Whats with hatred towards mormons, muslims, and other non-christian religions?
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didn't i just respond to the same points in my post ?[QUOTE="ultrapc"][QUOTE="blaze_adeel"]
watch : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2s14T6x5AM
blaze_adeel
should have seen the whole video and if u still dont agree then i officially admit defeat (once again) .i post not to fight or inforce my believes on you. i post everything with intentions that may be just may be u will see what i see and may be you will be curious to learn more about it .
I did watch the whole thing , actually , I've seen the video before and like said in my original response , please go to the official explanation of the verses , they're not close to what that guy in the vid is saying , people like to twist things to suit their needs , also whatever information or breakthrough science you may find in the quran was known years before the quran . Again , I haven't disrespected you or MAZ , this is just a normal debate .didn't i just respond to the same points in my post ? ultrapc
should have seen the whole video and if u still dont agree then i officially admit defeat (once again) .i post not to fight or inforce my believes on you. i post everything with intentions that may be just may be u will see what i see and may be you will be curious to learn more about it .
I did watch the whole thing , actually , I've seen the video before and like said in my original response , please go to the official explanation of the verses , they're not close to what that guy in the vid is saying , people like to twist things to suit their needs , also whatever information or breakthrough science you may find in the quran was known years before the quran . Again , I haven't disrespected you or MAZ , this is just a normal debate . What did the Quran have to say about magnetohydrodynamics, or the nature of vector spaces in linear analysis? I'm guessing: nothing... would I be right?
[QUOTE="blaze_adeel"][QUOTE="ultrapc"] didn't i just respond to the same points in my post ? ultrapc
should have seen the whole video and if u still dont agree then i officially admit defeat (once again) .i post not to fight or inforce my believes on you. i post everything with intentions that may be just may be u will see what i see and may be you will be curious to learn more about it .
I did watch the whole thing , actually , I've seen the video before and like said in my original response , please go to the official explanation of the verses , they're not close to what that guy in the vid is saying , people like to twist things to suit their needs , also whatever information or breakthrough science you may find in the quran was known years before the quran . Again , I haven't disrespected you or MAZ , this is just a normal debate .so u believe that everything was known long before .people knew earth was geosperical people knew about embryology people knew sun rotates on its axis people knew plants have sexes people knew about water cycle people knew that earth and heaven were joined together and they were "broken apart'' (big bang theory) people knew about the fact that universe is contineously expanding ?
Quran is a book of signs not science .Quran gives clearindications not explanation
and please dont just point out one point invalid and say it is not true .if u disagree with one point out of hundred. then that doesnt mean those points are wrong it means you are not understanding the "invalid" point correctly
It's people, not religion.the_plan_manYou're correct..... And guys...don't feed the trolls. They're not going to accept what you post.
I did watch the whole thing , actually , I've seen the video before and like said in my original response , please go to the official explanation of the verses , they're not close to what that guy in the vid is saying , people like to twist things to suit their needs , also whatever information or breakthrough science you may find in the quran was known years before the quran . Again , I haven't disrespected you or MAZ , this is just a normal debate .[QUOTE="ultrapc"][QUOTE="blaze_adeel"]
should have seen the whole video and if u still dont agree then i officially admit defeat (once again) .i post not to fight or inforce my believes on you. i post everything with intentions that may be just may be u will see what i see and may be you will be curious to learn more about it .
blaze_adeel
so u believe that everything was known long before .people knew earth was geosperical people knew about embryology people knew sun rotates on its axis people knew plants have sexes people knew about water cycle people knew that earth and heaven were joined together and they were "broken apart'' (big bang theory) people knew about the fact that universe is contineously expanding ?
Quran is a book of signs not science .Quran gives clearindications not explanation
and please dont just point out one point invalid and say it is not true .if u disagree with one point out of hundred. then that doesnt mean those points are wrong it means you are not understanding the "invalid" point correctly
Embryology in quran is wrong ,old greeks knew about embryology (same steps mentioned in the quran) way before quran was ever written and even their information is wrong too , only modern medicine cleared the mysteries of embryology , i would explain but it would take hours , you can look into it out of a religious context . also big bang =/= heaven and earth breaking apart , that doesn't even make sense . Whatever information in the quran the prophet has accumulated during his trips with his uncle . anyway , i have to go now , if you want you can send me PM and leave questions , i'll be happy to debate with you or anyone else .Also, for those westerners making such disgusting accusations against prophet muhammad being a pedophile, know this: One of prophet Muhammad's closest companions, Abu Bakr, asked Muhammad to marry is daughter, Aisha, at the age of 6. Muhammad declined, stating that he could not because SHE HAD NOT HIT PUBERTY. So, when she had reached puberty, (The age being debated between 9-15), they sought Aisha's conscent to whether she would marry prophet Muhammad. After agreeing, they married...On another point, for those who argue that Muhammad married to fullfil his hypersexual desires, know that, at the age of 25, Muhammad married a 40 year old widow named Khadijah, not marrying anyone else for more than 25 YEARS until she passed away
EDIT: A very important note that nearly all forget: The life expectancy of people during those times was approximately 25-30 years, so, generally, people mraried at a MUCH younger age (Average being 10-14). Funnily enough, in the play "Romeo and Juliet", Romeo was approximately 14 years old, with juliet being 13 years old. This being a testament to my previous statement
[QUOTE="blaze_adeel"][QUOTE="ultrapc"] I did watch the whole thing , actually , I've seen the video before and like said in my original response , please go to the official explanation of the verses , they're not close to what that guy in the vid is saying , people like to twist things to suit their needs , also whatever information or breakthrough science you may find in the quran was known years before the quran . Again , I haven't disrespected you or MAZ , this is just a normal debate . ultrapc
so u believe that everything was known long before .people knew earth was geosperical people knew about embryology people knew sun rotates on its axis people knew plants have sexes people knew about water cycle people knew that earth and heaven were joined together and they were "broken apart'' (big bang theory) people knew about the fact that universe is contineously expanding ?
Quran is a book of signs not science .Quran gives clearindications not explanation
and please dont just point out one point invalid and say it is not true .if u disagree with one point out of hundred. then that doesnt mean those points are wrong it means you are not understanding the "invalid" point correctly
Embryology in quran is wrong ,old greeks knew about embryology (same steps mentioned in the quran) way before quran was ever written and even their information is wrong too , only modern medicine cleared the mysteries of embryology , i would explain but it would take hours , you can look into it out of a religious context . also big bang =/= heaven and earth breaking apart , that doesn't even make sense . Whatever information in the quran the prophet has accumulated during his trips with his uncle . anyway , i have to go now , if you want you can send me PM and leave questions , i'll be happy to debate with you or anyone else . Your obtaining your false information from random youtube videos...How pathetic :/
no comments flame dragger/ultrapc?Also, for those westerners making such disgusting accusations against prophet muhammad being a pedophile, know this: One of prophet Muhammad's closest companions, Abu Bakr, asked Muhammad to marry is daughter, Aisha, at the age of 6. Muhammad declined, stating that he could not because SHE HAD NOT HIT PUBERTY. So, when she had reached puberty, (The age being debated between 9-15), they sought Aisha's conscent to whether she would marry prophet Muhammad. After agreeing, they married...On another point, for those who argue that Muhammad married to fullfil his hypersexual desires, know that, at the age of 25, Muhammad married a 40 year old widow named Khadijah, not marrying anyone else for more than 25 YEARS until she passed away
EDIT: A very important note that nearly all forget: The life expectancy of people during those times was approximately 25-30 years, so, generally, people mraried at a MUCH younger age (Average being 10-14). Funnily enough, in the play "Romeo and Juliet", Romeo was approximately 14 years old, with juliet being 13 years old. This being a testament to my previous statement
Nayef_shroof
watch : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2s14T6x5AM
blaze_adeel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxk5AAA5FbI&feature=g-vrec
Wtf?
Pretty sure i got a warning from this thread. How awesome :D
[QUOTE="blaze_adeel"]
watch : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2s14T6x5AM
Postmortem123
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxk5AAA5FbI&feature=g-vrec
Wtf?
The video is obviously edited and elaborated out of context. No muslim supports terrorism, as it is strictly forbidden to kill any civillian, whether it be in times of war or stability. Dr. Zakir Nakir is stating how he doesn't believe the propagandistic lies imposed by the west onto the general public, but also states that he doesnt support bin laden because he doesnt know if bin laden caused 9/11, or if it was an inside jobI did mention in this thread religious guidelines hadn't changed.Pretty sure i got a warning from this thread. How awesome :D
Ilovegames1992
[QUOTE="Postmortem123"][QUOTE="blaze_adeel"]
watch : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2s14T6x5AM
Nayef_shroof
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxk5AAA5FbI&feature=g-vrec
Wtf?
The video is obviously edited and elaborated out of context. No muslim supports terrorism, as it is strictly forbidden to kill any civillian, whether it be in times of war or stability. Dr. Zakir Nakir is stating how he doesn't believe the propagandistic lies imposed by the west onto the general public, but also states that he doesnt support bin laden because he doesnt know if bin laden caused 9/11, or if it was an inside jobIts remarkable how fast you can find a bunch of pro-war/violence/terrorism quran excepts.
http://prophetofdoom.net/Islamic_Quotes.Islam
The way I see it, there is more hate towards christians. especially in this forum.
The video is obviously edited and elaborated out of context. No muslim supports terrorism, as it is strictly forbidden to kill any civillian, whether it be in times of war or stability. Dr. Zakir Nakir is stating how he doesn't believe the propagandistic lies imposed by the west onto the general public, but also states that he doesnt support bin laden because he doesnt know if bin laden caused 9/11, or if it was an inside job[QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"][QUOTE="Postmortem123"]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxk5AAA5FbI&feature=g-vrec
Wtf?
Ilovegames1992
Its remarkable how fast you can find a bunch of pro-war/violence/terrorism quran excepts.
http://prophetofdoom.net/Islamic_Quotes.Islam
:| "Prophetofdoom.net"...I believe its self explanatory that the information presented in the website is mistranslated, biased, and misinterpreted out of context from the Quran. They also fail to mention the verses that preceed or follow subsequently. Ill give you some examples of the mistranslated/misplaced context/cherryp icked "verses" the site has chosen:
"Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and lie in wait and ambush them using every strategem of war." This verse, albeit mistranslated, is directed in regards SPECIFICALLY to enemy combatants who fight you in combat. The verse that preceeds:
"Excepted are those with whom you made a treaty among the polytheists and then they have not been deficient toward you in anything or supported anyone against you; so complete for them their treaty until their term [has ended]. Indeed, Allah loves the righteous [who fear Him]."
And follows afterwards: "And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah . Then deliver him to his place of safety. That is because they are a people who do not know."
[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]
[QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"] The video is obviously edited and elaborated out of context. No muslim supports terrorism, as it is strictly forbidden to kill any civillian, whether it be in times of war or stability. Dr. Zakir Nakir is stating how he doesn't believe the propagandistic lies imposed by the west onto the general public, but also states that he doesnt support bin laden because he doesnt know if bin laden caused 9/11, or if it was an inside jobNayef_shroof
Its remarkable how fast you can find a bunch of pro-war/violence/terrorism quran excepts.
http://prophetofdoom.net/Islamic_Quotes.Islam
:| "Prophetofdoom.net"...I believe its self explanatory that the information presented in the website is mistranslated, biased, and misinterpreted out of context from the Quran. They also fail to mention the verses that preceed or follow subsequently. Ill give you some examples of the mistranslated/misplaced context/cherryp icked "verses" the site has chosen:
"Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and lie in wait and ambush them using every strategem of war." This verse, albeit mistranslated, is directed in regards SPECIFICALLY to enemy combatants who fight you in combat. The verse that preceeds:
"Excepted are those with whom you made a treaty among the polytheists and then they have not been deficient toward you in anything or supported anyone against you; so complete for them their treaty until their term [has ended]. Indeed, Allah loves the righteous [who fear Him]."
And follows afterwards: "And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah . Then deliver him to his place of safety. That is because they are a people who do not know."
Just makes Muslim seem elitist and arrogant if anything.
[QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"]
[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]
Its remarkable how fast you can find a bunch of pro-war/violence/terrorism quran excepts.
http://prophetofdoom.net/Islamic_Quotes.Islam
Ilovegames1992
:| "Prophetofdoom.net"...I believe its self explanatory that the information presented in the website is mistranslated, biased, and misinterpreted out of context from the Quran. They also fail to mention the verses that preceed or follow subsequently. Ill give you some examples of the mistranslated/misplaced context/cherryp icked "verses" the site has chosen:
"Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and lie in wait and ambush them using every strategem of war." This verse, albeit mistranslated, is directed in regards SPECIFICALLY to enemy combatants who fight you in combat. The verse that preceeds:
"Excepted are those with whom you made a treaty among the polytheists and then they have not been deficient toward you in anything or supported anyone against you; so complete for them their treaty until their term [has ended]. Indeed, Allah loves the righteous [who fear Him]."
And follows afterwards: "And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah . Then deliver him to his place of safety. That is because they are a people who do not know."
Just makes Muslim seem elitist and arrogant if anything.
What?[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"][QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"]
:| "Prophetofdoom.net"...I believe its self explanatory that the information presented in the website is mistranslated, biased, and misinterpreted out of context from the Quran. They also fail to mention the verses that preceed or follow subsequently. Ill give you some examples of the mistranslated/misplaced context/cherryp icked "verses" the site has chosen:
"Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and lie in wait and ambush them using every strategem of war." This verse, albeit mistranslated, is directed in regards SPECIFICALLY to enemy combatants who fight you in combat. The verse that preceeds:
"Excepted are those with whom you made a treaty among the polytheists and then they have not been deficient toward you in anything or supported anyone against you; so complete for them their treaty until their term [has ended]. Indeed, Allah loves the righteous [who fear Him]."
And follows afterwards: "And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah . Then deliver him to his place of safety. That is because they are a people who do not know."
Nayef_shroof
Just makes Muslim seem elitist and arrogant if anything.
What?Referring to yourselves as righteous and such. All religions do this obviously but it still annoys me. Annoys me that God only loves those who he scares too. And still:
"Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and lie in wait and ambush them using every strategem of war.
Not exactly peace loving.
What?[QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]
Just makes Muslim seem elitist and arrogant if anything.
Ilovegames1992
Referring to yourselves as righteous and such. All religions do this obviously but it still annoys me. Annoys me that God only loves those who he scares too. And still:
"Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and lie in wait and ambush them using every strategem of war.
Not exactly peace loving.
...Did you even read my post :/ ?"Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and lie in wait and ambush them using every strategem of war." This verse, albeit mistranslated, is directed in regards SPECIFICALLY to enemy combatants who fight you in combat. The verse that preceeds:
"Excepted are those with whom you made a treaty among the polytheists and then they have not been deficient toward you in anything or supported anyone against you; so complete for them their treaty until their term [has ended]. Indeed, Allah loves the righteous [who fear Him]."
And follows afterwards: "And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah . Then deliver him to his place of safety. That is because they are a people who do not know."
A skim through this thread and there are no less than 4 Muslims justifying paedophilia. One such justification - "After pubity she is no longer a child" . That about a 7 year old girl. So as I said earlier, Islam is a sick, evil 'religion' based upon hatred, violence, terrorism, PAEDOPHILIA and rape. Maz, you're a medical student because you want to help people? And then you try to justify men sleeping with children; or a 51 year old man marrying a 7 year old girl??? You shouldn't be allowed to practice medicine. Quite frankly you're all immoral and sick.WeenskiApparently, since you missed my post:
"Also, for those westerners making such disgusting accusations against prophet muhammad being a pedophile, know this: One of prophet Muhammad's closest companions, Abu Bakr, asked Muhammad to marry is daughter, Aisha, at the age of 6. Muhammad declined, stating that he could not because SHE HAD NOT HIT PUBERTY. So, when she had reached puberty, (The age being debated between 9-15), they sought Aisha's conscent to whether she would marry prophet Muhammad. After agreeing, they married...On another point, for those who argue that Muhammad married to fullfil his hypersexual desires, know that, at the age of 25, Muhammad married a 40 year old widow named Khadijah, not marrying anyone else for more than 25 YEARS until she passed away EDIT: A very important note that nearly all forget: The life expectancy of people during those times was approximately 25-30 years, so, generally, people mraried at a MUCH younger age (Average being 10-14). Funnily enough, in the play "Romeo and Juliet", Romeo was approximately 14 years old, with juliet being 13 years old. This being a testament to my previous statement"
[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]
[QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"] What? Nayef_shroof
Referring to yourselves as righteous and such. All religions do this obviously but it still annoys me. Annoys me that God only loves those who he scares too. And still:
"Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and lie in wait and ambush them using every strategem of war.
Not exactly peace loving.
...Did you even read my post :/ ?"Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and lie in wait and ambush them using every strategem of war." This verse, albeit mistranslated, is directed in regards SPECIFICALLY to enemy combatants who fight you in combat. The verse that preceeds:
"Excepted are those with whom you made a treaty among the polytheists and then they have not been deficient toward you in anything or supported anyone against you; so complete for them their treaty until their term [has ended]. Indeed, Allah loves the righteous [who fear Him]."
And follows afterwards: "And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah . Then deliver him to his place of safety. That is because they are a people who do not know."
Yes but still:
"Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and lie in wait and ambush them using every strategem of war.
[QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"]no comments flame dragger/ultrapc? Jazak Allah khair. :)Also, for those westerners making such disgusting accusations against prophet muhammad being a pedophile, know this: One of prophet Muhammad's closest companions, Abu Bakr, asked Muhammad to marry is daughter, Aisha, at the age of 6. Muhammad declined, stating that he could not because SHE HAD NOT HIT PUBERTY. So, when she had reached puberty, (The age being debated between 9-15), they sought Aisha's conscent to whether she would marry prophet Muhammad. After agreeing, they married...On another point, for those who argue that Muhammad married to fullfil his hypersexual desires, know that, at the age of 25, Muhammad married a 40 year old widow named Khadijah, not marrying anyone else for more than 25 YEARS until she passed away
EDIT: A very important note that nearly all forget: The life expectancy of people during those times was approximately 25-30 years, so, generally, people mraried at a MUCH younger age (Average being 10-14). Funnily enough, in the play "Romeo and Juliet", Romeo was approximately 14 years old, with juliet being 13 years old. This being a testament to my previous statement
Nayef_shroof
Thread went on from minority intolerance in America to nitpicking anything against Muslims. Ironic.
no comments flame dragger/ultrapc? Jazak Allah khair. :)[QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"][QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"]
Also, for those westerners making such disgusting accusations against prophet muhammad being a pedophile, know this: One of prophet Muhammad's closest companions, Abu Bakr, asked Muhammad to marry is daughter, Aisha, at the age of 6. Muhammad declined, stating that he could not because SHE HAD NOT HIT PUBERTY. So, when she had reached puberty, (The age being debated between 9-15), they sought Aisha's conscent to whether she would marry prophet Muhammad. After agreeing, they married...On another point, for those who argue that Muhammad married to fullfil his hypersexual desires, know that, at the age of 25, Muhammad married a 40 year old widow named Khadijah, not marrying anyone else for more than 25 YEARS until she passed away
EDIT: A very important note that nearly all forget: The life expectancy of people during those times was approximately 25-30 years, so, generally, people mraried at a MUCH younger age (Average being 10-14). Funnily enough, in the play "Romeo and Juliet", Romeo was approximately 14 years old, with juliet being 13 years old. This being a testament to my previous statement
Victorious_Fize
Thread went on from minority intolerance in America to nitpicking anything against Muslims. Ironic.
shokran jazeelan :P...Did you even read my post :/ ?[QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"]
[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]
Referring to yourselves as righteous and such. All religions do this obviously but it still annoys me. Annoys me that God only loves those who he scares too. And still:
"Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and lie in wait and ambush them using every strategem of war.
Not exactly peace loving.
Ilovegames1992
"Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and lie in wait and ambush them using every strategem of war." This verse, albeit mistranslated, is directed in regards SPECIFICALLY to enemy combatants who fight you in combat. The verse that preceeds:
"Excepted are those with whom you made a treaty among the polytheists and then they have not been deficient toward you in anything or supported anyone against you; so complete for them their treaty until their term [has ended]. Indeed, Allah loves the righteous [who fear Him]."
And follows afterwards: "And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah . Then deliver him to his place of safety. That is because they are a people who do not know."
Yes but still:
"Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and lie in wait and ambush them using every strategem of war.
Like I said, this verse is regarded specifically to enemy combatants, especially at the time of prophet muhammad when polytheists sought to kill every muslimno comments flame dragger/ultrapc? Jazak Allah khair. :)[QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"][QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"]
Also, for those westerners making such disgusting accusations against prophet muhammad being a pedophile, know this: One of prophet Muhammad's closest companions, Abu Bakr, asked Muhammad to marry is daughter, Aisha, at the age of 6. Muhammad declined, stating that he could not because SHE HAD NOT HIT PUBERTY. So, when she had reached puberty, (The age being debated between 9-15), they sought Aisha's conscent to whether she would marry prophet Muhammad. After agreeing, they married...On another point, for those who argue that Muhammad married to fullfil his hypersexual desires, know that, at the age of 25, Muhammad married a 40 year old widow named Khadijah, not marrying anyone else for more than 25 YEARS until she passed away
EDIT: A very important note that nearly all forget: The life expectancy of people during those times was approximately 25-30 years, so, generally, people mraried at a MUCH younger age (Average being 10-14). Funnily enough, in the play "Romeo and Juliet", Romeo was approximately 14 years old, with juliet being 13 years old. This being a testament to my previous statement
Victorious_Fize
Thread went on from minority intolerance in America to nitpicking anything against Muslims. Ironic.
No it didn't. Stop acting so persecuted.
A number of things contribute to what seems to be standard hypocrisy by various people that practice religion. In my opinion, most notably are Ego & Pride that surface when attempting to put down another religion or when trying to point out some fallacy in the logic being exercised by "this or that" religion.
Jazak Allah khair. :)[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]
[QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"] no comments flame dragger/ultrapc?Ilovegames1992
Thread went on from minority intolerance in America to nitpicking anything against Muslims. Ironic.
No it didn't. Stop acting so persecuted.
I'm not complaining, just pointing it out. I don't even consider this "persecution", I understand there are some concers about Islam and related matters, but some people continued just for the sake of feeling that they are triumphant. Arguments such as Aisha being insane and being "f*cked for enlightenment" are pretty messed up man.[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] Jazak Allah khair. :)
Thread went on from minority intolerance in America to nitpicking anything against Muslims. Ironic.
Victorious_Fize
No it didn't. Stop acting so persecuted.
I'm not complaining, just pointing it out. I don't even consider this "persecution", I understand there are some concers about Islam and related matters, but some people continued just for the sake of feeling that they are triumphant. Arguments such as Aisha being insane and being "f*cked for enlightenment" are pretty messed up man.To be honest i never made those remarks. They are a tad strange.
Apparently, since you missed my post:[QUOTE="Weenski"]A skim through this thread and there are no less than 4 Muslims justifying paedophilia. One such justification - "After pubity she is no longer a child" . That about a 7 year old girl. So as I said earlier, Islam is a sick, evil 'religion' based upon hatred, violence, terrorism, PAEDOPHILIA and rape. Maz, you're a medical student because you want to help people? And then you try to justify men sleeping with children; or a 51 year old man marrying a 7 year old girl??? You shouldn't be allowed to practice medicine. Quite frankly you're all immoral and sick.Nayef_shroof
"Also, for those westerners making such disgusting accusations against prophet muhammad being a pedophile, know this: One of prophet Muhammad's closest companions, Abu Bakr, asked Muhammad to marry is daughter, Aisha, at the age of 6. Muhammad declined, stating that he could not because SHE HAD NOT HIT PUBERTY. So, when she had reached puberty, (The age being debated between 9-15), they sought Aisha's conscent to whether she would marry prophet Muhammad. After agreeing, they married...On another point, for those who argue that Muhammad married to fullfil his hypersexual desires, know that, at the age of 25, Muhammad married a 40 year old widow named Khadijah, not marrying anyone else for more than 25 YEARS until she passed away EDIT: A very important note that nearly all forget: The life expectancy of people during those times was approximately 25-30 years, so, generally, people mraried at a MUCH younger age (Average being 10-14). Funnily enough, in the play "Romeo and Juliet", Romeo was approximately 14 years old, with juliet being 13 years old. This being a testament to my previous statement"
So you're saying that it's ok to marry young 9 year old girl for example as long as she's hit puberty?Thread went on from minority intolerance in America to nitpicking anything against Muslims. Ironic.Victorious_fizeI wouldn't call an intolerance of paedophelia 'nit picking'. 'It's ok if they've passed puberty?? Bunch of sickos. Paedos are sick people who deserve a slow and painful death. But so are disabled people, gay people, non Muslims, etc etc according to many Muslim organisations and communities. STOP JUSTIFYING MARRIGE TO 9 YEAR OLD GIRLS. IT'S WRONG!
Apparently, since you missed my post:
"Also, for those westerners making such disgusting accusations against prophet muhammad being a pedophile, know this: One of prophet Muhammad's closest companions, Abu Bakr, asked Muhammad to marry is daughter, Aisha, at the age of 6. Muhammad declined, stating that he could not because SHE HAD NOT HIT PUBERTY. So, when she had reached puberty, (The age being debated between 9-15), they sought Aisha's conscent to whether she would marry prophet Muhammad. After agreeing, they married...On another point, for those who argue that Muhammad married to fullfil his hypersexual desires, know that, at the age of 25, Muhammad married a 40 year old widow named Khadijah, not marrying anyone else for more than 25 YEARS until she passed away EDIT: A very important note that nearly all forget: The life expectancy of people during those times was approximately 25-30 years, so, generally, people mraried at a MUCH younger age (Average being 10-14). Funnily enough, in the play "Romeo and Juliet", Romeo was approximately 14 years old, with juliet being 13 years old. This being a testament to my previous statement"
So you're saying that it's ok to marry young 9 year old girl for example as long as she's hit puberty? [QUOTE="Victorious_fize"]Thread went on from minority intolerance in America to nitpicking anything against Muslims. Ironic.WeenskiI wouldn't call an intolerance of paedophelia 'nit picking'. 'It's ok if they've passed puberty?? Bunch of sickos. Paedos are sick people who deserve a slow and painful death. But so are disabled people, gay people, non Muslims, etc etc according to many Muslim organisations and communities. STOP JUSTIFYING MARRIGE TO 9 YEAR OLD GIRLS. IT'S WRONG! What your stating is part of Islam in NOT TRUE. Frankly, your spouting disgusting LIES about Islam. Your just an ignorant biggot who has nothing to contribute but misinformation and hatred towards Islam. Where did you obtain the notion that disabled people and non-muslims deserve death? BTW, regarding homosexuals, they cannot be flamboyant about their sexual orientation or represent homosexuality in public, but other than that, they can be homosexuals in private (Obviously though they will receive punishment from God after they die)
I'm not complaining, just pointing it out. I don't even consider this "persecution", I understand there are some concers about Islam and related matters, but some people continued just for the sake of feeling that they are triumphant. Arguments such as Aisha being insane and being "f*cked for enlightenment" are pretty messed up man.[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]
No it didn't. Stop acting so persecuted.
Ilovegames1992
To be honest i never made those remarks. They are a tad strange.
Heh, yeah. :P
BTW, regarding homosexuals, they cannot be flamboyant about their sexual orientation or represent homosexuality in public, but other than that, they can be homosexuals in private (Obviously though they will receive punishment from God after they die)Nayef_shroof
That's pretty bigoted.
[QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"]So you're saying that it's ok to marry young 9 year old girl for example as long as she's hit puberty?[QUOTE="Weenski"] Apparently, since you missed my post:
"Also, for those westerners making such disgusting accusations against prophet muhammad being a pedophile, know this: One of prophet Muhammad's closest companions, Abu Bakr, asked Muhammad to marry is daughter, Aisha, at the age of 6. Muhammad declined, stating that he could not because SHE HAD NOT HIT PUBERTY. So, when she had reached puberty, (The age being debated between 9-15), they sought Aisha's conscent to whether she would marry prophet Muhammad. After agreeing, they married...On another point, for those who argue that Muhammad married to fullfil his hypersexual desires, know that, at the age of 25, Muhammad married a 40 year old widow named Khadijah, not marrying anyone else for more than 25 YEARS until she passed away EDIT: A very important note that nearly all forget: The life expectancy of people during those times was approximately 25-30 years, so, generally, people mraried at a MUCH younger age (Average being 10-14). Funnily enough, in the play "Romeo and Juliet", Romeo was approximately 14 years old, with juliet being 13 years old. This being a testament to my previous statement"
Weenski
Thread went on from minority intolerance in America to nitpicking anything against Muslims. Ironic.Victorious_fizeI wouldn't call an intolerance of paedophelia 'nit picking'. 'It's ok if they've passed puberty?? Bunch of sickos. Paedos are sick people who deserve a slow and painful death. But so are disabled people, gay people, non Muslims, etc etc according to many Muslim organisations and communities. STOP JUSTIFYING MARRIGE TO 9 YEAR OLD GIRLS. IT'S WRONG!
We are not justifying child marrige, we are explaining Aisha's case. Anything else in your post is just clouded anger/hate...
[QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"] BTW, regarding homosexuals, they cannot be flamboyant about their sexual orientation or represent homosexuality in public, but other than that, they can be homosexuals in private (Obviously though they will receive punishment from God after they die)THE_DRUGGIE
That's pretty bigoted.
Homosexuality is one of the largest sins in Islam, and is strictly forbidden...Homosexuals cannot act as homosexuals in public, but they can in private, knowing the punishment that'll be given by God.[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"][QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"] BTW, regarding homosexuals, they cannot be flamboyant about their sexual orientation or represent homosexuality in public, but other than that, they can be homosexuals in private (Obviously though they will receive punishment from God after they die)Nayef_shroof
That's pretty bigoted.
Homosexuality is one of the largest sins in Islam, and is strictly forbidden...Homosexuals cannot act as homosexuals in public, but they can in private, knowing the punishment that'll be given by God.Like I said, that's pretty bigoted.
[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"][QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"] BTW, regarding homosexuals, they cannot be flamboyant about their sexual orientation or represent homosexuality in public, but other than that, they can be homosexuals in private (Obviously though they will receive punishment from God after they die)Nayef_shroof
That's pretty bigoted.
Homosexuality is one of the largest sins in Islam, and is strictly forbidden...Homosexuals cannot act as homosexuals in public, but they can in private, knowing the punishment that'll be given by God.How does one act homosexual?
Homosexuality is one of the largest sins in Islam, and is strictly forbidden...Homosexuals cannot act as homosexuals in public, but they can in private, knowing the punishment that'll be given by God.[QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"][QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]
That's pretty bigoted.
Ilovegames1992
How does one act homosexual?
Obviously acting in a feminine mannerHomosexuality is one of the largest sins in Islam, and is strictly forbidden...Homosexuals cannot act as homosexuals in public, but they can in private, knowing the punishment that'll be given by God.[QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"][QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]
That's pretty bigoted.
Ilovegames1992
How does one act homosexual?
Like this.
[QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"] BTW, regarding homosexuals, they cannot be flamboyant about their sexual orientation or represent homosexuality in public, but other than that, they can be homosexuals in private (Obviously though they will receive punishment from God after they die)THE_DRUGGIE
That's pretty bigoted.
Nobody said religion is easy. It's all a perceptual utopia of standardized rules everyone wishes to reach. Homosexuality is just one of those that religions haven't been kind to. Self determination is really subjective and most opt for at least being left in peace during their privacy, practicing what they want to do freely.[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"][QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"] BTW, regarding homosexuals, they cannot be flamboyant about their sexual orientation or represent homosexuality in public, but other than that, they can be homosexuals in private (Obviously though they will receive punishment from God after they die)Victorious_Fize
That's pretty bigoted.
Nobody said religion is easy. It's all a perceptual utopia of standardized rules everyone wishes to reach. Homosexuality is just one of those that religions haven't been kind to. Self determination is really subjective and most opt for at least being left in peace during their privacy, practicing what they want to do freely.But that's only a utopia for certain groups, thus not making it a utopia at all. Instead, you have people being restricted in the practice of their freedoms as well as demonizing them for something harmless.
Homosexuality is one of the largest sins in Islam, and is strictly forbidden...Homosexuals cannot act as homosexuals in public, but they can in private, knowing the punishment that'll be given by God.[QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"][QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]
That's pretty bigoted.
Ilovegames1992
How does one act homosexual?
Well, if you'd REALLY like to know...[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"][QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"] BTW, regarding homosexuals, they cannot be flamboyant about their sexual orientation or represent homosexuality in public, but other than that, they can be homosexuals in private (Obviously though they will receive punishment from God after they die)Victorious_Fize
That's pretty bigoted.
Nobody said religion is easy. It's all a perceptual utopia of standardized rules everyone wishes to reach. Homosexuality is just one of those that religions haven't been kind to. Self determination is really subjective and most opt for at least being left in peace during their privacy, practicing what they want to do freely. Sorry, but could you please delete your post quoting me and Weenski? The GS messaging system malfunctioned and misquoted meNobody said religion is easy. It's all a perceptual utopia of standardized rules everyone wishes to reach. Homosexuality is just one of those that religions haven't been kind to. Self determination is really subjective and most opt for at least being left in peace during their privacy, practicing what they want to do freely.[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]
That's pretty bigoted.
THE_DRUGGIE
But that's only a utopia for certain groups, thus not making it a utopia at all. Instead, you have people being restricted in the practice of their freedoms as well as demonizing them for something harmless.
LOL Homosexuality is not harmless in the slightest[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] Nobody said religion is easy. It's all a perceptual utopia of standardized rules everyone wishes to reach. Homosexuality is just one of those that religions haven't been kind to. Self determination is really subjective and most opt for at least being left in peace during their privacy, practicing what they want to do freely.Nayef_shroof
But that's only a utopia for certain groups, thus not making it a utopia at all. Instead, you have people being restricted in the practice of their freedoms as well as demonizing them for something harmless.
LOL Homosexuality is not harmless in the slightestCare to elaborate?
[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] Nobody said religion is easy. It's all a perceptual utopia of standardized rules everyone wishes to reach. Homosexuality is just one of those that religions haven't been kind to. Self determination is really subjective and most opt for at least being left in peace during their privacy, practicing what they want to do freely.Nayef_shroof
But that's only a utopia for certain groups, thus not making it a utopia at all. Instead, you have people being restricted in the practice of their freedoms as well as demonizing them for something harmless.
LOL Homosexuality is not harmless in the slightestyeah homosexuality corrupts the minds of our children and makes horrible diseases like hiv/aids spread throughout society.Please Log In to post.
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