Destiny locking content for DLC : New DLC area found

I would say that in this case, yes. Even MMORPGs have some kind of complete story line you play through when they launch. Destiny, on the other hand, makes no sense even when you beat the main story.. It doesn't even end on much of a cliffhanger or explain why you had to destroy the Black Garden so much as it tells you to get back on your ship and be someone.

What really has people miffed is the one thing no one is even talking about, but it's at the heart of everything that is wrong with Destiny. The story, plot and universe is left so blank that you're still wondering why you care about any of this long after the game stopped giving you any story. It gives you plenty of stuff to grind out and get, but it's all reskinned copy/pasta even when you take it on to do it in a game universe that you don't have a lot to care much of a **** about in the first place.

That is Destiny in a nutshell. They skimmed back so much from the scope and story of the game that you are left with what amounts to a Korean F2P MMO for the cost of 60-90 bucks and a promise that it might actually turn into a game at some point. I'm really not seeing where the $500 million went. That might just be the real problem. Has anyone who bought and played this game even seen where their $60 went? That is the very definition of unfinished.

I blame casual bro gamers. They should real manly games like Metro instead of trash like Destiny.

Almost posted a "gtfo" in response to the comment... well played.

Word

Update: Thread was taken down from bungie.net.

I mean let's not even say that like that's a joke, Metro Last Light is way more deserving of a spin given that it's an actual good game.

Demons/Dark Souls was a great example of how to let the atmosphere and minimal NPC's make the world feel like it's filled with a rich lore. Even the ghost of other players made it feel more lived in.

So what's Destiny's excuse? Even from a minimalistic point of view other games have done it better. Seriously...where did all that money go I get the feeling it wasn't for game development but instead it went to the salary of way too many uncreative, untalented, and unimaginative people.

That is the $500mil question. There is nothing to justify that kind of investment unless they spent >50% of it on marketing. There is less than 5% of the content in a typical MMO here and even the most expansive MMO in history was only ~$300mil.

This is basically happening with the majority of big budget games out there... Top executives with no real experience in video games with two goals in mind, making shareholders happy and having ridiculous expectations.... The industry has had too much money pumped into it, it is fucking wrecking development of numerous games..

Yeah, it reminds me a lot of how FFXIV was before A Realm Reborn. Broken game mechanics. Nonsensical plot movement. Endgame grind with seemingly no real pay off.

It may be too late. I mean, people like us bought the game by truckload and now we're more or less stuck with it. Bungie can either take themselves seriously enough to make it right or this game will become the quintessential story we tell everyone about how to overhype and under-deliver on a videogame. It's a damn shame Bungie were the ones to do it, too.

@sts106mat: I wouldn't say all the blame should be directed towards activision. Bungie made the game and had a lengthy time period for it as well.

Ladies and gentleman, I give you the future.

Same with Watch_dogs: they are already working on DLC and sequel(s) during the development of the game. Giving us a complete game in the first place is their last priority.

@R4gn4r0k: We have to go back!

Just saw a video for the Shadow of Mordor Season Pass. Looked pretty far in development... game isn't even out yet

smh

Can we go back ? I doubt it. The Evil Within and Alien are two other examples of games coming out soon that have season passes and Alien even has day one DLC about the nostromo crew. I'm sure their other DLC is being worked on as we speak.

Good thing is there are so many games coming out I can easily go for those that set out to offer me a complete experience from the get go. The ones that want to nickle and dime me are the game that I pick up as a complete version for 75% off. Complete version has become, ironically, quite literally the only version that is complete.

tl;dr

welcome to modern video games industry

I'm GLAD I decided to skip Destiny for Shadow of Mordor. Now, SoM is going to be GOTY, not this Destiny silliness.

The enemy level up/returning rival feature in Mordor alone is ten times more next gen than anything in Destiny.

Yup, that's truly next gen. Meanwhile Destiny sounds like a step back from Halo 1&2.

And all the people that bought this game have shown to them that it's ok to continue doing this. Unbelievable

I disliked Halo so didn't pay no attention to this. Do I get a cookie?

@Dibdibdobdobo: Eh I guess the original poster would've idolized you for not playing halo 2 heh.

@bldgirsh: I was always more of a Time Splitters Fan. Played Halo for a hour and was like "what is this ××××" and went right back to playing TimeSplitters.

Update: AMA response

lol paying more money for this shit

I have an inordinate amount of respect for Deej after reading that and apparently I was wrong in my previous statement that Destiny was not shipped unfinished - it was.

Joe Staten probably left because of the lack of willfulness to actually develop and prove to the fans that this is what they are making (in terms of the Mass Effect MMO idea -- which is actually the EXACT game I had thought Bungie was making this whole time.

Finally, it is an absolute shame that there are developers inside Bungie who are scared by the idea of a game with too much story - a game that relies on balancing narrative and gameplay. Those people nearly killed Destiny and have tarnished the reputation of the one of the best developers to ever create video games.

Seems I should have read more. If Deej says it's false, then it is false. Simple as that.

Which is a acceptable response.

Ahh thought you did when you said "if we can trust it." =p Lemme edit it to make it more clearer heh.

Always. Which is why i'm just updating the current events due to the discovery of some DLC being on disc.

That's what the Activision and Bungie higher ups wanted! They wanted us to buy a bare bones game to be expanded with nickel and dime DLCs. I'm not going to fall into that trap. No thank you, siree.

From a response I provided to Deltron3040 on b.net:

Bungie, more than any company I have ever seen, cares about their customers. Bungie only does what they do because of the people who play their games.

Has Destiny changed in numerous ways over the past couple of years? Of course. As every game does. I think one reason this sort of thing has come out is because of the ire that Destiny has caused in so many fans (myself included). Bungie has been creating the best of whatever genre their games falls under since the companies creation (Pathways Into Darnkess, Myth, Marathon, Halo) and now they create a game that is very good but comes with the warts? I think this sort of the "backlash" is understandable. (on the same page, I don't feel Bungie is required to provide an answer to every inane question that is asked)

I am very curious to see how Bungie weathers this storm, and I will absolutely be rooting for them.

@R3FURBISHED: Well put. I just hope bungie does their best to accurately respond on the accusations that are being presented against them.

Bro gamers usually gets tons of bang for their buck. Gears and CoD are content kings. Metro is thin on content.

CoD content king? It's just copy-pasta from game to game

It's got a new campaign, new mp maps, offline bot mode, survival modes, extinction mode; simply a staggering amount of content. The cutscenes alone probably cost more to produce than most games in their entirety.

Not sure if serious or just brainwashed

Brainwashed casual kiddie console gamer, doesn't know of hardcore bad ass games like Stalker.

@nini200: I knew Destiny was going to be shit when I played the Beta. I pre-ordered for a code and cancelled 3 days in to the Beta.

I went into Bungies forums and complained about literally everything that everyone is now complaining about. Guess what happened? I got told to stfu.

i actually posted here in SW complaining about a lot of the issues being discussed right now and, again, got called a liar and told to stfu.

After discovering all the issues first hand I cancelled my pre order. Now that I have seen rating and the backlash the game has received I know I made the right choice.

@prawephet: Bungie forums still will net you the same responses heh.

What fps games have more content out of the box Monsieur?

I've played all the Stalker games Sniper

You're confused friend. I am clone relative of real SNIPER.

Destiny makes me feel like Clark Griswald arriving at Wally world and finding out it's closed. Except Bobby Kotick is Satan and not Wally.

I wonder how different this game would be if MS published it. The original vision for Destiny sounds incredible, and I can't help but feel Activision played a big role in ****ing things up.

It's a decent enough game, but man what a disappointment. Hope to see good things from Joe Staten in his future with MS.

lol Bungie

The game is a disappointment, but I am still having fun with PvP.