Schoolgirl is 'trolled to death' at ask.fm

Victim blaming at full force here at GS.

loco145

I don't blame the girl.  I blame the person who killed her.

What kind of job have these parents been doing if all it takes is some name calling on the internet to cause her to commit suicide. She clearly had bigger emotional/mental problems then just online bullying.Diablo-B

^ The above posters are people who live in a different world

Alot of teens make ask fm and you know the risk of making an account like that where anonymous people are able to see the your profile. If you can't handle the questions you get then you really shouldn't make one or just delete it.

And thats the option this girl had, she could have simply deleted it and would have never had to see comments like "kill yourself" again. She chose to stay. It takes like 15 seconds to actually DEACTIVATE YOUR ACCOUNT.

So don't entirely blame these online bullies when you invite them to do the bullying, it aint right

If you're thinking about suicide,never try to hang yourself! Just even messing with a rope around your neck is very dangerous and you can easily apply a blood choke that for most people will knock you in less than 10 seconds.killzowned24

Why would you say never try it?  Sounds like a very effective method.

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]If you're thinking about suicide,never try to hang yourself! Just even messing with a rope around your neck is very dangerous and you can easily apply a blood choke that for most people will knock you in less than 10 seconds.Oleg_Huzwog

Why would you say never try it?  Sounds like a very effective method.

[QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

people take things waayy too seriously.

i kinda dont really feel any sadness with stories like these anymore.

oh noes, an anonomous person was mean to me on the internet! i have nothing left to live for now!

hydralisk86

Yep.  In cases like these, the online bullying is rarely the only part of the story.  It usually extends to "real life" bullying as well, and certain people are going to be more sensitive to it than others.  You have to be in a pretty bad place to actually go through with killing yourself.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Serraph105"]

I don't know if this is real or not given that it's the daily mail we discussing, but it's sad to me that there are so many here that couldn't care less about death of a young girl.......I'm not sure I like this place as much as I used too.

MrGeezer

Agreed.  It was completely unnecessary for this girl to kill herself over some hurtful comments.  But it was also completely unnecessary for those remarks to be delivered in the first place.  If we're going to blame the parents of the 14 year old girl for not paying enough attention, what about the parents who permit (and in some cases encourage) their kids to be bullies?

Exactly what is accomplished by going out of your way to make some stranger feel poorly about him/herself? 

Less than a fortnight before her body was found early last Friday, Hannah begged her tormentors who can hide behind a cloak of anonymity on the site to stop the abuse.Article

[QUOTE="XilePrincess"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

 

^^This. Cuberbullying is far different from real bullying.

turtlethetaffer

That makes sense, too.  I still think cyberbullying is different though... Most of the time it's from completely anonymous people, so I don't see why anyone should care what they think.  Plus it's much, much, much easier to avoid.  simply don't go on that website.  bullying IRL is a lot tougher to deal with.

They really should teach kids at school never to use your real name on the internet

This is why people think video games cause violence. If the government wants to do a study on video games and violence all they have to do is go on a video game forum.

[QUOTE="Diablo-B"]What kind of job have these parents been doing if all it takes is some name calling on the internet to cause her to commit suicide. She clearly had bigger emotional/mental problems then just online bullying.JustBeYourself

You hit the nail on the head. OT loves to judge people for some reason.

people take things waayy too seriously.

i kinda dont really feel any sadness with stories like these anymore.

oh noes, an anonomous person was mean to me on the internet! i have nothing left to live for now!

konvikt_17

Unfortunately this is as truth as it could be. People are silly nowadays. You can't please everyone, and I wouldn't certainly give two f*cks about anonymous people online because trolls are everywhere and people will always like to mess up.

[quote="Article"]Less than a fortnight before her body was found early last Friday, Hannah begged her tormentors who can hide behind a cloak of anonymity on the site to stop the abuse.-Toshy-

Wow, I knew there were some cold people on this site but I had no idea they were this rampant. The fact many of you aren't even ashamed speaks volumes on what kind of people you actually are, and that you're likely to use the " We're only joking" as a excuse also confirms how pathetic and disturbing you people are.Treflis

I'm sure as hell not joking.

Give me a valid reason why I should show sympathy. 

[QUOTE="loco145"]

Victim blaming at full force here at GS.

Oleg_Huzwog

I don't blame the girl.  I blame the person who killed her.

You sir have won the thread. 

Why didn't she just quit going to the site. This is kind of pathetic.

Wow such judgement here. She probably didn't have any friends IRL and used that site as a social outlet. RIP bobaban

Go to a different site then. Problem solved.

Wow such judgement here. She probably didn't have any friends IRL and used that site as a social outlet. RIP bobaban

A 14-year-old schoolgirl killed herself after being bullied by online trolls who told her to 'drink bleach' and 'go get cancer'.

Hannah Smith, from Lutterworth, Leicestershire, was found dead on Friday after being sent abusive messages on controversial website Ask.fm.

Less than a fortnight before her body was found early last Friday, Hannah begged her tormentors who can hide behind a cloak of anonymity on the site to stop the abuse.

After a barrage of abuse Hannah posted the handwritten message: 'You think you want to die but in reality you just want to be saved' on the day before she died.

Her devastated parents posted the terrible news online and attacked the social media site for not doing more to tackle bullies and called for it to be banned.

Hannah's father Dave Smith wrote on Facebook: 'On Friday morning my daughter was found hanged last night i seen her ask fm account and someone had been telling her to die.

'The person that created this web site should be done for mansluaghter (sic) any parents that have children please dont (sic) let them go on this site.'

Dave also posted a picture of flowers outside the family home and a mantelpiece of condolence cards next to the comment: 'the new pics for ask.fm.'

The heartbroken father added: 'My heart is broken in 2 and is gonna take along time to repair i just hope that none of you have to go through the pain im goin through rite now and love u all.

Source.

loco145

Exactly what is accomplished by going out of your way to make some stranger feel poorly about him/herself? 

pianist

Obviously this girl had other factors going on and this bullying was simply the match that lit the fuse.  If it wasn't ask.fm and those kids, it would have been something else, and probably something just as inconsequential.  Also taking into consideration that she could easily have just ignored the taunts leads me to believe that she was almost looking for a reaon to aid in carrying out her death wish.

The only stories that ever get posted about bullying, abuse and so called cyber bullying are the ones in which the victim kills themselves.  This is followed by news outlets reporting on how tragic the situation is, facebook pages set up in her memory and a tirade of comments about how beautiful and innocent  they were . This is not a good thing. The stories should be about people who were subject to abuse and depression whilst making it through their hardships and eventually leading a  happy life this is a MUCH better thing to promote to young people than showing them how much damn attention and love theyd get if they killed themselves. Instead, we use suicide to show the extreme effects of this abuse but this is NOT a good thing to promote on its own.

We get it. People can do stupid things because of words ; but we also need to show them theres ways out other than suicide. It is cowardly and should be seen as such, if not only for the benefit of all the people who feel terrible about themselves right now and are considering it. There are many other ways through hard times other than a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Suicide dumps everything on your friends and family and is actually quite selfish. It shows you dont care about what you do to others as long as youre not there to see the effects it has on the people around you. To be brought down to a level where you would do that may be devastating, but you must understand that it will negatively effect everyone around you in so many ways, too.

 We get it. People can do stupid things because of words ; but we also need to show them theres ways out other than suicide. It is cowardly and should be seen as such, if not only for the benefit of all the people who feel terrible about themselves right now and are considering it. There are many other ways through hard times other than a permanent solution to a temporary problem.Suicide dumps everything on your friends and family and is actually quite selfish. It shows you dont care about what you do to others as long as youre not there to see the effects it has on the people around you. To be brought down to a level where you would do that may be devastating, but you must understand that it will negatively effect everyone around you in so many ways, too.

firefluff3

It is cowardly and should be seen as suchfirefluff3

I don't know why this sh!tty adjective always get thrown around. Suicide is awful, but it is anything but cowardly. Given how much humans fear death, how does that even make sense?

[QUOTE="firefluff3"]It is cowardly and should be seen as suchGreySeal9

I don't know why this sh!tty adjective always get thrown around. Suicide is awful, but it is anything but cowardly. Given how much humans fear death, how does that even make sense?

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="firefluff3"]It is cowardly and should be seen as suchMirkoS77

I don't know why this sh!tty adjective always get thrown around. Suicide is awful, but it is anything but cowardly. Given how much humans fear death, how does that even make sense?

^ yeah, that - but considering the actual meaning of the word it doesn't really make sense :P

[QUOTE="Treflis"]Wow, I knew there were some cold people on this site but I had no idea they were this rampant. The fact many of you aren't even ashamed speaks volumes on what kind of people you actually are, and that you're likely to use the " We're only joking" as a excuse also confirms how pathetic and disturbing you people are.Jebus213

I'm sure as hell not joking.

Give me a valid reason why I should show sympathy. 

I don't know why this sh!tty adjective always get thrown around. Suicide is awful, but it is anything but cowardly. Given how much humans fear death, how does that even make sense?

GreySeal9

Some depth you put into your reasoning.

Because it's the easy way out, because it's the most extreme way of running away from problems, because it's an act done with no consideration for everyone she should have cared for?

Would you say a person who suicides over f*cking internet trolling is courageous?

[QUOTE="Diablo-B"]What kind of job have these parents been doing if all it takes is some name calling on the internet to cause her to commit suicide. She clearly had bigger emotional/mental problems then just online bullying.JustBeYourself

You say "sent her to counsellors" and then go on a whining spree about "what it means to be a parent"? Sounds like you're the one who has "no idea of real life".

The hell have councellors to do with anything? An even remotely decent parenting would have prevented this from happening. And like you said, there's no instant cure - just like suicide is no instant decision. Where have the parents been all this time?

An even remotely decent parenting would have prevented this from happening.N30F3N1X

Because it's the easy way out, because it's the most extreme way of running away from problems, because it's an act done with no consideration for everyone she should have cared for?

N30F3N1X

Well, what can I say... The loss of life is unfortunate. But I refuse to believe that mere name calling on the internet can drive a person to commit suicide (of course there's probably other factors involved. But, still...).

'The person that created this web site should be done for mansluaghter'

Her dad is also an idiot.

[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]An even remotely decent parenting would have prevented this from happening.JustBeYourself

[QUOTE="JustBeYourself"][QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]An even remotely decent parenting would have prevented this from happening.El_Zo1212o

I love all the calls in the newspapers for this site to be banned. One of the worst things about the UK and the principle reason why I'd never settle there; THIS MUST BE BANNED!!! culture. It's not like it's even the government, the media is always the primary source of BEGGING and petitioning the government to ban things they do not approve of. If the government in any other country tried to censor or block the internet, the media would push back against it as overstepping the mark into censorship. Here? The government gets *asked* to do it and criticised if it doesn't.

Parents need to take some damned responsibility for their kids. I get that the father is still traumatised from losing his daughter but the immediate decision to demand the government take action smacks of denial. He must know that deep down he failed on some level as a parent; his daughter wasn't just depressed, she was mentally unwell enough to hang herself and he knew/did nothing about it. The government is not there to ban everything which might cause some harm to some person at some time.

EDIT; thank you gamespot as per usual for deciding my neatly formatted paragraphs would read nicer in a huge chunk of text. 

[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"][QUOTE="JustBeYourself"][QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]An even remotely decent parenting would have prevented this from happening.LJS9502_basic