Whats with hatred towards mormons, muslims, and other non-christian religions?

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#151 Ilovegames1992
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] She became an adult, and looked extremely favorably on it. :|Victorious_Fize
That's not a good point as I said prior. I'm not getting in the mix of bashing religion....but dude....some things aren't right.

I know. If Aisha screamed in the tops of her lung in any part of her lifesaying she was violated, I would not be a Muslim. The fact remains, she did not, and she in fact played an extremely vital role in Islam.

How the hell would you know if she did or not?

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#152 Victorious_Fize
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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

I do see people doing so and then you defend them by not even addressing the issue. "Oh, she had a long life".

Ilovegames1992

"and in that long life, she loved every minute of her life with the prophet"

gross

What disgusting thoughts you are sure of or not, keep them to yourself.
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#153 branketra
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People are strange like that.
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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] That's not a good point as I said prior. I'm not getting in the mix of bashing religion....but dude....some things aren't right.Frame_Dragger
I know. If Aisha screamed in the tops of her lung in any part of her life saying she was violated, I would not be a Muslim. The fact remains, she did not, and she in fact played an extremely vital role in Islam.

If she had done that, she would probably have been killed and your mythology would just be slightly altered.

We can clearly see how threatened she felt when she lead Muslims in battle and narrated hadiths for the sahabah. Oh and don't forget the teaching of Muslim women!
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#155 Frame_Dragger
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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] "and in that long life, she loved every minute of her life with the prophet"

gross

What disgusting thoughts you are sure of or not, keep them to yourself.

Wait... you and MAZ go off on how it's OK to f*ck kids, and you're worried that others might have disgusting thoughts?! Wow.
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From what I'm gathering from this thread.

It not cool today nor was it ever cool

But since it centers around the islamic religion it, it was cool centuries ago.

Irrefutable logic

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#157 Victorious_Fize
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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

gross

Frame_Dragger

What disgusting thoughts you are sure of or not, keep them to yourself.

Wait... you and MAZ go off on how it's OK to f*ck kids, and you're worried that others might have disgusting thoughts?! Wow.

We are talking about Aisha. :| It's rude to write stuff like that for sacred figures.

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[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] I know. If Aisha screamed in the tops of her lung in any part of her life saying she was violated, I would not be a Muslim. The fact remains, she did not, and she in fact played an extremely vital role in Islam.Victorious_Fize
If she had done that, she would probably have been killed and your mythology would just be slightly altered.

We can clearly see how threatened she felt when she lead Muslims in battle and narrated hadiths for the sahabah. Oh and don't forget the teaching of Muslim women!

So... Muhammed f*cked the light and truth into her? Yech. Seriously though, learn a little about the aftermath of sexual abuse over a lifetime before you do this... it's pathetic and sad to see people go to this length to defend a despicable practice. Warren Jeffs in the 8th century... lovely... :(
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They're all equally worthless to me, religion is a disease - common sense is the cure.

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guys , i came back from bed to say : why is it that we muslim never in 1400 years insulted any prophet of any nation , but people seem to keep insulting our prophet ? it's not like we insulted your prophets first , we respect all prophets and we know that evey prophet is better placed than us normal humans .
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[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] What disgusting thoughts you are sure of or not, keep them to yourself.Victorious_Fize

Wait... you and MAZ go off on how it's OK to f*ck kids, and you're worried that others might have disgusting thoughts?! Wow.

We are talking about Aisha. :| It's rude to write stuff like that for sacred figures.

I'd rather be rude about a sacred figure than f*ck a minor.

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[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"] So... Muhammed f*cked the light and truth into her? Yech. Seriously though, learn a little about the aftermath of sexual abuse over a lifetime before you do this... it's pathetic and sad to see people go to this length to defend a despicable practice. Warren Jeffs in the 8th century... lovely... :(

Wow. I'm speechless.
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[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] What disgusting thoughts you are sure of or not, keep them to yourself.Victorious_Fize

Wait... you and MAZ go off on how it's OK to f*ck kids, and you're worried that others might have disgusting thoughts?! Wow.

We are talking about Aisha. :| It's rude to write stuff like that for sacred figures.

Oh sorry, it's SACRED kiddie f*cking, my bad! I forget that in a religious context, you can literally screw a 6-9 year old and it's god's will, and therefore OK. I have to say, this conversation with people I thought were relatively functional from the neck up is making me worry for young girls in the context of Islam. Aisha... well... who knows what her life was really like? Maybe she made the best of a horrible situation, or maybe she was like many who are abused, and begin to identify with their abusers.

Maybe she did scream, and after a while realized that nobody would help and learned to cope. I don't know... what I DO know is that you and MAZ claiming that if a girl hits puberty at 9... TODAY... in 2011... having sex with her is not pedophilic. THAT. IS. SICK.
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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Which has nothing to do WRT to consent nor does it address the moral integrity of f***ing a kid.

coolbeans90

So you're just talking about the morality of child marriage, and not what Aisha feels about it and her experience with it?

The morality of f***ing children - yeah. For the actions of someone who allegedly is the intermediary between man and God, that's some interesting behavior. People in retrospect can convince themselves some fairly grotesque stuff is good. And words are of limited verifiability. And of course there's that whole consent thing, which kids have a rather limited ability to do considering that mental development isn't exactly complete at the age of 9.

She aged and still never thought it was bad, just like when she was before. :| You're confusing intertwining two issues here. One is general, and the other is special.
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#166 coolbeans90
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guys , i came back from bed to say : why is it that we muslim never in 1400 years insulted any prophet of any nation , but people seem to keep insulting our prophet ? it's not like we insulted your prophets first , we respect all prophets and we know that evey prophet is better placed than us normal humans .MAZ85

I don't deliberately go out of my way to do so.

If you guys had attempted to interpret (as I have seen done before) this as a pre-arranged marriage which wouldn't be acted upon until adulthood, I'd be cool with it for the most part. But I'm seeing people attempt to justify kiddie stuff.

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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] So you're just talking about the morality of child marriage, and not what Aisha feels about it and her experience with it?Victorious_Fize

The morality of f***ing children - yeah. For the actions of someone who allegedly is the intermediary between man and God, that's some interesting behavior. People in retrospect can convince themselves some fairly grotesque stuff is good. And words are of limited verifiability. And of course there's that whole consent thing, which kids have a rather limited ability to do considering that mental development isn't exactly complete at the age of 9.

She aged and still never thought it was bad, just like when she was before. :| You're confusing intertwining two issues here. One is general, and the other is special.

The point is that she can age and not exactly ever consider it wrong. See: child abuse victims. That hardly grants consent nor justifies it.

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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"] If she had done that, she would probably have been killed and your mythology would just be slightly altered.Frame_Dragger
We can clearly see how threatened she felt when she lead Muslims in battle and narrated hadiths for the sahabah. Oh and don't forget the teaching of Muslim women!

So... Muhammed f*cked the light and truth into her? Yech. Seriously though, learn a little about the aftermath of sexual abuse over a lifetime before you do this... it's pathetic and sad to see people go to this length to defend a despicable practice. Warren Jeffs in the 8th century... lovely... :(

and you want me to converse with you people... "SHE WAS YOUNG" "She was consent in all of her lifetime, and was proud of it, actually." "HE ENLIGHTENED HER WITH SEX!"
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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] She aged and still never thought it was bad, just like when she was before. :| You're confusing intertwining two issues here. One is general, and the other is special.Victorious_Fize

You and MAZ expanded on the "special" case, and used it to justify sex with VERY young children because of onset of puberty. That is the GENERAL case.
[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"] So... Muhammed f*cked the light and truth into her? Yech. Seriously though, learn a little about the aftermath of sexual abuse over a lifetime before you do this... it's pathetic and sad to see people go to this length to defend a despicable practice. Warren Jeffs in the 8th century... lovely... :(BranKetra
Wow. I'm speechless.

I can't imagine that'll last...

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Tradition and cultures change. The marriage age back in the time in question was roughly age 12 for females and 17 for males. Which was considered normal....though today we would definitely consider 12 as way too young.
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guys that's really a lot , you've really surpassed that danish caricaturist in terms of insulting our prophet , I can't tolerate that , if you don't respect our prophet at least show some respect to our believes , how on earth do you respect people who worship cows and flying spaghetti alien monsters and still keep bashing out prophet ? i mean what the hell ? shame on you !!! after all this you as why bin laden ( and now i say peace be upon him - he was a muslim after all ) blew up your buildings ? ask yourselves people !!! if you said this stuff in front of me and even thought i'm cold blooded i'd remove your eyeballs and eat them for dinner or put them in a freaking jar or some **** , man i'm tired and you really don't know how to lead a respectful conversation , stop just stop

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Tradition and cultures change. The marriage age back in the time in question was roughly age 12 for females and 17 for males. Which was considered normal....though today we would definitely consider 12 as way too young. LJS9502_basic

That doesn't make it right.

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Tradition and cultures change. The marriage age back in the time in question was roughly age 12 for females and 17 for males. Which was considered normal....though today we would definitely consider 12 as way too young. LJS9502_basic

6-9 years-old is a far cry from 12.

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[QUOTE="MAZ85"]

guys that's really a lot , you've really surpassed that danish caricaturist in terms of insulting our prophet , I can't tolerate that , if you don't respect our prophet at least show some respect to our believes , how on earth do you respect people who worship cows and flying spaghetti alien monsters and still keep bashing out prophet ? i mean what the hell ? shame on you !!! after all this you as why bin laden ( and now i say peace be upon him - he was a muslim after all ) blew up your buildings ? ask yourselves people !!! if you said this stuff in front of me and even thought i'm cold blooded i'd remove your eyeballs and eat them for dinner or put them in a freaking jar or some **** , man i'm tired and you really don't know how to lead a respectful conversation , stop just stop

[/QUOTE ] why is it that we muslim never in 1400 years insulted any prophet of any nation , but people seem to keep insulting our prophet ? it's not like we insulted your prophets first , we respect all prophets and we know that evey prophet is better placed than us normal humans .
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guys that's really a lot , you've really surpassed that danish caricaturist in terms of insulting our prophet , I can't tolerate that , if you don't respect our prophet at least show some respect to our believes , how on earth do you respect people who worship cows and flying spaghetti alien monsters and still keep bashing out prophet ? i mean what the hell ? shame on you !!! after all this you as why bin laden ( and now i say peace be upon him - he was a muslim after all ) blew up your buildings ? ask yourselves people !!! if you said this stuff in front of me and even thought i'm cold blooded i'd remove your eyeballs and eat them for dinner or put them in a freaking jar or some **** , man i'm tired and you really don't know how to lead a respectful conversation , stop just stop

MAZ85

Why is stating that he had sex with a minor insulting him?

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[QUOTE="MAZ85"]

guys that's really a lot , you've really surpassed that danish caricaturist in terms of insulting our prophet , I can't tolerate that , if you don't respect our prophet at least show some respect to our believes , how on earth do you respect people who worship cows and flying spaghetti alien monsters and still keep bashing out prophet ? i mean what the hell ? shame on you !!! after all this you as why bin laden ( and now i say peace be upon him - he was a muslim after all ) blew up your buildings ? ask yourselves people !!! if you said this stuff in front of me and even thought i'm cold blooded i'd remove your eyeballs and eat them for dinner or put them in a freaking jar or some **** , man i'm tired and you really don't know how to lead a respectful conversation , stop just stop

[/QUOTE ] why is it that we muslim never in 1400 years insulted any prophet of any nation , but people seem to keep insulting our prophet ? it's not like we insulted your prophets first , we respect all prophets and we know that evey prophet is better placed than us normal humans .MAZ85

Lol

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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

The morality of f***ing children - yeah. For the actions of someone who allegedly is the intermediary between man and God, that's some interesting behavior. People in retrospect can convince themselves some fairly grotesque stuff is good. And words are of limited verifiability. And of course there's that whole consent thing, which kids have a rather limited ability to do considering that mental development isn't exactly complete at the age of 9.

coolbeans90

She aged and still never thought it was bad, just like when she was before. :| You're confusing intertwining two issues here. One is general, and the other is special.

The point is that she can age and not exactly ever consider it wrong. See: child abuse victims. That hardly grants consent nor justifies it.

Ok then, onto child abuse victims. If the child is still young and think it was good, we say it's wrong. But when someone reaches his effin 30's with a collected mind and sane brain (I assume you'll say she's a psychopath now) and still think it was good, I will not think I am in the position of telling her what that special event in her life to be (of good or bad).

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[QUOTE="ultrapc"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]So Sun saying the dude's religion was a lie was a compliment?

LJS9502_basic

It doesn't have to be a compliment to be a debate , he presented a point and challenged me to debunk it , i did . calling his religion a lie was my own opinion and i don't see it as an insult .

Nah he presented his opinion. Not a point., But then I don't expect much of him....he only debates the weak.

AND I am gutless.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Tradition and cultures change. The marriage age back in the time in question was roughly age 12 for females and 17 for males. Which was considered normal....though today we would definitely consider 12 as way too young. Ilovegames1992

That doesn't make it right.

Right and wrong are subjective though. It doesn't make it right to you, me, or modern society...but back then people didn't live as long as they do now so they procreated much younger. Survival of the species is still the driving force in animals...and humans are animals.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Tradition and cultures change. The marriage age back in the time in question was roughly age 12 for females and 17 for males. Which was considered normal....though today we would definitely consider 12 as way too young. coolbeans90

6-9 years-old is a far cry from 12.

I never said otherwise....I already told VF it was a bit young even for then. On the other hand....had she been 12 or 13 I do think the comments would be the same.
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[QUOTE="MAZ85"][QUOTE="MAZ85"]

guys that's really a lot , you've really surpassed that danish caricaturist in terms of insulting our prophet , I can't tolerate that , if you don't respect our prophet at least show some respect to our believes , how on earth do you respect people who worship cows and flying spaghetti alien monsters and still keep bashing out prophet ? i mean what the hell ? shame on you !!! after all this you as why bin laden ( and now i say peace be upon him - he was a muslim after all ) blew up your buildings ? ask yourselves people !!! if you said this stuff in front of me and even thought i'm cold blooded i'd remove your eyeballs and eat them for dinner or put them in a freaking jar or some **** , man i'm tired and you really don't know how to lead a respectful conversation , stop just stop

[/QUOTE ] why is it that we muslim never in 1400 years insulted any prophet of any nation , but people seem to keep insulting our prophet ? it's not like we insulted your prophets first , we respect all prophets and we know that evey prophet is better placed than us normal humans .Ilovegames1992

Lol

islam is 1400 years old and you are clearly an ignorant and i shouldn't be wasting my time talking to you
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[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Tradition and cultures change. The marriage age back in the time in question was roughly age 12 for females and 17 for males. Which was considered normal....though today we would definitely consider 12 as way too young. LJS9502_basic

That doesn't make it right.

Right and wrong are subjective though. It doesn't make it right to you, me, or modern society...but back then people didn't live as long as they do now so they procreated much younger. Survival of the species is still the driving force in animals...and humans are animals.

Even so, 6-9 is much younger than 12 anyway. Your point doesn't amount to much. Plus you would have thought an enlightened man would know better.

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[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="MAZ85"][QUOTE="MAZ85"]

guys that's really a lot , you've really surpassed that danish caricaturist in terms of insulting our prophet , I can't tolerate that , if you don't respect our prophet at least show some respect to our believes , how on earth do you respect people who worship cows and flying spaghetti alien monsters and still keep bashing out prophet ? i mean what the hell ? shame on you !!! after all this you as why bin laden ( and now i say peace be upon him - he was a muslim after all ) blew up your buildings ? ask yourselves people !!! if you said this stuff in front of me and even thought i'm cold blooded i'd remove your eyeballs and eat them for dinner or put them in a freaking jar or some **** , man i'm tired and you really don't know how to lead a respectful conversation , stop just stop

[/QUOTE ] why is it that we muslim never in 1400 years insulted any prophet of any nation , but people seem to keep insulting our prophet ? it's not like we insulted your prophets first , we respect all prophets and we know that evey prophet is better placed than us normal humans .MAZ85

Lol

islam is 1400 years old and you are clearly an ignorant and i shouldn't be wasting my time talking to you

You thought that's why i was lolling?

Lol.

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#184 MAZ85
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[QUOTE="MAZ85"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Lol

Ilovegames1992

islam is 1400 years old and you are clearly an ignorant and i shouldn't be wasting my time talking to you

You thought that's why i was lolling?

Lol.

do explain
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#185 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

That doesn't make it right.

Ilovegames1992

Right and wrong are subjective though. It doesn't make it right to you, me, or modern society...but back then people didn't live as long as they do now so they procreated much younger. Survival of the species is still the driving force in animals...and humans are animals.

Even so, 6-9 is much younger than 12 anyway. Your point doesn't amount to much. Plus you would have thought an enlightened man would know better.

Enlightened? He was still of his times....
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#186 coolbeans90
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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] She aged and still never thought it was bad, just like when she was before. :| You're confusing intertwining two issues here. One is general, and the other is special.Victorious_Fize

The point is that she can age and not exactly ever consider it wrong. See: child abuse victims. That hardly grants consent nor justifies it.

Ok then, onto child abuse victims. If the child is still young and think it was good, we say it's wrong. But when someone reaches his effin 30's with a collected mind and sane brain (I assume you'll say she's a psychopath now) and still think it was good, I will not think I am in the position of telling her what that special event in her life to be (of good or bad).

Now you are assuming she was sane later. Neither of the two child abuse victims (the hypothesized physical and sexual) would be with, respect to that issue, capable of properly assessing it due to past experiences. These things have long-term psychological effects.

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#188 blaze_adeel
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@MAZ85 bro stop wasting ur time and energy they will never believe the obvious. they dont understand that what Quran said 1400 years ago is coming true today especially in the field of science yet they do not believe even in the existence of God today Islam is the fastest growing religion on the west espically in women.i ask why are people espically women accepting Islam so rapidly why when as they claim it oppresses women? is it because someone is forcing them i think not. its because Islam provides security and harmony to individuals and the society
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#189 coolbeans90
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I am done with this thread.

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#190 ultrapc
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[QUOTE="blaze_adeel"]@MAZ85 bro stop wasting ur time and energy they will never believe the obvious. they dont understand that what Quran said 1400 years ago is coming true today especially in the field of science yet they do not believe even in the existence of God today Islam is the fastest growing religion on the west espically in women.i ask why are people espically women accepting Islam so rapidly why when as they claim it oppresses women? is it because someone is forcing them i think not. its because Islam provides security and harmony to individuals and the society

Provide proof of anything scientific in the quran , also people are accepting it because just like you and MAZ , you guys don't know a lot about your religion and you only take whatever you like and leave out the rest .
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#191 Victorious_Fize
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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

The point is that she can age and not exactly ever consider it wrong. See: child abuse victims. That hardly grants consent nor justifies it.

coolbeans90

Ok then, onto child abuse victims. If the child is still young and think it was good, we say it's wrong. But when someone reaches his effin 30's with a collected mind and sane brain (I assume you'll say she's a psychopath now) and still think it was good, I will not think I am in the position of telling her what that special event in her life to be (of good or bad).

Now you are assuming she was sane later. Neither of the two child abuse victims (the hypothesized physical and sexual) would be with, respect to that issue, capable of properly assessing it due to past experiences. These things have long-term psychological effects.

Aaaaaand we reach Aisha's sanity. As expected. She was pretty sane alright, unless you would like to prove otherwise. I assume now you'll say what happened when she was 9 to cause a huge damage to her brain. Which then I will ask you to prove that all marriage childs authoritatively and objectively damage the sanity of all its victims. This will drag on. I need to go out eat now.
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#192 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="blaze_adeel"]@MAZ85 bro stop wasting ur time and energy they will never believe the obvious. they dont understand that what Quran said 1400 years ago is coming true today especially in the field of science yet they do not believe even in the existence of God today Islam is the fastest growing religion on the west espically in women.i ask why are people espically women accepting Islam so rapidly why when as they claim it oppresses women? is it because someone is forcing them i think not. its because Islam provides security and harmony to individuals and the society

It's fastest growing in the west because of immigration...not because of conversions FYI.
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#193 Victorious_Fize
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I am done with this thread.

coolbeans90
As am I.
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#195 Necrifer
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As am I.

Victorious_Fize

I don't believe you.

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#196 MAZ85
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[QUOTE="ultrapc"][QUOTE="blaze_adeel"]@MAZ85 bro stop wasting ur time and energy they will never believe the obvious. they dont understand that what Quran said 1400 years ago is coming true today especially in the field of science yet they do not believe even in the existence of God today Islam is the fastest growing religion on the west espically in women.i ask why are people espically women accepting Islam so rapidly why when as they claim it oppresses women? is it because someone is forcing them i think not. its because Islam provides security and harmony to individuals and the society

Provide proof of anything scientific in the quran , also people are accepting it because just like you and MAZ , you guys don't know a lot about your religion and you only take whatever you like and leave out the rest .

you're an ex-muslim , keep out
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#197 Frame_Dragger
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Right and wrong are subjective though. It doesn't make it right to you, me, or modern society...but back then people didn't live as long as they do now so they procreated much younger. Survival of the species is still the driving force in animals...and humans are animals. LJS9502_basic

Even so, 6-9 is much younger than 12 anyway. Your point doesn't amount to much. Plus you would have thought an enlightened man would know better.

Enlightened? He was still of his times....

Just like Father McFondly? I know you took a pounding last night in OT LJ, but this is pathetic even by your lofty standards.
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#198 Frame_Dragger
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[QUOTE="ultrapc"][QUOTE="blaze_adeel"]@MAZ85 bro stop wasting ur time and energy they will never believe the obvious. they dont understand that what Quran said 1400 years ago is coming true today especially in the field of science yet they do not believe even in the existence of God today Islam is the fastest growing religion on the west espically in women.i ask why are people espically women accepting Islam so rapidly why when as they claim it oppresses women? is it because someone is forcing them i think not. its because Islam provides security and harmony to individuals and the society MAZ85
Provide proof of anything scientific in the quran , also people are accepting it because just like you and MAZ , you guys don't know a lot about your religion and you only take whatever you like and leave out the rest .

you're an ex-muslim , keep out

You won't listen to the nice Taqfir? What happened to your words of peace... I mean, before you went down the 9-11, Danish cartoonist psycho-road.
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#199 ultrapc
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[QUOTE="MAZ85"][QUOTE="ultrapc"][QUOTE="blaze_adeel"]@MAZ85 bro stop wasting ur time and energy they will never believe the obvious. they dont understand that what Quran said 1400 years ago is coming true today especially in the field of science yet they do not believe even in the existence of God today Islam is the fastest growing religion on the west espically in women.i ask why are people espically women accepting Islam so rapidly why when as they claim it oppresses women? is it because someone is forcing them i think not. its because Islam provides security and harmony to individuals and the society

Provide proof of anything scientific in the quran , also people are accepting it because just like you and MAZ , you guys don't know a lot about your religion and you only take whatever you like and leave out the rest .

you're an ex-muslim , keep out

Why ? I never disrespected your beliefs , you provide a point and i counter it . that's normal debating .