360 Sells 1.25mil in Nov nearly 2x all other consoles and >Wiiu+Wii combined

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Remember guys, the 360 had an extra year. The sales of PS3 and 360 is basically tied. By using the logic behind the 360's extra year, the PS3 won.

So, it's Wii > PS3 > 360.

Lems, you've got to admit that you're last.

GamerwillzPS

:lol:

All I'm getting is "Oh gawd! wtf that's stupid! blah blah blah, it's WRONG!!" without any better rebuttal.

Try to counter my argument instead.

Easy.

The 360's year head start counts.

Wow, that was simpler than I thought.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Remember guys, the 360 had an extra year. The sales of PS3 and 360 is basically tied. By using the logic behind the 360's extra year, the PS3 won.

So, it's Wii > PS3 > 360.

Lems, you've got to admit that you're last.

lundy86_4

That would make sense, if that's how we counted it. It's not wrong per se, but it isn't accurate. We go off total sales and notsales within the shortest time period.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Remember guys, the 360 had an extra year. The sales of PS3 and 360 is basically tied. By using the logic behind the 360's extra year, the PS3 won.

So, it's Wii > PS3 > 360.

Lems, you've got to admit that you're last.

GamerwillzPS

:lol:

All I'm getting is "Oh gawd! wtf that's stupid! blah blah blah, it's WRONG!!" without any better rebuttal.

Try to counter my argument instead.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]thats not logic at all, thats what we call stupidity,loldelta3074

:lol:

All I'm getting is "Oh gawd! wtf that's stupid! blah blah blah, it's WRONG!!" without any better rebuttal.

Try to counter my argument instead.

Of course, 360's first year sales should definitely count but the sales between both consoles is tied which indicates that PS3 was selling at a faster rate. Clear victory here.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

:lol:

All I'm getting is "Oh gawd! wtf that's stupid! blah blah blah, it's WRONG!!" without any better rebuttal.

Try to counter my argument instead.

GamerwillzPS

Of course, 360's first year sales should definitely count but the sales between both consoles is tied which indicates that PS3 was selling at a faster rate. Clear victory here.

Sold at a faster rate and still either tied or behind the 360.

There is no victory there, especially if you look at the bigger picture (Profit).

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

:lol:

All I'm getting is "Oh gawd! wtf that's stupid! blah blah blah, it's WRONG!!" without any better rebuttal.

Try to counter my argument instead.

GamerwillzPS

Of course, 360's first year sales should definitely count but the sales between both consoles is tied which indicates that PS3 was selling at a faster rate. Clear victory here.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Remember guys, the 360 had an extra year. The sales of PS3 and 360 is basically tied. By using the logic behind the 360's extra year, the PS3 won.

So, it's Wii > PS3 > 360.

Lems, you've got to admit that you're last.

clyde46

That would make sense, if that's how we counted it. It's not wrong per se, but it isn't accurate. We go off total sales and notsales within the shortest time period.

OMG! OMG! OMG! 30,000.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

That would make sense, if that's how we counted it. It's not wrong per se, but it isn't accurate. We go off total sales and notsales within the shortest time period.

lundy86_4

OMG! OMG! OMG! 30,000.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

That would make sense, if that's how we counted it. It's not wrong per se, but it isn't accurate. We go off total sales and notsales within the shortest time period.

lundy86_4

OMG! OMG! OMG! 30,000.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]It's not logical to completely erase a years worth of sales numbers just because a console came out a year earlier, shall we erase all the Ps2 sales that happened before the Xbox released last gen? 360's first year sales count, whether you like it or not, what you are saying is very, very childish 'i can't win this so i will move the goal posts' loldelta3074

Of course, 360's first year sales should definitely count but the sales between both consoles is tied which indicates that PS3 was selling at a faster rate. Clear victory here.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

That would make sense, if that's how we counted it. It's not wrong per se, but it isn't accurate. We go off total sales and notsales within the shortest time period.

lundy86_4

OMG! OMG! OMG! 30,000.

No-life loser confirmed!

[spoiler] Congrats! ;) [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]It's not logical to completely erase a years worth of sales numbers just because a console came out a year earlier, shall we erase all the Ps2 sales that happened before the Xbox released last gen? 360's first year sales count, whether you like it or not, what you are saying is very, very childish 'i can't win this so i will move the goal posts' loldelta3074

Of course, 360's first year sales should definitely count but the sales between both consoles is tied which indicates that PS3 was selling at a faster rate. Clear victory here.

So, you moved the goal posts in order to win?

That's what I would measure. It makes sense. We marked the beginning of the generation with the 360 which is the 1st console to enter and then we look at how well all the consoles were selling. The PS3 and 360 are tied, but the 360 had an extra year so this tells me that PS3 was selling better, therefore it already secured the 2nd place.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

1.26m for no games and Xbox Live fees. Can someone explain clearly to me why?

RR360DD

Console with the best library (according to both gamespot and metacritic), best online service, best controller, best multiplats .....

Seems like a good reason to buy the 360;)

Most of which came out in 2007. Dont kid yourself, its advertisement plain and simple.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Of course, 360's first year sales should definitely count but the sales between both consoles is tied which indicates that PS3 was selling at a faster rate. Clear victory here.

GamerwillzPS

So, you moved the goal posts in order to win?

That's what I would measure. It makes sense. We marked the beginning of the generation with the 360 which is the 1st console to enter and then we look at how well all the consoles were selling. The PS3 and 360 are tied, but the 360 had an extra year so this tells me that PS3 was selling better, therefore it already secured the 2nd place.

You're the one moving the goal posts by saying "but the PS3 sold at a faster rate!"

The fact of the matter is, the PS3 tied a number in November (with combined PS2 sales apparently but I'll give it the benefit of the doubt) a number the 360 hit at the end of September. All indications show that the PS3 moved less units this month than the 360.

It doesn't take a rocket surgeon (that was intentional, btw) to figure out that the math favors the 360.

But yeah, let's keep on moving those goal posts!

Face facts kiddo. The PS3 is still in last place.

The Wii U came out Nov 18th...so that's a bit late to even count. On top of that, it's still sold out 99% of places. So another unfair comparison. As for the Wii...it still sells. But most are moving onto the Wii U. MS's next console won't be out for at least another 10-12 months.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

1.26m for no games and Xbox Live fees. Can someone explain clearly to me why?

NineTailedGoku

Console with the best library (according to both gamespot and metacritic), best online service, best controller, best multiplats .....

Seems like a good reason to buy the 360;)

Most of which came out in 2007. Dont kid yourself, its advertisement plain and simple.

Many, not most.

And who cares? The 360 still has the better library of games when compared to the PS3 by any objective measure.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]If we actually measured it by that then yes, but we don't so NO, we count overall hardware sales.The_Game21x

So, you moved the goal posts in order to win?

That's what I would measure. It makes sense. We marked the beginning of the generation with the 360 which is the 1st console to enter and then we look at how well all the consoles were selling. The PS3 and 360 are tied, but the 360 had an extra year so this tells me that PS3 was selling better, therefore it already secured the 2nd place.

The fact of the matter is, the PS3 tied a number in November (with combined PS2 sales apparently but I'll give it the benefit of the doubt) a number the 360 hit at the end of September. All indications show that the PS3 moved less units this month than the 360.

You're talking about the US sales? If so, I'll take it with a grain of salt.

The US is nothing. Worldwide sales is how we should look at it. The PS3 is dominating by brute force in the EU and Asia, those continents has bigger markets.

In conclusion, enjoy the last place.

The Wii U came out Nov 18th...so that's a bit late to even count. On top of that, it's still sold out 99% of places. So another unfair comparison. As for the Wii...it still sells. But most are moving onto the Wii U. MS's next console won't be out for at least another 10-12 months.

Puckhog04

Not really.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

So, you moved the goal posts in order to win?

That's what I would measure. It makes sense. We marked the beginning of the generation with the 360 which is the 1st console to enter and then we look at how well all the consoles were selling. The PS3 and 360 are tied, but the 360 had an extra year so this tells me that PS3 was selling better, therefore it already secured the 2nd place.

GamerwillzPS

The fact of the matter is, the PS3 tied a number in November (with combined PS2 sales apparently but I'll give it the benefit of the doubt) a number the 360 hit at the end of September. All indications show that the PS3 moved less units this month than the 360.

You're talking about the US sales? If so, I'll take it with a grain of salt.

The US is nothing. Worldwide sales is how we should look at it. The PS3 is dominating by brute force in the EU and Asia, those continents has bigger markets.

In conclusion, enjoy the last place.

Alright, prove it.

Let's see some proof that the PS3 is "dominating" in Europe and Asia enough to close the gap and surpass the 360.

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

The Wii U came out Nov 18th...so that's a bit late to even count. On top of that, it's still sold out 99% of places. So another unfair comparison. As for the Wii...it still sells. But most are moving onto the Wii U. MS's next console won't be out for at least another 10-12 months.

FastEddie2121

Not really.

Yes, they literally started getting them in. I know the managers at a few of my local gamestops. There's a huge waiting list at each Gamestop. Also, now call and ask how quick they're selling out...because my local ones can't keep them in stock though there is a ready supply being shipped.

[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Console with the best library (according to both gamespot and metacritic), best online service, best controller, best multiplats .....

Seems like a good reason to buy the 360;)

The_Game21x

Most of which came out in 2007. Dont kid yourself, its advertisement plain and simple.

Many, not most.

And who cares? The 360 still has the better library of games when compared to the PS3 by any objective measure.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

The fact of the matter is, the PS3 tied a number in November (with combined PS2 sales apparently but I'll give it the benefit of the doubt) a number the 360 hit at the end of September. All indications show that the PS3 moved less units this month than the 360.

The_Game21x

You're talking about the US sales? If so, I'll take it with a grain of salt.

The US is nothing. Worldwide sales is how we should look at it. The PS3 is dominating by brute force in the EU and Asia, those continents has bigger markets.

In conclusion, enjoy the last place.

Alright, prove it.

Let's see some proof that the PS3 is "dominating" in Europe and Asia enough to close the gap and surpass the 360.

Here we go. Remember to check out the charts in some of these links. They worth thousands of words.

Link - 2011 sales

Link - 2012 sales

Link- Japan

Admit it, the PS3 is a better operating console for the majority of the world. The only place where the 360 have dominated is the US, which is nothing. You simply cannot claim victory from that.

Every year we get this from the cows. And every year it doesn't happen. Sad sight to see. It's like watching a football game and they are the losing players on the field still believe they should have won when everyone in the stands have already left.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Of course, 360's first year sales should definitely count but the sales between both consoles is tied which indicates that PS3 was selling at a faster rate. Clear victory here.

GamerwillzPS

So, you moved the goal posts in order to win?

That's what I would measure. It makes sense. We marked the beginning of the generation with the 360 which is the 1st console to enter and then we look at how well all the consoles were selling. The PS3 and 360 are tied, but the 360 had an extra year so this tells me that PS3 was selling better, therefore it already secured the 2nd place.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="delta3074"]If we actually measured it by that then yes, but we don't so NO, we count overall hardware sales.sts106mat

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

You're talking about the US sales? If so, I'll take it with a grain of salt.

The US is nothing. Worldwide sales is how we should look at it. The PS3 is dominating by brute force in the EU and Asia, those continents has bigger markets.

In conclusion, enjoy the last place.

GamerwillzPS

Alright, prove it.

Let's see some proof that the PS3 is "dominating" in Europe and Asia enough to close the gap and surpass the 360.

Here we go. Remember to check out the charts in some of these links. They worth thousands of words.

Link - 2011 sales

Link - 2012 sales

Link- Japan

Admit it, the PS3 is a better operating console for the majority of the world. The only place where the 360 have dominated is the US, which is nothing. You simply cannot claim victory from that.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Alright, prove it.

Let's see some proof that the PS3 is "dominating" in Europe and Asia enough to close the gap and surpass the 360.

delta3074

Here we go. Remember to check out the charts in some of these links. They worth thousands of words.

Link - 2011 sales

Link - 2012 sales

Link- Japan

Admit it, the PS3 is a better operating console for the majority of the world. The only place where the 360 have dominated is the US, which is nothing. You simply cannot claim victory from that.

Wrong.

Link.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Alright, prove it.

Let's see some proof that the PS3 is "dominating" in Europe and Asia enough to close the gap and surpass the 360.

delta3074

Here we go. Remember to check out the charts in some of these links. They worth thousands of words.

Link - 2011 sales

Link - 2012 sales

Link- Japan

Admit it, the PS3 is a better operating console for the majority of the world. The only place where the 360 have dominated is the US, which is nothing. You simply cannot claim victory from that.

[QUOTE="FastEddie2121"]

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

The Wii U came out Nov 18th...so that's a bit late to even count. On top of that, it's still sold out 99% of places. So another unfair comparison. As for the Wii...it still sells. But most are moving onto the Wii U. MS's next console won't be out for at least another 10-12 months.

Puckhog04

Not really.

Yes, they literally started getting them in. I know the managers at a few of my local gamestops. There's a huge waiting list at each Gamestop. Also, now call and ask how quick they're selling out...because my local ones can't keep them in stock though there is a ready supply being shipped.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

1.26m for no games and Xbox Live fees. Can someone explain clearly to me why?

RR360DD

Console with the best library (according to both gamespot and metacritic), best online service, best controller, best multiplats .....

Seems like a good reason to buy the 360;)

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

1.26m for no games and Xbox Live fees. Can someone explain clearly to me why?

Mozelleple112

Console with the best library (according to both gamespot and metacritic), best online service, best controller, best multiplats .....

Seems like a good reason to buy the 360;)

Quoted for the truth.

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Console with the best library (according to both gamespot and metacritic), best online service, best controller, best multiplats .....

Seems like a good reason to buy the 360;)

GamerwillzPS

Quoted for the truth.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Here we go. Remember to check out the charts in some of these links. They worth thousands of words.

Link - 2011 sales

Link - 2012 sales

Link- Japan

Admit it, the PS3 is a better operating console for the majority of the world. The only place where the 360 have dominated is the US, which is nothing. You simply cannot claim victory from that.

GamerwillzPS

Wrong.

Link.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Alright, prove it.

Let's see some proof that the PS3 is "dominating" in Europe and Asia enough to close the gap and surpass the 360.

delta3074

Here we go. Remember to check out the charts in some of these links. They worth thousands of words.

Link - 2011 sales

Link - 2012 sales

Link- Japan

Admit it, the PS3 is a better operating console for the majority of the world. The only place where the 360 have dominated is the US, which is nothing. You simply cannot claim victory from that.

This.

Even if the PS3 sells slightly better than the 360 in Europe, the 360's commanding lead in the US is more than enough to balance it out.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Here we go. Remember to check out the charts in some of these links. They worth thousands of words.

Link - 2011 sales

Link - 2012 sales

Link- Japan

Admit it, the PS3 is a better operating console for the majority of the world. The only place where the 360 have dominated is the US, which is nothing. You simply cannot claim victory from that.

PinnacleGamingP

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

1.26m for no games and Xbox Live fees. Can someone explain clearly to me why?

Mozelleple112

Console with the best library (according to both gamespot and metacritic), best online service, best controller, best multiplats .....

Seems like a good reason to buy the 360;)

Prove it.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]yet the 360 ousold the Ps3 worldwide by 600,00 units in 2011, that would mean that NA and UK sales of the 360 where more than enough to secure the 360 first place in worldwide sales would it not?delta3074

Wrong.

Link.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

1.26m for no games and Xbox Live fees. Can someone explain clearly to me why?

Mozelleple112

Console with the best library (according to both gamespot and metacritic), best online service, best controller, best multiplats .....

Seems like a good reason to buy the 360;)

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Wrong.

Link.

PinnacleGamingP

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Console with the best library (according to both gamespot and metacritic), best online service, best controller, best multiplats .....

Seems like a good reason to buy the 360;)

GamerwillzPS

Quoted for the truth.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Here we go. Remember to check out the charts in some of these links. They worth thousands of words.

Link - 2011 sales

Link - 2012 sales

Link- Japan

Admit it, the PS3 is a better operating console for the majority of the world. The only place where the 360 have dominated is the US, which is nothing. You simply cannot claim victory from that.

The_Game21x

This.

Even if the PS3 sells slightly better than the 360 in Europe, the 360's commanding lead in the US is more than enough to balance it out.

Yet you didn't provide any evidence to point out that the 360 sold better.

I have provided enough to show that you are all wrong. PS3 sold better in the overall worldwide sales, I already proved it and you haven't. Or is it too much for you to accept?

I repeat, the US is nothing. Typical Americans thinking the world is covered by their land... No, it doesn't. There are continents out there. There are different countries out there that has better tastes than you Americans.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]yet the 360 ousold the Ps3 worldwide by 600,00 units in 2011, that would mean that NA and UK sales of the 360 where more than enough to secure the 360 first place in worldwide sales would it not?GamerwillzPS

This.

Even if the PS3 sells slightly better than the 360 in Europe, the 360's commanding lead in the US is more than enough to balance it out.

Yet you didn't provide any evidence to point out that the 360 sold better.

I have provided enough to show that you are all wrong. PS3 sold better in the overall worldwide sales, I already proved it and you haven't. Or is it too much for you to accept?

I repeat, the US is nothing. Typical Americans thinking the world is covered by their land... No, it doesn't. There are continents out there. There are different countries out there that has better tastes than you Americans.

Cows are hilarious. The numbers are exactly in line with the numbers reported last year and the 360 ended up outselling the PS3 WW in 2011. 2012 wont be any different. Another victory for the 360 and another year where cows make up excuses why the PS3 cant overtake the 360.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]yet the 360 ousold the Ps3 worldwide by 600,00 units in 2011, that would mean that NA and UK sales of the 360 where more than enough to secure the 360 first place in worldwide sales would it not?GamerwillzPS

This.

Even if the PS3 sells slightly better than the 360 in Europe, the 360's commanding lead in the US is more than enough to balance it out.

Yet you didn't provide any evidence to point out that the 360 sold better.

I have provided enough to show that you are all wrong. PS3 sold better in the overall worldwide sales, I already proved it and you haven't. Or is it too much for you to accept?

I repeat, the US is nothing. Typical Americans thinking the world is covered by their land... No, it doesn't. There are continents out there. There are different countries out there that has better tastes than you Americans.

No you haven't. You've shown me a bunch of charts from Europe and Japan, not any definitive numbers that show the PS3 outsold the 360 worldwide this year or last, and as delta already linked, last year, the PS3 sold less than the 360 worldwide.

I like how you immediately descend into America bashing and making blanket statements about people saying their land covers all (when no one here has even hinted at that) and making other baseless assumptions about the tastes of gamers worldwide compared to Americans. You're a joke. I love how you America bashers consistently make yourselves look worse than the people you're bashing. Good job on that one.

Show me some actual numbers that prove your case that the PS3 has overtaken the 360 worldwide or sit down and be quiet.

:lol: "sonys own report" neogaf.comPinnacleGamingP

They consolidated the results and listed the full report within the post. Are you stupid?