Jesus the Messiah, part God.

My question is for people who believe that Jesus was at least a prophet. I hear some people say that Jesus was a prophet and nothing more. My question to those believers are why do you feel this way, was he not fully explained as not only the messiah but being God as well? Or do you have a case against this?

Pretty sure they don't believe he was part God at all.Ace6301

Which is why I am asking the question to those who might feel this way. That is quite obvious.

lol at the premise

"How can you believe that he was only a prophet?"

As if that's a less reasonable stance to take

lol at the premise

"How can you believe that he wasonlya prophet?"

As if that's a less reasonable stance to take

-Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

lol at the premise

"How can you believe that he wasonlya prophet?"

As if that's a less reasonable stance to take

champion837

because jesus was a person. but since there are people who don't believe in god, they believe he was just some dude on LSDmrmusicman247

*Actually I don't think Charles actually killed anyone directly.

Because he screwed a whore. How could a god screw a whore? Unless the guy was Dionysus in disguise, that god was a playa.

I believe that Jesus Christ is the Messiah, but God is something different. They share a great deal in common, but all in all, God isn't a human. He's an entity larger than any one man being.

Because he screwed a whore. How could a god screw a whore? Unless the guy was Dionysus in disguise, that god was a playa.

theone86

Not sure if serious. If you are, how can you make that claim yet not say the Bible is a hot mess?

And to answer the question, never does Jesus actually claim he was the son of God. People called him that, but he never confirmed/denied it. I believe he was, due to the whole ascension/resurrection thing, but yeah.

Oh posthumous apotheosis...Zeviander

Jesus's death had the most amazing marketing team you can imagine behind it. Around 60CE they launched the greatest marketing campaign in history. Being religious, it was also the most compelling. lo_Pine

Ok. lol Don't know what that means.champion837

[QUOTE="champion837"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

lol at the premise

"How can you believe that he wasonlya prophet?"

As if that's a less reasonable stance to take

Jonwh18

[QUOTE="lo_Pine"]Jesus's death had the most amazing marketing team you can imagine behind it. Around 60CE they launched the greatest marketing campaign in history. Being religious, it was also the most compelling. champion837

[QUOTE="champion837"]Ok. lol Don't know what that means.Zeviander

[QUOTE="champion837"][QUOTE="lo_Pine"]Jesus's death had the most amazing marketing team you can imagine behind it. Around 60CE they launched the greatest marketing campaign in history. Being religious, it was also the most compelling. lo_Pine

Wow. Really? You can't explain what it means? No need to be condescending.champion837

[QUOTE="champion837"]Wow. Really? You can't explain what it means? No need to be condescending.Zeviander

could it have been something that spread like wildfire do to the fact that what he did actually occurred.champion837

He's just a very misunderstood simple desert man

My question is for people who believe that Jesus was at least a prophet. I hear some people say that Jesus was a prophet and nothing more. My question to those believers are why do you feel this way, was he not fully explained as not only the messiah but being God as well? Or do you have a case against this?

champion837

[QUOTE="champion837"] could it have been something that spread like wildfire do to the fact that what he did actually occurred.-Sun_Tzu-

I think he's as real as King Arthur.

You took the time to give me a website of a dictionary instead of telling me what it meant. There was no point to that.champion837

IT: TC makes topic asking about people who disagree with him, then gets upset at people in thread who disagree.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]I respect Atheists, like I respect every other belief, but may I ask a question. When you die, and if MY belief is true (I believe in a God), you will then meet him. What are you going to say? act? He won't be mad or anything that you didn't believe, but I just wonder what your reaction would be? (this question ISN'T to start a war debate about if God exists or not) Jonwh18

Fair enough. What if he responds "You weren't supposed to know yet" or "Mankind isn't ready for that knowledge yet"....?

Or even something better to think about, "I have proven I exist in some circunstances, you just didn't see it as that"?

[QUOTE="Jonwh18"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"]I respect Atheists, like I respect every other belief, but may I ask a question. When you die, and if MY belief is true (I believe in a God), you will then meet him. What are you going to say? act? He won't be mad or anything that you didn't believe, but I just wonder what your reaction would be? (this question ISN'T to start a war debate about if God exists or not) FelipeInside

Fair enough. What if he responds "You weren't supposed to know yet" or "Mankind isn't ready for that knowledge yet"....?

Or even something better to think about, "I have proven I exist in some circunstances, you just didn't see it as that"?

No offense, but the idea of Jesus being a God, part God, son of God, God in human form...etc is pretty absurd to me really. It simply does not make any sense whatsoever. Not to mention the "Jesus died for yours sins" thing.GazaAli

Jesus even on the least divine and inspired reading of the New testament was clearly more than a man. We are told in the new testament

- Jesus created the heavens and the earth

- Jesus has all power and authority on heaven and on earth.

- Jesus will personally judge all people.

- Jesus shares the divine name with God. YHWH.

No offense, but the idea of Jesus being a God, part God, son of God, God in human form...etc is pretty absurd to me really. It simply does not make any sense whatsoever. Not to mention the "Jesus died for yours sins" thing.GazaAli

So long as you take into consideration the terms and words used to define these doctrines, be it trinity, hypostatic union and the like these concepts make reasonable and logical sense. The only problem is getting people to understand the terminology behind them, that is of personhood, essences and distinctions between the two and the same.

[QUOTE="GazaAli"]No offense, but the idea of Jesus being a God, part God, son of God, God in human form...etc is pretty absurd to me really. It simply does not make any sense whatsoever. Not to mention the "Jesus died for yours sins" thing.FMAB_GTO

[QUOTE="GazaAli"]No offense, but the idea of Jesus being a God, part God, son of God, God in human form...etc is pretty absurd to me really. It simply does not make any sense whatsoever. Not to mention the "Jesus died for yours sins" thing.Philokalia

So long as you take into consideration the terms and words used to define these doctrines, be it trinity, hypostatic union and the like these concepts make reasonable and logical sense. The only problem is getting people to understand the terminology behind them, that is of personhood, essences and distinctions between the two and the same.

That is the point, their definitions are usually chaotic and contradicting that I don't buy it really. GazaAli

Contradicting how? Please demonstrate this.