What's your opinion on Christmas?

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#102 Posted by LJS9502_basic (152937 posts) -

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Why? Christmas is an ancient festival having only recently corrupted by the christian church. The traditional pagan elements are still the best bits :)

tenaka2

I'd believe you if you said winter solstice....but Christmas...Christ's Mass....pagan....seriously.

Its well documented that the church moved jesus's birth date back to coincide with the pre-existing pagan festival, don't be disingenuous.

Wow just when I think OT can't get any more ignorant. Yes...they kept the day. But they are celebrating the birth of Jesus...not the winter solstice. I guess that is too hard a concept for you to grasp.
#103 Posted by TonyDanzaFan (2973 posts) -
[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I'd believe you if you said winter solstice....but Christmas...Christ's Mass....pagan....seriously.LJS9502_basic

Its well documented that the church moved jesus's birth date back to coincide with the pre-existing pagan festival, don't be disingenuous.

Wow just when I think OT can't get any more ignorant. Yes...they kept the day. But they are celebrating the birth of Jesus...not the winter solstice. I guess that is too hard a concept for you to grasp.

u ever buff a pickle?
#104 Posted by LJS9502_basic (152937 posts) -
[QUOTE="TonyDanzaFan"] u ever buff a pickle?

I really don't want to know what you do in private with vegetables dude....
#105 Posted by Philosopho (86 posts) -
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Wow just when I think OT can't get any more ignorant. Yes...they kept the day. But they are celebrating the birth of Jesus...not the winter solstice. I guess that is too hard a concept for you to grasp.

The bible was pretty explicit about not taking pagan holidays/customs and celebrating them as your own. If the biblical Jesus were here now,he'd be mad as hell about the whole thing. Christmas, as a whole, is a sin for Christians.
#106 Posted by LJS9502_basic (152937 posts) -
[QUOTE="Philosopho"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Wow just when I think OT can't get any more ignorant. Yes...they kept the day. But they are celebrating the birth of Jesus...not the winter solstice. I guess that is too hard a concept for you to grasp.

The bible was pretty explicit about not taking pagan holidays/customs and celebrating them as your own. If the biblical Jesus were here now,he'd be mad as hell about the whole thing. Christmas, as a whole, is a sin for Christians.

Explain how celebrating the birth of Jesus is celebrating pagan ideas. You're up....
#107 Posted by TonyDanzaFan (2973 posts) -
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="TonyDanzaFan"] u ever buff a pickle?

I really don't want to know what you do in private with vegetables dude....

don't project your anger about your burning desire to buff pickles onto me.
#108 Posted by LJS9502_basic (152937 posts) -
[QUOTE="TonyDanzaFan"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="TonyDanzaFan"] u ever buff a pickle?

I really don't want to know what you do in private with vegetables dude....

don't project your anger about your burning desire to buff pickles onto me.

LOL such stupidity....you're the one projecting.
#109 Posted by Philosopho (86 posts) -
Explain how celebrating the birth of Jesus is celebrating pagan ideas. You're up....LJS9502_basic
The winter solstice was most well loved for drinking, merriment, and gift giving. The Church just took that and slapped the made up birthdate of Jesus on it. They took a pagan holiday, and made it their own. That's explicitly forbidden in the bible.
#110 Posted by Philosopho (86 posts) -
I like pickles. :)
#111 Posted by LJS9502_basic (152937 posts) -
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Explain how celebrating the birth of Jesus is celebrating pagan ideas. You're up....Philosopho
The winter solstice was most well loved for drinking, merriment, and gift giving. The Church just took that and slapped the made up birthdate of Jesus on it. They took a pagan holiday, and made it their own. That's explicitly forbidden in the bible.

Wrong again junior. Do you know the religious aspect of Christmas? You go to Mass/service. Period.
#112 Posted by TonyDanzaFan (2973 posts) -
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="TonyDanzaFan"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I really don't want to know what you do in private with vegetables dude....

don't project your anger about your burning desire to buff pickles onto me.

LOL such stupidity....you're the one projecting.

dude its cool if you buff pickles. nobody here is going to think any differently of you. what we dont tolerate is liars! you need to come to terms with yourself and how many times you have buffed a pickle.
#113 Posted by LJS9502_basic (152937 posts) -

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="TonyDanzaFan"] don't project your anger about your burning desire to buff pickles onto me. TonyDanzaFan
LOL such stupidity....you're the one projecting.

dude its cool if you buff pickles. nobody here is going to think any differently of you. what we dont tolerate is liars! you need to come to terms with yourself and how many times you have buffed a pickle.

You're the only one in thinking of pickles in a sexual nature and yet....you're too stupid to notice that.

It's also rather odd that you're concerned with my sexual habits. Fantasy much?

#114 Posted by tenaka2 (17040 posts) -

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I'd believe you if you said winter solstice....but Christmas...Christ's Mass....pagan....seriously.LJS9502_basic

Its well documented that the church moved jesus's birth date back to coincide with the pre-existing pagan festival, don't be disingenuous.

Wow just when I think OT can't get any more ignorant. Yes...they kept the day. But they are celebrating the birth of Jesus...not the winter solstice. I guess that is too hard a concept for you to grasp.

I never suggested that christians are celebrating the winter solstice, all I said was that the church moved jesus's birth date to coincide with the old Pagan festival.

It doesn't matter, with christmas as with easter we have all the best pagan bits included and christians can go to church on that day to if they like.

#115 Posted by LJS9502_basic (152937 posts) -

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Its well documented that the church moved jesus's birth date back to coincide with the pre-existing pagan festival, don't be disingenuous.

tenaka2

Wow just when I think OT can't get any more ignorant. Yes...they kept the day. But they are celebrating the birth of Jesus...not the winter solstice. I guess that is too hard a concept for you to grasp.

I never suggested that christians are celebrating the winter solstice, all I said was that the church moved jesus's birth date to coincide with the old Pagan festival.

It doesn't matter, with christmas as with easter we have all the best pagan bits included and christians can go to church on that day to if they like.

Does it matter what the date is if the reason is different? After all we don't celebrate a date but an event. Except for New Year's of course.

#116 Posted by Matthew-first (3012 posts) -

I love the spirits... Dogswithguns


Meh loves Shpiritzz too... !!!
http://menel.blox.pl/resource/menel_strzegom.jpg
(SPIRITUS means Alcohol in my language XD)



Overall... yea christmas is fine... untill I'm bombarded with commercials and stuff... BUY BUY BUY!
I say Fk off Fk Off FK OFF!! XD

#117 Posted by Philosopho (86 posts) -
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Wrong again junior. Do you know the religious aspect of Christmas? You go to Mass/service. Period.

My favorite Star Trek captain is Captain Picard.
#118 Posted by TonyDanzaFan (2973 posts) -

[QUOTE="TonyDanzaFan"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] LOL such stupidity....you're the one projecting. LJS9502_basic

dude its cool if you buff pickles. nobody here is going to think any differently of you. what we dont tolerate is liars! you need to come to terms with yourself and how many times you have buffed a pickle.

You're the only one in thinking of pickles in a sexual nature and yet....you're too stupid to notice that.

It's also rather odd that you're concerned with my sexual habits. Fantasy much?

whatever dude. do whatever the fudge u want. just remember that u have a family who loves you and doesnt want to see you go down that path where youre addicted to heroin and need to buff a pickle to score your next balloon.
#119 Posted by tenaka2 (17040 posts) -

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Wow just when I think OT can't get any more ignorant. Yes...they kept the day. But they are celebrating the birth of Jesus...not the winter solstice. I guess that is too hard a concept for you to grasp.LJS9502_basic

I never suggested that christians are celebrating the winter solstice, all I said was that the church moved jesus's birth date to coincide with the old Pagan festival.

It doesn't matter, with christmas as with easter we have all the best pagan bits included and christians can go to church on that day to if they like.

Does it matter what the date is if the reason is different? After all we don't celebrate a date but an event. Except for New Year's of course.

I never said it mattered, infact I said that the churches corruption of the festival has resulted in the best of both.

#120 Posted by undergroundLPx (645 posts) -

My favorite holiday and it truly is the most wonderful time of the year.

#121 Posted by LJS9502_basic (152937 posts) -

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

I never suggested that christians are celebrating the winter solstice, all I said was that the church moved jesus's birth date to coincide with the old Pagan festival.

It doesn't matter, with christmas as with easter we have all the best pagan bits included and christians can go to church on that day to if they like.

tenaka2

Does it matter what the date is if the reason is different? After all we don't celebrate a date but an event. Except for New Year's of course.

I never said it mattered, infact I said that the churches corruption of the festival has resulted in the best of both.

I don't think churches are interested in the secular activities. They know they happen.....but that isn't what they're pushing.
#122 Posted by LJS9502_basic (152937 posts) -
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="TonyDanzaFan"] dude its cool if you buff pickles. nobody here is going to think any differently of you. what we dont tolerate is liars! you need to come to terms with yourself and how many times you have buffed a pickle.TonyDanzaFan

You're the only one in thinking of pickles in a sexual nature and yet....you're too stupid to notice that.

It's also rather odd that you're concerned with my sexual habits. Fantasy much?

whatever dude. do whatever the fudge u want. just remember that u have a family who loves you and doesnt want to see you go down that path where youre addicted to heroin and need to buff a pickle to score your next balloon.

Stop fantasizing that I'm anything like you dude. Get a new hobby. I'm not you're hobby. Damn the internet introduces us to weirdos and freaks. Yuck. Whatever you're ideas are about me....I'd rather not know about them. It can be your little secret that you have sexual thoughts about me.
#123 Posted by hoola (6422 posts) -

I think it makes a heck of a lot more sense to buy people a bunch of junk for Thanksgiving than for Christmas.

#124 Posted by TonyDanzaFan (2973 posts) -
[QUOTE="TonyDanzaFan"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] You're the only one in thinking of pickles in a sexual nature and yet....you're too stupid to notice that.

It's also rather odd that you're concerned with my sexual habits. Fantasy much?

LJS9502_basic
whatever dude. do whatever the fudge u want. just remember that u have a family who loves you and doesnt want to see you go down that path where youre addicted to heroin and need to buff a pickle to score your next balloon.

Stop fantasizing that I'm anything like you dude. Get a new hobby. I'm not you're hobby. Damn the internet introduces us to weirdos and freaks. Yuck. Whatever you're ideas are about me....I'd rather not know about them. It can be your little secret that you have sexual thoughts about me.

Even the bootiful Kendall Jenner knows how to buff a pickle. Don't you want to be mentioned in the same breath as her? Hey dude, I heard LJS is an assman. You know why? Because that guys an ass, man!
#125 Posted by MannyDelgado (1187 posts) -
Obligatory gift-giving is not a very meaningful act
#126 Posted by Celldrax (14838 posts) -

Christmas lunch and dinner.....so lots of awesome food (also another excuse to get drunk). And of course presents and gift giving. That's always summed up christmas for me. And yeah, it may be a pretty materialistic holiday, but it's always a good chance for family and relatives to get together. I just wish people would drop the whole war on christmas BS. The holiday means different things for different people, and nothing's going to change that.

#127 Posted by TonyDanzaFan (2973 posts) -
I hate the family side of christmas. I just want to spend it with those closest to me. I don't want to fake being jolly to people i want to murder. There is a reason why I don't see you 364 other days out of the year. Eat dirt, BITTTTCH!!!!!! PILEDRIVER INTO A PUMPKIN PIE!!!!!!!
#128 Posted by br0kenrabbit (13589 posts) -

Does it matter what the date is if the reason is different?LJS9502_basic

Doesn't bother me what they're celebrating, but it does bother me when they go off that their reason is the only reason for the season, when in truth Christmas is a clusterfvck of various Christian and non-Christian traditions.

#129 Posted by LJS9502_basic (152937 posts) -

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Does it matter what the date is if the reason is different?br0kenrabbit

Doesn't bother me what they're celebrating, but it does bother me when they go off that their reason is the only reason for the season, when in truth Christmas is a clusterfvck of various Christian and non-Christian traditions.

However, let's be honest. Paganism died out. Sure some people today might revive it....but society in general isn't celebrating paganism.
#130 Posted by br0kenrabbit (13589 posts) -

However, let's be honest. Paganism died out. Sure some people today might revive it....but society in general isn't celebrating paganism.LJS9502_basic

Traditions can live beyond their originating cultures. Just look at Easter (Celebrating the fertility goddess Eostre, you know: eggs, rabbits and other stuff that have to do with fertility and nothing about Resurrection) or even Halloween.

Many protestant Christians even once banned Christmas in the US.

What most people think of Christmas, as we celebrate it today, is a 20th century thing. Hell, Coca-Cola gave us our image of Santa.

#131 Posted by LJS9502_basic (152937 posts) -

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]However, let's be honest. Paganism died out. Sure some people today might revive it....but society in general isn't celebrating paganism.br0kenrabbit

Traditions can live beyond their originating cultures. Just look at Easter (Celebrating the fertility goddess Eostre, you know: eggs, rabbits and other stuff that have to do with fertility and nothing about Resurrection) or even Halloween.

Many protestant Christians even once banned Christmas in the US.

What most people think of Christmas, as we celebrate it today, is a 20th century thing. Hell, Coca-Cola gave us our image of Santa.

Christmas is kind of like two different holidays in one.....same with Easter though I don't think it's technically a holiday.
#132 Posted by coolbeans90 (21305 posts) -

Traditions can live beyond their originating cultures.

br0kenrabbit

I, for one, am a fan of stealing cool traditions.

Like putting a tree in my house.

#133 Posted by br0kenrabbit (13589 posts) -

Christmas is kind of like two different holidays in one.....same with Easter though I don't think it's technically a holiday.LJS9502_basic

And I wouldn't disagree, but tell that to some of the Southern Baptists in these parts and cover your ears.:?

These are the type of people who would shout, while holding a Bible aloft: "If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it's good enough for America!"

#134 Posted by dagreenfish (1817 posts) -
I like it just fine, except when overly sensitive idiots get pissed about "merry Christmas" or "happy holidays." I don't care which you prefer or why, it's childish to get bent out of shape about how people wish you well.
#135 Posted by Rickettsia (213 posts) -
Well in the adult point of view, i dont care about presents i can get everything i want by myself. I dont like christmast too much because i hate cold weather and i live in tropical country and for me its still cold. Iam allergic and my nose get stuffed by the cold Awwwww :/. Oh and buy clothes in christmas is diack the trend is so not pretty all is red, gold white, black and plumb with shining fabrics. The only thing good is for buying make up :/
#136 Posted by Matthew-first (3012 posts) -

Well in the adult point of view, i dont care about presents i can get everything i want by myself. I dont like christmast too much because i hate cold weather and i live in tropical country and for me its still cold. Iam allergic and my nose get stuffed by the cold Awwwww :/. Oh and buy clothes in christmas is diack the trend is so not pretty all is red, gold white, black and plumb with shining fabrics. The only thing good is for buying make up :/Rickettsia


You wouldn't survive in my climate. ^^ I love when its real cold here... like -30'C :D
It's good for health either way... and I don't wear any hats... just a hood when its windy :P
I don't put anywood in my fireplace untill it gets below 0'C ... I feel no need... since I don't like 20'C temp. in my house.
10-15 is aight...

I'm a cold bastard. XD

#137 Posted by Rickettsia (213 posts) -

[QUOTE="Rickettsia"]Well in the adult point of view, i dont care about presents i can get everything i want by myself. I dont like christmast too much because i hate cold weather and i live in tropical country and for me its still cold. Iam allergic and my nose get stuffed by the cold Awwwww :/. Oh and buy clothes in christmas is diack the trend is so not pretty all is red, gold white, black and plumb with shining fabrics. The only thing good is for buying make up :/Matthew-first



You wouldn't survive in my climate. ^^ I love when its real cold here... like -30'C :D
It's good for health either way... and I don't wear any hats... just a hood when its windy :P
I don't put anywood in my fireplace untill it gets below 0'C ... I feel no need... since I don't like 20'C temp. in my house.
10-15 is aight...

I'm a cold bastard. XD

Damn,on celcius, are you from europe or russia? do electrical devices work better on those climates? Dont your nose, ears and fingers fall by frost bites? Christmas is dangerous because of the winter.
#138 Posted by Rougehunter (5873 posts) -

The only three things about Christmas I dislike are: 1. Christians claim it to be "their holiday" despite aside from the date being falsely attributed as Jesus' birth, it is entirely pagan in origin and features nothing about the Christian moral code in it's celebration. It celebrates excesses in harvest and wealth, worship of trees, and features gorging on food and liquor and reveling in hedonistic behavior. 2. The commercialization of a family holiday. Purchased gifts are advertised as mandatory, and we are engrained to believe that the more we give of a company's products, the better we should feel. I have no problems with gift giving... but it should be a thoughtful gift, not a bunch of gift cards. 3. Xmas music. :evil:Zeviander
This sums it up for me. Great holiday besides those things

#139 Posted by coolkid93 (6717 posts) -
I like the presents and I like when my family gets together as well. The decorations, that warm feeling, and that smell... oh that smell of sweet potato pie! And the other food as well of course.:D
#140 Posted by GrindingAxe (1641 posts) -
it was invented for commercial use only. If the people use it for family gatherings and getting closer, thats fine. But just like Halloween or Thanksgiving...it exists solely for the purpose of selling stuff. I buy into it, just like everyone else, but don't think for a second I don't see the real purpose. It helps with job creation so I'm not sour about any of it.
#141 Posted by WiiCubeM1 (4730 posts) -

Great Food

Great Family

Great time of the year.

Plus free stuff.

#142 Posted by Crushmaster (4324 posts) -


I love it. It is indeed the most wonderful time of the year. Family, friends, food, gifts, and, most importantly, remembering the birth of Christ, the Savior. What's not to like?
God bless,
Crushmaster.

#143 Posted by gamerguru100 (11642 posts) -

Presents.

That is all.

#144 Posted by indzman (20187 posts) -

Fruit Cakes, Parties, Booze comes to mind

#145 Posted by sukraj (24202 posts) -

I love xmas as much as i did when i we're a kid and i love watching my kids open up there presents at christmas it really makes my day and i also love spending time with my family and i've got some presents to open too and i love watching xmas movies with the wife and kids it gives me a warm feeling inside my tummy.

#146 Posted by cfstar (1979 posts) -
I enjoy the fact that it helps me reunite with my family(I live away from them), and I like the gifts too, but I don't like it's commercialization.
#147 Posted by cfstar (1979 posts) -

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

I agree it's sad how people use the excuse of lets have this day be special to be nice and caring to people/family. That should be almost an everyday thing, not a ******* holiday once a year.

Also **** mom and dads who brain wash their kids about santa, that is just sick.

Ballroompirate

You got a lot of coal as a kid didn't you?

No, common sense kicked in at an early age. How does santa get in a house without a chimney???

:p

#148 Posted by Angie7F (1175 posts) -

No one around me seems to enjoy Xmas.

My mom hates it because it reminds her of when she didnt have enough money and felt lonely and left out when seeing the rest of the world happy.

My bf hates it because that was when his dad passed away when he was a teenager.

I dislike it because it just creates crowds and you get dragged into parties and get together but I am an introvert and hate gatherings.

On the other hand though it is good for the business so I always spend Xmas working and raking in the sales.

#149 Posted by WiiCubeM1 (4730 posts) -

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

I agree it's sad how people use the excuse of lets have this day be special to be nice and caring to people/family. That should be almost an everyday thing, not a ******* holiday once a year.

Also **** mom and dads who brain wash their kids about santa, that is just sick.

Ballroompirate

You got a lot of coal as a kid didn't you?

No, common sense kicked in at an early age. How does santa get in a house without a chimney???

I would hate to be your kid.l

#150 Posted by WiiCubeM1 (4730 posts) -

No one around me seems to enjoy Xmas.

My mom hates it because it reminds her of when she didnt have enough money and felt lonely and left out when seeing the rest of the world happy.

My bf hates it because that was when his dad passed away when he was a teenager.

I dislike it because it just creates crowds and you get dragged into parties and get together but I am an introvert and hate gatherings.

On the other hand though it is good for the business so I always spend Xmas working and raking in the sales.

Angie7F

Go to the store, buy a sh*t ton of Christmas Candy, and watch movies after work.

You get to be alone and still enjoy the holidays.