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[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="Renevent42"]

Here's another:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality

Homosexuality is romantic attraction, sexual attraction, or sexual activity between members of the same sex or gender.

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Nice selective quoting you dumbass. Here's what is said RIGHT AFTER that: "As an orientation, homosexuality refers to 'an enduring pattern of or disposition to experience sexual, affectionate, or romantic attractions' primarily or exclusively to people of the same sex. " You're even more dense than the MRAs I know. Good job!

That doesn't contradict anything I said. I never once said attraction isn't part of the definition, however, sexual action is ALSO part of the definition.

The fact that the term is occasionally used to denote homosexual sexual activity doesn't actually mean that you must be homosexual if you have sex with man. Straight men can have sex with other men and still be straight (consensual or otherwise). You really don't know what you're talking about.
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[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I like how you're butthurt enough to pull out that card.

GreySeal9

Aww cute, playing the butthurt card now. You came into a conversation and threw down insults, what do you expect? Also, my assertion is probably correct.

Based on this thread? Definitely not. :lol:

I know I'm the one that started the insults (because you're dumb enough to deserve them), but the way that you responded is hilarious. "I'm probably more successful!" lol.

This thread absolutely shows me mentally superior than you. Not only am I correct, but I've actually been arguing a position, you simply waddled and in started insulting like a buffoon. You lost the war of intellects before you even started by acting like a child and just spouting insults.
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Renevent42"]The definition illustrates my position almost verbatim. You guys literally had to exclude parts of the definition in order to pretend to have a valid argument. Not only are you both wrong, you are dishonest.Renevent42

Parts of the definition?

Keep making it even clearer that you dont know how a dictionary works.

There are words and then there are definitions for them. One word can have more than one (either completely different from each other or very closely related). Bringing up one definition doesnt mean excluding parts of the definition. There's no accumulative definition of a word based on all of its possible definitions. Get that? Each definition has its proper context.

Examples:

1. play: a) v. to play, b) n. theatrical play, a play on words

Semantically related, yet very specific uses, and even completely different category of words (grammatically speaking)

2. fine: a) v. to fine (to impose a monetary punishment) b) adv. I'm fine

Not semantically related, different category of words

The word homosexual is like example number one. Perhaps of course, it makes it difficult for the simple minded that both definitions derive from the word as an adjective. Yet they are still slightly different semantically.

Toast_burner presented the definition of the word that describes human sexuality, as in the sexual attraction a person feels regardless of whether or not they've had sex or if they had, whom they've had sex with. For instance I was a homosexual man long before I had sex with guys. Same goes for you. I assume you were heterosexual long before you had sex with women. Do you deny that? If yes do as instructed previously. If not then you admit that sexuality doesnt have to do ONLY with whom you have sex with.

Therefore... someone who has had homosexual sex isnt necessarily homosexual.

For starters a lot of things can be included in homosexual sex or heterosexual sex. Earlier we were discussing strictly about blowjobs. If I, as a homosexual man, allow a woman to suck me off because she's a renowned cock-sucker, while I shut my eyes and think of gay porn, is not the same as getting it on with a woman through vaginal penetration, while kissing her, her t*ts, and whatever else. Yeah if the second happened I might start doubting that I am a homosexual and maybe I'm somewhere between homosexual and bisexual (again those labels used loosely).

I dont know if this right use of logic is too advanced for you but try to keep up.

So you have a definition of the word homosexual which describes the acts themselves ("homosexual sex" for instance) and one that describes the sexual attraction of persons ("a homosexual man" for instance). Notice the difference? Same word, different meaning. One meaning refers to acts, the other refers to persons.

Since the one we're struggling to pin down is the one defining sexual attraction and not sexual intercourse, that is the one that sets the parametres.

What does it say? It says that homosexual man, is someone that is sexually (and emotionally I suppose) attracted to other males. It mentions no acts. And its understandable and perfectly logical considering its easily agreed on that I, for instance, was a homosexual man long before I had sex with men. See? My sexual identity is separate from what sexual acts I could have participated in.

Therefore the definition you bolded doesnt necessarily say anything about the sexual identity of a person.

Are we ok?

The act of having homosexual sex doesn't say anything about the sexual orientation (which is what homosexual indicates) of the person? Laugh.

Selective reading?

Not surprised.

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[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]By your reasoning, a gay man having consensual sex with a lesbian is straight or at least bisexual.Renevent42
Dumb ass.

What would you think of a gay man having sex with a man with a vagina (non vaginal intercourse)?

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#305 Renevent42
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[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="ghoklebutter"] Nice selective quoting you dumbass. Here's what is said RIGHT AFTER that: "As an orientation, homosexuality refers to 'an enduring pattern of or disposition to experience sexual, affectionate, or romantic attractions' primarily or exclusively to people of the same sex. " You're even more dense than the MRAs I know. Good job!

That doesn't contradict anything I said. I never once said attraction isn't part of the definition, however, sexual action is ALSO part of the definition.

The fact that the term is occasionally used to denote homosexual sexual activity doesn't actually mean that you must be homosexual if you have sex with man. Straight men can have sex with other men and still be straight (consensual or otherwise). You really don't know what you're talking about.

Straight men who have sex with other men are not straight...they are bi, or one of the other many shades in between.
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[QUOTE="Renevent42"] The act of having homosexual sex doesn't say anything about the sexual orientation (which is what homosexual indicates) of the person? Laugh.

Nope. The fact that you can't wrap your mind around that is proof of your stupidity and narrow-mindedness.
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Renevent42"]The definition illustrates my position almost verbatim. You guys literally had to exclude parts of the definition in order to pretend to have a valid argument. Not only are you both wrong, you are dishonest.Renevent42

Parts of the definition?

Keep making it even clearer that you dont know how a dictionary works.

There are words and then there are definitions for them. One word can have more than one (either completely different from each other or very closely related). Bringing up one definition doesnt mean excluding parts of the definition. There's no accumulative definition of a word based on all of its possible definitions. Get that? Each definition has its proper context.

Examples:

1. play: a) v. to play, b) n. theatrical play, a play on words

Semantically related, yet very specific uses, and even completely different category of words (grammatically speaking)

2. fine: a) v. to fine (to impose a monetary punishment) b) adv. I'm fine

Not semantically related, different category of words

The word homosexual is like example number one. Perhaps of course, it makes it difficult for the simple minded that both definitions derive from the word as an adjective. Yet they are still slightly different semantically.

Toast_burner presented the definition of the word that describes human sexuality, as in the sexual attraction a person feels regardless of whether or not they've had sex or if they had, whom they've had sex with. For instance I was a homosexual man long before I had sex with guys. Same goes for you. I assume you were heterosexual long before you had sex with women. Do you deny that? If yes do as instructed previously. If not then you admit that sexuality doesnt have to do ONLY with whom you have sex with.

Therefore... someone who has had homosexual sex isnt necessarily homosexual.

For starters a lot of things can be included in homosexual sex or heterosexual sex. Earlier we were discussing strictly about blowjobs. If I, as a homosexual man, allow a woman to suck me off because she's a renowned cock-sucker, while I shut my eyes and think of gay porn, is not the same as getting it on with a woman through vaginal penetration, while kissing her, her t*ts, and whatever else. Yeah if the second happened I might start doubting that I am a homosexual and maybe I'm somewhere between homosexual and bisexual (again those labels used loosely).

I dont know if this right use of logic is too advanced for you but try to keep up.

So you have a definition of the word homosexual which describes the acts themselves ("homosexual sex" for instance) and one that describes the sexual attraction of persons ("a homosexual man" for instance). Notice the difference? Same word, different meaning. One meaning refers to acts, the other refers to persons.

Since the one we're struggling to pin down is the one defining sexual attraction and not sexual intercourse, that is the one that sets the parametres.

What does it say? It says that homosexual man, is someone that is sexually (and emotionally I suppose) attracted to other males. It mentions no acts. And its understandable and perfectly logical considering its easily agreed on that I, for instance, was a homosexual man long before I had sex with men. See? My sexual identity is separate from what sexual acts I could have participated in.

Therefore the definition you bolded doesnt necessarily say anything about the sexual identity of a person.

Are we ok?

The act of having homosexual sex doesn't say anything about the sexual orientation (which is what homosexual indicates) of the person? Laugh.

You wanna know why you're stupid? Because your mind is incapable of thinking in any shade other than black and white.

The act of having homosexual sex usually says something about their orientation, but not always. There are exceptions and if there are exceptions, the two can't be treated as synonymous.

So yes, a dude having gay sex is most likely gay, but that does not mean that orientation=sexual acts.

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[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]

Parts of the definition?

Keep making it even clearer that you dont know how a dictionary works.

There are words and then there are definitions for them. One word can have more than one (either completely different from each other or very closely related). Bringing up one definition doesnt mean excluding parts of the definition. There's no accumulative definition of a word based on all of its possible definitions. Get that? Each definition has its proper context.

Examples:

1. play: a) v. to play, b) n. theatrical play, a play on words

Semantically related, yet very specific uses, and even completely different category of words (grammatically speaking)

2. fine: a) v. to fine (to impose a monetary punishment) b) adv. I'm fine

Not semantically related, different category of words

The word homosexual is like example number one. Perhaps of course, it makes it difficult for the simple minded that both definitions derive from the word as an adjective. Yet they are still slightly different semantically.

Toast_burner presented the definition of the word that describes human sexuality, as in the sexual attraction a person feels regardless of whether or not they've had sex or if they had, whom they've had sex with. For instance I was a homosexual man long before I had sex with guys. Same goes for you. I assume you were heterosexual long before you had sex with women. Do you deny that? If yes do as instructed previously. If not then you admit that sexuality doesnt have to do ONLY with whom you have sex with.

Therefore... someone who has had homosexual sex isnt necessarily homosexual.

For starters a lot of things can be included in homosexual sex or heterosexual sex. Earlier we were discussing strictly about blowjobs. If I, as a homosexual man, allow a woman to suck me off because she's a renowned cock-sucker, while I shut my eyes and think of gay porn, is not the same as getting it on with a woman through vaginal penetration, while kissing her, her t*ts, and whatever else. Yeah if the second happened I might start doubting that I am a homosexual and maybe I'm somewhere between homosexual and bisexual (again those labels used loosely).

I dont know if this right use of logic is too advanced for you but try to keep up.

So you have a definition of the word homosexual which describes the acts themselves ("homosexual sex" for instance) and one that describes the sexual attraction of persons ("a homosexual man" for instance). Notice the difference? Same word, different meaning. One meaning refers to acts, the other refers to persons.

Since the one we're struggling to pin down is the one defining sexual attraction and not sexual intercourse, that is the one that sets the parametres.

What does it say? It says that homosexual man, is someone that is sexually (and emotionally I suppose) attracted to other males. It mentions no acts. And its understandable and perfectly logical considering its easily agreed on that I, for instance, was a homosexual man long before I had sex with men. See? My sexual identity is separate from what sexual acts I could have participated in.

Therefore the definition you bolded doesnt necessarily say anything about the sexual identity of a person.

Are we ok?

Teenaged

The act of having homosexual sex doesn't say anything about the sexual orientation (which is what homosexual indicates) of the person? Laugh.

Selective reading?

Not surprised.

I didn't need a 1000 words to refute your long winded bullshit.
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[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="Renevent42"] That doesn't contradict anything I said. I never once said attraction isn't part of the definition, however, sexual action is ALSO part of the definition.Renevent42
The fact that the term is occasionally used to denote homosexual sexual activity doesn't actually mean that you must be homosexual if you have sex with man. Straight men can have sex with other men and still be straight (consensual or otherwise). You really don't know what you're talking about.

Straight men who have sex with other men are not straight...they are bi, or one of the other many shades in between.

Why? If they have no attraction to them then they can't possibly be considered gay or bi. Some guys sleep with men just for money

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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Renevent42"] Aww cute, playing the butthurt card now. You came into a conversation and threw down insults, what do you expect? Also, my assertion is probably correct.Renevent42

Based on this thread? Definitely not. :lol:

I know I'm the one that started the insults (because you're dumb enough to deserve them), but the way that you responded is hilarious. "I'm probably more successful!" lol.

This thread absolutely shows me mentally superior than you. Not only am I correct, but I've actually been arguing a position, you simply waddled and in started insulting like a buffoon. You lost the war of intellects before you even started by acting like a child and just spouting insults.

Well, of course you would think that, but you're a dumb ass, so....

You are not correct. You are treating two things as synonymous that are not synonymous.

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You wanna know why you're stupid? Because your mind is incapable of thinking in any shade other than black and white.

The act of having homosexual sex usually says something about their orientation, but not always. There are exceptions and if there are exceptions, the two can't be treated as synonymous.

So yes, a dude having gay sex is most likely gay, but that does not mean that orientation=sexual acts.

GreySeal9

See right now I'm not even pissed that he makes the false equivocation.

Its just irritating and slightly amusing that he doesnt know how to properly use a dictionary.

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#312 Renevent42
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[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]

Parts of the definition?

Keep making it even clearer that you dont know how a dictionary works.

There are words and then there are definitions for them. One word can have more than one (either completely different from each other or very closely related). Bringing up one definition doesnt mean excluding parts of the definition. There's no accumulative definition of a word based on all of its possible definitions. Get that? Each definition has its proper context.

Examples:

1. play: a) v. to play, b) n. theatrical play, a play on words

Semantically related, yet very specific uses, and even completely different category of words (grammatically speaking)

2. fine: a) v. to fine (to impose a monetary punishment) b) adv. I'm fine

Not semantically related, different category of words

The word homosexual is like example number one. Perhaps of course, it makes it difficult for the simple minded that both definitions derive from the word as an adjective. Yet they are still slightly different semantically.

Toast_burner presented the definition of the word that describes human sexuality, as in the sexual attraction a person feels regardless of whether or not they've had sex or if they had, whom they've had sex with. For instance I was a homosexual man long before I had sex with guys. Same goes for you. I assume you were heterosexual long before you had sex with women. Do you deny that? If yes do as instructed previously. If not then you admit that sexuality doesnt have to do ONLY with whom you have sex with.

Therefore... someone who has had homosexual sex isnt necessarily homosexual.

For starters a lot of things can be included in homosexual sex or heterosexual sex. Earlier we were discussing strictly about blowjobs. If I, as a homosexual man, allow a woman to suck me off because she's a renowned cock-sucker, while I shut my eyes and think of gay porn, is not the same as getting it on with a woman through vaginal penetration, while kissing her, her t*ts, and whatever else. Yeah if the second happened I might start doubting that I am a homosexual and maybe I'm somewhere between homosexual and bisexual (again those labels used loosely).

I dont know if this right use of logic is too advanced for you but try to keep up.

So you have a definition of the word homosexual which describes the acts themselves ("homosexual sex" for instance) and one that describes the sexual attraction of persons ("a homosexual man" for instance). Notice the difference? Same word, different meaning. One meaning refers to acts, the other refers to persons.

Since the one we're struggling to pin down is the one defining sexual attraction and not sexual intercourse, that is the one that sets the parametres.

What does it say? It says that homosexual man, is someone that is sexually (and emotionally I suppose) attracted to other males. It mentions no acts. And its understandable and perfectly logical considering its easily agreed on that I, for instance, was a homosexual man long before I had sex with men. See? My sexual identity is separate from what sexual acts I could have participated in.

Therefore the definition you bolded doesnt necessarily say anything about the sexual identity of a person.

Are we ok?

GreySeal9

The act of having homosexual sex doesn't say anything about the sexual orientation (which is what homosexual indicates) of the person? Laugh.

You wanna know why you're stupid? Because your mind is incapable of thinking in any shade other than black and white.

The act of having homosexual sex usually says something about their orientation, but not always. There are exceptions and if there are exceptions, the two can't be treated as synonymous.

So yes, a dude having gay sex is most likely gay, but that does not mean that orientation=sexual acts.

Already covered, you would have known that if you didn't just jump in foaming at the mouth and insulting like a child.
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

You wanna know why you're stupid? Because your mind is incapable of thinking in any shade other than black and white.

The act of having homosexual sex usually says something about their orientation, but not always. There are exceptions and if there are exceptions, the two can't be treated as synonymous.

So yes, a dude having gay sex is most likely gay, but that does not mean that orientation=sexual acts.

Teenaged

See right now I'm not even pissed that he makes the false equivocation.

Its just irritating and slightly amusing that he doesnt know how to properly use a dictionary.

I've now shown two separate cases where sexual activity is part of the definition. Sorry, you are wrong.
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Renevent42"] The act of having homosexual sex doesn't say anything about the sexual orientation (which is what homosexual indicates) of the person? Laugh.Renevent42

Selective reading?

Not surprised.

I didn't need a 1000 words to refute your long winded bullshit.

Of course.

But you have to read it all first.

But then again, you might actually have read it all, understood only 10% of it and then responded to that; which you cant even quote properly... how dumb can you be?

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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

You wanna know why you're stupid? Because your mind is incapable of thinking in any shade other than black and white.

The act of having homosexual sex usually says something about their orientation, but not always. There are exceptions and if there are exceptions, the two can't be treated as synonymous.

So yes, a dude having gay sex is most likely gay, but that does not mean that orientation=sexual acts.

Renevent42

See right now I'm not even pissed that he makes the false equivocation.

Its just irritating and slightly amusing that he doesnt know how to properly use a dictionary.

I've now shown two separate cases where sexual activity is part of the definition. Sorry, you are wrong.

Sweetie, no one refuted you that sexual activity is what one of the definitions of the word refers to.

Are you capable of reading?

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[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Based on this thread? Definitely not. :lol:

I know I'm the one that started the insults (because you're dumb enough to deserve them), but the way that you responded is hilarious. "I'm probably more successful!" lol.

GreySeal9

This thread absolutely shows me mentally superior than you. Not only am I correct, but I've actually been arguing a position, you simply waddled and in started insulting like a buffoon. You lost the war of intellects before you even started by acting like a child and just spouting insults.

Well, of course you would think that, but you're a dumb ass, so....

You are not correct. You are treating two things as synonymous that are not synonymous.

Basically I pegged you. Also, I am correct.
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[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]Selective reading?

Not surprised.

Teenaged

I didn't need a 1000 words to refute your long winded bullshit.

Of course.

But you have to read it all first.

But then again, you might actually have read it all, understood only 10% of it and then responded to that; which you cant even quote properly... how dumb can you be?

Smarter than you, which is all I need to be.
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Renevent42"] The act of having homosexual sex doesn't say anything about the sexual orientation (which is what homosexual indicates) of the person? Laugh.Renevent42

You wanna know why you're stupid? Because your mind is incapable of thinking in any shade other than black and white.

The act of having homosexual sex usually says something about their orientation, but not always. There are exceptions and if there are exceptions, the two can't be treated as synonymous.

So yes, a dude having gay sex is most likely gay, but that does not mean that orientation=sexual acts.

Already covered, you would have known that if you didn't just jump in foaming at the mouth and insulting like a child.

It was covered and yet you still don't understand why your conflation of orientation and sexual acts is fallicious? Hood lord.

Also, if you think "Good lord Renevent is dense" is foaming at the mouth, you're even dumber than I thought.

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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Renevent42"] I didn't need a 1000 words to refute your long winded bullshit.Renevent42

Of course.

But you have to read it all first.

But then again, you might actually have read it all, understood only 10% of it and then responded to that; which you cant even quote properly... how dumb can you be?

Smarter than you, which is all I need to be.

I dont think intelligence is affected by self-fullfilling prophecy proceedures.

I mean, I could help you out and tell you you're smart every day but I dont think I'd achieve much.

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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Renevent42"] The act of having homosexual sex doesn't say anything about the sexual orientation (which is what homosexual indicates) of the person? Laugh.Renevent42

Selective reading?

Not surprised.

I didn't need a 1000 words to refute your long winded bullshit.

...He said that you read it selectively, not that your response is too short. Learn to read.

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[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]See right now I'm not even pissed that he makes the false equivocation.

Its just irritating and slightly amusing that he doesnt know how to properly use a dictionary.

Teenaged

I've now shown two separate cases where sexual activity is part of the definition. Sorry, you are wrong.

Sweetie, no one refuted you that sexual activity is what one of the definitions of the word refers to.

Are you capable of reading?

So you agree a man consensually sucking another man's dick is homosexual activity then? And by definition then, that person engaging consensual homosexual activity is therefore a homosexual (or bi, bi-curious, hetero-flexible if they also like the opposite sex)?
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Renevent42"] This thread absolutely shows me mentally superior than you. Not only am I correct, but I've actually been arguing a position, you simply waddled and in started insulting like a buffoon. You lost the war of intellects before you even started by acting like a child and just spouting insults.Renevent42

Well, of course you would think that, but you're a dumb ass, so....

You are not correct. You are treating two things as synonymous that are not synonymous.

Basically I pegged you. Also, I am correct.

You can say you are correct until you are blue in the face, but that does make it so.

Also, you take this internet bussiness pretty seriously. "War of the intellects." lol. Weirdo.

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[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]Selective reading?

Not surprised.

ghoklebutter

I didn't need a 1000 words to refute your long winded bullshit.

...He said that you read it selectively, not that your response is too short. Learn to read.

I read both fine, I simply responded to what was important.
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#324 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Renevent42"] I've now shown two separate cases where sexual activity is part of the definition. Sorry, you are wrong.Renevent42

Sweetie, no one refuted you that sexual activity is what one of the definitions of the word refers to.

Are you capable of reading?

So you agree a man consensually sucking another man's dick is homosexual activity then? And by definition then, that person engaging consensual homosexual activity is therefore a homosexual (or bi, bi-curious, hetero-flexible if they also like the opposite sex)?

Not necessarily. He would only be gay or bi if he finds the idea attractive. 

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#325 Renevent42
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[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Well, of course you would think that, but you're a dumb ass, so....

You are not correct. You are treating two things as synonymous that are not synonymous.

GreySeal9

Basically I pegged you. Also, I am correct.

You can say you are correct until you are blue in the face, but that does make it so.

Also, you take this internet bussiness pretty seriously. "War of the intellects." lol. Weirdo.

Here you are continuing to talk shit though? You are full of crap...you have nothing of value to say and simply acting like a child spouting insults.
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#326 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]Of course.

But you have to read it all first.

But then again, you might actually have read it all, understood only 10% of it and then responded to that; which you cant even quote properly... how dumb can you be?

Teenaged

Smarter than you, which is all I need to be.

I dont think intelligence is affected by self-fullfilling prophecy proceedures.

I mean, I could help you out and tell you you're smart every day but I dont think I'd achieve much.

And you'd be lying.

But based on how insecure he seems about his "intellect" (after all, this is a war of the intellects :lol: ), a little encouragement might help him.

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#327 Renevent42
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[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]Sweetie, no one refuted you that sexual activity is what one of the definitions of the word refers to.

Are you capable of reading?

toast_burner

So you agree a man consensually sucking another man's dick is homosexual activity then? And by definition then, that person engaging consensual homosexual activity is therefore a homosexual (or bi, bi-curious, hetero-flexible if they also like the opposite sex)?

Not necessarily. He would only be gay or bi if he finds the idea attractive. 

And why exactly would he be sucking someone's dick if he didn't find the idea attractive? BTW, bi-curious doesn't necessarily mean they absolutely find the opposite sex attractive, sometimes it can be a curiosity. Which for like the 50th time, is what I have been saying about this exact scenario.
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#328 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Renevent42"] I've now shown two separate cases where sexual activity is part of the definition. Sorry, you are wrong.Renevent42

Sweetie, no one refuted you that sexual activity is what one of the definitions of the word refers to.

Are you capable of reading?

So you agree a man consensually sucking another man's dick is homosexual activity then? And by definition then, that person engaging consensual homosexual activity is therefore a homosexual (or bi, bi-curious, hetero-flexible if they also like the opposite sex)?

We were talking about the guy getting sucked off not the one giving the blowjob... keep up.

Besides that, it would depend on a lot of things. Is the guy getting sucked off aware that it is a guy sucking him off? Is he aware but at the same times closes his eyes and thinks of straight porn? Is the guy giving him the blowjob dressed and prepped just like a woman to the point that he doesnt remind the other guy of a man? Is he aware that it is a guy but that guy isnt visible to him (ex, in a gloryhole situation)?

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#329 ghoklebutter
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Renevent42"] Basically I pegged you. Also, I am correct.Renevent42

You can say you are correct until you are blue in the face, but that does make it so.

Also, you take this internet bussiness pretty seriously. "War of the intellects." lol. Weirdo.

Here you are continuing to talk shit though? You are full of crap...you have nothing of value to say and simply acting like a child spouting insults.

lol irony
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#330 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

[QUOTE="Renevent42"] I didn't need a 1000 words to refute your long winded bullshit.Renevent42

...He said that you read it selectively, not that your response is too short. Learn to read.

I read both fine, I simply responded to what was important.

What you thought was important. Which you also misquoted. By accident...?

At this point you should start doubting yourself. Its the healthy thing to do.

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#331 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="Renevent42"] So you agree a man consensually sucking another man's dick is homosexual activity then? And by definition then, that person engaging consensual homosexual activity is therefore a homosexual (or bi, bi-curious, hetero-flexible if they also like the opposite sex)?Renevent42

Not necessarily. He would only be gay or bi if he finds the idea attractive. 

And why exactly would he be sucking someone's dick if he didn't find the idea attractive? BTW, bi-curious doesn't necessarily mean they absolutely find the opposite sex attractive, sometimes it can be a curiosity. Which for like the 50th time, is what I have been saying about this exact scenario.

Prostitution?

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#332 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Renevent42"] Basically I pegged you. Also, I am correct.Renevent42

You can say you are correct until you are blue in the face, but that does make it so.

Also, you take this internet bussiness pretty seriously. "War of the intellects." lol. Weirdo.

Here you are continuing to talk shit though? You are full of crap...you have nothing of value to say and simply acting like a child spouting insults.

Of course I'm talking sh!t. Why? Because you are not only a dumb ass, but you are a dumb ass with delusions about your own intelligence.

It's really funny how serious you're getting about this tho. The only thing I said was "Good lord Renevent is dense" and you got sooooo bent out of the shape that you started talking about who is more successful and a "war of the inellects". :lol:

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#333 Renevent42
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Renevent42"]Not necessarily. He would only be gay or bi if he finds the idea attractive. 

GreySeal9

And why exactly would he be sucking someone's dick if he didn't find the idea attractive? BTW, bi-curious doesn't necessarily mean they absolutely find the opposite sex attractive, sometimes it can be a curiosity. Which for like the 50th time, is what I have been saying about this exact scenario.

Prostitution?

So basically, people doing it out of necessity to live or are strung out crack heads. Yeah, that sure proves your point. That's more along the lines of rape/unconsensual/etc. That's someone doing it only because they have to because they are down and out.
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#334 Renevent42
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[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

You can say you are correct until you are blue in the face, but that does make it so.

Also, you take this internet bussiness pretty seriously. "War of the intellects." lol. Weirdo.

GreySeal9

Here you are continuing to talk shit though? You are full of crap...you have nothing of value to say and simply acting like a child spouting insults.

Of course I'm talking sh!t. Why? Because you are not only a dumb ass, but you are a dumb ass with delusions about your own intelligence.

It's really funny how serious you're getting about this tho. The only thing I said was "Good lord Renevent is dense" and you got sooooo bent out of the shape that you started talking about who is more successful and a "war of the inellects". :lol:

I'm riled up? Here you are for like the 5th page back and fourth with me in a conversation you had absolutely nothing to do with. It's you who needs to take a breath.
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#335 Renevent42
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[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

You can say you are correct until you are blue in the face, but that does make it so.

Also, you take this internet bussiness pretty seriously. "War of the intellects." lol. Weirdo.

ghoklebutter
Here you are continuing to talk shit though? You are full of crap...you have nothing of value to say and simply acting like a child spouting insults.

lol irony

I've been actually arguing fairly politely for most of this...the insults didn't come out until people started insulting me. If people would be polite, I would be polite in kind. Anyways you are just as dumb as the others.
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#336 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Renevent42"] Here you are continuing to talk shit though? You are full of crap...you have nothing of value to say and simply acting like a child spouting insults.Renevent42

Of course I'm talking sh!t. Why? Because you are not only a dumb ass, but you are a dumb ass with delusions about your own intelligence.

It's really funny how serious you're getting about this tho. The only thing I said was "Good lord Renevent is dense" and you got sooooo bent out of the shape that you started talking about who is more successful and a "war of the inellects". :lol:

I'm riled up? Here you are for like the 5th page back and fourth with me in a conversation you had absolutely nothing to do with. It's you who needs to take a breath.

You are mad that I called you dense, which is fine because nobody likes to be insulted. But to start talking about a "war of the intellects" and to compare "success" with an anonymous person on the internet is pretty weird, dude. :? You should probably stop being so insecure.

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#337 Renevent42
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[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Of course I'm talking sh!t. Why? Because you are not only a dumb ass, but you are a dumb ass with delusions about your own intelligence.

It's really funny how serious you're getting about this tho. The only thing I said was "Good lord Renevent is dense" and you got sooooo bent out of the shape that you started talking about who is more successful and a "war of the inellects". :lol:

GreySeal9

I'm riled up? Here you are for like the 5th page back and fourth with me in a conversation you had absolutely nothing to do with. It's you who needs to take a breath.

You are mad that I called you dense, which is fine because nobody likes to be insulted. But to start talking about a "war of the intellects" and to compare "success" with an anonymous person on the internet is pretty weird, dude. :? You should probably stop being so insecure.

Dude, you made your own insults and you started the whole thing. If anyone is guilty of being riled up, it's you. Why else interject your insults in a conversation that had nothing to do with you?
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Btw its funny that we're describing all sorts of sexual stuff, yet the word t*ts and sh*t are still censored.

Gotta watch out for the kids. Those asterisks sure make the whole thing more proper. >__>

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#339 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Renevent42"] I'm riled up? Here you are for like the 5th page back and fourth with me in a conversation you had absolutely nothing to do with. It's you who needs to take a breath.Renevent42

You are mad that I called you dense, which is fine because nobody likes to be insulted. But to start talking about a "war of the intellects" and to compare "success" with an anonymous person on the internet is pretty weird, dude. :? You should probably stop being so insecure.

Dude, you made your own insults and you started the whole thing. If anyone is guilty of being riled up, it's you. Why else interject your insults in a conversation that had nothing to do with you?

Riled up?

He was just making observations dude.

Stop injecting meaning into simple words. e5054228.gif

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#340 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Renevent42"] I'm riled up? Here you are for like the 5th page back and fourth with me in a conversation you had absolutely nothing to do with. It's you who needs to take a breath.Renevent42

You are mad that I called you dense, which is fine because nobody likes to be insulted. But to start talking about a "war of the intellects" and to compare "success" with an anonymous person on the internet is pretty weird, dude. :? You should probably stop being so insecure.

Dude, you made your own insults and you started the whole thing. If anyone is guilty of being riled up, it's you. Why else interject your insults in a conversation that had nothing to do with you?

Simple: if somebody is being a habitual dumb ass, I point it out. 

In any case, regardless of my insults, why do you think this is a "war of the intellects"? Why do you feel the need to compare your success in life with anonymous people on the internet? Taking the internet so seriously and being that insecure is very very weird and is something that you should probably sort out. For your own sake.

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#341 cain006
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if you are getting head from a trans person that is extremely convincing and you are attracted to her because of the female features, you are having homosexual sex, but that doesn't necessarily make you homosexual. if the fact that the trans person is actually a man is what your attracted to then you are having homosexual sex and are homosexual.

if a person specifically and continually seeks out trans then they are probably homosexual. but if a person finds themselves attracted to a trans because of the feminine aspects and find out and decides to let it happen and not continue to seek out the same situation in the future, that does not make them homosexual. sexuality is not as black and white as people seem to think it is.

there is experimentation, exploring, confused feeling, many situations one could be part of non forced homosexual activities without out actually being homosexual.

MuD3

So you think that you're having real straight sex but in reality you're having fake gay sex? Er wait I mean you think you're having fake straight sex but actually having real gay sex? I'm confused.

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#343 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

You are mad that I called you dense, which is fine because nobody likes to be insulted. But to start talking about a "war of the intellects" and to compare "success" with an anonymous person on the internet is pretty weird, dude. :? You should probably stop being so insecure.

Teenaged

Dude, you made your own insults and you started the whole thing. If anyone is guilty of being riled up, it's you. Why else interject your insults in a conversation that had nothing to do with you?

Riled up?

He was just making observations dude.

Stop injecting meaning into simple words. e5054228.gif

Yep. I did the research and the hypothesis that Renevent is a dumb ass proved to be correct.

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#344 Renevent42
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[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

You are mad that I called you dense, which is fine because nobody likes to be insulted. But to start talking about a "war of the intellects" and to compare "success" with an anonymous person on the internet is pretty weird, dude. :? You should probably stop being so insecure.

GreySeal9

Dude, you made your own insults and you started the whole thing. If anyone is guilty of being riled up, it's you. Why else interject your insults in a conversation that had nothing to do with you?

Simple: if somebody is being a habitual dumb ass, I point it out. 

In any case, regardless of my insults, why do you think this is a "war of the intellects"? Why do you feel the need to compare your success in life with anonymous people on the internet? Taking the internet so seriously and being that insecure is very very weird and is something that you should probably sort out. For your own sake.

Considering I am correct on all points, no. You simply wanted to insult someone you disagreed with, and did so because you had nothing of value to add. Probably because of stupidity, who knows though.
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#345 Renevent42
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[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

You are mad that I called you dense, which is fine because nobody likes to be insulted. But to start talking about a "war of the intellects" and to compare "success" with an anonymous person on the internet is pretty weird, dude. :? You should probably stop being so insecure.

Teenaged

Dude, you made your own insults and you started the whole thing. If anyone is guilty of being riled up, it's you. Why else interject your insults in a conversation that had nothing to do with you?

Riled up?

He was just making observations dude.

Stop injecting meaning into simple words. e5054228.gif

He's been arguing with me for pages and doing (almost) nothing but insulting me...yeah...he's just casually making observations. Uh-huh.
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#346 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Renevent42"] Dude, you made your own insults and you started the whole thing. If anyone is guilty of being riled up, it's you. Why else interject your insults in a conversation that had nothing to do with you? Renevent42

Simple: if somebody is being a habitual dumb ass, I point it out. 

In any case, regardless of my insults, why do you think this is a "war of the intellects"? Why do you feel the need to compare your success in life with anonymous people on the internet? Taking the internet so seriously and being that insecure is very very weird and is something that you should probably sort out. For your own sake.

Considering I am correct on all points, no. You simply wanted to insult someone you disagreed with, and did so because you had nothing of value to add. Probably because of stupidity, who knows though.

Just like you right now responding only to the personal aspect of the argument rather than the argument itself?

I mean, I'm not gonna pretend I didnt insult and sticked strictly to the argument, but I'd expect you to refrain from it too...

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#347 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Renevent42"] Dude, you made your own insults and you started the whole thing. If anyone is guilty of being riled up, it's you. Why else interject your insults in a conversation that had nothing to do with you? Renevent42

Riled up?

He was just making observations dude.

Stop injecting meaning into simple words. e5054228.gif

He's been arguing with me for pages and doing (almost) nothing but insulting me...yeah...he's just casually making observations. Uh-huh.

Yes exactly.

He's definitely itt for fewer pages than you are.

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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Renevent42"] Dude, you made your own insults and you started the whole thing. If anyone is guilty of being riled up, it's you. Why else interject your insults in a conversation that had nothing to do with you? Renevent42

Simple: if somebody is being a habitual dumb ass, I point it out. 

In any case, regardless of my insults, why do you think this is a "war of the intellects"? Why do you feel the need to compare your success in life with anonymous people on the internet? Taking the internet so seriously and being that insecure is very very weird and is something that you should probably sort out. For your own sake.

Considering I am correct on all points, no. You simply wanted to insult someone you disagreed with, and did so because you had nothing of value to add. Probably because of stupidity, who knows though.

I think it's about time that you stop being angry about my insult. It's the internet. It happens.

What's funny is that you couldn't actually refute my argument.

My argument:

"Orientation and sexual acts usually go hand in hand, but not always."

Is this not true?

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#349 Renevent42
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[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Simple: if somebody is being a habitual dumb ass, I point it out. 

In any case, regardless of my insults, why do you think this is a "war of the intellects"? Why do you feel the need to compare your success in life with anonymous people on the internet? Taking the internet so seriously and being that insecure is very very weird and is something that you should probably sort out. For your own sake.

Teenaged

Considering I am correct on all points, no. You simply wanted to insult someone you disagreed with, and did so because you had nothing of value to add. Probably because of stupidity, who knows though.

Just like you right now responding only to the personal aspect of the argument rather than the argument itself?

I mean, I'm not gonna pretend I didnt insult and sticked strictly to the argument, but I'd expect you to refrain from it too...

If you go back, I've argued politely with everyone who was respectful with me. You guys started the heavy insults.  I'm more than happy to have a nice polite discussion, though it doesn't seem any of you are capable and instead want to act like a bunch of school ground children.

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#350 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Renevent42"] Dude, you made your own insults and you started the whole thing. If anyone is guilty of being riled up, it's you. Why else interject your insults in a conversation that had nothing to do with you? Renevent42

Riled up?

He was just making observations dude.

Stop injecting meaning into simple words. e5054228.gif

He's been arguing with me for pages and doing (almost) nothing but insulting me...yeah...he's just casually making observations. Uh-huh.

Just because you take the internet too seriously (to the point that you'd compare "success" with an anonymous forum poster) doesn't mean you have to drag me into your weirdness.