When you really think about it, logically, Atheism just doesn't make sense.

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#51 Diablo-B
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pain

 

I will not feed the troll.

Fight it... Fight it

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#52 deactivated-5acfa3a8bc51d
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pain

 

I will not feed the troll.

Fight it... Fight it

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You did with this thread bump lol. Nothing new under the sun! I don't feel like feeding the troll neither. Waiting for the goblins to fight this troll.
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#53 maheo30
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[QUOTE="maheo30"]I left atheism because I just couldn't find any rational evidence for it as a worldview. worlock77

Yeah, there's all kinds of rational evidence for the Christian worldview.

Actually, there is loads of it. Just because you are too lazy to truly study it out doesn't mean I am.
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#54 br0kenrabbit
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Actually, there is loads of it. Just because you are too lazy to truly study it out doesn't mean I am. maheo30

I have yet to hear a Christian explain away the evolutionary fingerprints in Human Chromosome 2. If you don't know what I'm talking about, maybe it's you who needs to study more.

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#55 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="maheo30"]I left atheism because I just couldn't find any rational evidence for it as a worldview. maheo30

Yeah, there's all kinds of rational evidence for the Christian worldview.

Actually, there is loads of it. Just because you are too lazy to truly study it out doesn't mean I am.

There isn't, and frankly, by attempting to demonstrate your worldview rationally you're completely undermining the idea of faith.

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#56 Bane_09
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When you really think about it, logically, TC is a goddamned moron.

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#57 lowkey254
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[QUOTE="Bane_09"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

When you really think about it, logically, TC is a goddamned moron.

Nice way to combat his argument.
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#58 nomsayin
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I had a Mercedez, but then it fell apart because it was a cheap knock-off of that woman who dances at the club.

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is this a Vice City reference?
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#59 THE_DRUGGIE
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[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

I had a Mercedez, but then it fell apart because it was a cheap knock-off of that woman who dances at the club.

nomsayin

is this a Vice City reference?

It is, if you want it to be.

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#60 MonoSilver
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The more I think about it logically, it makes much more sense than believing in something that can't be proven to be real or to have ever happened.
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#61 theone86
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Lol, watchmaker argument.  One of the oldest in the book, one of the eqasiest to debunk.

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#62 theone86
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

When you really think about it, logically, TC is a goddamned moron.

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#63 Tropictrain
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It doesn't really work that way, as several others have stated. However, let's assume it does. There is still a very small chance those pieces would form a car if you shook them long enough. So, considering Earth is the only planet we know of that has life as advanced as we are... You just explained why life is so rare in the universe. This is the planet where the pieces happened to fit into place. 

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#64 mingmao3046
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Imagine this: You had all the parts to a Mercedez dissassembled, piece by piece, you put them all into one big bag, and shook it up for say, an infinite amount of time. After some time you open the bag to find a Mclaren assembled.

 

 

Now, replace Mercedez with life, and all the ingredients necessary. Does it seem possible? No. The Mercedez probability is effectively zero. Therefore life forming on earth is effectively zero. And effectively zero is not a good model for how life came to be.

 

And so we need to think scientifically. We need a new model. We conclude that maybe design was deliberate. This makes sense. A clock has to be designed, a car has to be designed. So we stick with our designer concept, intelligent design if you will. We test it out.

 

Life looks well designed. Things are well suited to their environment and what have you. Well, the model is fair. Nothing goes against it so far and thus, we have our theory. 

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#65 FuggaJ
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[QUOTE="LordQuorthon"]

When you think about it logically, God is pretty damn awesome and Jesus was a pretty cool guy. Eh performed miracles and doesn't afraid of anything.  

alim298

THAT is your logical proof of God's existence? With that I pretty much can say "When you think about it logically, The Cow that jews worshiped was damn awesome." Are all your believes based on such loose strings?

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#66 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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evolution describes the process through which organisms become more complex
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#67 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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You're quite right. There's lot of evidence of a higher being in the world.

Oh wait...

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#68 THE_DRUGGIE
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You're quite right. There's lot of evidence of a higher being in the world.

Oh wait...

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You know Izanagi-no-Okami is real, you silly.

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#69 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

You're quite right. There's lot of evidence of a higher being in the world.

Oh wait...

THE_DRUGGIE

You know Izanagi-no-Okami is real, you silly.

No shit. So if I believe that, what religion am I?

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#70 THE_DRUGGIE
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[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

You're quite right. There's lot of evidence of a higher being in the world.

Oh wait...

jimkabrhel

You know Izanagi-no-Okami is real, you silly.

No shit. So if I believe that, what religion am I?

Personaism!

I choose Pyro Jack 'cause he's cute.

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#71 PcGamingRig
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I don't think anyone has shook a bag for billions of years.

But there is a lot more to it than that anyway.

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#72 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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I don't think anyone has shook a bag for billions of years.

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#73 Tonindo
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I'm from a country where at least 80% of the population does not believe in a god or a higher being. I very rarely meet a person in real life that truly believes in such nonsense. It's shocking to me that someone would even try to make fun of atheism, or to try and rationalize how god is a real being. All religion really is, is making up for the answers we don't have. We don't know the purpose to why a tree look the way it does. Do we need to?

Atheism makes sense of the things we know of. Religion just fills in the gaps. Poorly. It's puzzling to me that someone could believe in a god rather than science, which actually provides evidence for its claims.

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#74 Wolfetan
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"Life looks well designed. Things are well suited to their environment and what have you. Well, the model is fair. Nothing goes against it so far and thus, we have our theory. " Opinion! Same as being an Athiest or being a Christian, its an opinion.

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The Watch Makers argument. Why do ID proponents recycle the same garbage all the time despite it being soundly refuted? Christ, it must be Ray Comfort's account.
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#76 Randolph
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The Watch Makers argument. Why do ID proponents recycle the same garbage all the time despite it being soundly refuted? Christ, it must be Ray Comfort's account. HoolaHoopMan
Seriously, this is just the Boeing 747 argument repackaged. Much like how ID is just creationism repackaged. Much like how the bulk of the bible is older religious myths repackaged.
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#77 xXTalismanXx
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When you think about, most people who deny/accept the existence of God without compelling evidence, and tell others that their beliefs are wrong because they said so just doesn't make any sense at all. it's also downright hypocrisy

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#78 FMAB_GTO
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ITT TC will meet so many people on Judgement day.
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#79 branketra
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>We conclude that maybe design was deliberate That is an indefinite conclusion. Religion is based on faith, but not logic. This is coming from a Christian.
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#80 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]Athiesm not only not make sense but also been debunked. Athiest just want to be super cool on internet. Evolution is debunked too

Evolution debunked,where?
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#81 capaho
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The fundamental flaw in the myth of creationism is that it necessarily requires incest as a component in order to work.  Think about it, if Adam and Eve were the originating parents of all humans, then the next generation of parents down from them (their immediate offspring) would have to have been siblings, which means that sexual reproduction would not have been possible without it also being incest.  The next generation of parents would then have been either siblings or cousins.  See the problem?

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#82 Angie7F
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meh. I couldnt care less. Whatever the motivation is or the lack of it, I am here and I have to live.

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#83 Randolph
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The fundamental flaw in the myth of creationism is that it necessarily requires incest as a component in order to work.  Think about it, if Adam and Eve were the originating parents of all humans, then the next generation of parents down from them (their immediate offspring) would have to have been siblings, which means that sexual reproduction would not have been possible without it also being incest.  The next generation of parents would then have been either siblings or cousins.  See the problem?

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The Christian response is to ignore that, or claim they ad sex with fallen angels, so basically, magic men herp derp.
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#84 chrisrooR
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When you really think about it, logically, TC is a goddamned moron.

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#85 deactivated-5c74ba2955026
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This thread gives me a headache
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#86 gamingqueen
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This thread gives me a headache Starchaser187

So many threads today actually hehehe

worlock what do you think?

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I can't believe 5 pages of people were gullible enough to bite on this.
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#88 worlock77
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[QUOTE="Starchaser187"]This thread gives me a headache gamingqueen

So many threads today actually hehehe

worlock what do you think?

I think that I do not have a headache.

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#90 wis3boi
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LOL MetalDogGear thread.

Didnt read OP.

and nothing of value was lost.

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#91 Rich3232
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Why do people keep thinking that the world/universe/whatever else was designed for us and that it "changed" itself for us. It's the other way actually; WE adapted to the planet.
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I can't believe 5 pages of people were gullible enough to bite on this. Ninja-Hippo
that's this forum in a nutshell for ya!
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i got headache too when all athiest are tyring to be super cool but they cant hide that athiesm is been debunk and so evolution. so many intelligent scientist debunked evolution.SNIPER4321

Ayup, completly debunked. No question about it.

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#94 wis3boi
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Why do people keep thinking that the world/universe/whatever else was designed for us and that it "changed" itself for us. It's the other way actually; WE adapted to the planet. Rich3232

that would make is not the center of attention! The horror!

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#95 Teenaged
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Now, replace Mercedez with life, [...]

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No I wont.

The analogy is stupid beyond words.

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#96 worlock77
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[QUOTE="Starchaser187"]This thread gives me a headache SNIPER4321
i got headache too when all athiest are tyring to be super cool but they cant hide that athiesm is been debunk and so evolution. so many intelligent scientist debunked evolution.

You keep saying this but never substantiate it.

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#97 deactivated-58061ea11c905
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Atheism always made perfect sense to me contrary to what delusional believers might want to believe.

When I look at the world I don't see God or design all I see is people suffering and dying.

All the scientific evidence that I have seen so far points to that human life is really insignificant in the universe and that we could be wiped by a natural accident at any moment.

The fact is this universe and this planet is probably all garbage.

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#99 br0kenrabbit
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because i have solid evidence??? where is the proof that evolution is 100% true? apart from stupid picture and Richard dawkin. http://scienceagainstevolution.info/v13i8f.htm every intelligent biologist agree that evolution is myth.SNIPER4321

Do you know what a centromere or telomere are? Do you know what bases are? Do you know what A,G,T,C stand for and what their importance is?

Do you know what Polymerases are? How about RNase?

No? Then shut the fvck up, becuase you're too stupid to form an educated opinion on the topic. It's obvious to anyone who paid attention in 6th grade science that you're a fvcking buffoon.

Go back to school, and try paying attention this time.

Here's marcro-evolution observed in the lab for you, but I'm afraid half those words are too big for you to comprehend.

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#100 cain006
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Ugh one time in church the pastor told a story like that except with a watch. So moronic and the people who are so against evolution usually don't know shit about it. They actually use the whole if we evolved from monkeys why are they still here argument. It's sad that they don't know that when they make that argument, they are just proving they don't know anything about what they're arguing against.