phone.

That said, Microsoft has no right telling it's consumers that they're required to connect to the internet in order to play a single player game.

You really don't see how bad that is for the gaming industry and I pity you.

call_of_duty_10

its like they all vanished :o

ultraking

Never before in the history of System Wars has any faction ever been torn apart and disbanned like this. Poor lems.

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="neo418"]

but you can play games, unlike the xbone 

neo418

And the primary function of xbone is.....TV?

Where is ShouldersOfOrion?  Come to think of it, I havent seen him today at all.

[QUOTE="neo418"]

[QUOTE="percech"] The primary function of a phone is to be a phone.percech

And the primary function of xbone is.....TV?

Except I've proved you wrong but you still continue to add to this debate. Also, if someone just wanted a basic phone then they'd buy a basic phone. No one forces you to buy a smart phone, you do it out of your own freewill. However, if I wanted to play Halo 5 I would be forced by Microsoft to connect my Xbox One to the internet. At the time of me typing this, there is no alternative for Xbox One users like there is for phone users.

Where is ShouldersOfOrion?  Come to think of it, I havent seen him today at all.

Wiimotefan

Probably crying in a corner

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

Where is ShouldersOfOrion?  Come to think of it, I havent seen him today at all.

Ballroompirate

Probably crying in a corner

He NEVER gives up.  If he threw in the towel then damn... hard times lol.

[QUOTE="neo418"]

[QUOTE="percech"] The primary function of a phone is to be a phone.percech

And the primary function of xbone is.....TV?

Ah I see something can't do it's primary function without internet/data. I guess my pc can't do its primary function, i guess ps3 and 360  can't, hell not even wii. Oh wait they can. 

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="percech"] That's not an excuse. Why is it not possible to work without data? percech

I'm going to chime in here. 

I don't think MS's 24 hour connectivity policy is an intrusion on consumer rights. It is, however, obviously greedy and money grabbing because the point of enforcing it is to guarentee DRM integrity. As console gamers, we are generally against DRM. 

A bigger intrusion of consumer rights is MS's used game policy. They are actively trying to push games into the service industry, to a point that we, gamers, don't actually own anything. If MS has their way, they will own all the games, us gamers can only purchase the service of playing a game. 

A second intrusion of consumer rights is the Kinect gathering personal data, which is fairly obvious.

Where is ShouldersOfOrion?  Come to think of it, I havent seen him today at all.

Wiimotefan

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="percech"] That's not an excuse. Why is it not possible to work without data? percech

Drop your weapons friend the war is over. They are giving out coffee and blankets around the corner to those that have been displaced. 

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="neo418"]

And the primary function of xbone is.....TV?

Zophar87

Except I've proved you wrong but you still continue to add to this debate. Also, if someone just wanted a basic phone then they'd buy a basic phone. No one forces you to buy a smart phone, you do it out of your own freewill. However, if I wanted to play Halo 5 I would be forced by Microsoft to connect my Xbox One to the internet. At the time of me typing this, there is no alternative for Xbox One users like there is for phone users.

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

[QUOTE="percech"] You're not seeing the point my friend. Primary function of a phone is to be a phone while the primary function of a console is to play games. In this case both are taken away without a data connection. So why are you using a smartphone when it is taking away the primary function of your phone when data connection is lost yet you are in here pointing out MS's poor drm policy? You are being a hypocrite, no?percech

Except I've proved you wrong but you still continue to add to this debate. Also, if someone just wanted a basic phone then they'd buy a basic phone. No one forces you to buy a smart phone, you do it out of your own freewill. However, if I wanted to play Halo 5 I would be forced by Microsoft to connect my Xbox One to the internet. At the time of me typing this, there is no alternative for Xbox One users like there is for phone users.

iPhones can be activated via wifi without the need to connect it to iTunes. This was implemented just so you don't need iTunes in order for the phone to activate.

The fact still remains that anyone who buys a smart phone just to use as a basic phone has an alternative. Anyone who wants to play Halo 5 has no choice but to buy the Xbox One console.

This is the biggest ownage in console gaming history, Lems just gonna have to deal with it

Davekeeh

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] Y'know what,I think we stop pause this argument,and you should explain to me what you mean by 'data':PIshmaelSonata

I'm going to chime in here. 

I don't think MS's 24 hour connectivity policy is an intrusion on consumer rights. It is, however, obviously greedy and money grabbing because the point of enforcing it is to guarentee DRM integrity. As console gamers, we are generally against DRM. 

A bigger intrusion of consumer rights is MS's used game policy. They are actively trying to push games into the service industry, to a point that we, gamers, don't actually own anything. If MS has their way, they will own all the games, us gamers can only purchase the service of playing a game. 

A second intrusion of consumer rights is the Kinect gathering personal data, which is fairly obvious.

[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

Where is ShouldersOfOrion?  Come to think of it, I havent seen him today at all.

Wiimotefan

Probably crying in a corner

He NEVER gives up.  If he threw in the towel then damn... hard times lol.

I don't think even the hardcore lems can justify their support for MS this upcoming gen, it's PS4/Wii-U/PC or go home. Even as a manticore I really see no desire to get a X1, was thinking about it for Killer Instinct 3 (loved the 1st one and even the 2nd one) but if the rumor holds true that you only start with 1 character and have to spend money on unlocking other characters, that just killed my desire to even consider getting a X1.

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

Probably crying in a corner

Ballroompirate

He NEVER gives up.  If he threw in the towel then damn... hard times lol.

I don't think even the hardcore lems can justify their support for MS this upcoming gen, it's PS4/Wii-U/PC or go home. Even as a manticore I really see no desire to get a X1, was thinking about it for Killer Instinct 3 (loved the 1st one and even the 2nd one) but if the rumor holds true that you only start with 1 character and have to spend money on unlocking other characters, that just killed my desire to even consider getting a X1.

Its also going to be my first gen not buying all platforms.  I cant support the X1 with its current policies no matter what games they get.

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

Probably crying in a corner

Ballroompirate

He NEVER gives up.  If he threw in the towel then damn... hard times lol.

I don't think even the hardcore lems can justify their support for MS this upcoming gen, it's PS4/Wii-U/PC or go home. Even as a manticore I really see no desire to get a X1, was thinking about it for Killer Instinct 3 (loved the 1st one and even the 2nd one) but if the rumor holds true that you only start with 1 character and have to spend money on unlocking other characters, that just killed my desire to even consider getting a X1.

Ly and shawn can lol

[QUOTE="neo418"]

[QUOTE="percech"] The primary function of a phone is to be a phone.percech

And the primary function of xbone is.....TV?

I like how the internet represents the world. Console sells and success reflect that.Akrillax

This thread was really about this specific board more than anything else.

I like how the internet represents the world. Console sells and success reflect that.Akrillax

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="neo418"]

And the primary function of xbone is.....TV?

cyclops10

[QUOTE="Akrillax"]I like how the internet represents the world. Console sells and success reflect that.percech

[QUOTE="Akrillax"]I like how the internet represents the world. Console sells and success reflect that.Wiimotefan

This thread was really about this specific board more than anything else.

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="Akrillax"]I like how the internet represents the world. Console sells and success reflect that.cyclops10

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="sailor232"]

I thought MS conference was far far superior to Sony's. The crowd was getting restless at Sonys just like at Microsofts but was worse with all the Lag and Lock ups. One guy comes on stage and says three or four things, 2 minutes later Sony is on top. Microsoft royally stuffed it by going against the consumer, but if were talking about who had the best entertaining conference, that was clearly Microsoft.

percech

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

[QUOTE="Akrillax"]I like how the internet represents the world. Console sells and success reflect that.Akrillax

This thread was really about this specific board more than anything else.

True enough.  The X1 could be a huge success without appealing to the core gamer at all.  I'm hoping it doesnt turn out that way, but its not in our hands.