What's your opinion on Christmas?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Why? Christmas is an ancient festival having only recently corrupted by the christian church. The traditional pagan elements are still the best bits :)

tenaka2

Its well documented that the church moved jesus's birth date back to coincide with the pre-existing pagan festival, don't be disingenuous.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I'd believe you if you said winter solstice....but Christmas...Christ's Mass....pagan....seriously.LJS9502_basic

Its well documented that the church moved jesus's birth date back to coincide with the pre-existing pagan festival, don't be disingenuous.

Explain how celebrating the birth of Jesus is celebrating pagan ideas. You're up....LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Explain how celebrating the birth of Jesus is celebrating pagan ideas. You're up....Philosopho

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="TonyDanzaFan"] don't project your anger about your burning desire to buff pickles onto me. TonyDanzaFan

It's also rather odd that you're concerned with my sexual habits. Fantasy much?

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I'd believe you if you said winter solstice....but Christmas...Christ's Mass....pagan....seriously.LJS9502_basic

Its well documented that the church moved jesus's birth date back to coincide with the pre-existing pagan festival, don't be disingenuous.

I never suggested that christians are celebrating the winter solstice, all I said was that the church moved jesus's birth date to coincide with the old Pagan festival.

It doesn't matter, with christmas as with easter we have all the best pagan bits included and christians can go to church on that day to if they like.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Its well documented that the church moved jesus's birth date back to coincide with the pre-existing pagan festival, don't be disingenuous.

tenaka2

I never suggested that christians are celebrating the winter solstice, all I said was that the church moved jesus's birth date to coincide with the old Pagan festival.

It doesn't matter, with christmas as with easter we have all the best pagan bits included and christians can go to church on that day to if they like.

I love the spirits... Dogswithguns

[QUOTE="TonyDanzaFan"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] LOL such stupidity....you're the one projecting. LJS9502_basic

It's also rather odd that you're concerned with my sexual habits. Fantasy much?

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Wow just when I think OT can't get any more ignorant. Yes...they kept the day. But they are celebrating the birth of Jesus...not the winter solstice. I guess that is too hard a concept for you to grasp.LJS9502_basic

I never suggested that christians are celebrating the winter solstice, all I said was that the church moved jesus's birth date to coincide with the old Pagan festival.

It doesn't matter, with christmas as with easter we have all the best pagan bits included and christians can go to church on that day to if they like.

I never said it mattered, infact I said that the churches corruption of the festival has resulted in the best of both.

My favorite holiday and it truly is the most wonderful time of the year.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

I never suggested that christians are celebrating the winter solstice, all I said was that the church moved jesus's birth date to coincide with the old Pagan festival.

It doesn't matter, with christmas as with easter we have all the best pagan bits included and christians can go to church on that day to if they like.

tenaka2

I never said it mattered, infact I said that the churches corruption of the festival has resulted in the best of both.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="TonyDanzaFan"] dude its cool if you buff pickles. nobody here is going to think any differently of you. what we dont tolerate is liars! you need to come to terms with yourself and how many times you have buffed a pickle.TonyDanzaFan

It's also rather odd that you're concerned with my sexual habits. Fantasy much?

I think it makes a heck of a lot more sense to buy people a bunch of junk for Thanksgiving than for Christmas.

[QUOTE="TonyDanzaFan"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] You're the only one in thinking of pickles in a sexual nature and yet....you're too stupid to notice that.

It's also rather odd that you're concerned with my sexual habits. Fantasy much?

LJS9502_basic

Christmas lunch and dinner.....so lots of awesome food (also another excuse to get drunk). And of course presents and gift giving. That's always summed up christmas for me. And yeah, it may be a pretty materialistic holiday, but it's always a good chance for family and relatives to get together. I just wish people would drop the whole war on christmas BS. The holiday means different things for different people, and nothing's going to change that.

Does it matter what the date is if the reason is different?LJS9502_basic

Doesn't bother me what they're celebrating, but it does bother me when they go off that their reason is the only reason for the season, when in truth Christmas is a clusterfvck of various Christian and non-Christian traditions.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Does it matter what the date is if the reason is different?br0kenrabbit

Doesn't bother me what they're celebrating, but it does bother me when they go off that their reason is the only reason for the season, when in truth Christmas is a clusterfvck of various Christian and non-Christian traditions.

However, let's be honest. Paganism died out. Sure some people today might revive it....but society in general isn't celebrating paganism.LJS9502_basic

Traditions can live beyond their originating cultures. Just look at Easter (Celebrating the fertility goddess Eostre, you know: eggs, rabbits and other stuff that have to do with fertility and nothing about Resurrection) or even Halloween.

Many protestant Christians even once banned Christmas in the US.

What most people think of Christmas, as we celebrate it today, is a 20th century thing. Hell, Coca-Cola gave us our image of Santa.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]However, let's be honest. Paganism died out. Sure some people today might revive it....but society in general isn't celebrating paganism.br0kenrabbit

Traditions can live beyond their originating cultures. Just look at Easter (Celebrating the fertility goddess Eostre, you know: eggs, rabbits and other stuff that have to do with fertility and nothing about Resurrection) or even Halloween.

Many protestant Christians even once banned Christmas in the US.

What most people think of Christmas, as we celebrate it today, is a 20th century thing. Hell, Coca-Cola gave us our image of Santa.

Traditions can live beyond their originating cultures.

br0kenrabbit

I, for one, am a fan of stealing cool traditions.

Like putting a tree in my house.

Christmas is kind of like two different holidays in one.....same with Easter though I don't think it's technically a holiday.LJS9502_basic

And I wouldn't disagree, but tell that to some of the Southern Baptists in these parts and cover your ears.:?

These are the type of people who would shout, while holding a Bible aloft: "If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it's good enough for America!"

Well in the adult point of view, i dont care about presents i can get everything i want by myself. I dont like christmast too much because i hate cold weather and i live in tropical country and for me its still cold. Iam allergic and my nose get stuffed by the cold Awwwww :/. Oh and buy clothes in christmas is diack the trend is so not pretty all is red, gold white, black and plumb with shining fabrics. The only thing good is for buying make up :/Rickettsia

I'm a cold bastard. XD

[QUOTE="Rickettsia"]Well in the adult point of view, i dont care about presents i can get everything i want by myself. I dont like christmast too much because i hate cold weather and i live in tropical country and for me its still cold. Iam allergic and my nose get stuffed by the cold Awwwww :/. Oh and buy clothes in christmas is diack the trend is so not pretty all is red, gold white, black and plumb with shining fabrics. The only thing good is for buying make up :/Matthew-first

I'm a cold bastard. XD

The only three things about Christmas I dislike are: 1. Christians claim it to be "their holiday" despite aside from the date being falsely attributed as Jesus' birth, it is entirely pagan in origin and features nothing about the Christian moral code in it's celebration. It celebrates excesses in harvest and wealth, worship of trees, and features gorging on food and liquor and reveling in hedonistic behavior. 2. The commercialization of a family holiday. Purchased gifts are advertised as mandatory, and we are engrained to believe that the more we give of a company's products, the better we should feel. I have no problems with gift giving... but it should be a thoughtful gift, not a bunch of gift cards. 3. Xmas music. :evil:Zeviander

Great Food

Great Family

Great time of the year.

Plus free stuff.

I love it. It is indeed the most wonderful time of the year. Family, friends, food, gifts, and, most importantly, remembering the birth of Christ, the Savior. What's not to like?
God bless,
Crushmaster.

Presents.

That is all.

Fruit Cakes, Parties, Booze comes to mind

I love xmas as much as i did when i we're a kid and i love watching my kids open up there presents at christmas it really makes my day and i also love spending time with my family and i've got some presents to open too and i love watching xmas movies with the wife and kids it gives me a warm feeling inside my tummy.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

I agree it's sad how people use the excuse of lets have this day be special to be nice and caring to people/family. That should be almost an everyday thing, not a ******* holiday once a year.

Also **** mom and dads who brain wash their kids about santa, that is just sick.

Ballroompirate

No, common sense kicked in at an early age. How does santa get in a house without a chimney???

:p

No one around me seems to enjoy Xmas.

My mom hates it because it reminds her of when she didnt have enough money and felt lonely and left out when seeing the rest of the world happy.

My bf hates it because that was when his dad passed away when he was a teenager.

I dislike it because it just creates crowds and you get dragged into parties and get together but I am an introvert and hate gatherings.

On the other hand though it is good for the business so I always spend Xmas working and raking in the sales.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

I agree it's sad how people use the excuse of lets have this day be special to be nice and caring to people/family. That should be almost an everyday thing, not a ******* holiday once a year.

Also **** mom and dads who brain wash their kids about santa, that is just sick.

Ballroompirate

No, common sense kicked in at an early age. How does santa get in a house without a chimney???

I would hate to be your kid.l

No one around me seems to enjoy Xmas.

My mom hates it because it reminds her of when she didnt have enough money and felt lonely and left out when seeing the rest of the world happy.

My bf hates it because that was when his dad passed away when he was a teenager.

I dislike it because it just creates crowds and you get dragged into parties and get together but I am an introvert and hate gatherings.

On the other hand though it is good for the business so I always spend Xmas working and raking in the sales.

Angie7F

Go to the store, buy a sh*t ton of Christmas Candy, and watch movies after work.

You get to be alone and still enjoy the holidays.