GameTrailers Annoyed Gamer Marcus: The 360 is holding back gaming

They either state the 360 uses more power or they use about the same amount of power.
And don't forget that Lems have to pay for Xbox Live AND their electrical bills. Plus PS3 owners save a ton of money if they subscribe to PS Plus. Like i said over $1200 of content.

About the exclusive games, whether you like them or not the PS3 exclusive list looks far more impressive. Also the PS3 is still pumping out new IP's while the 360 only goes with Halo, Gears and Forza. And no i don't like using batteries, plugging in a cable in one controller and use the other recharged controller works much better for me.

Davekeeh

The difference being that an Xbox user will get his updates in 5 seconds and you'll be waiting 20 minutes to hours for updates, patches and downloads, this is time that the system is sucking down juice but you are not using it for your entertainment.

Not to mention the cost of having your identity stolen on PSN, the cost of YOUR FREE TIME in waiting for things to happen, the inconvenience of having the network down for months at a time, etc.

PS+ seems like a bargain however you have to install games, and even a 320GB drive fills up fast and PSN is generally very primative and slow.

I'm not a big fan of Halo but personally I think Gears takes a flying dump all over Uncharted in terms of being actually fun to play.

For every PS3 exclusive, there's a 360 multiplat that does the same genre BETTER.

Infamous series -> Batman AA or Batman AC both of which are miles better

God of War series -> Dante's Inferno or Darksiders

Uncharted -> Tomb Raider

Killzone -> Any other FPS including Rage, Halo, CoD, etc etc all of which are better

Rattling off a list of exclusives might SOUND good for system wars, but in real terms the PS3 really has schit to offer, it's not even less expensive to own once you get down to brass tacks. The 360 is a better product in almost every way, cheaper, faster, etc.

The only downside is lack of bragging rights for exclusives, but if you think about it for a second, what came out this year or even last year that anybody cared about?

Almost everything good is multiplatform these days.

Am I the only one who thinks that there doesn't need to be new systems for a couple more years?Minishdriveby

I'm not hurting but some new hardware would be cool.

I mean it's been 8 years.

My PC is staring at me going "upgrade me" and my consoles have lost their shine.

so what does that say about the ps3? they haven't done anything innovative this gen, especially compared to the 360mems_1224

At least they're putting in effort.

Microsoft is loitering with its balls in their users mouth. Like "yeah keep massaging it. Here's another Halo. Keep sucking."

Am I the only one who thinks that there doesn't need to be new systems for a couple more years?Minishdriveby

The 360 is holding back Retro City Ransom and that's more than enough evidence to support this theory.

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]Im guessing none of the fanboys here actually watched the episode? He said MS was holding back gaming because they havent announced a new console yet, and they have no must have games that justifies it. Good lord people, watch the video and quit posting out of your behind. He said nothing of the console's capabilitiesdarkspineslayer

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="spiderluck"] i'm actually stuck in a tw@t paradox...are you speaking of ispeakfact or marcus the annoyed gamerispeakfact

waltefmoney, all his threads are annoying, he posts random drivel, he sucks at trolling, he thinks he's funny lol.

Am I the only one who thinks that there doesn't need to be new systems for a couple more years?Minishdriveby

No, you're not. I'm fine with this gen. Plenty of great games out that I havent played yet and many more to come. But I guess the new gen could come out sooner so that its already cheaper when I feel I'm good with this gen

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

They either state the 360 uses more power or they use about the same amount of power.
And don't forget that Lems have to pay for Xbox Live AND their electrical bills. Plus PS3 owners save a ton of money if they subscribe to PS Plus. Like i said over $1200 of content.

About the exclusive games, whether you like them or not the PS3 exclusive list looks far more impressive. Also the PS3 is still pumping out new IP's while the 360 only goes with Halo, Gears and Forza. And no i don't like using batteries, plugging in a cable in one controller and use the other recharged controller works much better for me.

ZombieKiller7

The difference being that an Xbox user will get his updates in 5 seconds and you'll be waiting 20 minutes to hours for updates, patches and downloads, this is time that the system is sucking down juice but you are not using it for your entertainment.

Not to mention the cost of having your identity stolen on PSN, the cost of YOUR FREE TIME in waiting for things to happen, the inconvenience of having the network down for months at a time, etc.

PS+ seems like a bargain however you have to install games, and even a 320GB drive fills up fast and PSN is generally very primative and slow.

I'm not a big fan of Halo but personally I think Gears takes a flying dump all over Uncharted in terms of being actually fun to play.

For every PS3 exclusive, there's a 360 multiplat that does the same genre BETTER.

Infamous series -> Batman AA or Batman AC both of which are miles better

God of War series -> Dante's Inferno or Darksiders

Uncharted -> Tomb Raider

Killzone -> Any other FPS including Rage, Halo, CoD, etc etc all of which are better

Rattling off a list of exclusives might SOUND good for system wars, but in real terms the PS3 really has schit to offer, it's not even less expensive to own once you get down to brass tacks. The 360 is a better product in almost every way, cheaper, faster, etc.

The only downside is lack of bragging rights for exclusives, but if you think about it for a second, what came out this year or even last year that anybody cared about?

Almost everything good is multiplatform these days.

Wow, you're dumb. Is the rest of this thread as poorly done as your post? I hope not. Congrats.

ispeakfact is jelly that 360 and 3DS has more games than PS3 and Vita.

ispeakfact is jelly that 360 and 3DS has more games than PS3 and Vita.

sonic1564

[QUOTE="sonic1564"]

ispeakfact is jelly that 360 and 3DS has more games than PS3 and Vita.

rjdofu

You're right, PS3 and Vita just have movies, not games.

ispeakfact is jelly that 360 and 3DS has more games than PS3 and Vita.

sonic1564

[QUOTE="sonic1564"]

ispeakfact is jelly that 360 and 3DS has more games than PS3 and Vita.

ispeakfact

Did you know that you push buttons and move the analog d***s to play a game? PS3 can't do that for some reason. Oh right, PS3 has movies, not games.

good, i'm glad it is holding you back, you are dicks that deserve all the misery life can heap upon you.

good, i'm glad it is holding you back, you are dicks that deserve all the misery life can heap upon you.

Riverwolf007

Don't hold back bro, tell us how you really feel.

[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="sonic1564"]

ispeakfact is jelly that 360 and 3DS has more games than PS3 and Vita.

sonic1564

You're right, PS3 and Vita just have movies, not games.

good, i'm glad it is holding you back, you are dicks that deserve all the misery life can heap upon you.

Riverwolf007

Dude. You always bring the lols and without repeating the same lame joke EVERY post. I wish more people were like that. System Wars would then at least be a shadow of it's old self.

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[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

PC falls under Microsoft, if MS decides to ruin PC gaming it very easily could (and I believe it will.) They'd be stupid not to take advantage of owning the platform and start milking the users.

ZombieKiller7

I doubt that. That's probably why MS decided to develop the Xbox in the first place because it can't do as it pleased gamingwise with Windows without attracting the attention of whistleblowers and the DoJ.

Having a closed OS isn't illegal.

If it's bad for Valve then tough schit.

I don't see a difference between Valve taking a %20 cut vs Microsoft taking a %20 cut, do you?

They'd be stupid not to. Like turning down free money.

Eventually they'll have "Live" Gold subscriptions on there as well, ads, streaming games, the works.

Just look at iOS and look at all the billions Apple is making on their App Store, iTunes, etc etc.

The OS isn't the problem. The problem is MS deliberately making 3rd-party apps malfunction or not funtion properly in order to give MS an unfair advantage.

You mention iTunes. Is MS taking a cut from the profit iTunes makes for Apple?

lol who?

I agree but I think the PS4 needs to come out just as much as the 720.

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[QUOTE="casharmy"]

I am not on the guys argument side (outside of GOW3 not being possible on 360, that's completely true as far as the best the 360 has shown) but for your post here...

You do realize that Star Ocean Last hope is on the PS3 right? I should know, I own the game.

casharmy

That is the point adeveloper will say that Game X is only possible on System Y, so Game X can sell. Truth be told the systems are pretty even with graphical power (the PS3 may has a slight edge in some ares), there is no magic chip in the 360 or PS3 that makes them significantlymore powerful.

Who said anything about magic kid. PS3 overall has more powerful hardware than 360, it always had.

There is a reason why GeOW3 (xbox360's best looking exclusvie) had to op to go with ZERO AA when it was hyped by Epic to impament FXAA and rival the AA of GOW3 on PS3 during development... While tellimg me "there is no magic chip in...blah blah blah" you need to realize this for yourself...PS3 was always the more powerful console. "Magic" need not apply.

I knew Consoles were holding back games ever since it launched. GTA4 was the biggest culprit. AdamPA1006

The 360 is pretty much equivilent to the PS3..

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

good, i'm glad it is holding you back, you are dicks that deserve all the misery life can heap upon you.

heretrix

Dude. You always bring the lols and without repeating the same lame joke EVERY post. I wish more people were like that. System Wars would then at least be a shadow of it's old self.

or this?

golly, who would ever get tired of that and wish people could think up a proper response?

who i ask? who?

;)

Listing Gran Turismo 5 as one of the best PlayStation 3 exclusives.Hmm....

Listing Gran Turismo 5 as one of the best PlayStation 3 exclusives.Hmm....

Michael0134567

And it is. The fact you dont like means sh1t. It has received critical acclaim and its the best selling PS3 exclusive till date

So the 360 became dated three years ago, but the PS3 still has three years left? That makes too much sense.meetroid8

He didn't mean power he meant with development. For core gamers the 360 offers close to nothing. He meant that there are still new experiences being developed for PS3 and then showed footage from The Last of Us to go along with that. Where his argument fails is when he DOES talk about power and how this gen's consoles lack in power. So overall, I agree with some of his points like how the 360 is just a casual box now, but his logic is flawed in other areas as well..

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

Listing Gran Turismo 5 as one of the best PlayStation 3 exclusives.Hmm....

4dr1el

And it is. The fact you dont like means sh1t. It has received critical acclaim and its the best selling PS3 exclusive till date

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

I doubt that. That's probably why MS decided to develop the Xbox in the first place because it can't do as it pleased gamingwise with Windows without attracting the attention of whistleblowers and the DoJ.

jun_aka_pekto

Having a closed OS isn't illegal.

If it's bad for Valve then tough schit.

I don't see a difference between Valve taking a %20 cut vs Microsoft taking a %20 cut, do you?

They'd be stupid not to. Like turning down free money.

Eventually they'll have "Live" Gold subscriptions on there as well, ads, streaming games, the works.

Just look at iOS and look at all the billions Apple is making on their App Store, iTunes, etc etc.

The OS isn't the problem. The problem is MS deliberately making 3rd-party apps malfunction or not funtion properly in order to give MS an unfair advantage.

You mention iTunes. Is MS taking a cut from the profit iTunes makes for Apple?

Aren't there anti-trust laws,that restrict such bussiness strategies?

Didn't MS got sued a couple of times for stuff like that already?

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

Having a closed OS isn't illegal.

If it's bad for Valve then tough schit.

I don't see a difference between Valve taking a %20 cut vs Microsoft taking a %20 cut, do you?

They'd be stupid not to. Like turning down free money.

Eventually they'll have "Live" Gold subscriptions on there as well, ads, streaming games, the works.

Just look at iOS and look at all the billions Apple is making on their App Store, iTunes, etc etc.

Rocker6

The OS isn't the problem. The problem is MS deliberately making 3rd-party apps malfunction or not funtion properly in order to give MS an unfair advantage.

You mention iTunes. Is MS taking a cut from the profit iTunes makes for Apple?

Aren't there anti-trust laws,that restrict such bussiness strategies?

Didn't MS got sued a couple of times for stuff like that already?

I know something similar (different wording) was one of the reasons MS was brought to court. I can't remember what transpired through the trial(s) though. Too busy at the time.

[QUOTE="onewiththegame"]He made a lot of good points, but every gen has a weak system that's holding gaming back last gen it was PS2 this gen for HD consoles its 360GD1551

Well his point wasn't that the power of the system was holding it back (well sort of but not directly) he meant that MS refusal to announce another console because they want to milk kinect is the reason gaming is being held back.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="spiderluck"] i'm actually stuck in a tw@t paradox...are you speaking of ispeakfact or marcus the annoyed gamerispeakfact

waltefmoney, all his threads are annoying, he posts random drivel, he sucks at trolling, he thinks he's funny lol.

[QUOTE="ispeakfact"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

waltefmoney, all his threads are annoying, he posts random drivel, he sucks at trolling, he thinks he's funny lol.

clone01

I agree with Marcus. Microsoft only care about their profit margin. They could be ruining everything their fans love but if they make a profit they wouldn't care

I agree with Marcus. Microsoft only care about their profit margin. They could be ruining everything their fans love but if they make a profit they wouldn't care

The_Gaming_Baby

The same could be said about the PS3 as well since it too has had a longer than average lifecycle.

The 360 really is most likely holding back gaming.

Same for PS3. Its a known fact each console gen should last 4 or 5 years at most.

So why can't Sony make a new console? It did not stop Nintendo. Just further proof the Sony fanboys are a worthless brainwashed bunch. It is like that Fez thread with MS charging for patches where all the Sony fanboys were going ya Microsoft is bad when Sony does the same. If Microsoft is bad for not making a new console then so is Sony.