Racing, Fighting, Sports and action games allare garbageon pc. See what I did there?
SpideR_CentS
No, no, yes, and no.
Plus, Rainbow Six Vegas 2 is realistic? Mhmm... play Arma 2 and tell me with a straight face that its 'realistic'...
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How many times have you fired an assault rifle? At a human being? CoD4 is not realistic; KZ2 is not realistic; most games are not realistic. I can't say all games because I haven't played all, and I've never been a Spartan, or fired plasma rifles so I don't know.CoD4 has such fast reflexes, more realistic, better weapon variety, better maps.
In CoD 4 you cant run anywhere or find some overshields or bubble to hide. In halo3 you can escape from an enemy and you die from nowhere.
CoD4 you have to aim, you work in teams, you create a plan to eliminate the other opponents unlike your nine year old friends on halo who QQ when they die cause theyre too young for this game.
CoD4 also is just better. Has a better dev. Snipers in cod4 are so much more pro than halo also. The BR is the most easy weapon to use.
Discuss.
xxcodmanxx
HELL F-ING NO! I have to give it to the lemmings for once.Halo takes way more skill than Call of Duty.
Making fanboy threads takes no skill. Creating Topics which offer thoughtful, constructive analysis of games, that objectively spotlights both weaknesses and strengths, and especially for games on platforms you don't have... now that takes skill.
Trying not to stare with my mouth open at those pics of the Lara Croft model is daunting at times....Making fanboy threads takes no skill. Creating Topics which offer thoughtful, constructive analysis of games, that objectively spotlights both weaknesses and strengths, and especially for games on platforms you don't have... now that takes skill.
AdobeArtist
[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]Trying not to stare with my mouth open at those pics of the Lara Croft model is daunting at times.... It also takes skill as well.:PMaking fanboy threads takes no skill. Creating Topics which offer thoughtful, constructive analysis of games, that objectively spotlights both weaknesses and strengths, and especially for games on platforms you don't have... now that takes skill.
cainetao11
Trying not to stare with my mouth open at those pics of the Lara Croft model is daunting at times.... It also takes skill as well.:PYeah I figured by 36 I would have some control, but.............[QUOTE="cainetao11"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]
Making fanboy threads takes no skill. Creating Topics which offer thoughtful, constructive analysis of games, that objectively spotlights both weaknesses and strengths, and especially for games on platforms you don't have... now that takes skill.
mitu123
[QUOTE="mitu123"]It also takes skill as well.:PYeah I figured by 36 I would have some control, but.............[QUOTE="cainetao11"]Trying not to stare with my mouth open at those pics of the Lara Croft model is daunting at times....cainetao11
So rarely does the text usage of "lol" have such literal meaning :lol::lol::lol:
Thanks guys, perhaps these can make your day as well :)
The one reason I don't like Halo is because it takes 60 shots to kill someone, that doesn't mean I suck......I just like realistic better so obviously Halo isn't my type of game.
Yeah I figured by 36 I would have some control, but.............[QUOTE="cainetao11"][QUOTE="mitu123"] It also takes skill as well.:P
AdobeArtist
So rarely does the text usage of "lol" have such literal meaning :lol::lol::lol:
Thanks guys, perhaps these can make your day as well :)
The hell it did.:PMore skill does not translate into more fun. If you play games for bragging rights I feel sorry for you.
3 shots with the battle rifle, 1 shot with the sniper rifle, covenant sniper, spartan laser, missile pod, or rocket launcher. 1 hit with the shotgun, sword, or melee from behind. Halo is full of brutally fast kills - the difference betwen it and COD is that you actually have to *aim* to get those kills. CoD allows you to kill with just a few body shots, and you can empty the clip on most weapons instantly. - The problem is that COD *isn't* realistic - people don't automatically react to gunfire, and the netcode / game simulation isn't good enough to allow you to properly react. You can run around firing automatic weapons - which "reduces your accuracy" - but in a practical sense it doesn't matter - it's a game that keeps claiming to be realistic - yet its weapons are cardboard props at best.The one reason I don't like Halo is because it takes 60 shots to kill someone, that doesn't mean I suck......I just like realistic better so obviously Halo isn't my type of game.
pandoradrive
Halo requires more skill because people have time to react to your shots unlike run&gun CoD4 where couple shots you die93soccer
That idea by itself is not a bad thing. It just means a general rule of COD4 is to be aware of your surroundings, try to keep a low profile, and try to predict where the other person will be.
Even then, in halo 3 you can open up your attack on someone with a grenade, draining their shields so you can finish them off very quickly.
EDIT: I should have finished that with "in concept", because a ton of people still just run around and hip fire at each other at choke points and corners in COD4.
[QUOTE="93soccer"]Halo requires more skill because people have time to react to your shots unlike run&gun CoD4 where couple shots you dieMordred19
That idea by itself is not a bad thing. It just means a general rule of COD4 is to be aware of your surroundings, try to keep a low profile, and try to predict where the other person will be.
Even then, in halo 3 you can open up your attack on someone with a grenade, draining their shields so you can finish them off very quickly.
EDIT: I should have finished that with "in concept", because a ton of people still just run around and hip fire at each other at choke points and corners in COD4.
COD doesn't have corner-look, auto-duck, or a punish mechanism for low K:D, so there will always be players spraying, meaning there will never be true "battlefield awareness" or tactical combat. Even at the highest levels of play, spray is so effective at breaking "tactical play", if only for its disruptive ability.I think the auto aim on halo 3 does make it easier to play, but the it's the jumping up and down and constant fragging that annoys me. I do think cod 4 requires a bit more skill but only if you play the right way, if your move and play tactically then it requires skill, if you sit and camp then it doesn't requires skill.hoosier7but 100% of the people that move don't play tactically they just run and spray all over the place
[QUOTE="hoosier7"]I think the auto aim on halo 3 does make it easier to play, but the it's the jumping up and down and constant fragging that annoys me. I do think cod 4 requires a bit more skill but only if you play the right way, if your move and play tactically then it requires skill, if you sit and camp then it doesn't requires skill.shadow_hosibut 100% of the people that move don't play tactically they just run and spray all over the place I don't, my point is that it's not really that either require more skill than the other, i just think that one can be played more tactically then the other.
That makes NO sense since skills are relative.CoD4 has such fast reflexes, more realistic, better weapon variety, better maps.
In CoD 4 you cant run anywhere or find some overshields or bubble to hide. In halo3 you can escape from an enemy and you die from nowhere.
CoD4 you have to aim, you work in teams, you create a plan to eliminate the other opponents unlike your nine year old friends on halo who QQ when they die cause theyre too young for this game.
CoD4 also is just better. Has a better dev. Snipers in cod4 are so much more pro than halo also. The BR is the most easy weapon to use.
Discuss.
xxcodmanxx
[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"][QUOTE="hoosier7"]I think the auto aim on halo 3 does make it easier to play, but the it's the jumping up and down and constant fragging that annoys me. I do think cod 4 requires a bit more skill but only if you play the right way, if your move and play tactically then it requires skill, if you sit and camp then it doesn't requires skill.hoosier7but 100% of the people that move don't play tactically they just run and spray all over the place I don't, my point is that it's not really that either require more skill than the other, i just think that one can be played more tactically then the other. Team Slayer, Halo 3 is nothing but playing tactically. Once you hit 30s, you're not facing 4 random people that hooked up to do a party for some casual play. It tends to be 3-4 players who know each other very well or wor together very well. Halo 3s community is not one to forgive people for playing sloppy....where in COD 4, you can pretty much get away with stuff like that.
[QUOTE="hoosier7"][QUOTE="shadow_hosi"] but 100% of the people that move don't play tactically they just run and spray all over the placejg4xchampI don't, my point is that it's not really that either require more skill than the other, i just think that one can be played more tactically then the other. Team Slayer, Halo 3 is nothing but playing tactically. Once you hit 30s, you're not facing 4 random people that hooked up to do a party for some casual play. It tends to be 3-4 players who know each other very well or wor together very well. Halo 3s community is not one to forgive people for playing sloppy....where in COD 4, you can pretty much get away with stuff like that. It's just what i think, sorry if it doesn't agree with your views, but i find that people jumping up and down constantly, throwing frags every second at you less are less skillful that those on cod4.
CoD4 is quite possibly the most skill-less, noob-friendly FPS game released in the history of gaming. This is for a variety of reasons;
1) The game entirely revolves around twitch-based combat. If you're seen first, you are screwed. You will die in a split-second from laughably accurate fire due to the weapons having next to no recoil whatsoever. Oh, and speaking of which...
2) The weapons don't recoil. They really don't. Keep the crosshair on the target, let rip, and move the right thumbstick down every couple of seconds.
3)The rewards for getting a few kills will get even MORE kills, and you don't even have to do anything. It's not freaking hard to get three kills, use the GPS, kill the two saps next to you behind the wall, call in the airstrike when you hit five and planting it on the cluster of recently spawned enemies that your STILL RUNNING GPS can pick up, and land at least two more kills for the helicopter. Yeah, that's real bloody challenging.
4) Noob-tube. Nothing else needs to be said
5) The maps are so hilariously small that there really is no point in even entertaining the notion of tactical movement or coordination
6) From the outset, you are given access to one of the most imbalanced weapons in FPS history. I speak of none other than the M-16. It is accurate, fires in 3-round bursts, has no recoil, and can be used for any situation. I have literally killed a sniper from across the map, then whipped around and used it like a shotgun to nail the sap who was sneaking up right behind me by hip-firing the hell out of it. If you use this gun, you are effectively carrying a 'I can't even do well at this casual-fest game with the other weapons, so I'm using this unbalanced monstrosity to make up for it' sign around your neck.
The words of somebody who has never played halo.CoD4 has such fast reflexes, more realistic, better weapon variety, better maps.
In CoD 4 you cant run anywhere or find some overshields or bubble to hide. In halo3 you can escape from an enemy and you die from nowhere.
CoD4 you have to aim, you work in teams, you create a plan to eliminate the other opponents unlike your nine year old friends on halo who QQ when they die cause theyre too young for this game.
CoD4 also is just better. Has a better dev. Snipers in cod4 are so much more pro than halo also. The BR is the most easy weapon to use.
Discuss.
xxcodmanxx
[QUOTE="hoosier7"][QUOTE="shadow_hosi"] but 100% of the people that move don't play tactically they just run and spray all over the placejg4xchampI don't, my point is that it's not really that either require more skill than the other, i just think that one can be played more tactically then the other. Team Slayer, Halo 3 is nothing but playing tactically. Once you hit 30s, you're not facing 4 random people that hooked up to do a party for some casual play. It tends to be 3-4 players who know each other very well or wor together very well. Halo 3s community is not one to forgive people for playing sloppy....where in COD 4, you can pretty much get away with stuff like that. Better yet, play Squad Battle. The ultimate halo 3 playlist for those who want tactical and epic balled into one.
[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="hoosier7"] I don't, my point is that it's not really that either require more skill than the other, i just think that one can be played more tactically then the other.pi3m4sterTeam Slayer, Halo 3 is nothing but playing tactically. Once you hit 30s, you're not facing 4 random people that hooked up to do a party for some casual play. It tends to be 3-4 players who know each other very well or wor together very well. Halo 3s community is not one to forgive people for playing sloppy....where in COD 4, you can pretty much get away with stuff like that. Better yet, play Squad Battle. The ultimate halo 3 playlist for those who want tactical and epic balled into one.Or better yet play MLG, I'm trying to get my 50 in MLG, I'm 37.
Better yet, play Squad Battle. The ultimate halo 3 playlist for those who want tactical and epic balled into one.Or better yet play MLG, I'm trying to get my 50 in MLG, I'm 37.[QUOTE="pi3m4ster"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] Team Slayer, Halo 3 is nothing but playing tactically. Once you hit 30s, you're not facing 4 random people that hooked up to do a party for some casual play. It tends to be 3-4 players who know each other very well or wor together very well. Halo 3s community is not one to forgive people for playing sloppy....where in COD 4, you can pretty much get away with stuff like that. ujjval16
43 and halo 3 takes a dump on all console shooters skill wise, except maybe shadowrun and UT3.
Different styles of shooter. CoD is fun, but it usually boils down to whoever gets the first shot/sees the other first. Halo you have to make sure you're in a position to kill before giving yourself away or your opponent can easily turn the tables. Both are good fun, but as far as skill is involved Halo takes the cake. Better luck next time TC.
I still will disagree with you. Ive watched many vids of KZ2 on youtube. Firstly, most of the time, people dont even us the sights, they just hip fire. Secondly, it still only takes a few shots to kill someone, which means its easier.Halo: Aim Assist Evolved and Call of Aim Assist are both n00b friendly online.
Killzone 2 at launch required FAR more skill as there was no assist what so ever. Except the shot gun glitch.
enygma500
II really wish I wasn't posting from my PS3 so I could go into more detail.......... While I won't disagree that H3 takes more skill.......... 1) I'd like to see the KDR's for everybody making it out like COD is soo easy. I bet the majority are trash. 2) H3 to me seems to be less about who has more skill than about who has the better "super weapon" for the encounter. 3) I would guess that 40-50% of my deaths in H3 were because I was out numbered. What started off as my killl turned into my death. I would rather tolerate cheap deaths from behind than clearly be winning a gun fight only to have his teammater come around the corner and save his life. 4) H3 is just as big of a nade n' campfest as COD. The only difference is people camp the super weapons instead of random corners. 5) LOL @ Killzone 2 taking more skill than either. Set up turret, headshot, win, repeat. At least you have to earn gimmie kills (heli, dogs) in COD. 6) Halo balanced? Yeah, that BB shooting assualt rifle I just spawned with should work great against the guy over there with the rockets or the guy way up there with the sniper. 7) Seceret to Halo "skill" and dominating your opponents, control "super weapons" and...........well nevermind, just control "super weapons" FerdMertz
I dont think you have any idea what you are talking about. Calling Halo 3 imbalanced is laughable, and yes, a BR could easily take down a sniper or "superweapon" if used effectively.
[QUOTE="enygma500"]I still will disagree with you. Ive watched many vids of KZ2 on youtube. Firstly, most of the time, people dont even us the sights, they just hip fire. Secondly, it still only takes a few shots to kill someone, which means its easier.Halo: Aim Assist Evolved and Call of Aim Assist are both n00b friendly online.
Killzone 2 at launch required FAR more skill as there was no assist what so ever. Except the shot gun glitch.
bronxxbombers
I been the last to fire and the last one standing. The number of shots to kill someone doesn't make any difference in difficulty. Not when the guns don't aim themselves for you and they have recoil.
COD and Halo all your bullets go to the same spot. Killzone actually has bullet spread, which varies from gun to gun, and the longer you hold the trigger the less accurate your gun gets.
And unless the target is really far away in Killzone, no they will not use the sights. If any player is run;n;gunning they wouldn't have time to use the sights.
[QUOTE="FerdMertz"]II really wish I wasn't posting from my PS3 so I could go into more detail.......... While I won't disagree that H3 takes more skill.......... 1) I'd like to see the KDR's for everybody making it out like COD is soo easy. I bet the majority are trash. 2) H3 to me seems to be less about who has more skill than about who has the better "super weapon" for the encounter. 3) I would guess that 40-50% of my deaths in H3 were because I was out numbered. What started off as my killl turned into my death. I would rather tolerate cheap deaths from behind than clearly be winning a gun fight only to have his teammater come around the corner and save his life. 4) H3 is just as big of a nade n' campfest as COD. The only difference is people camp the super weapons instead of random corners. 5) LOL @ Killzone 2 taking more skill than either. Set up turret, headshot, win, repeat. At least you have to earn gimmie kills (heli, dogs) in COD. 6) Halo balanced? Yeah, that BB shooting assualt rifle I just spawned with should work great against the guy over there with the rockets or the guy way up there with the sniper. 7) Seceret to Halo "skill" and dominating your opponents, control "super weapons" and...........well nevermind, just control "super weapons" -DrRobotnik-
I dont think you have any idea what you are talking about. Calling Halo 3 imbalanced is laughable, and yes, a BR could easily take down a sniper or "superweapon" if used effectively.
It is called communication, also the BR can take down anything, if you are good enough, in H3 you acually have to aim your grenades. Controling super weps also takes alot of skill, and are a big part of the game and can game the tides for the losing team, It makes it balanced.
the only playlist where it is actually possible to camp is Doubles. Anywhere else and sitting round a corner with a power weapon will get you killed fast4) H3 is just as big of a nade n' campfest as COD. The only difference is people camp the super weapons instead of random corners.
Ever heard of MAgnum? Or burst fire? Or not dying in the first place? Or teammates with more powerful weapons?6) Halo balanced? Yeah, that BB shooting assualt rifle I just spawned with should work great against the guy over there with the rockets or the guy way up there with the sniper.
again they are easily counterable. sound like you're just not very good7) Seceret to Halo "skill" and dominating your opponents, control "super weapons" and...........well nevermind, just control "super weapons"
[QUOTE="ujjval16"] Squad > MLG [QUOTE="FerdMertz"] the only playlist where it is actually possible to camp is Doubles. Anywhere else and sitting round a corner with a power weapon will get you killed fastEver heard of MAgnum? Or burst fire? Or not dying in the first place? Or teammates with more powerful weapons?6) Halo balanced? Yeah, that BB shooting assualt rifle I just spawned with should work great against the guy over there with the rockets or the guy way up there with the sniper.pi3m4ster
again they are easily counterable. sound like you're just not very good7) Seceret to Halo "skill" and dominating your opponents, control "super weapons" and...........well nevermind, just control "super weapons"
I agree with everything but the bolded MLG>>>>>>>>sqaud skill wise, easily.
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