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[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]Actually a 4 core Jaguar clocked at the same speed as the i3 outperforms the i3. Got benchmarks? :roll: nope pulled them out of thin air fact is that jaguar based cpu's are only suppose to on average 15% faster then AMD's bobcat's. This below will give you an idea.You talk as if millions of people own PS4s already or will own at least 19 million when it launches
also that 8 core CPU you're bragging about isn't something to be bragging about
from what I hear a core i3 with hyperthreading can outperform it
MonsieurX
So even if it was equal to a 5 year old Athlon x2 having eight cores and being clocked low. Will not give the PS4 or Xbox any real leads. Since modern pc quad core cpu's are beyond 2x faster. also a modern i3 at 3ghz willl kill an 1.6 ghz 8 core jag
Crytek and Nvidia are butthurt as **** lately wtf? I bet they're mad cuz their 4h long Crysis 3 didn't sell at all.silversix_
Lol. Why they are buthurt ? Is Sony, which is close to bankruptcy, threatening their businesses ? Nop. They just speak what they have in mind due to their experience and vision.
[QUOTE="MBirdy88"] Acording to logic all console users have PS3 and Xbox360 hardware :lol: LMAO At least, us PC System Warriors... have great rigs. OPTIONS baby :cool:tormentosUntil this holiday... Yeah and at even greater prices..
Only stupid people buy consoles at launch. They have no games. Look at WiiU, for instance.
[QUOTE="NFJSupreme"][QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] yeah i highly doubt that... most people DO NOT have a 8 core cpu and a hd 7860 gpu as a standard...far away from that... the ps4 is more powerful then 95% of people computers in their homesxboxiphoneps3
And most console gamers have wiis so what is your point? Should I compare PC to the wii? Or what about when the ps4 is launched most console players will still have ps3s and 360s but you will come in here to shout about how good your ps4 is. Should I still talk about how most console players don't even have a new console? Your points don't matter. Fact is next Gen capable rigs are available to PC players right now. I have a rig that will be able to play multiplat nextgen games better than nextgen consoles right now. So why do I care about a steam survey? Just like when you get your ps4 you won't care that most console players will still have older consoles.
So yeah the ps4 is great but won't be better than my PC.
You may have better looking multiplat games but nothing on PC will compare to 1st party dev games on the PS4...it is what it is, taking advantage of set hardware> trying to configure for thousands of possible PC configurations
So how come no console game out now looks better than crysis 1,2,or 3. Witcher 1 or 2. Battlefield 3. Skyrim. Modded gta. I could go on and on. You are delusional. Consoles eventually hit a wall PC does not. If console first party games don't look better than PC games this Gen what makes you think they will look better next Gen besides the large amounts of medication you seem to be on?
PC will have the biggest amount of exclusives this year and the next. My money is on PC. I don´t care how much PS4 will cost. I am NOT gonna shell out 500$ to play only Killzone :lol:
PC exclusives + Steam sales FTW
You may have better looking multiplat games but nothing on PC will compare to 1st party dev games on the PS4...it is what it is, taking advantage of set hardware> trying to configure for thousands of possible PC configurations[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="NFJSupreme"]
And most console gamers have wiis so what is your point? Should I compare PC to the wii? Or what about when the ps4 is launched most console players will still have ps3s and 360s but you will come in here to shout about how good your ps4 is. Should I still talk about how most console players don't even have a new console? Your points don't matter. Fact is next Gen capable rigs are available to PC players right now. I have a rig that will be able to play multiplat nextgen games better than nextgen consoles right now. So why do I care about a steam survey? Just like when you get your ps4 you won't care that most console players will still have older consoles.
So yeah the ps4 is great but won't be better than my PC.
jhonMalcovich
Lol. Nothing on consoles will ever compare to 1st party dev games on the PC. PC is about games, not interactive movies.
Starcraft 2
Total War: Rome 2
Chivalry
Red Orchestra 2
Arma 3
WoW
Star Citizen
and many others.
Console will never have these games. NEVER.
Finally learned how to play Shogun 2. What an impressive game! Console people don't know what they are missing. Simply not possible on today's console. I can't wait until Rome 2.
[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"] Acording to logic all console users have PS3 and Xbox360 hardware :lol: LMAO At least, us PC System Warriors... have great rigs. OPTIONS baby :cool:MBirdy88Until this holiday... Yeah and at even greater prices.. This holiday? Killzone and Infamous, oh what a great waste of £300 :lol:.....
Nop. It´s £300 plus £60 for Killzone and Infamous :lol:
Cows, prepare your t i ts
This holiday? Killzone and Infamous, oh what a great waste of £300 :lol:.....[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="tormentos"] Until this holiday... Yeah and at even greater prices..jhonMalcovich
Nop. It´s £300 plus £60 for Killzone and Infamous :lol:
Play with friends? gotta buy those £40 controllers! Oh my god PSN now costs £40 a year!Lol. Almost all recent console title were shown off running on gaming PCs. For example, The Last of Us. It was shown off first on PC with really good graphics, and now when is exhibited on PS3 graphics suffered a big dive in quality. Recent PS4 killzone was rumored to have been shown off on a PC too.jhonMalcovichSo much damage control..:lol: Killzone was running on non final devkits,but if you most know those are PC's with hardware emulators,the one on which Killzone ran wasn't even emulating the PS4 final specs..:lol:
Got benchmarks? :roll: nope pulled them out of thin air fact is that jaguar based cpu's are only suppose to on average 15% faster then AMD's bobcat's. This below will give you an idea.[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] Actually a 4 core Jaguar clocked at the same speed as the i3 outperforms the i3. 04dcarraher
So even if it was equal to a 5 year old Athlon x2 having eight cores and being clocked low. Will not give the PS4 or Xbox any real leads. Since modern pc quad core cpu's are beyond 2x faster. also a modern i3 at 3ghz willl kill an 1.6 ghz 8 core jag
Where is the custom 8 core jaguar on that graph?[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]Lol. Almost all recent console title were shown off running on gaming PCs. For example, The Last of Us. It was shown off first on PC with really good graphics, and now when is exhibited on PS3 graphics suffered a big dive in quality. Recent PS4 killzone was rumored to have been shown off on a PC too.tormentosSo much damage control..:lol: Killzone was running on non final devkits,but if you most know those are PC's with hardware emulators,the one on which Killzone ran wasn't even emulating the PS4 final specs..:lol: So much damage control :lol: that 4 more gb a ram will make up for the crappy APU :lol: Killzone, what a mediocre franchise, enjoy cowbot.
[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]Lol. Almost all recent console title were shown off running on gaming PCs. For example, The Last of Us. It was shown off first on PC with really good graphics, and now when is exhibited on PS3 graphics suffered a big dive in quality. Recent PS4 killzone was rumored to have been shown off on a PC too.tormentosSo much damage control..:lol: Killzone was running on non final devkits,but if you most know those are PC's with hardware emulators,the one on which Killzone ran wasn't even emulating the PS4 final specs..:lol:
That devkit hadn´t to emulate anything because PS4 is a dumbdown PC closed box :lol:.
This holiday? Killzone and Infamous, oh what a great waste of £300 :lol:.....[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="tormentos"] Until this holiday... Yeah and at even greater prices..jhonMalcovich
Nop. It´s £300 plus £60 for Killzone and Infamous :lol:
Cows, prepare your t i ts
A 7870 is $250 alone and serve you for nothing without a PC,want to beat the PS4 get a 7950 or better GPU and a good PC,i don't know maybe $800 total..[QUOTE="MBirdy88"] This holiday? Killzone and Infamous, oh what a great waste of £300 :lol:..... tormentosThat would be the best launch ever...:lol:
Yeh right :lol:
[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"] This holiday? Killzone and Infamous, oh what a great waste of £300 :lol:..... tormentos
Nop. It´s £300 plus £60 for Killzone and Infamous :lol:
Cows, prepare your t i ts
A 7870 is $250 alone and serve you for nothing without a PC,want to beat the PS4 get a 7950 or better GPU and a good PC,i don't know maybe $800 total..You realize it will be much cheaper by the time the PS4 comes out and you can get a card with the same price tag that's faster, maybe even more when Maxwell comes out when the 7850 is dirt cheap
[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"] This holiday? Killzone and Infamous, oh what a great waste of £300 :lol:..... tormentos
Nop. It´s £300 plus £60 for Killzone and Infamous :lol:
Cows, prepare your t i ts
A 7870 is $250 alone and serve you for nothing without a PC,want to beat the PS4 get a 7950 or better GPU and a good PC,i don't know maybe $800 total..800$ vs 500$, but I have Steam sales, PC exclusives coming next year such as Star Citizen, and BACKWARD COMPATIBILITY. No brainteaser for me, PC FTW
PS. By the end of the year, ATI 8000 series will be released that will overkill a 7000 series in performance.
That devkit hadn´t to emulate anything because PS4 is a dumbdown PC closed box :lol:.jhonMalcovichYou are an Idiot Steam stats owned all of you,but but Titans but but i7...:lol: The majority run 560TI and even worst 550 TI and Intel HD 3000...:lol: Most run dual core at 2.69ghz with 4GB of ram and 1 GB of Vram..:lol: And to think the 560Ti is 16 months old cost back then from $290 to $340 and 16 months latter you people have to trow out another $350 to beat the PS4 what a waste of money..:lol: Steam >>>>>>>>>>>>YOU... You people love to brag about specs you don't use..
$500..:lol:800$ vs 500$, but I have Steam sales, PC exclusives coming next year such as Star Citizen, and BACKWARD COMPATIBILITY. No brainteaser for me, PC FTW
PS. By the end of the year, ATI 8000 series will be released that will overkill a 7000 series in performance.
jhonMalcovich
[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]That devkit hadn´t to emulate anything because PS4 is a dumbdown PC closed box :lol:.tormentosYou are an Idiot Steam stats owned all of you,but but Titans but but i7...:lol: The majority run 560TI and even worst 550 TI and Intel HD 3000...:lol: Most run dual core at 2.69ghz with 4GB of ram and 1 GB of Vram..:lol: And to think the 560Ti is 16 months old cost back then from $290 to $340 and 16 months latter you people have to trow out another $350 to beat the PS4 what a waste of money..:lol: Steam >>>>>>>>>>>>YOU... You people love to brag about specs you don't use..
Who cares. ME>>>>>>> ENTIRE WORLD>>>>>>>>YOU :lol:
Much cheaper $50 less.? Oh brother oh wait i forgot to use a GPU you need a PC,so for $400 you can get a faster GPU that serve you for nothing without a PC..You realize it will be much cheaper by the time the PS4 comes out and you can get a card with the same price tag that's faster, maybe even more when Maxwell comes out when the 7850 is dirt cheap
NoodleFighter
[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]>Who cares. ME>>>>>>> ENTIRE WORLD>>>>>>>>YOU :lol:tormentosReally so what do you have what is your set up.?
What I meant is I don´t care what other people have, I ony care about what I have. I am gaming right now on my trusty 4-year old PC, Quad Core 3ghz, 16GB RAM and ATI 5870 1GB, and will buy a next gen PC by the end of the year when ATI 8000 series is released
[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]nope pulled them out of thin air fact is that jaguar based cpu's are only suppose to on average 15% faster then AMD's bobcat's. This below will give you an idea.[QUOTE="MonsieurX"] Got benchmarks? :roll:tormentos
So even if it was equal to a 5 year old Athlon x2 having eight cores and being clocked low. Will not give the PS4 or Xbox any real leads. Since modern pc quad core cpu's are beyond 2x faster. also a modern i3 at 3ghz willl kill an 1.6 ghz 8 core jag
Where is the custom 8 core jaguar on that graph? you cant add 15% onto the bobcat's results? Even an i3 2100 (3.1 ghz) vs AMD FX 4300 (3.8 ghz) i3 still edges out that cpu. You can compare a E-350 vs a i3 2100, and you can see it being 4x+ faster clock per clock. So it would take 4x the cores to even come close. it takes a AMD fx 8150 at 3.6 ghz to actually see real improvements over an i3. A 8 core jaguar based cpu at or below 2 ghz is not impressiveSo if ypu have an quad core cpu like an Athlon 2 x4 or better at or above 3 ghz you can match and surpass a 8 core jaguar cpu at 1.6 ghz.
Really so what do you have what is your set up.?[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]>Who cares. ME>>>>>>> ENTIRE WORLD>>>>>>>>YOU :lol:jhonMalcovich
What I meant is I don´t care what other people have, I ony care about what I have. I am gaming right now on my trusty 4-year old PC, Quad Core 3ghz, 16GB RAM and ATI 5870 1GB, and will buy a next gen PC by the end of the year when ATI 8000 series is released
I see so your PC is under power vs the PS4 as well you are part of Steam stats were ever you voted or not..:lol:[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"][QUOTE="tormentos"] Really so what do you have what is your set up.?tormentos
What I meant is I don´t care what other people have, I ony care about what I have. I am gaming right now on my trusty 4-year old PC, Quad Core 3ghz, 16GB RAM and ATI 5870 1GB, and will buy a next gen PC by the end of the year when ATI 8000 series is released
I see so your PC is under power vs the PS4 as well you are part of Steam stats were ever you voted or not..:lol: And he is upgrading beyond them :lol: So what then cowbot?[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]I see so your PC is under power vs the PS4 as well you are part of Steam stats were ever you voted or not..:lol: And he is upgrading beyond them :lol: So what then cowbot? Upgrading cost money specially if you want to beat the PS4,he would probably need a 7950 or close GPU which is not free in any way,what is that already $350 or so.?What I meant is I don´t care what other people have, I ony care about what I have. I am gaming right now on my trusty 4-year old PC, Quad Core 3ghz, 16GB RAM and ATI 5870 1GB, and will buy a next gen PC by the end of the year when ATI 8000 series is released
MBirdy88
[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"][QUOTE="tormentos"] Really so what do you have what is your set up.?tormentos
What I meant is I don´t care what other people have, I ony care about what I have. I am gaming right now on my trusty 4-year old PC, Quad Core 3ghz, 16GB RAM and ATI 5870 1GB, and will buy a next gen PC by the end of the year when ATI 8000 series is released
I see so your PC is under power vs the PS4 as well you are part of Steam stats were ever you voted or not..:lol:Will it be when I buy a new PC for 800$?:lol:
Who cares about specs ? What I want is to play games I already own. A big oops for cows.
PC PS4
backward compatiblity vs no backward compatiblity
steam sales vs no sales at all (no seconhand games either)
a huge pile of exclusives and multi-plats to play vs Killzone
Result: PC WTF
Where is the custom 8 core jaguar on that graph? you cant add 15% onto the bobcat's results? Even an i3 2100 (3.1 ghz) vs AMD FX 4300 (3.8 ghz) i3 still edges out that cpu. You can compare a E-350 vs a i3 2100, and you can see it being 4x+ faster clock per clock. So it would take 4x the cores to even come close. it takes a AMD fx 8150 at 3.6 ghz to actually see real improvements over an i3. A 8 core jaguar based cpu at or below 2 ghz is not impressive[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"] nope pulled them out of thin air fact is that jaguar based cpu's are only suppose to on average 15% faster then AMD's bobcat's. This below will give you an idea.
So even if it was equal to a 5 year old Athlon x2 having eight cores and being clocked low. Will not give the PS4 or Xbox any real leads. Since modern pc quad core cpu's are beyond 2x faster. also a modern i3 at 3ghz willl kill an 1.6 ghz 8 core jag
04dcarraher
So if ypu have an quad core cpu like an Athlon 2 x4 or better at or above 3 ghz you can match and surpass a 8 core jaguar cpu at 1.6 ghz.
Where is the custom 8 core Jaguar on that graph is a simple question..[QUOTE="silversix_"]Crytek and Nvidia are butthurt as **** lately wtf? I bet they're mad cuz their 4h long Crysis 3 didn't sell at all.jhonMalcovich
Lol. Why they are buthurt ? Is Sony, which is close to bankruptcy, threatening their businesses ? Nop. They just speak what they have in mind due to their experience and vision.
Microsoft aand Nintendo didn't use them either so why target Sony? Nvidia screwed Sony over last generation so if anything Sony should be criticizing them.
I see so your PC is under power vs the PS4 as well you are part of Steam stats were ever you voted or not..:lol:[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]
What I meant is I don´t care what other people have, I ony care about what I have. I am gaming right now on my trusty 4-year old PC, Quad Core 3ghz, 16GB RAM and ATI 5870 1GB, and will buy a next gen PC by the end of the year when ATI 8000 series is released
jhonMalcovich
Will it be when I will buy a new PC for 800$?:lol:
Who cares about specs ? What I want is to play games I already own. A big oops for cows.
PC PS4
backward compatiblity vs no backward compatiblity
steam sales vs no sales at all (no seconhand games either)
No but $800 is double what the PS4 would cost for just marginal better graphics,unless you want 7990,Titan or any sh** like that in which case it would be not an $800 PC. Who cares about specs.? But you are arguing on a topic about specs..:lol:[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]Lol. Almost all recent console title were shown off running on gaming PCs. For example, The Last of Us. It was shown off first on PC with really good graphics, and now when is exhibited on PS3 graphics suffered a big dive in quality. Recent PS4 killzone was rumored to have been shown off on a PC too.MBirdy88So much damage control..:lol: Killzone was running on non final devkits,but if you most know those are PC's with hardware emulators,the one on which Killzone ran wasn't even emulating the PS4 final specs..:lol: So much damage control :lol: that 4 more gb a ram will make up for the crappy APU :lol: Killzone, what a mediocre franchise, enjoy cowbot.
Killzone is a better franchise than Crysis...FACT.
So much damage control :lol: that 4 more gb a ram will make up for the crappy APU :lol: Killzone, what a mediocre franchise, enjoy cowbot.[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="tormentos"] So much damage control..:lol: Killzone was running on non final devkits,but if you most know those are PC's with hardware emulators,the one on which Killzone ran wasn't even emulating the PS4 final specs..:lol:StrongBlackVine
Killzone is a better franchise than Crysis...FACT.
Fact?A 7870 is $250 alone and serve you for nothing without a PC,want to beat the PS4 get a 7950 or better GPU and a good PC,i don't know maybe $800 total..[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]
Nop. It´s £300 plus £60 for Killzone and Infamous :lol:
Cows, prepare your t i ts
jhonMalcovich
800$ vs 500$, but I have Steam sales, PC exclusives coming next year such as Star Citizen, and BACKWARD COMPATIBILITY. No brainteaser for me, PC FTW
PS. By the end of the year, ATI 8000 series will be released that will overkill a 7000 series in performance.
Star Citizen, Starhawk, Guild Wars...perfect games for PC dorks.
[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]
[QUOTE="silversix_"]Crytek and Nvidia are butthurt as **** lately wtf? I bet they're mad cuz their 4h long Crysis 3 didn't sell at all.StrongBlackVine
Lol. Why they are buthurt ? Is Sony, which is close to bankruptcy, threatening their businesses ? Nop. They just speak what they have in mind due to their experience and vision.
Microsoft aand Nintendo didn't use them either so why target Sony? Nvidia screwed Sony over last generation so if anything Sony should be criticizing them.
Big time the Xenos was actually less expensive to MS even that it had way better tech than the RSX. BUt you are on the wrong topic this one is about Crytek.:lol: Cow Bot thinks that steam stats matter, when cowbot is talking to PC Enthusiasts. Silly little cowbotMBirdy88
PC gaming enthusiast = loser to me.
[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]
[QUOTE="tormentos"] A 7870 is $250 alone and serve you for nothing without a PC,want to beat the PS4 get a 7950 or better GPU and a good PC,i don't know maybe $800 total..StrongBlackVine
800$ vs 500$, but I have Steam sales, PC exclusives coming next year such as Star Citizen, and BACKWARD COMPATIBILITY. No brainteaser for me, PC FTW
PS. By the end of the year, ATI 8000 series will be released that will overkill a 7000 series in performance.
Star Citizen, Starhawk, Guild Wars...perfect games for PC dorks.
yeah..untill they get ported to the consoles :roll: ..then all of the sudden they're killer APP PC titles
[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"][QUOTE="tormentos"] I see so your PC is under power vs the PS4 as well you are part of Steam stats were ever you voted or not..:lol:tormentos
Will it be when I will buy a new PC for 800$?:lol:
Who cares about specs ? What I want is to play games I already own. A big oops for cows.
PC PS4
backward compatiblity vs no backward compatiblity
steam sales vs no sales at all (no seconhand games either)
No but $800 is double what the PS4 would cost for just marginal better graphics,unless you want 7990,Titan or any sh** like that in which case it would be not an $800 PC. Who cares about specs.? But you are arguing on a topic about specs..:lol:A small diference to pay to keep my 100-game Steam library.:lol:
Marginal better ? an ATI next gen 8000 series GPU will overkill 2-year old 7850.
Besides, I gonna spend less than an average cow in a long run due to Steam/Amazon/greenmangaming sales
[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]:lol: Cow Bot thinks that steam stats matter, when cowbot is talking to PC Enthusiasts. Silly little cowbotStrongBlackVine
PC gaming enthusiast = loser to me.
What a sad and pathetic creature you are then.You are an Idiot Steam stats owned all of you,but but Titans but but i7...:lol: The majority run 560TI and even worst 550 TI and Intel HD 3000...:lol: Most run dual core at 2.69ghz with 4GB of ram and 1 GB of Vram..:lol: And to think the 560Ti is 16 months old cost back then from $290 to $340 and 16 months latter you people have to trow out another $350 to beat the PS4 what a waste of money..:lol: Steam >>>>>>>>>>>>YOU... You people love to brag about specs you don't use..[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]That devkit hadn´t to emulate anything because PS4 is a dumbdown PC closed box :lol:.jhonMalcovich
Who cares. ME>>>>>>> ENTIRE WORLD>>>>>>>>YOU :lol:
Problem is, that's true of everyone. Your preferences pertain to your own decision, not everyone else's.[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"] So much damage control :lol: that 4 more gb a ram will make up for the crappy APU :lol: Killzone, what a mediocre franchise, enjoy cowbot.MonsieurX
Killzone is a better franchise than Crysis...FACT.
Fact?Comparision of the last two games make it a fact. Crysis is garbage....pretty garbage.
[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"]:lol: Cow Bot thinks that steam stats matter, when cowbot is talking to PC Enthusiasts. Silly little cowbotMBirdy88
PC gaming enthusiast = loser to me.
What a sad and pathetic creature you are then.Nah my hobbies are just cooler than yours.
Fact?[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]
Killzone is a better franchise than Crysis...FACT.
StrongBlackVine
Comparision of the last two games make it a fact. Crysis is garbage....pretty garbage.
Why compare only the last two games? :|You talked about the franchise,compare all the games then
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