Activision removes PS3 from COD: Black OPS ads.

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#201 delta3074
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some grass doesn't make the experience of playing a game any better. _Cadbury_
depends what kind of grass you are talking about,lol
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#202 nintendoboy16
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Oh look, it's the oh so annoying advertisements of advertising non-exclusive games like they are exclusive. MS has did it so many times this gen with these games as examples: Final Fantasy XIII Call of Duty 4 and Modern Warfare 2 Splinter Cell: Double Agent And don't get me wrong, Sony and Nintendo are guilty of doing the same thing. I hate it when they advertise it like that. Main reason is that no one will know if it's on other platforms unless they go on gaming sites.
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#203 Twin-Blade
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While Sony spends money on acquiring more first party support for more exclusive games, Microsoft spends cash on exclusive advertising & early DLC to try & capitalize on multiplats. In an age where it's as simple as a few mouse clicks to find out everything about a game, including what platforms it will be available on, Microsoft buys exclusive advertising in a few select gaming magazines.

Now that Halo has ended, if a new big IP or a change in priorities doesn't occur, I'll switch from Microsoft next gen. With the focus on Kinect, things are looking grim, but I won't give up hope yet.

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#204 emperorzhang66
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Em, is this really much different from the ps3 getting a remake of the best ww2 shooter with MOH? and not the 360?
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#205 max-Emadness
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does it really matter

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#206 gamebreakerz__
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This further proves the casualization of the 360. MS targeting sales before good games.
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#207 delta3074
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This further proves the casualization of the 360. MS targeting sales before good games.gamebreakerz__
that's the whole point of being a business,you think SONY does it for giggles, and no offence but it really erks me that Ps3 fanboys think move=hardcore, kinect=casual, it doesn't work that way, both SONY and MS are targetting the casual market.
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#208 gamebreakerz__
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[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"]This further proves the casualization of the 360. MS targeting sales before good games.delta3074
that's the whole point of being a business,you think SONY does it for giggles, and no offence but it really erks me that Ps3 fanboys think move=hardcore, kinect=casual, it doesn't work that way, both SONY and MS are targetting the casual market.

Fact of the matter is that Sony are gaining more devs while MS are losing them and investing huge amounts of money in casual crap which is what COD has become.
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#209 racing1750
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Good business decision imo.
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#210 Ninja-Hippo
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I don't think this is news to be honest. This happens all the time with new games; companies sponsor each others ads in exchange for stuff like this.
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#211 Javy03
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I am not sure how sound a business move this is. This isn't gonna convince somebody to buy a 360 for this game and I am pretty sure the moment somebody walks into ANY gamestop that initial wall behind the cash register will be full of 360 and PS3 copies of the game. I don't think this will fool anybody, especially if this is targeting the same fanbase as COD MW2. This game will sell better on the 360 like it always does, not because of these lame advertisement techniques but because the 360 has a larger piece of NA as their fanbase which love shooters, especially COD.
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#212 Camden11
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"that article fails because it said the game comes out in september"

Wow....... For British eyes only I guess

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#213 Kleeyook
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Then it'll be: Activision + Ubisoft + MS vs EA + SONY Considering that both Activision and Ubisoft are French while EA is USA it's likely French prefer MS over SONY.
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#214 Eltormo
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That's actually really good business by Microsoft.Chrome-

No is not since every ones knows this game is coming to PS3,is a loss cause for MS since activition would not make the game exclusive to them,because on PS3 it also sold well to well for the game to be turn into an exclusive.

Ms should take that money and invest it in eclsuive games that will remain on the 360 period,with the ammount of money they have trow away paying developer left and right,they would probably have by now like 10 new IP or more.

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#215 delta3074
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[QUOTE="Chrome-"]That's actually really good business by Microsoft.Eltormo

No is not since every ones knows this game is coming to PS3,is a loss cause for MS since activition would not make the game exclusive to them,because on PS3 it also sold well to well for the game to be turn into an exclusive.

Ms should take that money and invest it in eclsuive games that will remain on the 360 period,with the ammount of money they have trow away paying developer left and right,they would probably have by now like 10 new IP or more.

not in the UK it isn't, like i said, the 360 is killing the Ps3 in sales here in blighty, holiday 2009, even with the slim Ps3 and the price drop the 360 still outsold it roughly 3-1 http://www.mcvuk.com/news/36642/Xbox-360-outselling-PS3-3-to-1 and sales of the xbox 360 shot up 1000% when the slim was released http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/uk-360-sales-up-1000-percent it's not suprising, the cheapest Ps3 SKU is still 50 quid more expensive than the most expensive 360 SKU, and here in blighty we think with our wallets, basically MS have the UK on lockdown, they are already bombarding us with Reach adverts. they are consolidating there position here, which is always a good business move, guess which console brits will mainly be buying next gen,lol
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#216 navigata
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Smart move by them. You're telling me that if you had an opportunity to capitalize off of something like that, you wouldn't? Quite possibly one of the biggest shooters of the year, on YOUR console. I don't get why nobody ever mentions the Sony/EA partnership.. hm.

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#217 mystervj
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[QUOTE="Eltormo"]

[QUOTE="Chrome-"]That's actually really good business by Microsoft.delta3074

No is not since every ones knows this game is coming to PS3,is a loss cause for MS since activition would not make the game exclusive to them,because on PS3 it also sold well to well for the game to be turn into an exclusive.

Ms should take that money and invest it in eclsuive games that will remain on the 360 period,with the ammount of money they have trow away paying developer left and right,they would probably have by now like 10 new IP or more.

not in the UK it isn't, like i said, the 360 is killing the Ps3 in sales here in blighty, holiday 2009, even with the slim Ps3 and the price drop the 360 still outsold it roughly 3-1 http://www.mcvuk.com/news/36642/Xbox-360-outselling-PS3-3-to-1 and sales of the xbox 360 shot up 1000% when the slim was released http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/uk-360-sales-up-1000-percent it's not suprising, the cheapest Ps3 SKU is still 50 quid more expensive than the most expensive 360 SKU, and here in blighty we think with our wallets, basically MS have the UK on lockdown, they are already bombarding us with Reach adverts. they are consolidating there position here, which is always a good business move, guess which console brits will mainly be buying next gen,lol

Just off topic really, I suddenly started reading your post with a British accent, lol it's kind of funny :) Anyways, it's just for one store, total is probably not that different.
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#218 delta3074
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[QUOTE="mystervj"] Just off topic really, I suddenly started reading your post with a British accent, lol it's kind of funny :) Anyways, it's just for one store, total is probably not that different.

the word 'blighty' does tend to invoke a stiff upper lip accent,did you sound like micheal caine or jude law? any way, it may only be one store, but it's an indication that even with the price drop and the slim, the Ps3 still failed to outsell the 360 here, holiday 2008 was no different, with the 360 outselling the Ps3 2-1,like it or lump it, the 360 outsells the Ps3 buy quite a margin here in the UK, it didn't help that for the first year PS3 games where actually 10 quid more than 360 games, add to the fact that even now the Ps3 is only 30 quid cheaper than the 360's premiums initial release price, SONY really screwed the pooch in the UK, they lost a hell of a lot of loyal fans add to the fact that we are very americanised here and you get the picture, my mate who works at gamestation tried to sell me his Ps3 so he could get a 360 s, if i had the money i would have bought it, it was an old 60gig.
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#219 Renzokucant
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[QUOTE="Zune_HD"]Great use of money MS. :roll:Anjunaddict

Oh god, here we go again with the extremely smart system warriors who know much much more than Microsoft do

does* :)
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#220 Overlord93
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Its a multiplat, microsoft I think knows its exclusives are struggling so is moving its focuss towards 'getting close to' multiplat developers etc.

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#221 Anjunaddict
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[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]

[QUOTE="Zune_HD"]Great use of money MS. :roll:Renzokucant

Oh god, here we go again with the extremely smart system warriors who know much much more than Microsoft do

does* :)

yay the grammar police.

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#222 Heil68
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Well I'm getting it for PS3, I will show M$!!!
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#223 Overlord93
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[QUOTE="Renzokucant"][QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]Oh god, here we go again with the extremely smart system warriors who know much much more than Microsoft do

Anjunaddict

does* :)

yay the grammar police.

you dun goofed
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#224 clone01
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[QUOTE="Chrome-"]That's actually really good business by Microsoft.Eltormo

No is not since every ones knows this game is coming to PS3,is a loss cause for MS since activition would not make the game exclusive to them,because on PS3 it also sold well to well for the game to be turn into an exclusive.

Ms should take that money and invest it in eclsuive games that will remain on the 360 period,with the ammount of money they have trow away paying developer left and right,they would probably have by now like 10 new IP or more.

are you a business analyst? MS, and Sony, and Nintendo are in this industry to make money. new IPs are tremendously expensive to develop.
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#225 Javy03
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are you a business analyst? MS, and Sony, and Nintendo are in this industry to make money. new IPs are tremendously expensive to develop.clone01
Kinda of harsh. I think as the target audience of these advertisements we are allowed to comment on it's effectiveness without any issues. I agree new IPs are expensive but that doesn't make his point of investing in advertising this as an exclusive being a stupid move, wrong. COD is probably one of the most popular games this gen and has already had what, 4 or 5 sequals in this gen. alone. I don't believe they are gonna convince anyone this game is only on the 360. I don't believe this will spike their software sales anymore or sell more 360s. Taking that money and investing it in one of their 1st party studios or using it to aquire an upstarting small indie software team to make exclusives is a much sounder investment.
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#226 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

More reasons why most multiplats on PS3 sell less...

1Stark1

.........sometimes. Mostly in the case of shooters, for most other genres, PS3

Seeing how there are more shooters than other genres...

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#227 Overlord93
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[QUOTE="1Stark1"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

More reasons why most multiplats on PS3 sell less...

mitu123

.........sometimes. Mostly in the case of shooters, for most other genres, PS3

Seeing how there are more shooters than other genres...

you mean they still make games which arn't shooters? [spoiler] :P [/spoiler]
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#228 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

is this move even legal to begin with?

is ms that desparate? i guess not, if they were doing good this move wouldnt even cross their minds.

CuteCakes



Cows conveniently forgetting the recent Assassin's Creed II PS3-only advertising http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhK47AA7LKc

And it still sold more on the Xbox 360. LOL.

FF13.

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#229 mariokart64fan
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it still has wii logos?

if so , guess what this probably means a cancelati on of some sort

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#230 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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They couldnt have spent their money better? TintedEyes
This was a wise business move. I would be shocked if someone said otherwise. :?
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#231 mystervj
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[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

is this move even legal to begin with?

is ms that desparate? i guess not, if they were doing good this move wouldnt even cross their minds.

CuteCakes



Cows conveniently forgetting the recent Assassin's Creed II PS3-only advertising http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhK47AA7LKc

And it still sold more on the Xbox 360. LOL.

Where did you get the number that the game sold more on 360? Are you making this up?

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#232 Raiden004
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evil M$ at it again. M$ and its evil tactics is wats ruining the video game market J-WOW
:lol: funny bro!

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#233 KarateeeChop
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[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

[QUOTE="_Cadbury_"]
As much as fanboys seem to like to think, some grass doesn't make the experience of playing a game any better. When was the last time a ps3 multiplat scored lower than the 360 version? Not to mention there are times when the ps3 gets the better version e.g dragon age. And unfortunately, God of War 3, Heavy Rain,Modnation racers, Yakuza 3, MLB 10,MAG, 3D Dot Game Heroes, Gran Turismo 5, and LBP 2 trump the 360s line up this year. But yeah, play that multiplat card seeing as the 360 can't stand up on exclusives ;)

_Cadbury_

sorry to break it to you, but multiplats are games too. it's your loss that you only play exclusives.

speaking of games, the 360 has more than 70 AA+ games than the ps3 on gamerankings.

that's gotta hurt.


Dude, im not saying multiplats don't count. I'm saying they are near identical on both systems. So while we both play those multiplats, I also playhigh quality exclusives, while most of the 360 exclusives are from 2007 and back. what must hurt is being deprivedof goodexclusives for a long time. But hey, at least you can watch the black ops ads now and pretendits exclusive.

1. stop lying. multiplats are not mostly identicle on both consoles. the vast majority are noticeably better on the 360.http://misterslimm.wordpress.com/360-vs-ps3/xbox-360-vs-ps3-head-to-head-face-off-results/

2. why would you enjoy a game more for being exclusive? real gamers enjoy multiplats just as much as exclusives.

3. the 360 has more than 70 AA+ games than the ps3 on gamerankings. it completely destroys the ps3's library.

sorry, just the truth.

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#234 lamprey263
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multiplatform publishers do this all the time, there's already been multiplatform ads followed by "available on PS3, now only $299" or the Xbox 360 logo
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#235 sonny2dap
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well it aired and no ps3 but a nice hint to pre-order (on 360 of course). lol
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#236 deleterguy
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Seems everybody forgot about the sony/EA partnership like with MOH or AC 2: Brotherhood exclusive demo.(no it's not a true beta)
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#237 True_Chaos_UK
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Seems everybody forgot about the sony/EA partnership like with MOH or AC 2: Brotherhood exclusive demo.(no it's not a true beta)deleterguy

This Sony seems to be getting loads for content and exclusives more than anything Activision could give MS, shame really wish both consoles got the same content at the same time. As MS gets early CoD dlc, EA is giving special editions of games, early beta's Sony must of thrown a fair bit of cash at them and its paying off.

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#238 _Cadbury_
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[QUOTE="_Cadbury_"]

[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

sorry to break it to you, but multiplats are games too. it's your loss that you only play exclusives.

speaking of games, the 360 has more than 70 AA+ games than the ps3 on gamerankings.

that's gotta hurt.

KarateeeChop


Dude, im not saying multiplats don't count. I'm saying they are near identical on both systems. So while we both play those multiplats, I also playhigh quality exclusives, while most of the 360 exclusives are from 2007 and back. what must hurt is being deprivedof goodexclusives for a long time. But hey, at least you can watch the black ops ads now and pretendits exclusive.

1. stop lying. multiplats are not mostly identicle on both consoles. the vast majority are noticeably better on the 360.http://misterslimm.wordpress.com/360-vs-ps3/xbox-360-vs-ps3-head-to-head-face-off-results/

2. why would you enjoy a game more for being exclusive? real gamers enjoy multiplats just as much as exclusives.

3. the 360 has more than 70 AA+ games than the ps3 on gamerankings. it completely destroys the ps3's library.

sorry, just the truth.


1-Ever wonder why PS3 owners have never collectively gotten together to complain about inferior multiplats?because theyre really not inferior. Like I said, this argument is just a sad last minute resort used by 360 fanboys with no real exclusives to boast about. 2-I never said I enjoy a game more if it's exclusive. The only games I've bought this year so far have been multiplats (which by the way,scored exactly the same as the 360 version and could not be distinguishable unless put side by side on screens and over analysed). But more exclusives means more games to choose from, and they also tend to be high quality. 3- You aren't listening. We know the 360 has a lot of games...from 2007 back. They have been falling behind in the past couple of years, and going into next year so far aswell.

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#239 NanoMan88
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Its funny how COD was born on the PC and it was responsible for its sucess and now they dont even bother to mention that its on PC, thats sort of sad and shows this is not the same COD everybody grew to love.

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#240 roflumadkid
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[QUOTE="Zune_HD"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Don't worry, we'll be able to spend £20 on a map before anyone else :P

Megaman5364

And since Treyarch shot down Zombies at launch they'll be later released as DLC for $15 (or whatever your currency is)

Even though they probably will have already programmed them on the disc :P

It should be bannable to type sensationalist type things.
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#241 SolidTy
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Who wouldn't turn down this money?

Activision must have laughed all the way to the bank. :lol:

It wouldn't be so bad if we got a great amount of new retail 1st Party IP's/ retail games, but we've seen a trend this generation. Close down, sell off, or downsize all the Xbox 1st party in lieu of 3rd Party deals like this. That's why there is flak from some gamers, because gamers are starting to notice this old, old trend we've been seeing for a few years now. We know they made $1.2 billion in just Xbox LIVE last year, and we see thing deals like this, Unneeded greedy XBL price hikes, a diminishing first party strength, and the end result is overall less retail games for gamers. :(

It's up to gamers though, to speak up, and stop spending if we want results. :P

On the flip side, ACTIVISION's annual Call of Duty game and TREYARCH, will sell more copies on the 360, I'm sure, and Xbox Live will benefit as it's a MP heavy franchise. Activision is happy and are the real winners in a deal like this.

Good thing I've been boycotting Activision for since 2008 though, and besides, Treyarch is a A-AA metascoring developer, and I myself am not a COD Treyarch fan (I own all their games, including their COD games COD 3 and COD : W@W ), so I don't care too much as it is.

Good luck TREYARCH, getting those critics and fans won over the way Infinity Ward (AAA COD dev, and creator of COD) got it done in the past. ACTIVISION NEEDS Treyarch now more than ever, since IW got destroyed by Activision's poor management.