. And just because you even took the time to post all this, I've been given a glance at your personality and you've shown me how sad and pathetic you are.LOL. You are judging someones personality based on something that took him 5 or 10 minutes to write. I have been given a glance at your personality, and I would tell you what I see, but I would get banned.AdjacentLives
Five reasons why PC gaming is better than console gaming
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. And just because you even took the time to post all this, I've been given a glance at your personality and you've shown me how sad and pathetic you are.LOL. You are judging someones personality based on something that took him 5 or 10 minutes to write. I have been given a glance at your personality, and I would tell you what I see, but I would get banned.AdjacentLives
[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]
1. Better graphics/Performance
Sadly pound for pound, and dollar for dollar consoles outperform pcs. If you need high end graphics pc does have the edge, but for $300 out of the box a console is going to win. Hell some people spend 1/2 that on their OS alone.
Just to the OS point, you can play games on free OSes. It might be more work to get them working, but it can be done.
2. More Games
Not all ****c PC games work w/ a new OS hence BC isn't perfect on the pc either.
Legally roms cannot be distributed so for the sake of SW arguements they don't exist. W/out roms legal emulators are useless.
You can legally create your own roms, many dvd drives can create roms from wii, gamecube, ps2, ps1. You can buy adapters for other types of media, or hook your old console directly to your pc sometime. Also, it is legal to get roms, it is just illegal to give them.
Jacobistheman
You made some good points, and I could argue some more of them, but I wanted to adress these two specifically.
hypothetically yes you can play games on linux, but it's not easy nor practical. Wine helps alot, but you still have to do a lot of work yourself, and it also depends on how well your hardware supports linux also (another reason to buy nvidia cards). Not sure how chrome is going to handle it, but it would be nice if it supported games better than linux.
Ok here's the whole legal rundown of roms, and emulators. It's legal to have them, it's not legal to distribute them. This also goes for any hardware, or software that overides any copy protection. Pretty much any talk about roms, or emulators is banned from GS.
hypothetically yes you can play games on linux, but it's not easy nor practical. Wine helps alot, but you still have to do a lot of work yourself, and it also depends on how well your hardware supports linux also (another reason to buy nvidia cards). Not sure how chrome is going to handle it, but it would be nice if it supported games better than linux.jrhawk42
My point exactly, hence my satirical"PS3 as a linux PC = no need for Desktop PC" argument.
[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]
hypothetically yes you can play games on linux, but it's not easy nor practical. Wine helps alot, but you still have to do a lot of work yourself, and it also depends on how well your hardware supports linux also (another reason to buy nvidia cards). Not sure how chrome is going to handle it, but it would be nice if it supported games better than linux.Johnny-n-Roger
My point exactly, hence my satirical"PS3 as a linux PC = no need for Desktop PC" argument.
What movie is your avy from? I remember seeing "it" on a picture with Jake Gyllenhaall in a movie theater.[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]
hypothetically yes you can play games on linux, but it's not easy nor practical. Wine helps alot, but you still have to do a lot of work yourself, and it also depends on how well your hardware supports linux also (another reason to buy nvidia cards). Not sure how chrome is going to handle it, but it would be nice if it supported games better than linux.
My point exactly, hence my satirical"PS3 as a linux PC = no need for Desktop PC" argument.
What movie is your avy from? I remember seeing "it" on a picture with Jake Gyllenhaall in a movie theater. Donnie DarkoI haven't gone looking for patches in years, they are automatic in most games now and every steam game. while on steam just look at all the awesome deals they are doing, and still 2 more days of deals. http://store.steampowered.com/early-holiday any gfw game also automatically patches the game. you will find it harder to find a game with manual patching than automatic patching now. split screen? oh year like the 10% of new console games that actually support it. where is my killzone 2 split screen or fc2, or gta4 or mgs4 or dirt 2 or nfs shift etc etc. few console games have split screen any more and lan is so much better. Splitting the screen in 2/4 just ruins the game no matter how big the screen is. it just wrecks the aspect ratio.PC gaming is great and all but it's still not better than console gaming. Mainly because you gotta go search around for patches and crap to get games to work and split screen/same screen multiplayer is pretty much non existent.
-supercharged-
[QUOTE="-supercharged-"][QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"] steam automatically patches games.savagetwinkie
Oh.. well that wasnt around when I was PC gaming. But I do know it was a major pain in the ass. Glad to see at least that's been taken care. But you can't argue about the offline multiplayer part ;).
unfortunately steam isn't universal or the standard, and it forces you to buy from steam if you want automatic updates, so no hard copy in most cases who wants space wasting hard copies? any gfw games also automatically update and then you can have your boxed copy.[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="-supercharged-"]unfortunately steam isn't universal or the standard, and it forces you to buy from steam if you want automatic updates, so no hard copy in most cases who wants space wasting hard copies? any gfw games also automatically update and then you can have your boxed copy. Who wants a digital copy that is completely worthless to anyone but the person who originally purchased it?Oh.. well that wasnt around when I was PC gaming. But I do know it was a major pain in the ass. Glad to see at least that's been taken care. But you can't argue about the offline multiplayer part ;).
imprezawrx500
I don't know about this point. You can still buy a decent amount of used games on ebay and such. Granted, many games are available for download, but generally you can still find hard copies. Ebay order, ship, and deliver is hardly comparable in terms of convenience to walking into Gamespot and leaving with a used copy of a console game.[QUOTE="Panther023"][QUOTE="jrhawk42"]
5. Cheaper Gaming
While pc gaming may have an initial lower cost per unit you also have to relealize that there's no used pc game market so you are unable to sell games you don't like/play (unable per TOS). Hence you always have to buy pc games pretty close to the retail price, while older console games tend to cost fairly little.
Also more and more pc games are leaning towards monthly costs (MMOs), and don't forget that somebody out there is paying for your dedicated servers which won't be around forever while only a few XBL games are now unavailable (due to a contract w/ EA).
Johnny-n-Roger
Digital downloads aren't worth anything to anyone else once they've been purchased. The concept is asinine IMO.
and who cares when you look at the deals steam is doing at the moment you would never even get the savings back from the extra you pay on hard copies. unless you sell hard copies within a month of release they are pretty much worthless. $20 for a game is not good value.
who wants space wasting hard copies? any gfw games also automatically update and then you can have your boxed copy. Who wants a digital copy that is completely worthless to anyone but the person who originally purchased it?[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] unfortunately steam isn't universal or the standard, and it forces you to buy from steam if you want automatic updates, so no hard copy in most casesJohnny-n-Roger
LOL, wut? And is that person going to play the game, if yes, then how is it worthless?
Who wants a digital copy that is completely worthless to anyone but the person who originally purchased it?
Johnny-n-Roger
I don't sell any of my games, if you end up selling them then they weren't a memorable experience; where they? Sounds like disposable gaming.
Could you write up an essay on a PS3? .[QUOTE="Deadly_Fatalis"][QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"] 1. I mean honestly, who needs a Windows PC when they have a PS3? What you can do and what is practical are two different things.
2. Same as above regarding "legal" roms. Where as this is possible, it is not at all practical. Good luck configuring a rig to run a commercial PS2, XBOX, or Gamecube game at a playable speed.
Johnny-n-Roger
Yes.
Photoshop, maya, cinema 4d, final cut, logic, wow, crysis, stalker, sc2, true hd (lol no 720p or lol 600p), mathematica, burn a cd/dvd/blu ray, do your own mods, play around with the unreal development kit, run simulations, decryption, etc. ?
Can your "ps3 it only does everything" actually do what I mentioned above?
You guys can't even crappy run any sort ppc linux on the slim now.
And IBM provides the cell sdk and a cell emulation tool, the rsx is just a crippled 7800 gt. Emulation would do the trick, after all we're talking about 220 gflops capable hardware.
who wants space wasting hard copies? any gfw games also automatically update and then you can have your boxed copy. Who wants a digital copy that is completely worthless to anyone but the person who originally purchased it?[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] unfortunately steam isn't universal or the standard, and it forces you to buy from steam if you want automatic updates, so no hard copy in most casesJohnny-n-Roger
The person who originally purchased it?
[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"]
who wants space wasting hard copies? any gfw games also automatically update and then you can have your boxed copy. imprezawrx500Who wants a digital copy that is completely worthless to anyone but the person who originally purchased it?
LOL, wut? And is that person going to play the game, if yes, then how is it worthless?
You must have misread my post. My point was that by paying for a digital download, you have essentially purchased something that is of no resale value.[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"]
Could you write up an essay on a PS3? .Deadly_Fatalis
Yes.
Photoshop, maya, cinema 4d, final cut, logic, wow, crysis, stalker, sc2, true hd (lol no 720p or lol 600p), mathematica, burn a cd/dvd/blu ray, do your own mods, play around with the unreal development kit, run simulations, decryption, etc. ?
Can your "ps3 it only does everything" actually do what I mentioned above?
You guys can't even crappy run any sort ppc linux on the slim now.
Not my point. I was merely using satire to illustrate that while the PC can do certain things, such as run games in a free linux OS, it is simply not practical. Using the PS3 as a PC is simply not practical.[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"] Who wants a digital copy that is completely worthless to anyone but the person who originally purchased it?
Johnny-n-Roger
LOL, wut? And is that person going to play the game, if yes, then how is it worthless?
You must have misread my post. My point was that by paying for a digital download, you have essentially purchased something that is of no resale value.I don't get it then, why don't you just rent the game instead?
[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"]
Who wants a digital copy that is completely worthless to anyone but the person who originally purchased it?
I don't sell any of my games, if you end up selling them then they weren't a memorable experience; where they? Sounds like disposable gaming.
That's quite an assumption based on nothing.[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]
LOL, wut? And is that person going to play the game, if yes, then how is it worthless?
You must have misread my post. My point was that by paying for a digital download, you have essentially purchased something that is of no resale value.I don't get it then, why don't you just rent the game instead?
*facepalm* I didn't know trading games was such a foreign concept to you people.[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"] You must have misread my post. My point was that by paying for a digital download, you have essentially purchased something that is of no resale value.Johnny-n-Roger
I don't get it then, why don't you just rent the game instead?
*facepalm* I didn't know trading games was such a foreign concept to you people.Well if your not gona keep the game, why not just rent it... Need logic much?
[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"]
Who wants a digital copy that is completely worthless to anyone but the person who originally purchased it?
AnnoyedDragon
I don't sell any of my games, if you end up selling them then they weren't a memorable experience; where they? Sounds like disposable gaming.
And, indeed, some games are worth disposable gaming...which isn't a bad thing. Many used games for a console right now are about $15. Pick up a game for $15, play it, beat it, sell it for about $15, and then buy the next game that looks interesting. Right now I'm doing this with Mirror's Edge. No way I would have paid $60 for this game when it first came out. But now I bought it for $15, am enjoying playing through it, and will likely pick up Rainbow Six Las Vegas or something and do the same all over again. That's not to say some games aren't worth keeping. Some have great replay value and some, well, it's just nice knowing you own the game and can play it when you want.That's quite an assumption based on nothing.Johnny-n-Roger
So it is an assumption based on nothing to think if you sell a game you don't plan on replaying it in the future?
[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"] Who wants a digital copy that is completely worthless to anyone but the person who originally purchased it?
Johnny-n-Roger
LOL, wut? And is that person going to play the game, if yes, then how is it worthless?
You must have misread my post. My point was that by paying for a digital download, you have essentially purchased something that is of no resale value.And why re-sell it?
Wouldn't it be much better to keep it? Since you bought it, means that you liked that X game by what you read on the reviews, forums, gameplay videos, story, etc.
Keeping the game'll let you later experience it again.
[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"]That's quite an assumption based on nothing.AnnoyedDragon
So it is an assumption based on nothing to think if you sell a game you don't plan on replaying it in the future?
That it wasn't a memorable experience.[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]
LOL, wut? And is that person going to play the game, if yes, then how is it worthless?
You must have misread my post. My point was that by paying for a digital download, you have essentially purchased something that is of no resale value.And why re-sell it?
Wouldn't it be much better to keep it? Since you bought it, means that you liked that X game by what you read on the reviews, forums, gameplay videos, story, etc.
Keeping the game'll let you later experience it again.
Because you don't play it much and/or you'd rather be playing something else. And I can't really speak for everyone else, but a game getting good reviews on this or that site is never a guarantee that I'll find it enjoyable or even worthwhile.[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"]
[QUOTE="Deadly_Fatalis"] Could you write up an essay on a PS3? .Major_Reeves
Yes.
Photoshop, maya, cinema 4d, final cut, logic, wow, crysis, stalker, sc2, true hd (lol no 720p or lol 600p), mathematica, burn a cd/dvd/blu ray, do your own mods, play around with the unreal development kit, run simulations, decryption, etc. ?
Can your "ps3 it only does everything" actually do what I mentioned above?
You guys can't even crappy run any sort ppc linux on the slim now.
And IBM provides the cell sdk and a cell emulation tool, the rsx is just a crippled 7800 gt. Emulation would do the trick, after all we're talking about 220 gflops capable hardware.
The PS3 can run simulations, do decryption, mathematica (or matlab because it is even better) , it has some video/photo/3d editing stuff just with open source stuff. It cant do some of it as well as x86 pcs but it can do most of it.
I recently went back to pc gaming after a couple years of gaming mainly on consoles, and after going back, I have realized it is way better.
Here is why:
1. Better graphics/Performance
It is a well know fact that the vast majority of games look better on PC than on consoles; the best looking exclusives are on pc, the best looking multiplats are on pc. Many people say that it takes hundreds or thousands of dollars to get a pc that will have these graphics, but the truth is that a 60 dollar video card, maybe 30 dollars for 2gb of ram and a semi-modern desktop (any dual core basically), which you are most likely using right now or can be bought for 400 dollars, you can outperform any console. I have a desktop that I found in the garbage with a 3.0 GHz Pentium D, and 9600 gt that I found for 60 bucks on Newegg that can run Crysis on high at lower resolution. The laptop I bought for college will also run any game I throw at it without me paying anything extra to play games (it is high end because I run a lot of engineering/math/cad programs). Also, despite contrary belief it is just as easy to game on a big screen with a pc, I do it all of the time with my laptop, using a wireless mouse and keyboard.
2. More Games
PCs have many more games than consoles, not only because it is any easy platform to develop for so many armatures create their own games, but because the pc will always be backwards compatible. I can play almost any PC game ever made. PC's don't start a new cycle of games every 4-6 years like consoles do. (Consoles do have some backwards compatibility but it isn't perfect).
The PC can also play any game from almost any console, legally if you own the game for the console. It can play games from every console except the 360, PS3. And can play almost all games for every system except the xbox and ps2 (this should change very soon). It even upscale most games, including the Wii which actually looks better when the games are played on pc. This can all be done legally if you own the original game, and has been held up in many courts.
3. Better controls
The PC has way better controls than any single console. A keyboard and mouse, in my opinion are better for controlling almost all games. Even if you don't agree, you can hook up controllers from other consoles, or custom controllers such as wheels or joysticks. The 360 controller has support right out of the box, and hooking it to your pc is even promoted by Microsoft. You can hook up a dual shock 3 with usb or wirelessly with Bluetooth (a cheap adapter can be found for 10 dollars) and possibly . The wiimote also works with a pc via Bluetooth. You can buy or build an adapter for most older console controllers for less than 20 dollars.
4. Customizable/Upgradable
Pc games are way more customizable than any console games. First of all, you can modify the control scheme of games so they are how you want them to do, try that on most console games. Mods also allow you to change aspects of the game, make a game look different, work better or have more content for free. You can also customize the performance of the game so it looks and runs the best it can on your machine, unlike consoles where you are stuck with performance issues.
Upgrading pc's is also very easy. This means that instead of buying a new machine in order to have the latest and greatest, you can get the latest and greatest by getting a new part for a fraction of the cost. You can chose what you want, and how much you want to spend, unlike most consoles. Plus, it is fun building and upgrading your PC.
5. Cheaper Gaming
The majority of the time, games on PC are 10 dollars cheaper when they game is released. (There are quite a few exceptions) They remain cheaper through the games lifecycle, and are often available for download at cheaper prices than they would be in the store. The accessories for pc are also cheaper than for consoles, and online is almost always free, unlike some other gaming systems ***cough***xbox360***cough***
I know that there are some reasons not to game on pc's: often more expensive to start out with, harder to get games customized just right, and the "need" for upgrade very once in a while... but all of those reasons are outweighed by the superiority of the pc as a gaming machine.
Please Read this before you reply, thanks
Jacobistheman
1) While graphics certainly adds icing to the cake, graphics along does not make or break, or determine one systems superiority over the other. PS2 is easily the poster child a console, despite having the weakest amongst it's competition,alsohadthe highest, most diverse and critically games in comparison. That and graphics is ultimately a thing a taste.
2) While the PC easily has the largest number of games, it also, from what I have notice so far, has been a platform dominated mostly by Strategy Games, MMOS, and Shooters. All genres I have no particular interest in. While no one platform has the perfect variety, for all the large number of games, even PC gaming is dominated by particular genres.
3) Subjective really, even you admitted this in your first sentence.Call me strange, but I hate using the keyboard + mouse.
4) While not to the degree of PC games, being able to change the control schemes of some console games. Of course, admittedly this is some, not all, so I'll give you this point.
5) True enough, but then again, for someone like me, it's pointless since PC gaming actually lacks the types of games I'm interested in (Platformers, jRPGs, Fighters, Racing games)
Anyway I know hermits will get ticked for my #2, but whatever. I even said it's from what I've seen. :P
[QUOTE="Major_Reeves"][QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"] You must have misread my post. My point was that by paying for a digital download, you have essentially purchased something that is of no resale value.Johnny-n-Roger
And why re-sell it?
Wouldn't it be much better to keep it? Since you bought it, means that you liked that X game by what you read on the reviews, forums, gameplay videos, story, etc.
Keeping the game'll let you later experience it again.
Because you don't play it much and/or you'd rather be playing something else. And I can't really speak for everyone else, but a game getting good reviews on this or that site is never a guarantee that I'll find it enjoyable or even worthwhile.But you may want to play it again sometime in future.
The last time I played quake 3 + team arena was way back in 2003, now I'm playing it again and there are still a lot of ppl on line to play with (dedicated servers ftw).
If I had sold it, either I would have to buy it again or not play it.
So, if you don't want to keep your games, why not rent them?
[QUOTE="-supercharged-"]unfortunately steam isn't universal or the standard, and it forces you to buy from steam if you want automatic updates, so no hard copy in most cases who wants space wasting hard copies? any gfw games also automatically update and then you can have your boxed copy. i never said you couldn't get automatic updates, but they aren't universal, so they are entirely conditional, some people like having a boxed copy, but having to specificly buy from steam now sux, and i normally just get agrivated if the game doesn't support auto everything so i'll just go play on my 360 instead.Oh.. well that wasnt around when I was PC gaming. But I do know it was a major pain in the ass. Glad to see at least that's been taken care. But you can't argue about the offline multiplayer part ;).
imprezawrx500
Because you don't play it much and/or you'd rather be playing something else. And I can't really speak for everyone else, but a game getting good reviews on this or that site is never a guarantee that I'll find it enjoyable or even worthwhile.[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"][QUOTE="Major_Reeves"]
And why re-sell it?
Wouldn't it be much better to keep it? Since you bought it, means that you liked that X game by what you read on the reviews, forums, gameplay videos, story, etc.
Keeping the game'll let you later experience it again.
Major_Reeves
But you may want to play it again sometime in future.
The last time I played quake 3 + team arena was way back in 2003, now I'm playing it again and there are still a lot of ppl on line to play with (dedicated servers ftw).
If I had sold it, either I would have to buy it again or not play it.
So, if you don't want to keep your games, why not rent them?
For me, I would spend a lot more money that way. I only have so much time to game. If I rented games to play through them, I would have bought the game several times over. Even with the subscriptions like gamefly, it's still cheaper for me to buy the game most of the time because of how long it takes to play through them.Because you don't play it much and/or you'd rather be playing something else. And I can't really speak for everyone else, but a game getting good reviews on this or that site is never a guarantee that I'll find it enjoyable or even worthwhile.[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"][QUOTE="Major_Reeves"]
And why re-sell it?
Wouldn't it be much better to keep it? Since you bought it, means that you liked that X game by what you read on the reviews, forums, gameplay videos, story, etc.
Keeping the game'll let you later experience it again.
Major_Reeves
But you may want to play it again sometime in future.
The last time I played quake 3 + team arena was way back in 2003, now I'm playing it again and there are still a lot of ppl on line to play with (dedicated servers ftw).
If I had sold it, either I would have to buy it again or not play it.
So, if you don't want to keep your games, why not rent them?
dedicated servers don't make a difference in whether or not people are still playing, in fact i'd rather have live and p2p, so the dedicated servers can't be pulled due to funding.[QUOTE="Major_Reeves"][QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"] Because you don't play it much and/or you'd rather be playing something else. And I can't really speak for everyone else, but a game getting good reviews on this or that site is never a guarantee that I'll find it enjoyable or even worthwhile.Panther023
But you may want to play it again sometime in future.
The last time I played quake 3 + team arena was way back in 2003, now I'm playing it again and there are still a lot of ppl on line to play with (dedicated servers ftw).
If I had sold it, either I would have to buy it again or not play it.
So, if you don't want to keep your games, why not rent them?
For me, I would spend a lot more money that way. I only have so much time to game. If I rented games to play through them, I would have bought the game several times over. Even with the subscriptions like gamefly, it's still cheaper for me to buy the game most of the time because of how long it takes to play through them. unless it has a short campaign, and not much else, in fact most of this gen i've managed to bang out most of the games i got in a week, MGS4 being my fastest since i didn't have to play really, just left it on and watched until i got to play, did homework in between cutscenes, but it took me 2 days, and then i just returned it.[QUOTE="Major_Reeves"][QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"] Because you don't play it much and/or you'd rather be playing something else. And I can't really speak for everyone else, but a game getting good reviews on this or that site is never a guarantee that I'll find it enjoyable or even worthwhile.savagetwinkie
But you may want to play it again sometime in future.
The last time I played quake 3 + team arena was way back in 2003, now I'm playing it again and there are still a lot of ppl on line to play with (dedicated servers ftw).
If I had sold it, either I would have to buy it again or not play it.
So, if you don't want to keep your games, why not rent them?
dedicated servers don't make a difference in whether or not people are still playing, in fact i'd rather have live and p2p, so the dedicated servers can't be pulled due to funding. 0_0 Chances of having a P2P server pulled are a lot better than having all the dedicated servers pulled....Do you think games like counterstrike would still be around if it were hosted P2P? P2P networks actually make the game more likely to ended because it relies solely on the publisher to fund it.[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="Major_Reeves"]dedicated servers don't make a difference in whether or not people are still playing, in fact i'd rather have live and p2p, so the dedicated servers can't be pulled due to funding. 0_0 Chances of having a P2P server pulled are a lot better than having all the dedicated servers pulled....Do you think games like counterstrike would still be around if it were hosted P2P? P2P networks actually make the game more likely to ended because it relies solely on the publisher to fund it. no, live is paid service and even then, they only need a gateway server, not a play server so it would be infinitly cheaper then to keep up then dedicated servers, in fact it would be the same server they use to give you the host of all the dedicated servers, you know that list you see when you pick a server? that comes from the dev's gateway, but instead of dedicated server a p2p system has players, and just picks one automaticlyBut you may want to play it again sometime in future.
The last time I played quake 3 + team arena was way back in 2003, now I'm playing it again and there are still a lot of ppl on line to play with (dedicated servers ftw).
If I had sold it, either I would have to buy it again or not play it.
So, if you don't want to keep your games, why not rent them?
UnknownSniper65
Because you don't play it much and/or you'd rather be playing something else. And I can't really speak for everyone else, but a game getting good reviews on this or that site is never a guarantee that I'll find it enjoyable or even worthwhile.[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"][QUOTE="Major_Reeves"]
And why re-sell it?
Wouldn't it be much better to keep it? Since you bought it, means that you liked that X game by what you read on the reviews, forums, gameplay videos, story, etc.
Keeping the game'll let you later experience it again.
Major_Reeves
But you may want to play it again sometime in future.
The last time I played quake 3 + team arena was way back in 2003, now I'm playing it again and there are still a lot of ppl on line to play with (dedicated servers ftw).
If I had sold it, either I would have to buy it again or not play it.
So, if you don't want to keep your games, why not rent them?
I'm not sure how I gave you the impression that I buy a game with the intent of trading it in. I buy a game with the intent of completing and enjoying it. I'll often be playing 2 or more games at the same time, yet with my busy workschedule I hardly play on a daily basis. If I lose interest in orfinish Dragon Age I'll probably trade it in for Mass Effect 2. If not, I won't. Either way, it's not a big deal. I don't think I'll be too hard up for Dragon Age while I'm playing ME2.
In your situation above, would it have beenso difficult to......not play Quake III? Are you really that starved for a good multiplayer FPS?
As this relates to my original argument....... well, it doesn't. Digital Downloads cannot be rented, traded, or borrowed. Hard copy ftw.
explain yourself.5 reasons? i only find one and that is "opinion"
aroxx_ab
0_0 Chances of having a P2P server pulled are a lot better than having all the dedicated servers pulled....Do you think games like counterstrike would still be around if it were hosted P2P? P2P networks actually make the game more likely to ended because it relies solely on the publisher to fund it. no, live is paid service and even then, they only need a gateway server, not a play server so it would be infinitly cheaper then to keep up then dedicated servers, in fact it would be the same server they use to give you the host of all the dedicated servers, you know that list you see when you pick a server? that comes from the dev's gateway, but instead of dedicated server a p2p system has players, and just picks one automaticly[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] dedicated servers don't make a difference in whether or not people are still playing, in fact i'd rather have live and p2p, so the dedicated servers can't be pulled due to funding.savagetwinkie
Game Service Providers host the vast majority dedicated servers
...Quite frankly I hate live and I hate matchmaking. It along with RROD played a huge role in my getting rid of my Xbox 360. Simply put,
-I enjoy playing on the maps I want to play on
-I enjoy playing with the rules I want to play with
-I enjoy playing on new player created maps
-I enjoy playing with the communities found on dedicated servers
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Everytime I entered an xbox live game I was pretty disappointed in the entire system
-Forces you to play on whatever map matchmaking chooses
-No way of booting out racists,homophobes,loud people,etc
-Small games ( Im looking at you COD4,COD2,GeoW)
- No player created content
- requires a monthly fee....for them use your residential connection to host a game.
- Shooters are full of griefers,noobtubers,bunny hoppers,etc
Honestly the entire system felt like a step back...the $50 dollar fee was just icing the crap flavored cake.
I recently went back to pc gaming after a couple years of gaming mainly on consoles, and after going back, I have realized it is way better.
Here is why:
1. Better graphics/Performance
It is a well know fact that the vast majority of games look better on PC than on consoles; the best looking exclusives are on pc, the best looking multiplats are on pc. Many people say that it takes hundreds or thousands of dollars to get a pc that will have these graphics, but the truth is that a 60 dollar video card, maybe 30 dollars for 2gb of ram and a semi-modern desktop (any dual core basically), which you are most likely using right now or can be bought for 400 dollars, you can outperform any console. I have a desktop that I found in the garbage with a 3.0 GHz Pentium D, and 9600 gt that I found for 60 bucks on Newegg that can run Crysis on high at lower resolution. The laptop I bought for college will also run any game I throw at it without me paying anything extra to play games (it is high end because I run a lot of engineering/math/cad programs). Also, despite contrary belief it is just as easy to game on a big screen with a pc, I do it all of the time with my laptop, using a wireless mouse and keyboard.
2. More Games
PCs have many more games than consoles, not only because it is any easy platform to develop for so many armatures create their own games, but because the pc will always be backwards compatible. I can play almost any PC game ever made. PC's don't start a new cycle of games every 4-6 years like consoles do. (Consoles do have some backwards compatibility but it isn't perfect).
The PC can also play any game from almost any console, legally if you own the game for the console. It can play games from every console except the 360, PS3. And can play almost all games for every system except the xbox and ps2 (this should change very soon). It even upscale most games, including the Wii which actually looks better when the games are played on pc. This can all be done legally if you own the original game, and has been held up in many courts.
3. Better controls
The PC has way better controls than any single console. A keyboard and mouse, in my opinion are better for controlling almost all games. Even if you don't agree, you can hook up controllers from other consoles, or custom controllers such as wheels or joysticks. The 360 controller has support right out of the box, and hooking it to your pc is even promoted by Microsoft. You can hook up a dual shock 3 with usb or wirelessly with Bluetooth (a cheap adapter can be found for 10 dollars) and possibly . The wiimote also works with a pc via Bluetooth. You can buy or build an adapter for most older console controllers for less than 20 dollars.
4. Customizable/Upgradable
Pc games are way more customizable than any console games. First of all, you can modify the control scheme of games so they are how you want them to do, try that on most console games. Mods also allow you to change aspects of the game, make a game look different, work better or have more content for free. You can also customize the performance of the game so it looks and runs the best it can on your machine, unlike consoles where you are stuck with performance issues.
Upgrading pc's is also very easy. This means that instead of buying a new machine in order to have the latest and greatest, you can get the latest and greatest by getting a new part for a fraction of the cost. You can chose what you want, and how much you want to spend, unlike most consoles. Plus, it is fun building and upgrading your PC.
5. Cheaper Gaming
The majority of the time, games on PC are 10 dollars cheaper when they game is released. (There are quite a few exceptions) They remain cheaper through the games lifecycle, and are often available for download at cheaper prices than they would be in the store. The accessories for pc are also cheaper than for consoles, and online is almost always free, unlike some other gaming systems ***cough***xbox360***cough***
I know that there are some reasons not to game on pc's: often more expensive to start out with, harder to get games customized just right, and the "need" for upgrade very once in a while... but all of those reasons are outweighed by the superiority of the pc as a gaming machine.
Please Read this before you reply, thanks
Jacobistheman
1. Better multiplatform graphics, yeah, but only slightly. As for exclusives, Crysis is practically one of a kind, there's no other PC game out there that even comes close to Crysis's graphics. Uncharted 2 sure does though.
2. And yet PC gaming probably has the absolute worst genre diversity.
3. Opinion, a lot of people can't stand to game on a keyboard and mouse.
4. Mods are a plus, true. Don't assume console gamers are envious of them though, because not everyone cares about mods. And you think building/upgrading your PC is "fun", I think it's a giant nuisance.
5. A decent PC is minimum $500, $200 more than the most expensive console. PC gamers can't rent games and can't trade in used games for a profit.
Did you even read what I wrote? It sure doesn't seem like it.1. Better multiplatform graphics, yeah, but only slightly. As for exclusives, Crysis is practically one of a kind, there's no other PC game out there that even comes close to Crysis's graphics. Uncharted 2 sure does though.
2. And yet PC gaming probably has the absolute worst genre diversity.
3. Opinion, a lot of people can't stand to game on a keyboard and mouse.
4. Mods are a plus, true. Don't assume console gamers are envious of them though, because not everyone cares about mods. And you think building/upgrading your PC is "fun", I think it's a giant nuisance.
5. A decent PC is minimum $500, $200 more than the most expensive console. PC gamers can't rent games and can't trade in used games for a profit.
ThatGuyFromB4
Consoles games might cost more . However consoles games have resale vaule. you can trade them in or sell them . while no one buys used pc games . you cant even rent most pc games . i don't know of any store that rents pc .
As for controls pc never movies on . It will always be tied down to k&m . Unles the game is dev for that controler it will always be held down by it . every gen console controls change and advance .
1. Better multiplatform graphics, yeah, but only slightly. As for exclusives, Crysis is practically one of a kind, there's no other PC game out there that even comes close to Crysis's graphics. Uncharted 2 sure does though.
2. And yet PC gaming probably has the absolute worst genre diversity.
3. Opinion, a lot of people can't stand to game on a keyboard and mouse.
4. Mods are a plus, true. Don't assume console gamers are envious of them though, because not everyone cares about mods. And you think building/upgrading your PC is "fun", I think it's a giant nuisance.
5. A decent PC is minimum $500, $200 more than the most expensive console. PC gamers can't rent games and can't trade in used games for a profit.
ThatGuyFromB4
1. In no way does Uncharted 2 come close, its extreme linearity is a big hindrance.Arma II andShattered Horizon come closer to Crysis.
2. Absolutely and completely false.
3. True
4. True, different strokes for different folks.
5. True, but we get our games cheaper.
Did you even read what I wrote? It sure doesn't seem like it.I skimmed. :)[QUOTE="ThatGuyFromB4"]
1. Better multiplatform graphics, yeah, but only slightly. As for exclusives, Crysis is practically one of a kind, there's no other PC game out there that even comes close to Crysis's graphics. Uncharted 2 sure does though.
2. And yet PC gaming probably has the absolute worst genre diversity.
3. Opinion, a lot of people can't stand to game on a keyboard and mouse.
4. Mods are a plus, true. Don't assume console gamers are envious of them though, because not everyone cares about mods. And you think building/upgrading your PC is "fun", I think it's a giant nuisance.
5. A decent PC is minimum $500, $200 more than the most expensive console. PC gamers can't rent games and can't trade in used games for a profit.
Jacobistheman
Consoles games might cost more . However consoles games have resale vaule. you can trade them in or sell them . while no one buys used pc games . you cant even rent most pc games . i don't know of any store that rents pc .
As for controls pc never movies on . It will always be tied down to k&m . Unles the game is dev for that controler it will always be held down by it . every gen console controls change and advance .
dontshackzmii
yet they are still behind the mouse and keyboard in terms accuracy and ease of movement.
I only use my keyboard some of the time...I usually use this when I can.
Consoles games might cost more . However consoles games have resale vaule. you can trade them in or sell them . while no one buys used pc games . you cant even rent most pc games . i don't know of any store that rents pc .
As for controls pc never movies on . It will always be tied down to k&m . Unles the game is dev for that controler it will always be held down by it . every gen console controls change and advance .
dontshackzmii
In case you didn't know, you can use console controllers on the pc. ;)
And besides, you sound like being tied down to k/m is a bad thing! :P
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