So the situation in Israel...

Nicole Zedek reported that, not Bel Trew.

Oops.

Your position now is "lets back the terrorists". If you don't like that label, stop making that point.

"Ethnic cleansing", huh? I don't care whatyou call it. They support terrorist groups and need to be held accountable.

The problem with people like you is that you think world issues can always be resolved by diplomacy - despite that history has proven 100s of times over-and-over again that it's not the case. People willing to blow themselves up in the name of God, and take as many innocent people as they can with them as they can, are not people you can have rational diplomatic relations with - the same is true for people who fire "holy rockets" into civilian neighborhoods, or use children as human shields.

@dabear: Here we go again...

The "40 beheaded babies" story was denied by US officials, the Israeli army, and the reporter who broke the story:

The IDF hasn't even seen the decapitated babies, yet you expect us to believe some random journalist has? 😂

And like I said before:

Like I already said:

Glad you finally admit you're a genocidal maniac.

But I agree you can't reason with genocidal maniacs. As we can see here, Netanyahu is bragging about being a genocidal maniac and has no intention of ever making peace:

You can't reason with insane genocidal warmongers like Netanyahu.

This thread is getting heated.😄

By the way, anyone believes that Israel didn't knew anything about this operation?

And the Palestinians firing rockets into civilian targets didn't break the Oslo Accords? To be honest, it should be painful on the Palestinians when terrorist attacks happen by groups they overwhelmingly support. There absolutely should be consequences for those actions.

You have a really f****d up, unrealistic view of the world, bro.

Here's a fun fact for ya - despite your support of those terrorists, they still hate your guts. They still think you are the Great Satan, and should be wiped off the planet.

@dabear: So what you're saying is that by voting on a government that seeks to destroy Palestine, Israeli civilians deserve to suffer.

Should we apply it to the US too? Most Americans support one of two parties that are responsible of destroying whole countries, do American citizens deserve to suffer like Palestinians?

I'm sorry to say this but you seem to be part of the problem. You're having an emotional reaction to the news, and allowing yourself to be emotionally manipulated into rationalizing genocide.

You're completely clueless about the history of the conflict. Netanyahu broke the Oslo Accords during his first term in the late 1990s. Back then, it was the secular Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), jointly founded by Palestinian Christians and Muslims, which represented the Palestinian people. Netanyahu's betrayal of the PLO is what led to the rise of Hamas in the first place! So the fault lies with Netanyahu.

As I know far more about world history than you, I have a very realistic view of the world. You have a very unrealistic view of the world, because you're too emotional and incapable of thinking rationally. For every action, there are consequences. As I said earlier in the thread:

FYI, I don't support Hamas. I support Palestinians. Stop conflating Palestinians with Hamas, bigot.

Another update on the "40 beheaded babies" hoax:

CNN and even the Israeli government are now denying it!

It never ceases to amaze how many braindead sheep keep falling for the same propaganda over and over again. You'd think we already learnt our lesson from the "weapons of mass destruction" propaganda, yet there's no shortage of braindead sheep who'll believe whatever is fed to them by the propaganda machine.

But it's too late now. The damage is already done. The Palestinians in Gaza are already suffering the consequences over a hoax... This is why misinformation is so dangerous.

@Jag85: To recap:

Jag's name is appropriate, as he:

1) condone's terrorism

2) Supports people who want to kill us over a country that is a strong ally

3) Thinks you can have diplomatic relations with people who honor suicide bombers.

4)Thinks that atrocities are fake because a journalist who didn't report them, affirms that she didn't report them

Did I miss anything?

I'm sorry but what did I wander into here. HAMAS is a terrorist organization and no one should be cheering this. They hate Israel and they don't give a damn about Palestinians.

@kathaariancode: I think... you may be responding to the wrong person.

@dabear: I'm sure you think so.

@kathaariancode: Bro, I'm pro-Israel. WTF are you talking about????

@dabear: Ohh... I see.

Yeah, take that pri-Palestine, pro-Hamas attitude and shove it up your backside, buddy.

@Jag85: As I linked before, the journalist who reported it is sticking by her story.

Keep sticking up for the terrorists, you sick #$%&!

@dabear: Exactly

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dabear:

1) Condones state terrorism, while false accusing the opposition of condoning terrorism.

2) Supports people who perpetrate ethnic cleansing and advocate genocide.

3) Thinks you can have diplomatic relations with people who perpetrate ethnic cleansing and advocate genocide.

4) Has poor reading comprehension, as I clearly stated: "CNN and even the Israeli government are now denying it!" The same Israeli government you are defending.

@Jag85: No, that s not what you are doing. You're defending Hamas.

Every ruling body of the Paleatinians are interest in one thing: the removal of all Jews from the Holy Land. I don't don't know whwere the Hell you got your "facts" from, but you really have your head up your ass.

Remember this conversation when it's your family that suffers loss from terrorism, d***head.

I'm out.

@dabear:

1) Palestinians =/= Hamas. You can support Palestinians while condemning Hamas at the same time.

2) Yet more lies. The secular Fatah (PLO) party never claimed any such thing. Only Hamas held that position... yet Hamas was ironically created by Israel to undermine the secular PLO. Hamas is a Frankenstein monster created by Israel.

3) Palestinian families have suffered far greater losses from Zionist terrorism for decades. You're clearly just a racist c**t who doesn't see Palestinians/Arabs as humans.

4) Good bye.

@Jag85: Just to be clear, Israel reacts to attacks in their country from HAMAS. HAMAS has been the aggressor. They also use the Palestinians. To be clear though, HAMAS is one of their political parties. Maybe they should stop voting for them. HAMAS isn't doing very well for them. Opposite in fact.

@LJS9502_basic: Israel is the instigator. Netanyahu said it himself:

• Israel created Hamas to undermine the secular PLO in the late '80s.
• Netanyahu betrayed the PLO and broke the Oslo Accords in the late '90s, as he had no intention of ever returning Palestinian land.
• Netanyahu made his intentions very clear in the early 2000s that Israel would instigate multiple wars to make the Palestinians suffer and steal their land.

And this was all before Hamas rose to power in the late 2000s, after which the Gazans never even had the opportunity to vote them out as there was never any election after that.

It makes no difference whether Palestinians are ruled by the secular PLO or the more extreme Hamas. Israel will undermine Palestinian independence and make the Palestinians suffer any way they can. Palestinians are powerless. Israel has all the power.

@Jag85: Bro, they are just saying they cannot confirm it (yet).

You keep saying "Israel is the aggressor! Israel is the aggressor!" Who the f**k fired first a few days ago?!?!?!!!

Again: head up your butt .

ISRAEL CREATED HAMAS?!?!!! Does Ahmed Yassin know that?

That land isn't the Palestinians, it's Israel.

Exactly why should Israel give anything to the Palestinians? Why? What the f**k do they owe the Palestinians?

@dabear:

Unsubstantiated news = Fake news

Netanyahu himself admitted Israel is the aggressor in every conflict with the Palestinians. And before the Hamas attack last weekend, Israel was attacking Palestinians for months leading up to that.

Your head is far up Israel's arse.

How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas

"Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel's creation," says Mr. Cohen, a Tunisian-born Jew who worked in Gaza for more than two decades. Responsible for religious affairs in the region until 1994, Mr. Cohen watched the Islamist movement take shape, muscle aside secular Palestinian rivals and then morph into what is today Hamas, a militant group that is sworn to Israel's destruction.

The land was called Palestine up until 1947. Even Jews were calling it Palestine back then. They didn't start calling it Israel until the 1947 UN Partition Plan.

Israel is breaking international law by occupying Palestinian land.

@Jag85: As she put it: " do you really want to see pictures of decapitated babies?"

BRO... your interpretation of that snippet is... laughable. Like, I actually laughed when I just read it l.

There has never been an official country called "Palestine". IDK where you get your info, buy it is just plain wrong.

Keep supporting those terrorists...

According to a former CIA officer, Netanyahu knew about 9/11 and the Hamas attack:

Israel is a great ally to the US, allowing 9/11 to happen and over 3,000 Americans to be killed. Just like how Saudi Arabia was a great ally to the US, allowing its citizens to participate in 9/11... Israel and Saudi Arabia are such great friends to the US!

@dabear:

Pics or it didn't happen.

The creation of Hamas was funded by Israel. Deal with it.

Learn some history. The country was literally called Palestine up until 1947.

Yeah, keep supporting those Zionist terrorists.

@dabear: So true. The Palestinians aren’t interested in peace. They never have been. They’re only interested in the destruction of Israel.

@Jag85: Before it was named Palestine by the Roman’s who wanted to punish the people of Judea? Yeah, no.

@texasgoldrush: I lived in Israel for 15 years and I’m Jewish. There is no Arab discrimination in the country.

Please make sense.

@Jag85: Bro - read some. there was never a country called "Palestine". It was used as the name of a region, like how the center of the US is called "the mid-west".

Hamas was NEVER funded by Israel, you buffoon.

"Zionist terrorists" who's f**king racist????

@Jag85: Israel did not create HAMAS. FYI HAMAS rejects the two state idea and works against it. They also want to eradicate all non believers. But sure, stand up to the terrorists that use Palestinian as shields. HAMAS attacked civilians. They killed the elderly and children. And you stand up for them? Disgusting.

@dabear:

That's quite literally what a "country" means, a region of land. If you mean a nation-state, the concept of a nation-state didn't exist until modern times. In pre-modern times, most of the world was ruled by empires. The empires that ruled the "Holy Land" called it "Palestine" or "Falastin" for the last 2,000 years.

How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas

"Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel's creation," says Mr. Cohen, a Tunisian-born Jew who worked in Gaza for more than two decades. Responsible for religious affairs in the region until 1994, Mr. Cohen watched the Islamist movement take shape, muscle aside secular Palestinian rivals and then morph into what is today Hamas, a militant group that is sworn to Israel's destruction.

Instead of trying to curb Gaza's Islamists from the outset, says Mr. Cohen, Israel for years tolerated and, in some cases, encouraged them as a counterweight to the secular nationalists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and its dominant faction, Yasser Arafat's Fatah. Israel cooperated with a crippled, half-blind cleric named Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, even as he was laying the foundations for what would become Hamas.

Zionism is an ideology, not a race. It's an ideology you clearly believe in, which makes you a Zionist regardless of your race.

@LJS9502_basic:

It's a fact. Deal with it.

How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas

"Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel's creation," says Mr. Cohen, a Tunisian-born Jew who worked in Gaza for more than two decades. Responsible for religious affairs in the region until 1994, Mr. Cohen watched the Islamist movement take shape, muscle aside secular Palestinian rivals and then morph into what is today Hamas, a militant group that is sworn to Israel's destruction.

Instead of trying to curb Gaza's Islamists from the outset, says Mr. Cohen, Israel for years tolerated and, in some cases, encouraged them as a counterweight to the secular nationalists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and its dominant faction, Yasser Arafat's Fatah. Israel cooperated with a crippled, half-blind cleric named Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, even as he was laying the foundations for what would become Hamas.

Netanyahu also rejects the two-state idea and works against it.

They also want to eradicate all non believers.

Zionists want to eradicate all Palestinians from Gaza and the West Bank.

terrorists that use Palestinian as shields.

That's what Israelis do.

HAMAS attacked civilians.

Both Israel and Hamas attack civilians. Israel attacks them in far greater numbers. Why the selective outrage?

They killed the elderly and children.

Israel kills the elderly and children in far greater numbers. Again, why the selective outrage?

And you stand up for them? Disgusting.

Yet here you are simping for Israel, a genocidal regime that has ethnically cleansed hundreds of thousands. Oh please, spare me the crocodile tears.

@Jag85: I can't believe I am having a debate with someone who thinks Israel created Hamas, and is defending terrorist organizations.

Are you punking me? Is there a hidden camera somewhere?

@Jag85: Nothing you posted says what you think it says.

At least there's the positive of seeing a user that defends the genocide of Palestinians, other that wants Russia to save Ukraine and a liberal agreeing on something.

@dabear:

"Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel's creation." That's the words of a former Israel official. Israel helped create Hamas the same way America helped create the Taliban.

Israel and Hamas are both terrorists. Two sides of the same coin.

@Jag85: For Christ's sake...

That is the same thing as saying that the USA "created" al Qaeda because they were formed in retaliation for us putting a military base in Saudi Arabia.

By your asinine interpretation ,that means we went out and recruited a bunch of terrorists, gave them a cave, named th3 al Qaeda, and set them lose.

Your head is UP YOUR A$$.

Israel responds to terrorist attacks with military force. Before you go making asinine comments like "Israel are terrorists" maybe take a moment and f**king educate yourself.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/casualties-in-suicide-and-other-bombing-attacks-in-israel-since-the-declaration-of-principles

@dabear:

It's well-known the CIA were involved in the creation of the Mujahedeen (later Taliban), in order to fight the Soviets. Likewise, Israel facilitated the rise of Hamas, in order to divide and rule the Palestinians. The secular PLO were becoming influential, so the Israelis needed Hamas as a rival faction to weaken the PLO.

Your head is far up Israel's arse. Israel is not "responding" to terrorist attacks. Israel is the one instigating terrorist attacks. Once again, Netanyahu confessed to this himself:

Israel are the biggest terrorists in the Levant region. The numbers speak for themselves:

@Jag85: Yes, because in your melon military actions against terrorist are the sane thing as a suicide bomber in a bus.

Bro, shut your piehole.

@dabear: Nah, it's not the same thing... Launching an airstrike into a residential building with hundreds of people is far deadlier than suicide bombing a bus with dozens of people.

Hang on, didn't you just say...

What are you still doing here? Scram, boy!

@Jag85: Hamas is a major political party in Palestine. There are many Palestinians that support Hamas. Hamas is indiscriminately launching rockets into Israel hoping to kill Israelis. They March through the streets executing men woman and children. They take many as hostages.

They then hide in palestine.. in thier hospitals and schools.

Using the civilians as a human shield.. hoping it will protect themselves from retaliation.

WELL... I must say if I lived in Palestine. If i was an innocent Palestinian... I would say Hamas is a really shitty organization.. that's getting us killed.. maybe Palestinians need to stomp out hamas themselves. Because this organization. This political party in thier country. This "political party" in thier country... is literally causing Israel to drop bombs on them...

Israel has 100% THE RIGHT to respond to this attack by Hamas.

If Palestinians don't want to be used as human shields for Hamas. Maybe kill Hamas yourself.

@robertos: lmfao.. whatever you say LJS. You misquoted me as someone else AGAIN... lol. Someone else said the first thing, and at that point it's hard to take anyone arguing with me seriously any more.

There is no way in hell two different people don't know how forums work... I mean it's the same shit... the exact same thing.

If you want to try and look more convincing then at least make sure you're talking to the right person... it's like I'm dealing with a schizophrenic.

You just can't help yourself.

Just say you misread the thread LJS.

It wasn't WitisWisdoms words. It was someone else posting @him.

Wasn't his statement, it was the ENI guy

Has nothing to do with his continued childish insults though does it?