DOA: Last Round For PC Is Not Getting The Best Treatment

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#101 mitu123
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@FreedomFreeLife said:

Even when PC is not getting the best treatment, then PC version is still best version.

Worse particle effects, no extra stages, no soft engine for the boobs...it's basically a PS3 port, lol.

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#102  Edited By lordlors
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You do realize what the word "nonexistent" means, right? You agree PC gaming does exist as a niche in Japan, yet you contradict yourself by saying it's "nonexistent"... You don't need to visit the USA or Japan to know some basic logic... or some basic English.

Turning to insults instead and semantics. I know what it means genius. It's nonexistent in the sense no PC gaming company takes Japan seriously. The market for PC games (Western PC games) isn't there. So if it isn't there it's nonexistent. The existence of a minority doesn't really matter to companies because they need profits. The minority of PC gamers in Japan can suck it to themselves because they are few and far between. Hell I would bet most of them are foreigners living in Japan like me. The pains of later release dates of some games on Steam not to mention the unavailability of games like the Total War series or even Japanese games like Valkyria and some FF titles is just ridiculous. Answer this question then. Why do you think there are no Blizzard games that are translated to Japanese when the country just around the corner (Korea) is one of the most important market for Blizzard? It's very simple really yet your mind seem to be having a hard time understanding. You would think a Japanese translation would be easy especially for Blizzard since RTS aren't exactly known to be wordy.

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#103 mitu123
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As I thought, it's not even meant for your average gamer to buy. It's just meant for a niche that will buy this and get milked.

Same with F2P games. The average doesn't spend a lot of money, it's the niche they are aiming at that will buy the 90 dollars 'value' coin packs.

It's a despicable business practice if you ask me.

Yeah, I'm not gonna do it. I might buy an individual pack if it's interesting, but **** this season pass bullshit.

Sadly the season pass has a costume that can only be accessed by buying it.=O

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#104 freedomfreak
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@mitu123 said:

Sadly the season pass has a costume that can only be accessed by buying it.=O

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#105 RyviusARC
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@mitu123 said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Even when PC is not getting the best treatment, then PC version is still best version.

Worse particle effects, no extra stages, no soft engine for the boobs...it's basically a PS3 port, lol.

I've heard people say the soft engine makes the game look worse as it doesn't fit in with overall visuals of the game and that the particle effects weren't much of a difference at all.

PC version still gets the hair and shadows.

I wonder if modders will be able to add the missing things to the PC version.

Personally I will take 4k 60fps over the other effects, although I do hate that they are not adding the extra stages.

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#106 Lulu_Lulu
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@freedomfreak:

Damn....... was Tecmo Always this greedy ?

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#107  Edited By mitu123
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@RyviusARC said:

@mitu123 said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Even when PC is not getting the best treatment, then PC version is still best version.

Worse particle effects, no extra stages, no soft engine for the boobs...it's basically a PS3 port, lol.

I've heard people say the soft engine makes the game look worse as it doesn't fit in with overall visuals of the game and that the particle effects weren't much of a difference at all.

PC version still gets the hair and shadows.

I wonder if modders will be able to add the missing things to the PC version.

Personally I will take 4k 60fps over the other effects, although I do hate that they are not adding the extra stages.

Huh? Soft engine is about the way the breast move which is far more natural than the last gen versions, it has nothing to do with the visuals, and the current gen versions definitely has better models than the last gen versions.

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#108 mitu123
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@freedomfreak said:
@mitu123 said:

Sadly the season pass has a costume that can only be accessed by buying it.=O

Lol.

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#109  Edited By Lulu_Lulu
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And Tecmo Koei strikes again..... yet another Update that locks me out of the game until I download another 70MB Of DLC I have to pay for to use.......

Seriously now.... ****'EM !!!! :(

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#110 lawlessx
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@Lulu_Lulu said:

And Tecmo Koei strikes again..... yet another Update that locks me out of the game until I download another 70MB Of DLC I have to pay for to use.......

Seriously now.... ****'EM !!!! :(

wait..seriously?

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#111 Lulu_Lulu
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@lawlessx:

Yes

..... don't get me wrong I'l keep giving them my money but I just want it on record that I'm not happy about it. :(

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#112  Edited By flashn00b
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I imagine that people will still buy this if only to avoid another Cladun X2

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#113 Lulu_Lulu
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@flashn00b:

I know I will. ;)

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#114 remiks00
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Why in the hell would they port the PS3 version of the game, instead of the newer code?? I've noticed this with all of Koei Dynasty Warrior ports to PC as well. What gives man....

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#115  Edited By AnthonyAutumns
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DoA on PC

Cons

  • No Soft Engine
  • No Cloth Break
  • No Additional Stage
  • Less Costumes Available
  • Previous Gen Effects (PS3)
  • No Rumble Pad Support
  • No Steam Achievements
  • No Keyboard Bindings
  • No Cloud Support
  • Delayed Multiplayer
  • Developers threatened their incoming PC customers on an interview
  • Game was delayed 5 weeks for a lesser quality for the same price compared platforms (read above)

Pros

  • Current Gen Shadow (PS4 & XB1)

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As what I posted above, nothing new here, Dynasty Warriors on Steam doesn't even have an online multiplayer.

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#116 flashn00b
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@remiks00: A part of me thinks that the failure of Nippon Ichi Software's Cladun X2 pretty much gave other Japanese developers a get out of jail free card in regards to doing these sorts of things. People will still buy it because the alternative would be the developer never touching PC gaming ever again.

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#117  Edited By Articuno76
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@faizanhd said:

This $405 PC smashes through any next-gen console. Not even garbage like AC:Unity is unoptimized enough to hold this thing down.

With a 270X? Really? I have that card. And the 4GB (Sapphire) version at that. And yeah... it's great for the price but it hardly chews through the most unoptimised games out there (and it's paired with an 8350). And that system doesn't really do much with future proofing: it's just about good enough to run games for now, which is problematic as the true wave of new generation games are yet to be released as we're only coming out of cross-generation development now.

On an aside I did cancel my DOA pre-order. Not out of protest really, but because why get the PC version when, on balance, the PS4 version is just as good and can be found cheaper? It doesn't really make sense to me to get it on the PC.

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#118  Edited By QuadKnight
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I'm still getting it for the mods :3.

I'll play my PS4 version when I want things like this....

^ ^ Yes I took that pic myself lol.

The PC version will still be glorious for the mods.

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#119 ShadowDeathX
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@remiks00 said:

Why in the hell would they port the PS3 version of the game, instead of the newer code?? I've noticed this with all of Koei Dynasty Warrior ports to PC as well. What gives man....

They didn't port the PS3 version. In fact, this IS NOT a console port at all.

They took the cheap way out and ported the Sega Ringedge Arcade version, which pretty much is a PC version that requires a little modification. Hence why no Online Support.

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#120 ShadowDeathX
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@funsohng said:

@freedomfreak said:
@funsohng said:

Was wondering when you were gonna make a thread about this.

Koei pulled the same shit with DW8. Dispicable.

What happened to DW8?

PC version is based on PS3 version.

Maybe they don't have computer that are more powerful than PS3 in Japan. Maybe the concept doesn't exist. Maybe if we go and tell them "dude, PC surpassed PS3's spec a year after that shit came out" their brain might cease to function because to them that sounds so fucking batshit insane that no amount of PS4 boob jiggle can calm their constantly-blowing mind.

PC version is based off the Arcade version, not a console version.

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#121 001011000101101
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PC games have always been way behind consoles. Nothing new there.

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#122  Edited By flashn00b
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@001011000101101: Only in the Japanese side of things.

My point still stands that Japanese devs are magically immune to the idea that you shouldn't purchase games on Steam sight unseen.

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#123  Edited By QuadKnight
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I'm playing the PC version right now and other that no Soft Engine and missing stages the game is actually pretty good. It looks just as good as the PS4 version I own if you minus missing Soft Engine effects. The game is crisp and smooth, I can't say I'm disappointed with the visuals at all. Mods will make this game even more epic than console versions. Here are some pics I took, enjoy......

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#124 freedomfreak
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Be sure to turn the dirt off, mate. Just keep the wet effect.

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#125  Edited By QuadKnight
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@freedomfreak said:

Be sure to turn the dirt off, mate. Just keep the wet effect.

D: But I like my girls dirty sometimes.

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#126 freedomfreak
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D: But I like my girls dirty sometimes.

That's fine. I just think it's a bit too much. Yeah, nice breasts, but then there's some dog shit there. I can't do that.

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#128 lawlessx
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im gonna hold out till the muitplayer is ready.

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#129 LegatoSkyheart
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Installing the game myself.

Will post Video of it soon, though it does look like the best place for Fighting games this gen is PS4

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#130 lawlessx
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@LegatoSkyheart said:

Installing the game myself.

Will post Video of it soon, though it does look like the best place for Fighting games this gen is PS4

what makes u say that?

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#131 LegatoSkyheart
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@lawlessx said:

@LegatoSkyheart said:

Installing the game myself.

Will post Video of it soon, though it does look like the best place for Fighting games this gen is PS4

what makes u say that?

Well PS4 has the Best version of Dead or Alive 5 and Guilty Gear Xrd. That's two reasons to own one I suppose.

I'm not too surprised by the terrible handling Tecmo did to PC gamers for Dead or Alive, but I wish they at least put forth effort.

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#132  Edited By QuadKnight
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@lawlessx said:

@LegatoSkyheart said:

Installing the game myself.

Will post Video of it soon, though it does look like the best place for Fighting games this gen is PS4

what makes u say that?

Might have something to do with Japanese devs generally not giving a **** about their PC ports. I sorta agree with him seeing as the PS4 version of DOA is superior to PC version right now.

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#133 QuadKnight
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@freedomfreak said:
@quadknight said:

D: But I like my girls dirty sometimes.

That's fine. I just think it's a bit too much. Yeah, nice breasts, but then there's some dog shit there. I can't do that.

Oh, I see what you mean lol.

More pics....

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#134 freedomfreak
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Nice. I like that.

Did you know Itagaki flipped his shit over Lisa being "whitewashed", Quad? I haven't played much of previous DOA titles, but as far as I know, Lisa is a Latina Luchadore. And she looks Latina in my game. She doesn't look white. I think Itagaki is upset he's making something as horrible looking as Devil's Third, as opposed to this.

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#135  Edited By QuadKnight
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@freedomfreak said:

Nice. I like that.

Did you know Itagaki flipped his shit over Lisa being "whitewashed", Quad? I haven't played much of previous DOA titles, but as far as I know, Lisa is a Latina Luchadore. And she looks Latina in my game. She doesn't look white. I think Itagaki is upset he's making something as horrible looking as Devil's Third, as opposed to this.

Yea Itagaki is extremely salty about not being able to work on DOA anymore. Lisa has always been Afro-Latina.

She hasn't been "whitewashed" at all. Look at this pic comparing what she looked like in DOA XBV1 on Xbox to what she looks like now....

No difference in skin tone at all lol. The guy is extremely butthurt. I can't blame him too much though I'd be butthurt if I was working on lame Devil's Third instead of DOA too.

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#136 freedomfreak
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@quadknight said:

Yea Itagaki is extremely salty about not being able to work on DOA anymore. Lisa has always been Afro-Latina.

She hasn't been "whitewashed" at all. Look at this pic comparing what she looked like in DOA XBV1 on Xbox to what she looks like now....

No difference in skin tone at all lol. The guy is extremely butthurt. I can't blame him too much though I'd be butthurt if I was working on lame Devil's Third instead of DOA too.

And that's exactly what I mean. She looks fine to me. I don't get what he's going on about. I just feel he's bored. He hasn't got enough money to snort coke of a stripper's ass, so he has to run to Twitter to start some shit.

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#137 remiks00
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@ShadowDeathX said:

@remiks00 said:

Why in the hell would they port the PS3 version of the game, instead of the newer code?? I've noticed this with all of Koei Dynasty Warrior ports to PC as well. What gives man....

They didn't port the PS3 version. In fact, this IS NOT a console port at all.

They took the cheap way out and ported the Sega Ringedge Arcade version, which pretty much is a PC version that requires a little modification. Hence why no Online Support.

That explains a lot actually. Wow tecmo....just wow.

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#138 LegatoSkyheart
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This port is pretty terrible.

I bit the bullet, but that's because I wanted DOA5 on PC. but I will say if you are feeling sad that you didn't get it, don't be.

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@Motokid6 said:

Those are very impractical fighting outfits...

Welcome to the fighting game genre as a whole.

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#140 LegatoSkyheart
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Sweet Jesus.

Also here's a short vid.

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#141  Edited By QuadKnight
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^ ^ Great video (Mmmmmmm.....Mila).

@freedomfreak said:
@quadknight said:

Yea Itagaki is extremely salty about not being able to work on DOA anymore. Lisa has always been Afro-Latina.

She hasn't been "whitewashed" at all. Look at this pic comparing what she looked like in DOA XBV1 on Xbox to what she looks like now....

No difference in skin tone at all lol. The guy is extremely butthurt. I can't blame him too much though I'd be butthurt if I was working on lame Devil's Third instead of DOA too.

And that's exactly what I mean. She looks fine to me. I don't get what he's going on about. I just feel he's bored. He hasn't got enough money to snort coke of a stripper's ass, so he has to run to Twitter to start some shit.

This made me lol hard for some reason. So true though.

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this is a porno thread

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#143 RyviusARC
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This port is pretty bad when it doesn't even allow me to play at my native res of 2560x1440.

I have to play at 3840x2160.

But the game does run fine maxed out at 4k res with 4xSSAA.

That is literally 16x the resolution of 1080p.

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#144  Edited By uninspiredcup
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PS3 version, no multiplayer for months and £90 of day 1 dlc.

Seems like another high quality product from the best industry around.

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#145 RyviusARC
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@uninspiredcup said:

PS3 version, no multiplayer for months and £90 of day 1 dlc.

Seems like another high quality product from the best industry around.

I wish people wouldn't purchase the product until they work out the kinks and have online available.

Buying a shitting product with little to no work going into it just tells the company they can continue putting out shitting products.

I certainly am not buying the product until they support my resolution and add in online support.

Even then I will wait for a price drop.

No reason to purchase the game right now since it doesn't even support online so you are just going to be playing against NPCs.

The devs basically ripped the arcade version and did some lazy porting to PC with it.

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#146 uninspiredcup
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@RyviusARC said:

@uninspiredcup said:

PS3 version, no multiplayer for months and £90 of day 1 dlc.

Seems like another high quality product from the best industry around.

I wish people wouldn't purchase the product until they work out the kinks and have online available.

Buying a shitting product with little to no work going into it just tells the company they can continue putting out shitting products.

I certainly am not buying the product until they support my resolution and add in online support.

Even then I will wait for a price drop.

No reason to purchase the game right now since it doesn't even support online so you are just going to be playing against NPCs.

The devs basically ripped the arcade version and did some lazy porting to PC with it.

I don't get it. Movies, cost more money to make than games, yet I can quite happily buy a blueray with extra's such as dvd commentary, deleted clips, or alternate endings or extended scenes for pretty much the same standard price.

Yet, with gaming, I see price jumps from £29.99, to £39.99 to £49.99 and then £59.99. More and more and more dlc and now micro-transactions riddled into a £50 game, with people saying "oh, it's inflation, oh, games are costing more".

It never seems to figure into their heads that perhaps (just maybe) the industry is full of greedy fucks who should be shown with nothing but contempt.

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#147 deactivated-5920bf77daa85
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@quadknight said:

I'm playing the PC version right now and other that no Soft Engine and missing stages the game is actually pretty good. It looks just as good as the PS4 version I own if you minus missing Soft Engine effects. The game is crisp and smooth, I can't say I'm disappointed with the visuals at all. Mods will make this game even more epic than console versions. Here are some pics I took, enjoy......

Looking forward to 4K and beyond