FUTURE ACTIVITY- SW Debates-- PLEASE UNSTICKY AND STICKY VOTING THREAD INSTEAD

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#1 Jonwh18
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SW debates is an activity to bring some intelligent debates/arguments back to SW. Take this opportunity to prove to another system warrior that you are right, or to embarrass a troll in front of everyone. Here are the rules. The step we are currently on is highlighted in green. Want to help with tallying and compiling a list of nominations? Go to the SW debates union to help out. Link

WE NEED MORE COWZ AND LEMMINGS

DEBATE SEASON

Debate season will last for 5 months after the jury has been picked

TOPICS

1. A new debate topic will be posted every week.

2. Topic Ideas can be posted on the SW union board debate topic sticky, an officer will pick the best five to be narrowed down by a community vote via poll every Monday during debate season.

The System Wars Debates Central board were you post your topic ideas can be found here LINK

RULES OF DEBATE

1. The debater for each side will post his or her own introductory post stating their stance on the topic.

2. There will then be exactly three rebuttal posts from each debater, in which the debaters may address and refute points made by the other person, as well as adding any new points that may come up.

3. Finally, each debater will post one concluding post, summing up his or her side of the debate. Following the concluding posts, the thread will be closed.

4. Debaters may not post more than 5 posts in total. Once the 5-post limit is reached, further posts by that debater will be deleted from the thread, but the thread will remain open for posts by the opponent, until either his or her own 5-post limit is reached or until time runs out.

5. Debates will last five days each, unless both debaters reach their 5-post limit.

6. Debaters may include links to any supporting information or references in their posts. They may also quote extracted sections of text from other sites.

7. Each post will have a maximum of 500 words.

8. A jury comprised of two people from each faction will decide the winner of the debate based on what they have read after each participant has posted their 5 posts or both participants announce they have finished.

SIGNING UP FOR DEBATE.

You can sign up for a stance on a topic here. LINK

Debaters must be level ten or higher to participate.

DECIDING THE WINNER

1. Jurors will be able to discuss everything regarding the debate in the debate sticky.

2. Jurors will vote via secret ballot and will send their votes to the SW debate union officer running the debate thread.

3. The vote will be a simple majority rules.

4. In the event of a tie amongst the jury a community vote will decide the winner of the debate via poll.

DECIDING THE JURY

1. A jury members faction will be determined by what they signed up as in the SW bets thread. (Cow, Hermit, Lemming, Sheep, Manticore)

2. Jury members will volunteer and then chosen by SW the community.

3. The SW community will decide on jury members once at the beginning of every debate season via mass voting.

4. There will be a thread where SW posters can postto volunteer.

"I (faction) volunteer to serve on the jury" <- please volunteer in this format

5. This thread will be open for a week.

6. After a week has passed, the thread will be closed and then a new thread will be reopened with all of the volunteers listed in the OP divided by faction.

7. SW members can vote by listing their top two choices for each faction. Like below (example)

COW

1 Shadowmoses

2 GamerwillisPS

HERMIT

1 Stevo_the_gamer

2 Wasdie

8. The person voted for in the 1 position will receive two points and the person in the 2 position will receive one point

9. In the case of a tie the rest of the contenders for a certain factions jury will be eliminated and the process will be repeated. If there is still a tie one of the mods will pick anonymously.

10 The thread to vote in for jury members will be open for a week hours. If there is a tie the thread to decide the winner of ties will only be open for 48 hours.

PARTICIPATION REQUIREMENTS

Jurors and debaters must be level ten or higher to participate. You must also be level 10 or higher to vote on jurors.

Please begin volunteering for juror positions. The ability to volunteer for jury will last roughly one week from the time of this post. Please color your text if you are volunteering so it is easier to pick out.

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Lemmings

Platniumgamer

AdobeArtist

JohnnyCageMK

Thefatness

gamecubepad

Manticores

Blabadon

NeonNinja

CaseyWegner

ShadowDeathX

ArisShadows

Santoron

TheGuardian03

Halopimp978

Rjdofu

Mercenary Mafia

Hermits

Clyde46

SNIPER4321

Rocker6

blue_hazy_basic

Free_Milk

Darklink77

Sheep

Wanderer5

Mario1331

Super600

Thom_Maytees

kingjazziephiz

Charizard1605

LegendofNerd

Technoweirdo

Cows

Cheleman

XVision84

Slashkice

themajormayor

Obviously_Right

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#2 JohnnyCageMK
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Vote Romney
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#3 Blabadon
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I'm excited for it.
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#4 Blabadon
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Also I can't do colored font but I'll do jury duty.
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#5 Jonwh18
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Also I can't do colored font but I'll do jury duty. Blabadon
please at least conform to the format.I need to know which faction you are.

Example: I Jonwh18, (sheep) volunteer as jury member.

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#6 Blabadon
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[QUOTE="Blabadon"]Also I can't do colored font but I'll do jury duty. Jonwh18

please at least conform to the format.I need to know which faction you are.

Example: I Jonwh18, (sheep) volunteer as jury member.

Manticore doesn't count I assume?
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#7 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Sounds exciting. I don't wanna volunteer for jury duty because I wanna actually participate in the debates, but this gunna be fun
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#8 Jonwh18
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[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

[QUOTE="Blabadon"]Also I can't do colored font but I'll do jury duty. Blabadon

please at least conform to the format.I need to know which faction you are.

Example: I Jonwh18, (sheep) volunteer as jury member.

Manticore doesn't count I assume?

IT DOES ACTUALLY! You can thank Caseywegner for that :P

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Looks like I will get my popcorn ready :cool:

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#10 platniumgamer
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i platniumgamer (lem) volunteer as a jury member.

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#11 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="Jonwh18"] please at least conform to the format.I need to know which faction you are.

Example: I Jonwh18, (sheep) volunteer as jury member.

Jonwh18

Manticore doesn't count I assume?

IT DOES ACTUALLY! You can thank Caseywegner for that :P

:oops:

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#12 Blabadon
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[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="Jonwh18"] please at least conform to the format.I need to know which faction you are.

Example: I Jonwh18, (sheep) volunteer as jury member.

Jonwh18

Manticore doesn't count I assume?

IT DOES ACTUALLY! You can thank Caseywegner for that :P

Then I, Blabadonius Fire Hydrant III (Manticore), volunteer as a jury member.
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#13 clyde46
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I, clyde46 (hermit) volunteer for jury duty.
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#14 NeonNinja
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I, Prince Neon of Temeria (Manticore? Lemming? Worm? Sheep? Hermit? I can be any of those but I don't give a crap, put me on the team that has least members for all I care, so I guess Manticore but I'm cool with any of them, Cow included, let's just do this sh*t!), gallantly volunteer for Jury Duty! (I once served in the LA Superior Court, so let me tell y'all, I got mad experience ;) )

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I helped, yet i'm too drunk wo... Wat?

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#16 CaseyWegner
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"I Casey (manticore) volunteer to serve on the jury"

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#17 AdobeArtist  Moderator
Member since 2006 • 25184 Posts

This sounds promising :)

I AdobeArtist (Lemming) volunteer to serve on the jury.

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#18 ShadowDeathX
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I "ShadowDeathX" (Manticore) Volunteer to serve on the Jury.

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#19 Cheleman
Member since 2012 • 8198 Posts

where am i? what's going on man?

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#20 Jonwh18
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Tomorrow I will edit the OP and list the volunteers thus far.

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#21 Cherokee_Jack
Member since 2008 • 32198 Posts

I think what you meant to say was

Take this opportunity to prove to another system warrior that you are right, or to embarrass yourself by being trolled in front of everyone.

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#22 Mario1331
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this sounds really interesting.is it on any topic or just games? depending on what its on i have no problem debating or doing jury duty for volunteering

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#23 Jonwh18
Member since 2009 • 9350 Posts

this sounds really interesting.is it on any topic or just games? depending on what its on i have no problem debating or doing jury duty for volunteering

Mario1331

Yes, the topics should be relevant to video games.

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#24 Wanderer5
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Hm why not.

I Wanderer5 (Sheep) volunteer to serve on the jury.

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#25 Cheleman
Member since 2012 • 8198 Posts

no cows volunteering? what a joke...

I "Cheleman" (Cow) volunteer to serve on the jury.

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#26 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

this sounds really interesting.is it on any topic or just games? depending on what its on i have no problem debating or doing jury duty for volunteering

Jonwh18

Yes, the topics should be relevant to video games.

alright i Mario1331(Sheep i guess) will volunteer for jury duty. there isnt many and we need to have an even amount!

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#27 BPoole96
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I don't want to dedicate myself to a single platform for the debates. I like to argue against every platform and defend whichever I please.

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#28 super600  Moderator
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I'll volunteer as a sheep jury if possible.

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#29 Jonwh18
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[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

this sounds really interesting.is it on any topic or just games? depending on what its on i have no problem debating or doing jury duty for volunteering

Mario1331

Yes, the topics should be relevant to video games.

alright i Mario1331(Sheep i guess) will volunteer for jury duty. there isnt many and we need to have an even amount!

the jury is going to be ten members big with two from each faction (Cow, Hermit, Lemming, Manticore, and Sheep). That way Cows and Hermits don't have a giant advantage over Sheep, Lems, and Manticores. So as long as we have at least two, we're good to go. :P

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#30 JohnnyCageMK
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I, JohnnyCageMK (lemming) volunteer to serve on the jury.
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#31 Jonwh18
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I don't want to dedicate myself to a single platform for the debates. I like to argue against every platform and defend whichever I please.

BPoole96

You can argue what ever stance you want. The jury needs to be equally divided so that if a topic focuses on a system positively or negatively, the debate, not the topic, is what has the largest influence on deciding the victor. You don't have to be on the jury you can debate if you want to :P

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#32 thom_maytees
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I thom_maytees, (sheep) volunteer to serve in the jury.

Is there any way to prevent bias or favoritism in the jury selection?

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#33 Jonwh18
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I thom_maytees, (sheep) volunteer to serve in the jury.

Is there any way to prevent bias or favoritism in the jury selection?

thom_maytees

SW is going to choose the jury through mass vote. Everyone will post their first and second choice for each faction. the 5 factions are equally represented so Ideally the bias will be canceled out by opposing bias. Its not a perfect system but it was better then just letting SW vote via poll were alts and everything else can influence the winner.

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#34 Jonwh18
Member since 2009 • 9350 Posts

I ArisShadow (manticore) volunteer for the jury

ArisShadow

I almost forgot he wanted me to do this for him :lol:

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Speaking of the voting by the jurors, the winner of the debates will be decided by a simple majority (51%)? And another question: and all selected jurors must vote, so a juror cannot simply abstain from voting for any reason?

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#36 Jonwh18
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Speaking of the voting by the jurors, the winner of the debates will be decided by a simple majority (51%)? And another question: and all selected jurors must vote, so a juror cannot simply abstain from voting for any reason?

thom_maytees

Yes simple majority, and all must vote. In case of a tie their will be a poll.

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#37 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="Jonwh18"] Yes, the topics should be relevant to video games.

Jonwh18

alright i Mario1331(Sheep i guess) will volunteer for jury duty. there isnt many and we need to have an even amount!

the jury is going to be ten members big with two from each faction (Cow, Hermit, Lemming, Manticore, and Sheep). That way Cows and Hermits don't have a giant advantage over Sheep, Lems, and Manticores. So as long as we have at least two, we're good to go. :P

then i want to debate if theres no jury duty room, it seems like there is thought

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#38 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="thom_maytees"]

Speaking of the voting by the jurors, the winner of the debates will be decided by a simple majority (51%)? And another question: and all selected jurors must vote, so a juror cannot simply abstain from voting for any reason?

Jonwh18

Yes simple majority, and all must vote. In case of a tie their will be a poll.

alrite sounds good so ill go for jury duty BUT if im noy picked ill definately debate

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#39 Cheleman
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Voting? pfft,thats not bias at all:roll:

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#40 Jonwh18
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[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

[QUOTE="thom_maytees"]

Speaking of the voting by the jurors, the winner of the debates will be decided by a simple majority (51%)? And another question: and all selected jurors must vote, so a juror cannot simply abstain from voting for any reason?

Mario1331

Yes simple majority, and all must vote. In case of a tie their will be a poll.

alrite sounds good so ill go for jury duty BUT if im noy picked ill definately debate

go and claim your spot in the "debater sign up" sticky. the like to the union is in my thread or you can get to it via the three links in the OP.

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#41 JohnnyCageMK
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We all know how biased most of SW is against me.
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#42 Cheleman
Member since 2012 • 8198 Posts

We all know how biased most of SW is against me. JohnnyCageMK

i feel you man:P

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#43 platniumgamer
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[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]We all know how biased most of SW is against me. Cheleman

i feel you man:P

everybody loves you here.

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#44 ArisShadows
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I, ArisShadows (Manticores) volunteer my services on the Jury.

[spoiler] I go away to play a game, and I find you posted it and there is 5 pages already.. :P [/spoiler]

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#46 santoron
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I, Santoron (Manticore) register for Jury Duty.

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#47 The_Last_Ride
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this is exciting, this needs to be in the SW forum
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#48 funsohng
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This looks interesing, but what am I? A sheep, a cow, a lemming, a hermit, or a manticore?
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#49 GamingVengeance
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Think ill start a big conspiracy and pay the jury through PayPal to decide who wins , thus making me invincible in the world of gamespot MWUUUHAAAHAHAHAHAAHA
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#50 NeonNinja
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This looks interesing, but what am I? A sheep, a cow, a lemming, a hermit, or a manticore?funsohng

I'd say you're manticore.

Some folks have the "you need every system" to be a manticore mentality but that's for losers. Manticore is a state of mind where videogames are more important than the stupid hardware they run on. To me you've always been manticore.