So does this stop piracy

Streaming some parts of game from a server like diablo3 did and now simcity is doing.

So there wont be anyother option other than buy the game to enjoy it.

It was one of the reason why D3 sold so well inspite of not being that great and no pvp.

Streaming some parts of game from a server like diablo3 did and now simcity is doing.

So there wont be anyother option other than buy the game to enjoy it.

It was one of the reason why D3 sold so well inspite of not being that great and no pvp.

sandeep410

Industrial espionage? Nothing's stopped developers from offering friends free access before...

Nope. Diablo 3 in China was cracked with emulated servers(though it was missing content) before it even released. And there are a few vids on youtube directing viewers towards offline cracks.

To be able to emulate Diablo 3 entirely...you will need the server files directly from Blizzard.

The emulators that u can find on warez sites...they are based on the DEMO!There is no emulator for D3 which works for the later levels...the AI dosent work at all...the item drops are very few...and thats about it!

Yes this is the way to stop piracy!
And please stop with this BS "draconic DRM"....i dont see you guys swearing at youtube for being an online service...or NetFlix...etc.
Who said the game content must be all on the disc or hdd??Where is this rule? You dont have internet connection you dont buy it!!!EASY AS THAT!

To be able to emulate Diablo 3 entirely...you will need the server files directly from Blizzard.

The emulators that u can find on warez sites...they are based on the DEMO!There is no emulator for D3 which works for the later levels...the AI dosent work at all...the item drops are very few...and thats about it!

Yes this is the way to stop piracy!
And please stop with this BS "draconic DRM"....i dont see you guys swearing at youtube for being an online service...or NetFlix...etc.
Who said the game content must be all on the disc or hdd??Where is this rule? You dont have internet connection you dont buy it!!!EASY AS THAT!

rhazzy

To be able to emulate Diablo 3 entirely...you will need the server files directly from Blizzard.

The emulators that u can find on warez sites...they are based on the DEMO!There is no emulator for D3 which works for the later levels...the AI dosent work at all...the item drops are very few...and thats about it!

Yes this is the way to stop piracy!
And please stop with this BS "draconic DRM"....i dont see you guys swearing at youtube for being an online service...or NetFlix...etc.
Who said the game content must be all on the disc or hdd??Where is this rule? You dont have internet connection you dont buy it!!!EASY AS THAT!

rhazzy

There's so many holes in this post I don't know where to begin

To be able to emulate Diablo 3 entirely...you will need the server files directly from Blizzard.

The emulators that u can find on warez sites...they are based on the DEMO!There is no emulator for D3 which works for the later levels...the AI dosent work at all...the item drops are very few...and thats about it!

Yes this is the way to stop piracy!
And please stop with this BS "draconic DRM"....i dont see you guys swearing at youtube for being an online service...or NetFlix...etc.
Who said the game content must be all on the disc or hdd??Where is this rule? You dont have internet connection you dont buy it!!!EASY AS THAT!

rhazzy

It just delays it a bit longer. Diablo 3 has been pirated for months if torrent sites are to be believed.JohnF111

[QUOTE="JohnF111"]It just delays it a bit longer. Diablo 3 has been pirated for months if torrent sites are to be believed.DanielDust

To be able to emulate Diablo 3 entirely...you will need the server files directly from Blizzard.

The emulators that u can find on warez sites...they are based on the DEMO!There is no emulator for D3 which works for the later levels...the AI dosent work at all...the item drops are very few...and thats about it!

Yes this is the way to stop piracy!
And please stop with this BS "draconic DRM"....i dont see you guys swearing at youtube for being an online service...or NetFlix...etc.
Who said the game content must be all on the disc or hdd??Where is this rule? You dont have internet connection you dont buy it!!!EASY AS THAT!

rhazzy

Not sure if I 100% agree with you, but you make a point. There are several threds made about people complaining they can't max a game. The usual retort to said thread is "get better hardware." I can see the same argument with this issue made as "get a better internet connection."

[QUOTE="rhazzy"]

To be able to emulate Diablo 3 entirely...you will need the server files directly from Blizzard.

The emulators that u can find on warez sites...they are based on the DEMO!There is no emulator for D3 which works for the later levels...the AI dosent work at all...the item drops are very few...and thats about it!

Yes this is the way to stop piracy!
And please stop with this BS "draconic DRM"....i dont see you guys swearing at youtube for being an online service...or NetFlix...etc.
Who said the game content must be all on the disc or hdd??Where is this rule? You dont have internet connection you dont buy it!!!EASY AS THAT!

Cwagmire21

Not sure if I 100% agree with you, but you make a point. There are several threds made about people complaining they can't max a game. The usual retort to said thread is "get better hardware." I can see the same argument with this issue made as "get a better internet connection."

To be able to emulate Diablo 3 entirely...you will need the server files directly from Blizzard.

The emulators that u can find on warez sites...they are based on the DEMO!There is no emulator for D3 which works for the later levels...the AI dosent work at all...the item drops are very few...and thats about it!

Yes this is the way to stop piracy!
And please stop with this BS "draconic DRM"....i dont see you guys swearing at youtube for being an online service...or NetFlix...etc.
Who said the game content must be all on the disc or hdd??Where is this rule? You dont have internet connection you dont buy it!!!EASY AS THAT!

rhazzy

[QUOTE="rhazzy"]

To be able to emulate Diablo 3 entirely...you will need the server files directly from Blizzard.

The emulators that u can find on warez sites...they are based on the DEMO!There is no emulator for D3 which works for the later levels...the AI dosent work at all...the item drops are very few...and thats about it!

Yes this is the way to stop piracy!
And please stop with this BS "draconic DRM"....i dont see you guys swearing at youtube for being an online service...or NetFlix...etc.
Who said the game content must be all on the disc or hdd??Where is this rule? You dont have internet connection you dont buy it!!!EASY AS THAT!

Lost-to-Apathy

Such DRM completely eliminates the side that pirates, why should, let's say, 40 million enjoy a game, when only 1 mill actually supports the game.

[QUOTE="Lost-to-Apathy"][QUOTE="rhazzy"]

To be able to emulate Diablo 3 entirely...you will need the server files directly from Blizzard.

The emulators that u can find on warez sites...they are based on the DEMO!There is no emulator for D3 which works for the later levels...the AI dosent work at all...the item drops are very few...and thats about it!

Yes this is the way to stop piracy!
And please stop with this BS "draconic DRM"....i dont see you guys swearing at youtube for being an online service...or NetFlix...etc.
Who said the game content must be all on the disc or hdd??Where is this rule? You dont have internet connection you dont buy it!!!EASY AS THAT!

DanielDust

Such DRM completely eliminates the side that pirates, why should, let's say, 40 million enjoy a game, when only 1 mill actually supports the game.

From a personal standpoint, I'd like to play the game, but I won't buy it unless it's dirt cheap because of the DRM.  Same with SimCity.

That wasn't a will not buy argument it was a, they will all play what they didn't spend a single cent on, will not buy anyway is just nonsense to use when such drm makes sure they get what they pay for, which is nothing.

Anyway wish you luck on avoiding such games, it will be the standard in the near future.

[QUOTE="rhazzy"]

To be able to emulate Diablo 3 entirely...you will need the server files directly from Blizzard.

The emulators that u can find on warez sites...they are based on the DEMO!There is no emulator for D3 which works for the later levels...the AI dosent work at all...the item drops are very few...and thats about it!

Yes this is the way to stop piracy!
And please stop with this BS "draconic DRM"....i dont see you guys swearing at youtube for being an online service...or NetFlix...etc.
Who said the game content must be all on the disc or hdd??Where is this rule? You dont have internet connection you dont buy it!!!EASY AS THAT!

wis3boi

There's so many holes in this post I don't know where to begin

That wasn't a will not buy argument it was a, they will all play what they didn't spend a single cent on, will not buy anyway is just nonsense to use when such drm makes sure they get what they pay for, which is nothing.

Anyway wish you luck on avoiding such games, it will be the standard in the near future.

DanielDust

No it doesn't stop piracy. There are ways to get around all forms of drm 

No it doesn't stop piracy. There are ways to get around all forms of drm 

James161324

So far, no one has successfully done that for Diablo 3. The cracked copies that are available are based on the demo, and the game systems (AI, Loot drops, etc.) are completely broken past that point. Any pirate site claiming to have a fully functioning offline cracked copy of Diablo 3 is lying.

Either way, that still isn't going to "stop piracy". People hate always online DRM. Diablo 3 gets away with it for a couple reasons. 1: Even though some people play ARPGs like that single player, most people play them multiplayer, and wouldn't have been wanting to play offline anyway. And 2: It's Blizzard. And it's Diablo. So even though it's effectively stopped piracy for that particular game, single player games aren't going to move into that kind of DRM, if publishers know what's good for them.

[QUOTE="DanielDust"]

That wasn't a will not buy argument it was a, they will all play what they didn't spend a single cent on, will not buy anyway is just nonsense to use when such drm makes sure they get what they pay for, which is nothing.

Anyway wish you luck on avoiding such games, it will be the standard in the near future.

guynamedbilly

This is pretty much the only solution.

Unfortunate, but I'm willing to put up with it if it stomps out piracy on PC.

It's a huge problem, and those free-loading jack-@sses are ruining our platform. Diablo 3 shows that a popular game on PC could sells 10+ million copies... IF no one could pirate it.  Diablo 3 would have sold 4 million copies TOPS if they had released a fully working single player client. Maybe even less.

Hell, the success of free to play games shows the same thing. Give away the client, and suddenly even the worthless pirates will jump in, to the tune of tens of millions (league of legends for example).

I hate pirates, I hate what they've done to my platform. PC exclusives are almost entirely multi-player online experiences now And I LOVE single player experiences, which are now almost gone thanks to them.

This is pretty much the only solution.

 

Unfortunate, but I'm willing to put up with it if it stomps out piracy on PC.

 

It's a huge problem, and those free-loading jack-@sses are ruining our platform. Diablo 3 shows that a popular game on PC could sells 10+ million copies... IF no one could pirate it.  Diablo 3 would have sold 4 million copies TOPS if they had released a fully working single player client. Maybe even less.

 

Hell, the success of free to play games shows the same thing. Give away the client, and suddenly even the worthless pirates will jump in, to the tune of tens of millions (league of legends for example).

 

I hate pirates, I hate what they've done to my platform. PC exclusives are almost entirely multi-player online experiences now And I LOVE single player experiences, which are now almost gone thanks to them.

Kinthalis

Diablo 3 sold 10 million becuase its blizzard and they have a cult basically, not becuase it was hard to pirate 

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

This is pretty much the only solution.

 

Unfortunate, but I'm willing to put up with it if it stomps out piracy on PC.

 

It's a huge problem, and those free-loading jack-@sses are ruining our platform. Diablo 3 shows that a popular game on PC could sells 10+ million copies... IF no one could pirate it.  Diablo 3 would have sold 4 million copies TOPS if they had released a fully working single player client. Maybe even less.

 

Hell, the success of free to play games shows the same thing. Give away the client, and suddenly even the worthless pirates will jump in, to the tune of tens of millions (league of legends for example).

 

I hate pirates, I hate what they've done to my platform. PC exclusives are almost entirely multi-player online experiences now And I LOVE single player experiences, which are now almost gone thanks to them.

James161324

Diablo 3 sold 10 million becuase its blizzard and they have a cult basically, not becuase it was hard to pirate 

They have a cult of 12 million gamers?

Oh please.  The reason they sold that many copes is becuase:

1- despite the vocal minority of haters, it was a pretty good game. 

2. It was well marketed and highly anticipated.

3. It could not be pirated.

Have you seen the comments on Diablo 3 torrents?  It's like thousands of lines of people asking for a crack, and then thousands more of people giving up and saying that they'll go buy the game.

If Blizzard had released a single player client that fully worked off-line, I guarantee you, they would not have sold half as many copies.  Star Craft 2 was easily as anticipated as Diablo 3, IMHO. It sold like, what, 3-4 million copies in the same amout of time as Diablo 3?  The main difference? You could pirate the single player portion of that game.

Does anyone else hate having to depend on your internet connection to play a single player game? I sure do. How about finding another solution to combat piracy without inconveniencing those of us whom are not pirates.

I wouldn't even waste my bandwidth on a game that requires me to be online 100% of the time. A business can't even guarantee 100% uptime, it's not possible. You also never own the product and can't play the game unless they say so. So it's an inherently flawed concept. If you give money to this kind of bullcrap you're a sheep and an idiot.SKaREO

if they're using apache to serve requests then, steady internet connection or not, it'll be unreliable, even though i'm sure they have some serious server hardware.

if theyre using a more recent server type like nginx (maybe node is too new) then there's a better chance of consistency because, unlike apache, its insanely scalable and uses a fraction of apache's system resources

No, server streaming is silly and I won't buy any games that use that. How will these games be played 10-20 years from now? What if you had to download world 8 of Super Mario World? I prefer games that come as one package and can be played offline.YoshiYogurt

Then you no need to worry about this things...Mario World will be the only kind of game you will be playing

I wouldn't even waste my bandwidth on a game that requires me to be online 100% of the time. A business can't even guarantee 100% uptime, it's not possible. You also never own the product and can't play the game unless they say so. So it's an inherently flawed concept. If you give money to this kind of bullcrap you're a sheep and an idiot.SKaREO

[QUOTE="SKaREO"]I wouldn't even waste my bandwidth on a game that requires me to be online 100% of the time. A business can't even guarantee 100% uptime, it's not possible. You also never own the product and can't play the game unless they say so. So it's an inherently flawed concept. If you give money to this kind of bullcrap you're a sheep and an idiot.JohnF111

[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="SKaREO"]I wouldn't even waste my bandwidth on a game that requires me to be online 100% of the time. A business can't even guarantee 100% uptime, it's not possible. You also never own the product and can't play the game unless they say so. So it's an inherently flawed concept. If you give money to this kind of bullcrap you're a sheep and an idiot.SKaREO

[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="SKaREO"] You're a perfect example of the people throwing money at this bullcrap. An idiot who can't even form a reasonable understanding of what you're purchasing. You are buying a license to play a game that is only playable when the company says you can play it. You're never going to be able to mod the game. You're never going to be able to play it on a laptop while you travel. You're never going to be able to play it after they stop supporting it. Why would you put yourself through that kind of bullcrap just to play a subpar video game? Moron.SKaREO

Stick to games that can be used on a laptop whenever you have internet instead of whining about the ones that don't.

Yeah, it probably does slow piracy (not sure if anything will ever stop it) but it also guarantees the I won't be purchasing your game.  I will never buy a single-player game that requires me to be on-line to play it.  Never. It's just that simple.  Require me to activate the game once and register it, fine, but stay connected while I play?  Nope, not going to happen.  

I'm actually encouraged that Europe is mandating that companies allow the re-sale of digital games.  Chalk one up for the consumers, at least the European ones, I guess.  Sadly, we would never impose such meddling restrictions and regulations on our beloved job creators.

It is something like that, you buy a dress from a shop and you can only wear it when the shop allow you to wear it. Other wise you are a naked person. That's how the DRM actually work. I pay full amount for a game but I have to assure them its me playing and not only that they can disable the server whenever they wish. Why? We are the consumers here. The product is made for us. And once we purchase a product its completely depend on us how are we going to use it (I mean online, offline whatever line). If the company disagree then don't tell video game is a product, change its name to comodity.

Stop with the retard comparisons....

I dont see u guys complain about not being able to drive your

 cars anywhere else than the streets...