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#1 ispeakfact
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New series. Thoughts? http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/qv6s2i/annoyed-gamer-episode-1--seven-year-console-cycle----really-
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#2 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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Couldn't agree more. inb4 waltefmoney.

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#3 waltefmoney
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Couldn't agree more. inb4 waltefmoney.

XVision84

That guy is a massive tw@t, can't believe he's not banned yet.

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#4 Gue1
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Marcus is da man! :lol:

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#5 spiderluck
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[QUOTE="XVision84"]

Couldn't agree more. inb4 waltefmoney.

waltefmoney

That guy is a massive tw@t, can't believe he's not banned yet.

i'm actually stuck in a tw@t paradox...are you speaking of ispeakfact or marcus the annoyed gamer
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#6 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

Couldn't agree more. inb4 waltefmoney.

spiderluck

That guy is a massive tw@t, can't believe he's not banned yet.

i'm actually stuck in a tw@t paradox...are you speaking of ispeakfact or marcus the annoyed gamer

waltefmoney, all his threads are annoying, he posts random drivel, he sucks at trolling, he thinks he's funny lol.

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#7 Sun_Universe
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

Couldn't agree more. inb4 waltefmoney.

spiderluck

That guy is a massive tw@t, can't believe he's not banned yet.

i'm actually stuck in a tw@t paradox...are you speaking of ispeakfact or marcus the annoyed gamer

Think about it.

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#8 Gue1
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Couldn't agree more. inb4 waltefmoney.

XVision84

:lol:

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#9 spiderluck
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[QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

That guy is a massive tw@t, can't believe he's not banned yet.

waltefmoney

i'm actually stuck in a tw@t paradox...are you speaking of ispeakfact or marcus the annoyed gamer

waltefmoney, all his threads are annoying, he posts random drivel, he sucks at trolling, he thinks he's funny lol.

Fvck...i reallky really need to stop taking drugs
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#10 AdamPA1006
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I knew 360 was holding back games ever since it launched. GTA4 was the biggest culprit.
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#11 YoshiYogurt
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The 360 sucks, no games, pay to play, high fail rate.

I've only bought halo 3, wars, odst, reach, gears 1,2,3. Cathrine and RDR. Halo 4 will be the last game I buy for it.

An extreme failure if it only offers me 10 games I want.

I would be drowning in exclusives If I had a ps3 to go along with my wii and PC.

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#12 waltefmoney
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Fvck...i reallky really need to stop taking drugsspiderluck

So does he to be honest, most annoying lemming on this site for sure.

If he's even a lemming anymore cows practically walk over him.

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#13 spiderluck
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[QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

That guy is a massive tw@t, can't believe he's not banned yet.

Sun_Universe

i'm actually stuck in a tw@t paradox...are you speaking of ispeakfact or marcus the annoyed gamer

Think about it.

Yes ..yes...it's all clear now..yes
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#14 spiderluck
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[QUOTE="spiderluck"]Fvck...i reallky really need to stop taking drugswaltefmoney

So does he to be honest, most annoying lemming on this site for sure.

If he's even a lemming anymore cows practically walk over him.

he can't be more annoying than that fvcker spiderluck
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#15 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="spiderluck"]Fvck...i reallky really need to stop taking drugsspiderluck

So does he to be honest, most annoying lemming on this site for sure.

If he's even a lemming anymore cows practically walk over him.

he can't be more annoying than that fvcker spiderluck

He makes threads constantly though.

I'm trying to concentrate on how brilliant SW usually is and here comes another one of his dumb threads.

I honestly wish cows were mods, this place would be much better.

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#16 spiderluck
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[QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

So does he to be honest, most annoying lemming on this site for sure.

If he's even a lemming anymore cows practically walk over him.

waltefmoney

he can't be more annoying than that fvcker spiderluck

He makes threads constantly though.

I'm trying to concentrate on how brilliant SW usually is and here comes another one of his dumb threads.

I honestly wish cows were mods, this place would be much better.

we can only dream my friend
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#17 ispeakfact
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[QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

That guy is a massive tw@t, can't believe he's not banned yet.

waltefmoney

i'm actually stuck in a tw@t paradox...are you speaking of ispeakfact or marcus the annoyed gamer

waltefmoney, all his threads are annoying, he posts random drivel, he sucks at trolling, he thinks he's funny lol.

Inform. I don't toll. You are now informed of the 360 holding back gaming. I'm an informer. :cool:
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#18 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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they want to milk the 360 for all its worthMarcus
No **** it's business. They still got casuals running out to buy an Xbox and Kinect hand over fist. Why take the risk of a new console, and ya know...innovating...until they are sure it's absolutely ready...IIRC, It's burned them before...
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#19 Swift_Boss_A
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They certainly are holding back Retro City Rampage :(
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#20 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="spiderluck"] i'm actually stuck in a tw@t paradox...are you speaking of ispeakfact or marcus the annoyed gamerispeakfact

waltefmoney, all his threads are annoying, he posts random drivel, he sucks at trolling, he thinks he's funny lol.

Inform. I don't toll. You are now informed of the 360 holding back gaming. I'm an informer. :cool:

Are you a reader?

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#21 kuraimen
Member since 2010 • 28078 Posts
M$ holds back everything they touch.
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#22 majadamus
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It was only a matter of time before Marcus Beer got his own show. He really outshines Shane in the Invisible Wall episodes.
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#23 Shift05
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I knew 360 was holding back games ever since it launched. GTA4 was the biggest culprit. AdamPA1006
Why would GTAIV be any indication of the 360 holding back gaming? The 360 version ran in a native HD resolution, while the PS3 version was sub HD, the 360 version also averaged more frames per second than the PS3 version as well. Comparing Skyrim between each console version, should be a strong indication that the 360 is stronger when it comes to open world games.

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#24 navyguy21
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Im guessing none of the fanboys here actually watched the episode? He said MS was holding back gaming because they havent announced a new console yet, and they have no must have games that justifies it. Good lord people, watch the video and quit posting out of your behind. He said nothing of the console's capabilities
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Im guessing none of the fanboys here actually watched the episode? He said MS was holding back gaming because they havent announced a new console yet, and they have no must have games that justifies it. Good lord people, watch the video and quit posting out of your behind. He said nothing of the console's capabilitiesnavyguy21
He kinda did. At some point in the video, he insinuates that in his opinion the 360 topped out 3 years ago, and the PS3 is just getting started. I'm inclined to agree, but for one fact...the 360 only topped out a short time ago, with Gears 3.
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#26 kalipekona
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All the consoles are holding back gaming. Both microsft and Sony need to announce new consoles.
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#27 navyguy21
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[QUOTE="navyguy21"]Im guessing none of the fanboys here actually watched the episode? He said MS was holding back gaming because they havent announced a new console yet, and they have no must have games that justifies it. Good lord people, watch the video and quit posting out of your behind. He said nothing of the console's capabilitiesdarkspineslayer
He kinda did. At some point in the video, he insinuates that in his opinion the 360 topped out 3 years ago, and the PS3 is just getting started. I'm inclined to agree, but for one fact...the 360 only topped out a short time ago, with Gears 3.

Lets assume you(and marcus) are correct. That still has little to do with 360 holding back gaming, especially if you consider multiplats usually looking/running better on 360. Not to mention there are games on the platform that are multiplat that look just as good as the exclusives. Only fanboys hold on to this notion that the PS3 is so much more advanced graphically. Sony has more/better devs, thats the extent of the PS3s advantages.
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#28 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="navyguy21"]Im guessing none of the fanboys here actually watched the episode? He said MS was holding back gaming because they havent announced a new console yet, and they have no must have games that justifies it. Good lord people, watch the video and quit posting out of your behind. He said nothing of the console's capabilitiesdarkspineslayer
He kinda did. At some point in the video, he insinuates that in his opinion the 360 topped out 3 years ago, and the PS3 is just getting started. I'm inclined to agree, but for one fact...the 360 only topped out a short time ago, with Gears 3.

Graphics are unimportant. When I hear shlt like this, I know people are just trolling the 360 for the sake of it. The 360, being a cheaper console that released a year earlier, has held up incredibly well compared to the PS3. Sure, you get exclusives on the PS3 with a graphical edge, but who gives a fuk Thats superficial. Having a game without the latest AA or latest particle effects etc is NOT holding back gaming. Theres nothing on the PS3 in terms of gameplay or story etc that can't be done on the 360.

Did people act like the PS2 was holding back gaming last gen because its games couldn't produce grapphics as nice as some xbox or gamecube games? No.

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#30 silversix_
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Marcus fking owns. And i agree about what he said 100%
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#31 dommeus
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Surely both consoles are holding gaming back?

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#32 MlauTheDaft
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[QUOTE="XVision84"]

Couldn't agree more. inb4 waltefmoney.

waltefmoney

That guy is a massive tw@t, can't believe he's not banned yet.

So are you, not to mention that he's right ;)

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#33 deactivated-660c2894dc19c
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Both 360 and PS3 are antique by now and holding back.

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#34 the_mitch28
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Nar 360 and PS3 are both equally weak, 360 is copping the flak in this case because Microsoft isn't doing enough first party development and he's mad.

Nobodies pushing the PS3 anymore either, just because they're making more games doesn't say anything about the consoles limitations... nothing they're doing on the PS3 is particularly ground breaking.

It just came off as blind hate, seeing as the games he mentioned are multiplat..... there's nothing stopping him from playing AC3, BL2 or Dishonoured on the 360, he's just hating.

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#35 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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It's a true fact, Xbox can't even run games like Heavy Rain or God of War III, so all multiplatform games will be dumbed down for Xbox

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Expected to hear a load of sh!t. ended up eharing some really good reasons and agreed completely. He's completely right

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It's a true fact, Xbox can't even run games like Heavy Rain or God of War III, so all multiplatform games will be dumbed down for Xbox

Davekeeh

A proper discussion emerges about it with good reasons Saying "Enjoy games and stop this tribalism bullsh!t" yet you resort to stupid misguided unproven crap again.

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#38 casharmy
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Didn't expect this, Dude was on point on basically everything he said: vita = shaft, Kinect = joke and waste of money everything including the final rant. The guy seems to know his sh!t and understand real gamers, needs to be a reviewer here. Of course lemmings will get mad and not want to hear the opinion of an objective gamer and professional in the industry saying this, but there it is.

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#39 RTCWGR1SCRB6H2
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The 360 sucks, no games, pay to play, high fail rate.

I've only bought halo 3, wars, odst, reach, gears 1,2,3. Cathrine and RDR. Halo 4 will be the last game I buy for it.

An extreme failure if it only offers me 10 games I want.

I would be drowning in exclusives If I had a ps3 to go along with my wii and PC.

YoshiYogurt
yet you own one and will be buying halo 4 so gg
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

It's a true fact, Xbox can't even run games like Heavy Rain or God of War III, so all multiplatform games will be dumbed down for Xbox

seanmcloughlin

A proper discussion emerges about it with good reasons Saying "Enjoy games and stop this tribalism bullsh!t" yet you resort to stupid misguided unproven crap again.

http://www.psu.com/a007234/Cage--Heavy-Rain-not-possible-on-Xbox-360?page=0

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/230832/god-of-war-iii-only-possible-on-ps3/

If multiplatform games were to be build up to PS3's potential, 360 wouldn't be able to run it.

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#41 SaltyMeatballs
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He is right, and he also likes MS, just goes to show even MS fans are getting pissed off at this point.
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#42 Nohtnym
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I have already sold my 360. I had it 4 years (switched from normal to elite at some point though). Great games and experiences, but jesus christ the console has become mediocre (worse if you own gaming pc, like I do) lately. Microsoft focuses way too much on that unresponsive POS kinect.

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#43 ZoomZoom2490
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pc gaming has also turned to poop since xcrapo.
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#44 ToScA-
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

It's a true fact, Xbox can't even run games like Heavy Rain or God of War III, so all multiplatform games will be dumbed down for Xbox

Davekeeh

A proper discussion emerges about it with good reasons Saying "Enjoy games and stop this tribalism bullsh!t" yet you resort to stupid misguided unproven crap again.

http://www.psu.com/a007234/Cage--Heavy-Rain-not-possible-on-Xbox-360?page=0

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/230832/god-of-war-iii-only-possible-on-ps3/

If multiplatform games were to be build up to PS3's potential, 360 wouldn't be able to run it.

Crysis 2 was widely considered the best looking console game - technically - when it released. Thus, effectively rendering the statements in your link useless.

The statements are useless anyway...a developer exclusively developing games for PS3 claiming that Heavy Rain is not possible on 360, let alone "SONY claiming that GoW3 is only possible on PS3"...yeah..okay...no...bye..

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#45 GD1551
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I agree with him, but he's wrong about the PS3.. there needs to be a PS4 as well imo. PS3 and 360 are at their limits.

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#46 ToScA-
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Marcus Beers is excellent, love him at IW and I always agree with him here in almost everything. As far as 360's graphical/technical prowess goes however, being tapped out three years ago? I disagree. But Microsoft's unwillingness to push a first party agenda - which further limits exclusive developers wanting to exploit whatever juice there's left in 360 - is indeed holding console gaming back.

Financially, it makes sense for them though...they'd rather play it safe and make money off timed DLC exclusives rather than "risking" money on first party studios the way Sony does.

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#47 Michael0134567
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The 360 sucks, no games, pay to play, high fail rate.

I've only bought halo 3, wars, odst, reach, gears 1,2,3. Cathrine and RDR. Halo 4 will be the last game I buy for it.

An extreme failure if it only offers me 10 games I want.

I would be drowning in exclusives If I had a ps3 to go along with my wii and PC.

YoshiYogurt
Again with the stupid "no games" argument.
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#48 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

A proper discussion emerges about it with good reasons Saying "Enjoy games and stop this tribalism bullsh!t" yet you resort to stupid misguided unproven crap again.

ToScA-

http://www.psu.com/a007234/Cage--Heavy-Rain-not-possible-on-Xbox-360?page=0

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/230832/god-of-war-iii-only-possible-on-ps3/

If multiplatform games were to be build up to PS3's potential, 360 wouldn't be able to run it.

Crysis 2 was widely considered the best looking console game - technically - when it released. Thus, effectively rendering the statements in your link useless.

The statements are useless anyway...a developer exclusively developing games for PS3 claiming that Heavy Rain is not possible on 360, let alone "SONY claiming that GoW3 is only possible on PS3"...yeah..okay...no...bye..

Did you even bother reading the links as to why the 360 can't run those games? LOL typical Lem ignoring the facts.
By the way no way Crysis 2 looks better than:

heavy-rain-20091215021902959-3083970.jpg

crysis-2-screenshots-1.jpg

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#49 ToScA-
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Did you even bother reading the links as to why the 360 can't run those games? LOL typical Lem ignoring the facts.
By the way no way Crysis 2 looks better than:Davekeeh

A 1st party developer praising the console of the company he belongs to; that's a glaring fact that I'm not ignoring...rather listen to John Carmack, a 3rd party dev who's not bound to either company, has legendary credentials and consideres the consoles to be fairly equal in terms of practical processing power.

And of course different hardware makes a game in its state on one console "impossible" to directly port to a console with an entirely different architechture. But to claim that the graphical fidelity we see in games such as GoW3 or Heavy Rain ( :lol: ) are not doable on 360 after having seen Crysis 2 and Gears of War 3 on it? Please :lol: (not to mention statements from John Carmack who works on BOTH consoles).

Also, I'm not a filthy lem, refrain from calling me that in the future.

..typical cow response, nit-picking the absolute best picture he can find of the game he purports to be impossible on 360 whilst finding the absolute worst picture of what Gamespot considered to be the best technical showcase last year. Pathetic.

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#50 ToScA-
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Star Ocean's visuals are only possible on 360 by the way.

http://www.amazon.com/Star-Ocean-Last-Hope-Xbox-360/dp/B001LGFPSY

"Beautifully rendered combat expanding on the franchise's famous real-time battle system and only possible on Xbox 360."