Are Naughty Dog overrated?

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Poll: Are Naughty Dog overrated? (78 votes)

Yes 47%
Possibly not (possibly) 50%

My friends, having recently finished Last Of Us and played some of Uncharted 3 I find my self highly perturbed. While these are undoubtedly decent titles I'm finding myself somewhat left cold as to what everyone was raving about. These titles have 95+ metacritc scores. But I'm not actually seeing anything new or extraordinary. Alot of it is pretty safe, cliche stuff I have seen a million times before over the decades.

My friends, I want to hear your excellent and highly respected opinions. Compared to someone like Valve, who has a highly diverse catalog, revolution digital distribution argubly saved pc gaming, modding and independent gaming, what has Naughty Dog done? It seems like alot of hot air for the most part.

#1 Posted by rjdofu (9170 posts) -

Absolutely not (absolutely)

#2 Posted by GTSaiyanjin2 (6012 posts) -

They only made some of the best games of last gen... Quality wise only Nintendo and R* put out as much good games on consoles as them.

#3 Posted by Mr-Kutaragi (1967 posts) -

Seem you are bitter that PC does not have blockbuster exclusive of this calibre with movie quality production value and writing. Please do not cry, still have LoL, LOL!.

#4 Posted by charizard1605 (58185 posts) -

Nope. They're among the GOAT developers

#5 Edited by uninspiredcup (8948 posts) -

@Mr-Kutaragi said:

Seem you are bitter that PC does not have blockbuster exclusive of this calibre with movie quality production value and writing. Please do not cry, still have LoL, LOL!.

From my point of view the Jedi are evil.

#6 Posted by cainetao11 (17716 posts) -

If they were heralded for their MP, I would say yes. I enjoyed TLOU MP a bit, but SP, cinematic, story type games seems to be their forte.

#7 Edited by Lulu_Lulu (13654 posts) -

Forget about seeing something new and Innovative, They couldn't even nail the conventional stuff in the Uncharted games. Although I find nothing special about TLOU's story, its the first time I've seen Naughty Dog get the gameplay right,

#8 Edited by Couth_ (10166 posts) -

Valve doesn't even make games, they remake community mods smh

#9 Posted by TheTruthIsREAL (761 posts) -

Didn't vote because No is not an answer to you. Stop making polls.

#10 Edited by uninspiredcup (8948 posts) -

@Couth_ said:

Valve doesn't even make games, they remake community mods smh

And Naughty Dog rips off movies and actors without giving credit or royalties.

#11 Posted by mems_1224 (47259 posts) -

Yes, they are insanely overrated. That said, The Last of Us is probably one of the top 10 games last gen and UC2 and probably top 20. Their other games are mediocre most of the time. They're great devs they're just not very consistent.

#12 Posted by Malta_1980 (11399 posts) -

I love Valve games but stating their games are highly diverse is quite a stretch...

They created one amazing series Half-Life with a great plot, an amazing mp only shooter TF2 & another great one Counter Strike..

As for the rest they created decent titles such as L4D & Portal...

Keep in mind with the exception of Half-life none of the others contain intriguing stories just mp competitive/coop only...

Also I don't see diversity considering all the above are 1st person shooters !!

#13 Posted by uninspiredcup (8948 posts) -

@Malta_1980 said:

I love Valve games but stating their games are highly diverse is quite a stretch...


Dota 2 = strategy/rpg (90 metacritic)

Portal 1/2 = Puzzle/adventure (95+ Metacritic)

Halflife series = Revolutionary first person shooter (99 metacritic)

Team Fortress 2 = Highest rated free2play game of all time (92 metacritic)

Alien Swarm = Isometric COOP (90 metacritic)

Richochet = Tennis (90 metacritic)

Orange Box = 96 metacritic

Seems like you are wrong and Valve are a highly diverse developer with the highest rated and best storytelling around.

#14 Posted by Couth_ (10166 posts) -

@uninspiredcup: counter strike -half life mod

Team fortress -quake mod

Dota - Warcraft mod

All community mods...l4d and portal are nothing more than glorified mods as well

#15 Edited by Krelian-co (11181 posts) -

@rjdofu said:

Absolutely not (absolutely)

gotta loved dumb biased polls where they "forget" to add the winning option.

#16 Posted by uninspiredcup (8948 posts) -

@Couth_ said:

@uninspiredcup: counter strike -half life mod

Team fortress -quake mod

Dota - Warcraft mod

All community mods...l4d and portal are nothing more than glorified mods as well

Completely irrelevant. They are or did become Valve staff. Become a talent spotter simply proves how great they are.

Scrapping the bottom of the barrel sonny.

#17 Edited by Pikminmaniac (9053 posts) -

In my eyes, they are as overrated as they can get. Essentially dueto their downfall on PS3. They were a lot better before.

#18 Posted by Renegade_Fury (17217 posts) -

Extremely overrated

#19 Edited by Krelian-co (11181 posts) -

@uninspiredcup said:

@Malta_1980 said:

I love Valve games but stating their games are highly diverse is quite a stretch...

Dota 2 = strategy/rpg (90 metacritic)

Portal 1/2 = Puzzle/adventure (95+ Metacritic) Portal 1 got 90, and 2 got 95 but nice try

Halflife series = Revolutionary first person shooter (99 metacritic) weird, no game has 99 on metacritic, oh wait, its because your 99 is bs. 1 and 2 got 96 and 2 episode 1 87 and episode 2 90

Team Fortress 2 = Highest rated free2play game of all time (92 metacritic)

Alien Swarm = Isometric COOP (90 metacritic) dont even know what this is

Richochet = Tennis (90 metacritic) lol

Orange Box = 96 metacritic reusing games? orange box is half life and portal.

Seems like you are wrong and Valve are a highly diverse developer with the highest rated and best storytelling around.

The Last of Us - 95

Uncharted 2 - 96

Uncharted 3 - 93

Crash bandicoot 91

Jak and Dexter 90

They are pretty even once someone "fix" your scores

#20 Posted by uninspiredcup (8948 posts) -

@Krelian-co said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@Malta_1980 said:

I love Valve games but stating their games are highly diverse is quite a stretch...

Dota 2 = strategy/rpg (90 metacritic)

Portal 1/2 = Puzzle/adventure (95+ Metacritic) Portal 1 got 90, and 2 got 95 but nice try

Halflife series = Revolutionary first person shooter (99 metacritic) weird, no game has 99 on metacritic, oh wait, its because your 99 is bs. 1 and 2 got 96 and 2 episode 1 87 and episode 2 90

Team Fortress 2 = Highest rated free2play game of all time (92 metacritic)

Alien Swarm = Isometric COOP (90 metacritic) dont even know what this is

Richochet = Tennis (90 metacritic) lol

Orange Box = 96 metacritic reusing games? orange box is half life and portal.

Seems like you are wrong and Valve are a highly diverse developer with the highest rated and best storytelling around.

The Last of Us - 95

Uncharted 2 - 96

Uncharted 3 - 93

Crash bandicoot 91

Jak and Dexter 90

They are pretty even once someone "fix" your scores

You don't seem to understand the topic my friend. Perhaps using this, google and then coming back will help.

#21 Edited by uninspiredcup (8948 posts) -

@Krelian-co said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@Malta_1980 said:

I love Valve games but stating their games are highly diverse is quite a stretch...

Dota 2 = strategy/rpg (90 metacritic)

Portal 1/2 = Puzzle/adventure (95+ Metacritic) Portal 1 got 90, and 2 got 95 but nice try

Halflife series = Revolutionary first person shooter (99 metacritic) weird, no game has 99 on metacritic, oh wait, its because your 99 is bs. 1 and 2 got 96 and 2 episode 1 87 and episode 2 90

Team Fortress 2 = Highest rated free2play game of all time (92 metacritic)

Alien Swarm = Isometric COOP (90 metacritic) dont even know what this is

Richochet = Tennis (90 metacritic) lol

Orange Box = 96 metacritic reusing games? orange box is half life and portal.

Seems like you are wrong and Valve are a highly diverse developer with the highest rated and best storytelling around.

The Last of Us - 95

Uncharted 2 - 96

Uncharted 3 - 93

Crash bandicoot 91

Jak and Dexter 90

They are pretty even once someone "fix" your scores

You don't seem to understand the topic my friend. Perhaps using this, google and then coming back will help.

Splitting a single series up while i just grouped them, now thats really scrapping the bottom of the barrel. Such desperation.

#22 Posted by Krelian-co (11181 posts) -

@uninspiredcup said:

@Krelian-co said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@Malta_1980 said:

I love Valve games but stating their games are highly diverse is quite a stretch...

Dota 2 = strategy/rpg (90 metacritic)

Portal 1/2 = Puzzle/adventure (95+ Metacritic) Portal 1 got 90, and 2 got 95 but nice try

Halflife series = Revolutionary first person shooter (99 metacritic) weird, no game has 99 on metacritic, oh wait, its because your 99 is bs. 1 and 2 got 96 and 2 episode 1 87 and episode 2 90

Team Fortress 2 = Highest rated free2play game of all time (92 metacritic)

Alien Swarm = Isometric COOP (90 metacritic) dont even know what this is

Richochet = Tennis (90 metacritic) lol

Orange Box = 96 metacritic reusing games? orange box is half life and portal.

Seems like you are wrong and Valve are a highly diverse developer with the highest rated and best storytelling around.

The Last of Us - 95

Uncharted 2 - 96

Uncharted 3 - 93

Crash bandicoot 91

Jak and Dexter 90

They are pretty even once someone "fix" your scores

You don't seem to understand the topic my friend. Perhaps using this, google and then coming back will help.

perhaps replying with some dumb bs will make it go away.

#23 Posted by edidili (3449 posts) -

They make those kind of games where you play it once and forget about. Not a fan of movie games. Once you went through the story once there's no point repeating it.

Since you brought up Valve, Valve games are the opposite. Little to no story at all but huge replayability.

#24 Posted by Malta_1980 (11399 posts) -

@uninspiredcup said:

@Malta_1980 said:

I love Valve games but stating their games are highly diverse is quite a stretch...

Dota 2 = strategy/rpg (90 metacritic)

Portal 1/2 = Puzzle/adventure (95+ Metacritic)

Halflife series = Revolutionary first person shooter (99 metacritic)

Team Fortress 2 = Highest rated free2play game of all time (92 metacritic)

Alien Swarm = Isometric COOP (90 metacritic)

Richochet = Tennis (90 metacritic)

Orange Box = 96 metacritic

Seems like you are wrong and Valve are a highly diverse developer with the highest rated and best storytelling around.

Diverse cause you listed Alien Swarm & Richochet??? come on get real !! Valve are famous for their first person shooters mainly HF series, TF & CS !! thats not diverse..

Also as much as I love Dota2, its a sequel to a freakin mod which many had already been playing.. Surely DOTA2 looks better and vastly improved but don't give credit to Valve for something they didn't create :)

#25 Edited by uninspiredcup (8948 posts) -

@Krelian-co said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@Krelian-co said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@Malta_1980 said:

I love Valve games but stating their games are highly diverse is quite a stretch...

Dota 2 = strategy/rpg (90 metacritic)

Portal 1/2 = Puzzle/adventure (95+ Metacritic) Portal 1 got 90, and 2 got 95 but nice try

Halflife series = Revolutionary first person shooter (99 metacritic) weird, no game has 99 on metacritic, oh wait, its because your 99 is bs. 1 and 2 got 96 and 2 episode 1 87 and episode 2 90

Team Fortress 2 = Highest rated free2play game of all time (92 metacritic)

Alien Swarm = Isometric COOP (90 metacritic) dont even know what this is

Richochet = Tennis (90 metacritic) lol

Orange Box = 96 metacritic reusing games? orange box is half life and portal.

Seems like you are wrong and Valve are a highly diverse developer with the highest rated and best storytelling around.

The Last of Us - 95

Uncharted 2 - 96

Uncharted 3 - 93

Crash bandicoot 91

Jak and Dexter 90

They are pretty even once someone "fix" your scores

You don't seem to understand the topic my friend. Perhaps using this, google and then coming back will help.

perhaps replying with some dumb bs will make it go away.

Make what go away? You attempted to cheat. If I split up my scores Valve crushes them.

#26 Posted by gargungulunk (149 posts) -

I have yet to finish a Naughty Dog title. ...I will still finish TLoU, though.

I'd rather play Tomb Raider again it seems.

#27 Edited by uninspiredcup (8948 posts) -

@gargungulunk said:

I have yet to finish a Naughty Dog title. ...I will still finish TLoU, though.

I'd rather play Tomb Raider again it seems.

Tomb Raider was a ground breaking series.

#28 Posted by mems_1224 (47259 posts) -

Valve is way more overrated than ND. Halflife is meh. The Portal games are funny but the actual gameplay is boring. Dota 2 is alright. Team Fortress is meh. Left 4 Dead is easily their best franchise and desperately needs a next gen sequel.

#29 Edited by Sweenix (5399 posts) -

Naughty dog > Valve / Rockstar Games

#30 Posted by Malta_1980 (11399 posts) -

the problem is you used games such as DOTA2, Alien Swarm which are not even made by valve just published by them... LOL you went on to comapare a Dev/publisher against a Dev team..

Also Richochet, seriously you're using a mod ???

At least all the titles by ND were their original creations... Imo both Valve & ND are amazing since they created some of the best games I've played and still play...

#31 Posted by Gue1 (10198 posts) -

#32 Posted by AppleFan1991 (3074 posts) -

Fail poll is fail

#33 Posted by Netret0120 (2200 posts) -

Lol is this a joke thread?

TLOU is easily one of the best ganes made, period.

Uncharted series is one of the best of last gen.

They made Crash Bandicoot, Jak&Daxter too.

R* is the only other company i would say that makes games as good as them

#34 Edited by uninspiredcup (8948 posts) -

@Malta_1980 said:

the problem is you used games such as DOTA2, Alien Swarm which are not even made by valve just published by them... LOL you went on to comapare a Dev/publisher against a Dev team..


But they are made by Valve. Only person to make up poop from what I can see is someone disgruntled at admitting they are the best, in the world.

#35 Edited by ZombieKiller7 (6255 posts) -

Naughty Dog games are ok but nothing to write home about.

They're venerated for making extremely good use of shit hardware (PS3)

If Uncharted and TLOU was on PC, it wouldn't be worth playing, because there's better games to spend time on.

Actually none of the console exclusives are really worth anything.

MGS4 is trash.

Halo sucks.

Gears is mediocre.

Forza is garbage.

Uncharted is Dude Raider

Mario is Mario

If you gave me these games for free in my Steam library, they're not worth an install.

The best games that I've found were third-party AAA games like RDR, GTA IV, Far Cry 3, Fallout 3, Ass Creed, Mass Effect and so forth.

I almost feel bad for console companies, they pay millions to fund shit libraries, their adolescent fans play those trash games and think they're good.

And no I don't think the PC is very far ahead.

Because as I said, the best games are alot of third-party AAA's that sometimes don't come to PC like GTA V and RDR.

Those are the games that are actually good and worth buying a system for.

Pretty much the best "must-play" games of the last, say, 10 years, have all been available (but not exclusive to) the Xbox360.

#36 Edited by Malta_1980 (11399 posts) -

@uninspiredcup said:

@Malta_1980 said:

the problem is you used games such as DOTA2, Alien Swarm which are not even made by valve just published by them... LOL you went on to comapare a Dev/publisher against a Dev team..


But they are made by Valve. Only person to make up poop from what I can see is someone disgruntled at admitting they are the best, in the world.

well developing a game and publishing a game are different.. By your reasoning then why not compare Valve & Sony..

Sony made Uncharted / TLOU cause they own ND.. In that case lets compare the games by Valve with the games created/published by Sony and we can decide which has the best library in terms on quantity, diversity & quality !!!

#37 Edited by senses_fail_06 (6736 posts) -

Underrated. They are responsible for some of the best games of all times for the past 3 generations and whatever they touch turns to gold.

#38 Posted by TheGuardian03 (21781 posts) -

Naughty Dog are my favourite devs, they're the reason i buy sony consles. praise well deserved.

#39 Edited by treedoor (7648 posts) -

They're overrated. Not so much due to the quality of their games (granted I don't really care about them), but because people put them on a pedestal above devs that have far greater pedigrees, and devs that have been grossly more innovative, and influential

#40 Posted by handssss (1837 posts) -

No and you need to look beyond Last of Us and Uncharted. Look at their whole history. Not only do they make good games, they make many different kinds of good games. Not one trick ponies.

#41 Edited by kingoflife9 (1987 posts) -

their gameplay is mediocre, their storytelling is above average.

#42 Posted by Snugenz (11892 posts) -

UC2 and TLOU are great games, UC and UC3 not so much. They're great devs but they are overrated by the fanboys.

#43 Posted by Bigboi500 (30009 posts) -

Very much so. Cows pretend their games are the pinnacle of gaming, when actually they're middle-of-the-road mediocrity at best.

#44 Edited by GreySeal9 (24447 posts) -

@ZombieKiller7 said:

Naughty Dog games are ok but nothing to write home about.

They're venerated for making extremely good use of shit hardware (PS3)

If Uncharted and TLOU was on PC, it wouldn't be worth playing, because there's better games to spend time on.

Actually none of the console exclusives are really worth anything.

MGS4 is trash.

Halo sucks.

Gears is mediocre.

Forza is garbage.

Uncharted is Dude Raider

Mario is Mario

If you gave me these games for free in my Steam library, they're not worth an install.

The best games that I've found were third-party AAA games like RDR, GTA IV, Far Cry 3, Fallout 3, Ass Creed, Mass Effect and so forth.

I almost feel bad for console companies, they pay millions to fund shit libraries, their adolescent fans play those trash games and think they're good.

And no I don't think the PC is very far ahead.

Because as I said, the best games are alot of third-party AAA's that sometimes don't come to PC like GTA V and RDR.

Those are the games that are actually good and worth buying a system for.

Pretty much the best "must-play" games of the last, say, 10 years, have all been available (but not exclusive to) the Xbox360.

It's like you're trying your hardest to imitate the douchiest hermit possible.

#45 Edited by withe1982 (450 posts) -

Great biased post there TC.

I think the best compliment you can pay Naughty Dog, as developers, is the amount of attention their games get from Lems and Hermits. Thread after thread of pure hatred aimed at Uncharted and TLOU. Shows the levels of jealousy they reach with the competition. Just take a moment to count the Lems and Hermits on this thread.

It's like when Sony fanboys start threads just to slag off Forza. They do it because they know it's the best on the market so aim their pot shots at it.

I for one rate ND above R* as developers. Never been disappointed in a game they have made and even their worst title (U3) is still great fun to play (and a 92 on metacritic). I'm currently playing through TLOU for the 7th time and I still get those WOW moments. Pure class.

#46 Edited by Gue1 (10198 posts) -

@Snugenz said:

UC2 and TLOU are great games, UC and UC3 not so much. They're great devs but they are overrated by the fanboys.

if they are only overrated by the fanboys then why do they have some of the highest scoring games of the generation and racked up so many awards? Maybe is just you and your bias underestimating them... Some people are just like that, they love to hate what is popular because elitism, maybe you're one those?

#47 Posted by Snugenz (11892 posts) -

@Gue1 said:

@Snugenz said:

UC2 and TLOU are great games, UC and UC3 not so much. They're great devs but they are overrated by the fanboys.

if they are only overrated by the fanboys then why do they have some of the highest scoring games of the generation and racked up so many awards? Maybe is just you and your bias underestimating them... Some people are just like that, they love to hate what is popular because elitism, maybe you're one those?

They deserve the awards, but fanboys like you hype them up to be "teh bestest ever!!!" which they aren't.

#48 Posted by lamprey263 (24169 posts) -

they do good with the high production value and story side of gaming, but they're rather lacking on the gameplay side of things

#49 Posted by Bigboi500 (30009 posts) -

@Gue1 said:

@Snugenz said:

UC2 and TLOU are great games, UC and UC3 not so much. They're great devs but they are overrated by the fanboys.

if they are only overrated by the fanboys then why do they have some of the highest scoring games of the generation and racked up so many awards? Maybe is just you and your bias the ones underestimating them... Some people are just like that, they love to hate what is popular because of the elitism, maybe you are one those?

You sound exactly like a sheep that says the exact same thing when cows attack Nintendo and their games.

#50 Edited by locopatho (20375 posts) -

Yes they are overrated. Their best games are AMAZING (Jak 3, Uncharted 2, Last Of Us). But they have made plenty of "just good" games like the other Jak and Uncharted titles. I don't like when folks pretend they make consistently amazing games like Rockstar or Bioware. (Yes we are ignoring GTAIV and Dragon Age II in this example :P)