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#51 Posted by iloveatlus (285 posts) -

@jessejay420 said:

@iloveatlus so you think sales = quality?

so i guess wii sports was the best game of last gen huh?

oh wait!

When did I ever said Sales = Quality?

#52 Posted by jessejay420 (3840 posts) -

@iloveatlusyou said gt sold more sothat makes other racing games irrelevant.

you obviously equate sales with quality.

so i guess that means you really enjoyed wii sports seeing as its the best game last gen according to sales lol.

#53 Edited by iloveatlus (285 posts) -

@jessejay420 said:

@iloveatlusyou said gt sold more sothat makes other racing games irrelevant.

you obviously equate sales with quality.

so i guess that means you really enjoyed wii sports seeing as its the best game last gen according to sales lol.

Yeah, Gran Turismo made other racing games irrelevant due to it's popularity and sales. That doesn't mean it's the better racing game.

Why do you feel the need to put your own words down my throat?

#54 Edited by kingtito (5018 posts) -

@iloveatlus said:

@jessejay420 said:

@iloveatlusyou said gt sold more sothat makes other racing games irrelevant.

you obviously equate sales with quality.

so i guess that means you really enjoyed wii sports seeing as its the best game last gen according to sales lol.

Yeah, Gran Turismo made other racing games irrelevant due to it's popularity and sales. That doesn't mean it's the better racing game.

Why do you feel the need to put your own words down my throat?

selling more doesn't make other games irrelevant.

#55 Posted by Evo_nine (1741 posts) -

@Heil68 said:

@Evo_nine said:

@Heil68:

U gota be taking the piss....surely

For gamers??? Where are the bloody games lol

I thought the ps4 was easy to develop for? Sounds like a mess to me and ryse is still graphics king

PS4 has more games and has released an actual retail exclusive since launch, Xbone? Nope.

As far as development goes:

The PlayStation®4 system opens the door to an incredible journey through immersive new gaming worlds and a deeply connected gaming community. PS4™ puts gamers first with an astounding launch lineup and over 180 games in development. Play amazing top-tier blockbusters and innovative indie hits on PS4™. Developer Inspired, Gamer Focus.

We are ALL humbled SONY.

PlayStation®4: The Best Place to Play™

"in development"

key word.

Im sure they've included the games that kaz thinks in his head while he's on the shitter lol

Reality is that you wont see this games for years and years and years. Look at the mess that is drive club.

#56 Posted by Underdog123x (266 posts) -

Even Playstation fans don't want this turd and they have low standards.

#57 Edited by jessejay420 (3840 posts) -

@iloveatlus i didnt put words down your throat lol.

you said it yourself lol

#58 Edited by iloveatlus (285 posts) -

@jessejay420 said:

@iloveatlus i didnt put words down your throat lol.

you said it yourself lol

Lol. When did I ever said Sales = Quality? Can you underline & bold that statement that I made?? Don't worry, whenever I lose a debate, I talk out my ass and put words down people throat too.

Forza is an irrelevant racer. No one outside of gaming forum talks about it. #Dealwithit #MoveOn or #DefendVideoGames

#59 Edited by jessejay420 (3840 posts) -

@ilove atlus you just proved my point lol.

you say forza is irrelevant because gt sold more.

and then in this same thread you went on to say all fps games are irrelevant because call of duty sold more.<<< lmao

im sorry but SW is not for you.

you should find a new hobby because you suck at this.

#60 Edited by Nike_Air (18335 posts) -

Why Col Rodgers left Evolution (former game director) -

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=106121033&postcount=1393

Shit just got real.

#61 Edited by kinectthedots (2006 posts) -

Infamous was delayed and it turned out to be an amazing game. Lemmings need stop worrying about PS4 exclusives so much they will be fine. What do lemmings gain by hoping that games they can't play are dropped or removed from production, just so they can gloat? What a desperate bunch of clowns.

#62 Edited by juarbles (801 posts) -

This game is going to be amazing. It's Sony's response to Flopza since Flopza didn't come close to GT in simulation so Sony did this arcade racer which is still more Sim than anything found on the bone. They are just making sure the game will put the final nail on Flopza's coffin.

#63 Posted by Bishop1310 (1109 posts) -

still waiting on that greatness.. This was a must buy for me.. my early adoption of the ps4 looks worse and worse at this point.

#64 Edited by kinectthedots (2006 posts) -

@juarbles said:

This game is going to be amazing. It's Sony's response to Flopza since Flopza didn't come close to GT in simulation so Sony did this arcade racer which is still more Sim than anything found on the bone. They are just making sure the game will put the final nail on Flopza's coffin.

Yes, I think this is all damage control.

This is the only time lemmings have to spew their garbage and cast doubt when the games are being made, so they are going all in.

Remember when lemmings said infamous got downgraded, didn't matter as an exclusive, it would have no impact on sales and everyone would buy an xbox one to play titanfall instead?

Lemmings and their doom and gloom predictions about PS4 and it's games fail at a higher rate than Kinect voice commands.

The only thing deeply invested lemmings can do at this point is to smear the most negative and hate filled garbage possible at promising upcoming PS4 titles. Drive Club was THE game I was going to get a PS4 for before Infamous Second Son shockingly persuaded me to go ahead and get the system now (great game).

Drive Club looks fantastic as a game, sony and evolution can take all the time they need to make it great. I am not interested in half assed mediocre games for my primary system or I would be a lemming.

#65 Posted by juarbles (801 posts) -

@kinectthedots: agree 100%. To bad lems don't understand that no gamer takes them seriously anymore.

#66 Posted by always_explicit (2932 posts) -

I cant believe people expected the PS4 to launch with a top quality racer and yet are waiting 4+ months for said racer to arrive. Its not a failure to make a great game its a failure to deliver. Which I think its pretty despicable, more-so at the launch of a new product

#67 Posted by lostrib (37646 posts) -

@juarbles said:

@kinectthedots: agree 100%. To bad lems don't understand that no gamer takes them seriously anymore.

oh yes, but you're super serious, right?

#68 Posted by kinectthedots (2006 posts) -

@always_explicit said:

I cant believe people expected the PS4 to launch with a top quality racer and yet are waiting 4+ months for said racer to arrive. Its not a failure to make a great game its a failure to deliver. Which I think its pretty despicable, more-so at the launch of a new product

It's disappointing yes, but games get delayed (like Watch dogs for example). As a PS4 owner and a gamer, I hope that the delay is for a better final product as I might hope any normal gamer would feel.

#69 Edited by always_explicit (2932 posts) -

@kinectthedots said:

@always_explicit said:

I cant believe people expected the PS4 to launch with a top quality racer and yet are waiting 4+ months for said racer to arrive. Its not a failure to make a great game its a failure to deliver. Which I think its pretty despicable, more-so at the launch of a new product

It's disappointing yes, but games get delayed (like Watch dogs for example). As a PS4 owner and a gamer, I hope that the delay is for a better final product as I might hope any normal gamer would feel.

I agree totally that the final product really is the most important thing, there is no disputing that. I just dont think its good practice, despite what my post history maybe allude to on this site im genuinely looking for reasons to buy a PS4 and and the only reason that hasn't happened yet was because of the disappointing launch (IMHO). I am not saying Driveclub was the deciding factor but it would have helped!

As I have said before, all I want is Crash, Spyro...some of the classic titles that made Playstation great! ....preferably delivered on time haha.

#70 Posted by RR360DD (11988 posts) -

This game has 7.0 written all over it. Always has.

Even forgetting about the recent departures, Evolution has always been just another mediocre sony dev.

And yet cows continue to hype it LOL dat desperation.

#71 Posted by Wasdie (50001 posts) -

Unfortunately all of this drama has been for naught...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=106121033&postcount=1393

Hello, all.

This is my first post on NeoGAF, and whilst I'm not generally one to deal in internet speculation, I have to put the record straight with regard to Pete Dodd's comments above.

Everything he has said with regard to myself and Driveclub is incorrect. It's also libellous.

As Putty (who is a personal friend of mine, and has been for about 25 years) suggests, I left Evo in February for personal reasons. The personal reasons being that my son, who is 4 years old, has been diagnosed with Nephrotic Syndrome, which is a potentially life threatening condition. I live 220 miles (4 hours drive) away from Evolution Studios, and was away from home 5.5 days a week. Given the circumstances, I could not continue to work there.

Driveclub is a great game, and the direction hasn't changed since my departure. This has been confirmed by SONY in various press releases over recent days.

I have no problem in dealing with very large projects, as I've been working in the games industry for the last 19 years, and have worked on some very prestigious titles, so there is genuinely no truth to anything posted by Mr Dodds at all. My departure (and indeed the setup of my 'indie' operation, BigRedSwitch) is 100% driven by family necessity, not some professional failing on my part.

I left SONY on very good terms. There is no animosity there, and I was absolutely nothing to do with the recent redundancies - in fact, the news of those redundancies was probably linked on here before I knew about them.

The games industry is a tough place at the moment. My circumstances with my son mean that I've had to leave secure work in order to try to make my own way in the world. This may entail getting another job. With people who obviously know nothing about the situation blackening my reputation for the sake of internet 'fame', this could be made much more difficult. It's nothing less than trolling.

I've contacted Mr. Dodd on his email address on his site. Due to the factual inaccuracy of his statements, I've informed him that he needs to remove the statements and apologise for the damage they have caused, as posting incorrect information and claiming it's true is quite simply libel.

I'm sure you can all appreciate just how difficult things are for myself and my family at the moment. I'd genuinely appreciate it if you can take my statements as word from the origin, and realise that there has been no big cover-up when it comes to my departure from SONY/Evo.

Thanks, all.

Col.

So yeah, don't you all feel a bit worse now?

#72 Edited by B4X (5174 posts) -

Famousmourtimore/ pete dodd......Just took the ban hammer from Evilore....

I guess his constant fud has caught up with him. He's an idiot.

#73 Edited by hoosier7 (3844 posts) -

Makes a lot of what's been said on here pretty pathetic. I'm actually a bit angry how some refused to consider that some of these departures could have been lifestyle choices or in this case a lifestyle necessity.

Anyway hope his son gets better.

#74 Posted by RimacBugatti (1287 posts) -

Need for Speed personally was not up to my standards but I guess that's the Need for Speed gameplay. Forza 5 was unfinished and graphically had some flaws. The graphics king in my opinion is Infamous Second Son. I think Driveclub will end up delivering to everyone's expectations. I'm hoping it's the Forza killer but that's almost impossible to produce. I'm just wondering if it's coming this year?

#75 Posted by super600 (30718 posts) -

@Wasdie said:

Unfortunately all of this drama has been for naught...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=106121033&postcount=1393

Hello, all.

This is my first post on NeoGAF, and whilst I'm not generally one to deal in internet speculation, I have to put the record straight with regard to Pete Dodd's comments above.

Everything he has said with regard to myself and Driveclub is incorrect. It's also libellous.

As Putty (who is a personal friend of mine, and has been for about 25 years) suggests, I left Evo in February for personal reasons. The personal reasons being that my son, who is 4 years old, has been diagnosed with Nephrotic Syndrome, which is a potentially life threatening condition. I live 220 miles (4 hours drive) away from Evolution Studios, and was away from home 5.5 days a week. Given the circumstances, I could not continue to work there.

Driveclub is a great game, and the direction hasn't changed since my departure. This has been confirmed by SONY in various press releases over recent days.

I have no problem in dealing with very large projects, as I've been working in the games industry for the last 19 years, and have worked on some very prestigious titles, so there is genuinely no truth to anything posted by Mr Dodds at all. My departure (and indeed the setup of my 'indie' operation, BigRedSwitch) is 100% driven by family necessity, not some professional failing on my part.

I left SONY on very good terms. There is no animosity there, and I was absolutely nothing to do with the recent redundancies - in fact, the news of those redundancies was probably linked on here before I knew about them.

The games industry is a tough place at the moment. My circumstances with my son mean that I've had to leave secure work in order to try to make my own way in the world. This may entail getting another job. With people who obviously know nothing about the situation blackening my reputation for the sake of internet 'fame', this could be made much more difficult. It's nothing less than trolling.

I've contacted Mr. Dodd on his email address on his site. Due to the factual inaccuracy of his statements, I've informed him that he needs to remove the statements and apologise for the damage they have caused, as posting incorrect information and claiming it's true is quite simply libel.

I'm sure you can all appreciate just how difficult things are for myself and my family at the moment. I'd genuinely appreciate it if you can take my statements as word from the origin, and realise that there has been no big cover-up when it comes to my departure from SONY/Evo.

Thanks, all.

Col.

So yeah, don't you all feel a bit worse now?

Wow!I hope his family is doing okay.

#76 Posted by Shewgenja (9623 posts) -

Well, that backfired.

#77 Posted by blackace (20886 posts) -

@Shewgenja said:

Well, that backfired.

On Pete Dodd, yes...

#78 Posted by 1080pOnly (1986 posts) -

ITT: Loads of people that haven't been around SW long enough to get the irony of a Heil68 post succeed in being trolled. Keep me smiling people and gj Heil68.

#79 Posted by lglz1337 (3855 posts) -

@Wasdie: this is F***** hope it goes well with his fam

#80 Edited by shawn30 (4367 posts) -

@cainetao11 said:

Report: DriveClub Director Has Left Evolution Studios

News by Joe Juba on Mar 25, 2014 at 04:52 PM

2,018 Views 10

DriveClub's development has been troubled lately, with delays, layoffs at developer Evolution Studios, and reworked design. Apparently, the list of the game's difficulties doesn't stop there. More

DriveClub's development has been troubled lately, but the problems don't stop with delays and layoffs

Man, this game is getting pelted. At this point, just drop it.

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Wasdie here hijacking the OP to post this.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=106121033&postcount=1393

Hello, all.

This is my first post on NeoGAF, and whilst I'm not generally one to deal in internet speculation, I have to put the record straight with regard to Pete Dodd's comments above.

Everything he has said with regard to myself and Driveclub is incorrect. It's also libellous.

As Putty (who is a personal friend of mine, and has been for about 25 years) suggests, I left Evo in February for personal reasons. The personal reasons being that my son, who is 4 years old, has been diagnosed with Nephrotic Syndrome, which is a potentially life threatening condition. I live 220 miles (4 hours drive) away from Evolution Studios, and was away from home 5.5 days a week. Given the circumstances, I could not continue to work there.

Driveclub is a great game, and the direction hasn't changed since my departure. This has been confirmed by SONY in various press releases over recent days.

I have no problem in dealing with very large projects, as I've been working in the games industry for the last 19 years, and have worked on some very prestigious titles, so there is genuinely no truth to anything posted by Mr Dodds at all. My departure (and indeed the setup of my 'indie' operation, BigRedSwitch) is 100% driven by family necessity, not some professional failing on my part.

I left SONY on very good terms. There is no animosity there, and I was absolutely nothing to do with the recent redundancies - in fact, the news of those redundancies was probably linked on here before I knew about them.

The games industry is a tough place at the moment. My circumstances with my son mean that I've had to leave secure work in order to try to make my own way in the world. This may entail getting another job. With people who obviously know nothing about the situation blackening my reputation for the sake of internet 'fame', this could be made much more difficult. It's nothing less than trolling.

I've contacted Mr. Dodd on his email address on his site. Due to the factual inaccuracy of his statements, I've informed him that he needs to remove the statements and apologise for the damage they have caused, as posting incorrect information and claiming it's true is quite simply libel.

I'm sure you can all appreciate just how difficult things are for myself and my family at the moment. I'd genuinely appreciate it if you can take my statements as word from the origin, and realise that there has been no big cover-up when it comes to my departure from SONY/Evo.

Thanks, all.

Col.

Col_Rodgers

Driveclub's director stepped down for personal reasons.

Hope that guys son recovers well, and that yet another Sonygaf insider falls on the sword. Cboat and Famousmortimer all banned. But yeah, this was way more fucked up than what Cboat did. Best wishes and prayers for that Col and his family.

#81 Edited by SolidTy (43779 posts) -

@hoosier7 said:

Makes a lot of what's been said on here pretty pathetic. I'm actually a bit angry how some refused to consider that some of these departures could have been lifestyle choices or in this case a lifestyle necessity.

Anyway hope his son gets better.

Some people are funny that way, believing things with no evidence. Really sad story.

#82 Posted by Nike_Air (18335 posts) -

Wasdie steals my thunder once again.

#83 Posted by clyde46 (46597 posts) -

@SolidTy said:

@hoosier7 said:

Makes a lot of what's been said on here pretty pathetic. I'm actually a bit angry how some refused to consider that some of these departures could have been lifestyle choices or in this case a lifestyle necessity.

Anyway hope his son gets better.

Some people are funny that way, believing things with no evidence. Really sad story.

Sounds like a Fox News viewer.

#84 Posted by Prawephet (310 posts) -

@Evo_nine: Infamous would like to have words with you. Infamous looks better than Ryse and it's more fun to play too.

#85 Posted by SolidTy (43779 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

@SolidTy said:

@hoosier7 said:

Makes a lot of what's been said on here pretty pathetic. I'm actually a bit angry how some refused to consider that some of these departures could have been lifestyle choices or in this case a lifestyle necessity.

Anyway hope his son gets better.

Some people are funny that way, believing things with no evidence. Really sad story.

Sounds like a Fox News viewer.

Sure does. Based on some of the comments in this thread, we have Fox News viewers reading this thread, in fact...

#86 Posted by FLOPPAGE_50 (770 posts) -

I remember when Cows hyped this as the racing game of this gen.

hahahahhaha

#87 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (14445 posts) -

Feel pretty bad for his kid and for him, that's rough.

#88 Edited by freedomfreak (40928 posts) -

I wish him, his son, and the rest of his family all the best.

#89 Posted by Gaming-Planet (14022 posts) -

Should have played it safe and made a decent arcade racer.

#90 Posted by I_can_haz (6551 posts) -

Poor guy, I wish him and his family well.

#91 Posted by MrXboxOne (743 posts) -

@Heil68 said:

Sony Worldwide Studios' Scott Rohde explains that the company, which owns Evolution, doesn't want to release the game before it's ready.

By gamers, FOR gamers, the SONY mantra for gen 8. We are ALL humbled SONY. Keep up the great work and showing us how to Live, Learn and Love.

Please LOL more DC

#92 Edited by cainetao11 (17715 posts) -

@cainetao11 said:

Report: DriveClub Director Has Left Evolution Studios

News by Joe Juba on Mar 25, 2014 at 04:52 PM

2,018 Views 10

DriveClub's development has been troubled lately, with delays, layoffs at developer Evolution Studios, and reworked design. Apparently, the list of the game's difficulties doesn't stop there. More

DriveClub's development has been troubled lately, but the problems don't stop with delays and layoffs

Man, this game is getting pelted. At this point, just drop it.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Wasdie here hijacking the OP to post this.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=106121033&postcount=1393

Hello, all.

This is my first post on NeoGAF, and whilst I'm not generally one to deal in internet speculation, I have to put the record straight with regard to Pete Dodd's comments above.

Everything he has said with regard to myself and Driveclub is incorrect. It's also libellous.

As Putty (who is a personal friend of mine, and has been for about 25 years) suggests, I left Evo in February for personal reasons. The personal reasons being that my son, who is 4 years old, has been diagnosed with Nephrotic Syndrome, which is a potentially life threatening condition. I live 220 miles (4 hours drive) away from Evolution Studios, and was away from home 5.5 days a week. Given the circumstances, I could not continue to work there.

Driveclub is a great game, and the direction hasn't changed since my departure. This has been confirmed by SONY in various press releases over recent days.

I have no problem in dealing with very large projects, as I've been working in the games industry for the last 19 years, and have worked on some very prestigious titles, so there is genuinely no truth to anything posted by Mr Dodds at all. My departure (and indeed the setup of my 'indie' operation, BigRedSwitch) is 100% driven by family necessity, not some professional failing on my part.

I left SONY on very good terms. There is no animosity there, and I was absolutely nothing to do with the recent redundancies - in fact, the news of those redundancies was probably linked on here before I knew about them.

The games industry is a tough place at the moment. My circumstances with my son mean that I've had to leave secure work in order to try to make my own way in the world. This may entail getting another job. With people who obviously know nothing about the situation blackening my reputation for the sake of internet 'fame', this could be made much more difficult. It's nothing less than trolling.

I've contacted Mr. Dodd on his email address on his site. Due to the factual inaccuracy of his statements, I've informed him that he needs to remove the statements and apologise for the damage they have caused, as posting incorrect information and claiming it's true is quite simply libel.

I'm sure you can all appreciate just how difficult things are for myself and my family at the moment. I'd genuinely appreciate it if you can take my statements as word from the origin, and realise that there has been no big cover-up when it comes to my departure from SONY/Evo.

Thanks, all.

Col.

Col_Rodgers

Driveclub's director stepped down for personal reasons.

Thanks @Wasdie. My OP was more about the game having some hurdles, not trying to speculate as to why the departure.

#93 Edited by Evo_nine (1741 posts) -

what a disaster, sony is a sinking ship.

Bail while you can!

#94 Posted by Wasdie (50001 posts) -

@Evo_nine: Ignoring the changes made to the thread?

#95 Posted by B4X (5174 posts) -

About Pete Dodd...

I can't help but laugh at his situation. He posts negative FUD news about the Xbox one for months. With over half of which never came into fruition.

Escapes unscathed.

White Knights for a couple days "With complete and utter BS FUD" for Sony and takes the axe. He tried to smear peoples reputations in the name of Sony.

Keep up the good fight Pete.

Karmas awesome.

#96 Edited by iloveatlus (285 posts) -

@jessejay420 said:

@ilove atlus you just proved my point lol.

you say forza is irrelevant because gt sold more.

and then in this same thread you went on to say all fps games are irrelevant because call of duty sold more.<<< lmao

im sorry but SW is not for you.

you should find a new hobby because you suck at this.

Yep, Forza is irrelevant and COD made every fps irrelevant last gen. If you ever go to racing event, no one mention forza when speaking about racing games. Only weirdos on the internet talk about it.

And video games, fishing & cars are my hobby. System War is just a pass time for me during work hours. Glad System Wars is your hobby.

#97 Posted by Heil68 (45161 posts) -

@mrxboxone said:

@Heil68 said:

Sony Worldwide Studios' Scott Rohde explains that the company, which owns Evolution, doesn't want to release the game before it's ready.

By gamers, FOR gamers, the SONY mantra for gen 8. We are ALL humbled SONY. Keep up the great work and showing us how to Live, Learn and Love.

Please LOL more DC

Yes, please more Drive Club. I'm buying it day 1. :D

#98 Edited by GrenadeLauncher (5116 posts) -

Rough for the guy. Hope all ends up well for him.

You see where your bullshit conjecture because you're butthurt about a year of bad news gets us, lemmings? I hope you feel suitably ashamed.

#99 Posted by lostrib (37646 posts) -

@GrenadeLauncher said:

Rough for the guy. Hope all ends up well for him.

You see where your bullshit conjecture because you're butthurt about a year of bad news gets us, lemmings? I hope you feel suitably ashamed.

how is it lemming's fault that some "insider" committed libel?

#100 Posted by juarbles (801 posts) -

Thank you Wadie for fixing shit up. This just confirms that Sony is the gaming overlord and that guy's son is going to be ok because he has supreme genes from Sony's purest and most loyal breeds. Lemmings, you should be ashamed of yourselves for trying to libel true gaming.