lol, Sure... A balanced online game is much easier to get good at than an a broken one
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I believe Halo is the most popular when it comes to MLG(not quite sure if this is true) therefore it requires skills to be that good as opposed to some people ("TC") claiming it requires no skillNo because the mlg SETTINGS require skill to be good not the players your playing agaisnt as opposed ot call of duty where its basically the same thing.[QUOTE="EazyD91"]
[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] Isnt that the same for any game with pro gamers.MassiveKaos
Example: Say tehres someone whos never played either game before. He first plays halo 3 1v1 against soemone whos good with the Br in a mlg 1v1. The good player WILL win 100-0 in a first to 100 game. In call of duty 4 howerever you will get a few kills. On halo mlg im dominating up to level 40 getting the most kills in the slayer games most of the time and always winning the objectives but when i play onmy friends level 50 i STRUGGLE to get ONE KILL. Its like they are on anotehr level.
So halo requires skill? Yep it doesIn CoD 4 you cant run anywhere, thus limiting your options and by extension the amount of skill you can employ in any given situation. You also can't employ the skill required to obtain Overshields before your opponents or to activate a bubble at the right time and place. In Halo 3 you can escape from an enemy if you are skilled enough to do so, whereas in Call of Duty 4 it is common to enter an inescapable situation, such as when two Martyrdoms go off in a hallway. It seems we're on the same page.In CoD 4 you cant run anywhere or find some overshields or bubble to hide. In halo3 you can escape from an enemy and you die from nowhere.
xxcodmanxx
In Call of Duty 4, you are not required to aim to continue playing the game, but will likely lose a match if you do not do so. In Halo 3, you are not required to aim to continue playing the game, but will likely lose a match if you do not do so. In Call of Duty 4, every multiplayer match is a team match, thus reducing the impact you have on your own score. In Halo 3, some matches are teamed and some are free-for-alls, and you can decide which ones are which. In both Call of Duty 4 and Halo 3, you can decide whether to make plans, regarding the elimination of opponents or otherwise, or to charge in wildly with no thought, or to do nothing.CoD4 you have to aim, you work in teams, you create a plan to eliminate the other opponents unlike your nine year old friends on halo who QQ when they die cause theyre too young for this game.
xxcodmanxx
'Just better'? Considering all your previous points have been wrong, most even FACTUALLY wrong, I find it hard to believe that whatever reasons you're withholding would be convincing. By what criteria do you assert that Infinity Ward is a "better dev" than Bungie? Certainly not game quality. Certainly not game quantity. Certainly not graphics. What then? Speed? What if they're faster because they rush the release, thus being liable to ship something horridly buggy? Wiktionary as of September 2009 defines "pro" as "In favor of", but "Snipers in cod4 are so much more in favor of than halo also" doesn't make grammatical sense. Dictionary.com defines "pro" as "professional", which it defines as 1. "following an occupation as a means of livelihood or for gain" - neither game has sniper weapons that seek livelihood, 2. "of, pertaining to, or connected with a profession" - both games have sniper weapons that are appropriate for the marksman profession, 3. "appropriate to a profession" - both games have sniper weapons that are appropriate to the marksman profession, 4. "engaged in one of the learned professions" both games have sniper weapons that are frequently engaged in the marksman profession, 5. "following as a business an occupation ordinarily engaged in as a pastime" - both games have sniper weapons that might be used for animal hunting if not in warfare, 6. "making a business or constant practice of something not properly to be regarded as a business" - neither game has sniper weapons that create businesses, 7. "undertaken or engaged in as a means of livelihood or for gain" - neither game has sniper weapons that seek livelihood, 8. "of or for a professional person or his or her place of business or work" - Both games have sniper weapons that are made for professional soldiers, 9. "done by a professional; expert" - sniper weapons are not verbs and therefore cannot meet this definition. None of these things apply to Call of Duty 4 and only Call of Duty 4. The Battle Rifle is not easy to use. You have to aim it, pull the trigger in specific intervals, and reload when the clip runs out. The MOST easy weapon to use is the Synthenoid from Ratchet & Clank.CoD4 also is just better. Has a better dev. Snipers in cod4 are so much more pro than halo also. The BR is the most easy weapon to use.
xxcodmanxx
This video is relevant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F96ogiWzvg0&feature=channel_page
It has Halo 3, Call of Duty 4, and Halo 2.
[QUOTE="SpideR_CentS"]Racing, Fighting, Sports and action games allare garbageon pc. See what I did there? Plus RPG's. Infact the only good genre on PC is RTS. FPS's are leagues better on consoles. You've got to be joking. PC is for FPS and RTS Consoles are for everything else.[QUOTE="neonvzla"]
FPS suck in consoles, so arguing about it its silly and retarded since at the end of the day, both are equally boring. Have fun with your autoaim :D
Guitar_Zed
You've got to be joking. PC is for FPS and RTS Consoles are for everything else.McFadge
Correction: PC is for everything, consoles are for gaming.
I still will disagree with you. Ive watched many vids of KZ2 on youtube. Firstly, most of the time, people dont even us the sights, they just hip fire. Secondly, it still only takes a few shots to kill someone, which means its easier.[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"][QUOTE="enygma500"]
Halo: Aim Assist Evolved and Call of Aim Assist are both n00b friendly online.
Killzone 2 at launch required FAR more skill as there was no assist what so ever. Except the shot gun glitch.
enygma500
I been the last to fire and the last one standing. The number of shots to kill someone doesn't make any difference in difficulty. Not when the guns don't aim themselves for you and they have recoil.
COD and Halo all your bullets go to the same spot. Killzone actually has bullet spread, which varies from gun to gun, and the longer you hold the trigger the less accurate your gun gets.
And unless the target is really far away in Killzone, no they will not use the sights. If any player is run;n;gunning they wouldn't have time to use the sights.
Get your head out of your ass.
If you actually played Halo 3, you would know it absolutely has bullet spread for every single weapon also. Plays huge into the strategy game.
So before you spew more BS next time, get your facts straight.
I never seen so many poser noobs in one place at once. Jesus, BOTH games require no skill at all! First off, Halo has auto aim and magnatism. I don't care what MLG rules you people say make the game harder, regardless.....IT HAS AUTO AIM! I'm sorry, no skill required. I can play the game with one analog stick. Getting tired of these people who take pride in a online FPS that aims for them. Now, moving on to COD4. Not only does the game also have auto aim and magnatism....it also has NO recoil at all. I can go fully automatic with a M4A1 to a guy 500 meters away and get a headshot. Oh god, I forgot to mention the nooby perks. But you get the idea. Want skill? Play socom or counter strike.
I never seen so many poser noobs in one place at once. Jesus, BOTH games require no skill at all! First off, Halo has auto aim and magnatism. I don't care what MLG rules you people say make the game harder, regardless.....IT HAS AUTO AIM! I'm sorry, no skill required. I can play the game with one analog stick. Getting tired of these people who take pride in a online FPS that aims for them. Now, moving on to COD4. Not only does the game also have auto aim and magnatism....it also has NO recoil at all. I can go fully automatic with a M4A1 to a guy 500 meters away and get a headshot. Oh god, I forgot to mention the nooby perks. But you get the idea. Want skill? Play socom or counter strike.
VideoGameRosado
Lol, whether or not it has auto-aim/mag it does not do it for you, it feels nearly not existant. You could not play it with one analog, halo is alot deeper than meets the eye.
[QUOTE="VideoGameRosado"]
I never seen so many poser noobs in one place at once. Jesus, BOTH games require no skill at all! First off, Halo has auto aim and magnatism. I don't care what MLG rules you people say make the game harder, regardless.....IT HAS AUTO AIM! I'm sorry, no skill required. I can play the game with one analog stick. Getting tired of these people who take pride in a online FPS that aims for them. Now, moving on to COD4. Not only does the game also have auto aim and magnatism....it also has NO recoil at all. I can go fully automatic with a M4A1 to a guy 500 meters away and get a headshot. Oh god, I forgot to mention the nooby perks. But you get the idea. Want skill? Play socom or counter strike.
Threebabycows
Lol, whether or not it has auto-aim/mag it does not do it for you, it feels nearly not existant. You could not play it with one analog, halo is alot deeper than meets the eye.
Don't lie to yourself. It practically holds the controller for you. Trust me, because i've done it. In a 1 on 1 gun fight with no one interrupting, you can EASILY play with the left stick only and right trigger only. The huge cross hair, the huge hit boxes, the auto aim, the magnatism... just makes life easy. It's an oxymoron to call these MLG players "pros" in halo.[QUOTE="Threebabycows"][QUOTE="VideoGameRosado"]
I never seen so many poser noobs in one place at once. Jesus, BOTH games require no skill at all! First off, Halo has auto aim and magnatism. I don't care what MLG rules you people say make the game harder, regardless.....IT HAS AUTO AIM! I'm sorry, no skill required. I can play the game with one analog stick. Getting tired of these people who take pride in a online FPS that aims for them. Now, moving on to COD4. Not only does the game also have auto aim and magnatism....it also has NO recoil at all. I can go fully automatic with a M4A1 to a guy 500 meters away and get a headshot. Oh god, I forgot to mention the nooby perks. But you get the idea. Want skill? Play socom or counter strike.
VideoGameRosado
Lol, whether or not it has auto-aim/mag it does not do it for you, it feels nearly not existant. You could not play it with one analog, halo is alot deeper than meets the eye.
Don't lie to yourself. It practically holds the controller for you. Trust me, because i've done it. In a 1 on 1 gun fight with no one interrupting, you can EASILY play with the left stick only and right trigger only. The huge cross hair, the huge hit boxes, the auto aim, the magnatism... just makes life easy. It's an oxymoron to call these MLG players "pros" in halo.How good was the person you where fighting, what gun were you using lol? Did he even strafe?
[QUOTE="Threebabycows"][QUOTE="VideoGameRosado"]
I never seen so many poser noobs in one place at once. Jesus, BOTH games require no skill at all! First off, Halo has auto aim and magnatism. I don't care what MLG rules you people say make the game harder, regardless.....IT HAS AUTO AIM! I'm sorry, no skill required. I can play the game with one analog stick. Getting tired of these people who take pride in a online FPS that aims for them. Now, moving on to COD4. Not only does the game also have auto aim and magnatism....it also has NO recoil at all. I can go fully automatic with a M4A1 to a guy 500 meters away and get a headshot. Oh god, I forgot to mention the nooby perks. But you get the idea. Want skill? Play socom or counter strike.
VideoGameRosado
Lol, whether or not it has auto-aim/mag it does not do it for you, it feels nearly not existant. You could not play it with one analog, halo is alot deeper than meets the eye.
Don't lie to yourself. It practically holds the controller for you. Trust me, because i've done it. In a 1 on 1 gun fight with no one interrupting, you can EASILY play with the left stick only and right trigger only. The huge cross hair, the huge hit boxes, the auto aim, the magnatism... just makes life easy. It's an oxymoron to call these MLG players "pros" in halo. I'm guessing you have explanation as to why your K/D ration is barely above 1.0 when you only have 400 games played?[QUOTE="VideoGameRosado"][QUOTE="Threebabycows"]Don't lie to yourself. It practically holds the controller for you. Trust me, because i've done it. In a 1 on 1 gun fight with no one interrupting, you can EASILY play with the left stick only and right trigger only. The huge cross hair, the huge hit boxes, the auto aim, the magnatism... just makes life easy. It's an oxymoron to call these MLG players "pros" in halo. I'm guessing you have explanation as to why your K/D ration is barely above 1.0 when you only have 400 games played?Lol, whether or not it has auto-aim/mag it does not do it for you, it feels nearly not existant. You could not play it with one analog, halo is alot deeper than meets the eye.
II-FBIsniper-II
Oh of course i have an explanation as to why that is so. It's easy. See.... where I come from... where your online gaming requires skill... you get used to "aiming for yourself" and having my kills hard earned. So I went back to halo 3 a couple months back and tried the same technique, you know...aiming for yourself, and it didn't work. I was just used to skill required non-health regenerating online gaming that going back to halo's noobiness was a chore until i later realized playing the game with the left stick only is the way to go.
I have no idea which game you're talking about, considering one can spam grenades relentlessly in both.because spamming grenades requires more skill right? :roll:
ImSwordMan
cod4 is a game thats easy to get used to but that doesnt mean its a nooby game where everyone can start kicking butt.
[QUOTE="VideoGameRosado"] Oh of course i have an explanation as to why that is so. It's easy. See.... where I come from... where your online gaming requires skill... you get used to "aiming for yourself" and having my kills hard earned. So I went back to halo 3 a couple months back and tried the same technique, you know...aiming for yourself, and it didn't work. I was just used to skill required non-health regenerating online gaming that going back to halo's noobiness was a chore until i later realized playing the game with the left stick only is the way to go.II-FBIsniper-IIOh, I'm hoping one of those online games isn't SocomConfrontation. I take it you never played the game, considering if you did.... you would never notice that or ever knew it existed in the first place. Sad you take pride in your kills in This Game
Oh, I'm hoping one of those online games isn't SocomConfrontation. I take it you never played the game, considering if you did.... you would never notice that or ever knew it existed in the first place. Sad you take pride in your kills in This Game[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"][QUOTE="VideoGameRosado"] Oh of course i have an explanation as to why that is so. It's easy. See.... where I come from... where your online gaming requires skill... you get used to "aiming for yourself" and having my kills hard earned. So I went back to halo 3 a couple months back and tried the same technique, you know...aiming for yourself, and it didn't work. I was just used to skill required non-health regenerating online gaming that going back to halo's noobiness was a chore until i later realized playing the game with the left stick only is the way to go.VideoGameRosado
IT still is no were near the "it aims for you" level.
Oh, I'm hoping one of those online games isn't SocomConfrontation. I take it you never played the game, considering if you did.... you would never notice that or ever knew it existed in the first place. Sad you take pride in your kills in This Game Hmm...we go from "playing games with no aim assist" to games where you don't notice the auto aim...[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"][QUOTE="VideoGameRosado"] Oh of course i have an explanation as to why that is so. It's easy. See.... where I come from... where your online gaming requires skill... you get used to "aiming for yourself" and having my kills hard earned. So I went back to halo 3 a couple months back and tried the same technique, you know...aiming for yourself, and it didn't work. I was just used to skill required non-health regenerating online gaming that going back to halo's noobiness was a chore until i later realized playing the game with the left stick only is the way to go.VideoGameRosado
I take it you never played the game, considering if you did.... you would never notice that or ever knew it existed in the first place. Sad you take pride in your kills in This Game[QUOTE="VideoGameRosado"]
[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"] Oh, I'm hoping one of those online games isn't SocomConfrontation.Threebabycows
IT still is no were near the "it aims for you" level.
what?! Didn't you notice how the crosshairs literally SNAPPED to the gunners head on the warthog? He was busy in a gun fight with one guy on the hill, then the warthog passes by at high speeds and his cross hairs just snap to him in the middle of the gunfight. Proves my point you don't have to move the right stick to get a kill as shown in that video. I'm upset you're even defending this game. Please, stop. you're supposed to be a gamer.[QUOTE="VideoGameRosado"]I take it you never played the game, considering if you did.... you would never notice that or ever knew it existed in the first place. Sad you take pride in your kills in This Game Hmm...we go from "playing games with no aim assist" to games where you don't notice the auto aim... Play socom and tell me it has auto aim...please.[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"] Oh, I'm hoping one of those online games isn't SocomConfrontation.II-FBIsniper-II
Play socom and tell me it has auto aim...please. VideoGameRosadoI just showed you two videos showing the aim assist. :|
[QUOTE="Threebabycows"][QUOTE="VideoGameRosado"] I take it you never played the game, considering if you did.... you would never notice that or ever knew it existed in the first place. Sad you take pride in your kills in This Game
VideoGameRosado
IT still is no were near the "it aims for you" level.
what?! Didn't you notice how the crosshairs literally SNAPPED to the gunners head on the warthog? He was busy in a gun fight with one guy on the hill, then the warthog passes by at high speeds and his cross hairs just snap to him in the middle of the gunfight. Proves my point you don't have to move the right stick to get a kill as shown in that video. I'm upset you're even defending this game. Please, stop. you're supposed to be a gamer.Seriously, in game with people moving back and forth it is hardly noticeable, the sniper rifle has next to no auto aim on it in game as well, it doesn't even flinch.
[QUOTE="VideoGameRosado"]Play socom and tell me it has auto aim...please. II-FBIsniper-III just showed you two videos showing the aim assist. :| That video and you playing the game are entirely different experiences. Socom doesn't have auto aim.
Seriously, in game with people moving back and forth it is hardly noticeable, the sniper rifle has next to no auto aim on it in game as well, it doesn't even flinch.ThreebabycowsUhh, no. Swipe sniping is as easy as in Halo 2.
[QUOTE="Threebabycows"][QUOTE="VideoGameRosado"] I take it you never played the game, considering if you did.... you would never notice that or ever knew it existed in the first place. Sad you take pride in your kills in This Game
VideoGameRosado
IT still is no were near the "it aims for you" level.
what?! Didn't you notice how the crosshairs literally SNAPPED to the gunners head on the warthog? He was busy in a gun fight with one guy on the hill, then the warthog passes by at high speeds and his cross hairs just snap to him in the middle of the gunfight. Proves my point you don't have to move the right stick to get a kill as shown in that video. I'm upset you're even defending this game. Please, stop. you're supposed to be a gamer.Halo would be unplayable without aim assist. Try shooting your teammates - that's what it's like. Also, if you didn't have to touch the right stick to out BR somebody, they were fkn horrible, and probably ran in a straight line. Also, your stats are pathetic - if you don't have at least a 2:1 K/D ratio in Social with less than 1000 games played, you are obviously terrible at the game.
Oh, and more evidence that you're bad at Halo - your most used weapons are the AR and melee.
[QUOTE="Threebabycows"]Seriously, in game with people moving back and forth it is hardly noticeable, the sniper rifle has next to no auto aim on it in game as well, it doesn't even flinch.II-FBIsniper-IIUhh, no. Swipe sniping is as easy as in Halo 2.
LOL no, halo 2 was mad easy when it comes to sweep sniping, I was talking about no scoping BTW.
Uhh, no. Swipe sniping is as easy as in Halo 2.[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"][QUOTE="Threebabycows"]Seriously, in game with people moving back and forth it is hardly noticeable, the sniper rifle has next to no auto aim on it in game as well, it doesn't even flinch.Threebabycows
LOL no, halo 2 was mad easy when it comes to sweep sniping, I was talking about no scoping BTW.
It was, and it still is. link The difference is that the "swipe" has to be shorter in Halo 3 than in Halo 2.[QUOTE="Threebabycows"][QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"] Uhh, no. Swipe sniping is as easy as in Halo 2.II-FBIsniper-II
LOL no, halo 2 was mad easy when it comes to sweep sniping, I was talking about no scoping BTW.
It was, and it still is. link The difference is that the "swipe" has to be shorter in Halo 3 than in Halo 2.I don't know many players(including myself) think H3 sniping is much harder. Even aiming the BR in halo 2 was much easier.
[QUOTE="Threebabycows"][QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"] Uhh, no. Swipe sniping is as easy as in Halo 2.II-FBIsniper-II
LOL no, halo 2 was mad easy when it comes to sweep sniping, I was talking about no scoping BTW.
It was, and it still is. link The difference is that the "swipe" has to be shorter in Halo 3 than in Halo 2.My god. Are you really stupid enough to think that sweeping in H3 is anywhere near as easy as it was in H2? Btw, none of the snipes in that video you posted were sweeps. He stops moving his crosshair when it gets on the head - in a sweep, you sweep across their head and time the shot you shoot when it's over their head. It's possible in any game with any gun, it's just harder in some than in other. Did you notice how for all of those "sweeps", he was either in 10x or close to them? In Halo 2, you could be at far longer ranges.
I don't know many players(including myself) think H3 sniping is much harder. Even aiming the BR in halo 2 was much easier.ThreebabycowsI'm not saying it isn't harder, just that the swipe sniping is still easy to do.
[QUOTE="Threebabycows"]I don't know many players(including myself) think H3 sniping is much harder. Even aiming the BR in halo 2 was much easier.II-FBIsniper-III'm not saying it isn't harder, just that the swipe sniping is still easy to do.
Kinda off topic, but do you were any headsets, like trittons, astros, or turtle beaches when you play halo?
[QUOTE="Threebabycows"][QUOTE="VideoGameRosado"] I take it you never played the game, considering if you did.... you would never notice that or ever knew it existed in the first place. Sad you take pride in your kills in This Game
VideoGameRosado
IT still is no were near the "it aims for you" level.
what?! Didn't you notice how the crosshairs literally SNAPPED to the gunners head on the warthog? He was busy in a gun fight with one guy on the hill, then the warthog passes by at high speeds and his cross hairs just snap to him in the middle of the gunfight. Proves my point you don't have to move the right stick to get a kill as shown in that video. I'm upset you're even defending this game. Please, stop. you're supposed to be a gamer...yeah try playing Halo only moving the left stick.
I swear you anti Halo kids are so retarded.
I prefer games like SOCOM (the good ones on PS2, not the crap thats in your sig) and Counter Strike but if you think slight aim assists (NOT AUTO AIM, auto aim is what is in GTA) means Halo takes no skill then it's obvious you never made it past level 5 in Lone Wolves.
you work in teams, you create a plan to eliminate the other opponents xxcodmanxxDon't know about you, but I've never done this in COD4. It's every man for himself....just like Halo.
[QUOTE="xxcodmanxx"]you work in teams, you create a plan to eliminate the other opponents killerfistDon't know about you, but I've never done this in COD4. It's every man for himself....just like Halo.
You should try getting past level 30 then. it'll help.
Don't know about you, but I've never done this in COD4. It's every man for himself....just like Halo.[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="xxcodmanxx"]you work in teams, you create a plan to eliminate the other opponents iRezarektah
You should try getting past level 30 then. it'll help.
I'm in 8th prestige, level (something)...[QUOTE="xxcodmanxx"]you work in teams, you create a plan to eliminate the other opponents killerfistDon't know about you, but I've never done this in COD4. It's every man for himself....just like Halo. It's not like that in competitive Halo, I don't know about COD.
You're the greatest.Making fanboy threads takes no skill. Creating Topics which offer thoughtful, constructive analysis of games, that objectively spotlights both weaknesses and strengths, and especially for games on platforms you don't have... now that takes skill.
AdobeArtist
[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="xxcodmanxx"]you work in teams, you create a plan to eliminate the other opponents II-FBIsniper-IIDon't know about you, but I've never done this in COD4. It's every man for himself....just like Halo. It's not like that in competitive Halo, I don't know about COD. The only time I see teamwork in Halo is with objective games like CTF...other than that..nothing really.
[QUOTE="iRezarektah"][QUOTE="killerfist"] Don't know about you, but I've never done this in COD4. It's every man for himself....just like Halo. killerfist
You should try getting past level 30 then. it'll help.
I'm in 8th prestige, level (something)...I think he is talking about halo.
[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"][QUOTE="killerfist"] Don't know about you, but I've never done this in COD4. It's every man for himself....just like Halo. killerfistIt's not like that in competitive Halo, I don't know about COD. The only time I see teamwork in Halo is with objective games like CTF...other than that..nothing really.
MLG. High level ranked games
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