Is this a deliberate insult against European Christians?

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#1 whipassmt
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Well the EU produced a diary calendar that they are distributing in European Schools. But there is a controversy: While The Calendar includes Jewish, Sikh, Buddhist and other holidays (including "Europe Day"), it does not mention ANY Christian holidays (for Instance Christmas merely appears as "December 25").

Oh well, I guess Christians aren't the only ones offended: The Eu spent 28 Million Euros on these calendars, so I imagine European taxpayers would be offended to.

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Well the EU produced a diary calendar that they are distributing in European Schools. But there is a controversy: While The Calendar includes Jewish, Sikh, Buddhist and other holidays (including "Europe Day"), it does not mention ANY Christian holidays (for Instance Christmas merely appears as "December 25").

Oh well, I guess Christians aren't the only ones offended: The Eu spent 28 Million Euros on these calendars, so I imagine European taxpayers would be offended to.

whipassmt

Feels like these days liberals act like christianity never existed . These P.C people have gone to far and need to stop. They avoid putting the biggest religion ever on their calender incase the very mention of christianity might hurt some ones feelings .

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#3 -Big_Red-
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I find it really strange that they completely exclude the biggest religion ever. Sound deliberate to me.
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#4 UnknownSniper65
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Seems pretty deliberate...they included all of those other religions and somehow managed to leave Christianity out.

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#5 hartsickdiscipl
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Wow.. That's actually scary to me.

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#6 dercoo
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Sounds pretty stupid.

To include the small minority religious holidays, but not the majority(or near) ones.

Especially not Christmas, a holiday that an overwhelming majority (religious or not) celebrate.

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#7 rockinplanes
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Oh my gosh.

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#8 Theokhoth
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It could have just been a typographical error, but who knows.
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#9 Ace6301
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Maybe they just assume that any European with any sort of a brain will know what day Christian holidays fall on.
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#10 whipassmt
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It could have just been a typographical error, but who knows.Theokhoth
except it wasn't just Christmas that wasn't mentioned, Easter or any other Christian holidays weren't mentioned, although Chinese festivities where mentioned (on a calendar designed for Europeans).

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#11 MattDistillery
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I'm European...... I don't care at all

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#12 coolbeans90
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Could be a large number of things. The obvious answer that witch hunters prefer would be a deliberate intention to leave Christian holidays out simply out of spite. Also could easily have been accidental while searching for obscure holidays. I like to not jump to conclusions.

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#13 rockinplanes
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]It could have just been a typographical error, but who knows.whipassmt

except it wasn't just Christmas that wasn't mentioned, Easter or any other Christian holidays weren't mentioned, although Chinese festivities where mentioned (on a calendar designed for Europeans).

Europe has more Muslims than Europeans so it's kind of practical.
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#15 Lonelynight
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That's just stupid...
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#16 whipassmt
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Sounds pretty stupid.

To include the small minority religious holidays, but not the majority(or near) ones.

Especially not Christmas, a holiday that an overwhelming majority (religious or not) celebrate.

dercoo

lol. The link I provided links to site that links to a site that says that if the EU didn't recognize Christmas as a holiday on their calendar than why were they not at work that day.

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#17 jimmyjammer69
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From what I gather, it's not a diary that lists important dates, but rather a planner, tailored to each EU member nation, with interesting facts given for each week. Among the facts on human trafficking and definitions of EU bodies are mentioned several events which pupils from the country might be unaware of.

To be fair, the whole booklet seems like a waste of time, but I wouldn't in any way consider what it purportedly does as an attack on Christianity.

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[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]It could have just been a typographical error, but who knows.rockinplanes

except it wasn't just Christmas that wasn't mentioned, Easter or any other Christian holidays weren't mentioned, although Chinese festivities where mentioned (on a calendar designed for Europeans).

Europe has more Muslims than Europeans so it's kind of practical.

Wait, what?

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#19 KlepticGrooves
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It's being distributed in schools, so I doubt many will look into it that much - and people know the dates anyway.

I doubt many will be offended though, most people I know buy calendars just for the pretty pictures of cars, women, wonders of the world and such like.

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#20 Treflis
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Well how many "ordinary" calenders with the christian holidays, have the holidays from other religions on it aswell?
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#21 osiris667
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[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]It could have just been a typographical error, but who knows.rockinplanes

except it wasn't just Christmas that wasn't mentioned, Easter or any other Christian holidays weren't mentioned, although Chinese festivities where mentioned (on a calendar designed for Europeans).

Europe has more Muslims than Europeans so it's kind of practical.

Too much time on /int

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#22 rockinplanes
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[QUOTE="rockinplanes"][QUOTE="whipassmt"]except it wasn't just Christmas that wasn't mentioned, Easter or any other Christian holidays weren't mentioned, although Chinese festivities where mentioned (on a calendar designed for Europeans).

osiris667

Europe has more Muslims than Europeans so it's kind of practical.

Too much time on /int

Never been there actually. I'm more interested in the perverted side of the board.
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#23 carrot-cake
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That is completely absurd. Does Christianity's holidays somehow insult everyone, but Judaism's or Islam's doesn't? Give me a break. As a non Christian I still find this absurd.

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#24 Steingrimur
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I am very European and I really can't see the problem here. It seems to me this calendar is about learning and understanding other peoples and their holidays, and not about mentioning holidays that are extremely obvious to the vast majority of Europe. Europeans are not as religious as... Any other part of the world, but we know our holidays, Christmas is for example my favourite time of the year, but I don't care if the calendar only mentions it on the 25th... I guess there will be some protest and a possible change of the calendar, but I won't shed a tear one way or the other.

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#25 Cataclism
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That is completely absurd. Does Christianity's holidays somehow insult everyone, but Judaism's or Islam's doesn't? Give me a break. As a non Christian I still find this absurd.

carrot-cake

My thoughts exactly. This is bull****. Political Correctness needs to die an ugly death.

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[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]It could have just been a typographical error, but who knows.rockinplanes

except it wasn't just Christmas that wasn't mentioned, Easter or any other Christian holidays weren't mentioned, although Chinese festivities where mentioned (on a calendar designed for Europeans).

Europe has more Muslims than Europeans so it's kind of practical.

Really?

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#27 fooZar777
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This doesn't seem like a problem to me.

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#28 svenus97
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Postscriptum: I verified. In fact the diary is distributed to schoolchildren all over Europe (not just the UK). 3.3 million copies have been produced at a cost of 28 million €.

I seriously doubt it will be distributed throughout entire Europe, I guess he thinks EU = Europe.

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#29 th3warr1or
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That's incredibly stupid.
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#30 htekemerald
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Solution, strip calenders of all religious hoplidays.

Problem solved.

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#31 M55M
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The thing that cracks me up is Muslims celebrate Christmas. Why to know a thing or 2 about Islam there/
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#32 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="rockinplanes"][QUOTE="whipassmt"]except it wasn't just Christmas that wasn't mentioned, Easter or any other Christian holidays weren't mentioned, although Chinese festivities where mentioned (on a calendar designed for Europeans).

pspdseagle

Europe has more Muslims than Europeans so it's kind of practical.

Really?

Yes, because Islam is a nationality.
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#33 rockinplanes
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[QUOTE="pspdseagle"]

[QUOTE="rockinplanes"] Europe has more Muslims than Europeans so it's kind of practical.Theokhoth

Really?

Yes, because Islam is a nationality.

No, Europeans are a religion.
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#34 M55M
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[QUOTE="pspdseagle"]

[QUOTE="rockinplanes"] Europe has more Muslims than Europeans so it's kind of practical.Theokhoth

Really?

Yes, because Islam is a nationality.

Some mark it as a their race.

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#35 PernicioEnigma
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Normally I think these controversy's are nothing, but that's pretty damn weird.
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#36 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="pspdseagle"]

Really?

M55M

Yes, because Islam is a nationality.

Some mark it as a their race.

Indeed; which is why Semites can't possibly be European.
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[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]It could have just been a typographical error, but who knows.rockinplanes

except it wasn't just Christmas that wasn't mentioned, Easter or any other Christian holidays weren't mentioned, although Chinese festivities where mentioned (on a calendar designed for Europeans).

Europe has more Muslims than Europeans so it's kind of practical.

Uhh no. Muslims are still a minority (albeit a growing one) in Europe and thus, the EU needs to include all holidays on the calendar, including Christian ones. If Muslims can't deal with it, then they need to move IMO.
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Most Europeans see the benefits the EU provides, while most are aware of the fact that the EU spends a whole bunch of money on needless things like this calendar. It's like living in a dysfunctional family, where nobody can agree on anything important, so everybody just runs around doing things for the sake of doing things.
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#39 rockinplanes
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[QUOTE="rockinplanes"][QUOTE="whipassmt"]except it wasn't just Christmas that wasn't mentioned, Easter or any other Christian holidays weren't mentioned, although Chinese festivities where mentioned (on a calendar designed for Europeans).

the_ChEeSe_mAn2

Europe has more Muslims than Europeans so it's kind of practical.

Uhh no. Muslims are still a minority (albeit a growing one) in Europe and thus, the EU needs to include all holidays on the calendar, including Christian ones. If Muslims can't deal with it, then they need to move IMO.

As we're the majority in Europe, we decide. And we decided that Christian holidays are not important. Deal with it.

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#40 Blu_Falcon37
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Now here's the big question... Who cares? If you don't like it, then don't use it. Problem solved.

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#41 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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[QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"][QUOTE="rockinplanes"] Europe has more Muslims than Europeans so it's kind of practical.rockinplanes

Uhh no. Muslims are still a minority (albeit a growing one) in Europe and thus, the EU needs to include all holidays on the calendar, including Christian ones. If Muslims can't deal with it, then they need to move IMO.

As we're the majority in Europe, we decide. And we decided that Christian holidays are not important. Deal with it.

Where is the proof?
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#42 rockinplanes
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[QUOTE="rockinplanes"]

[QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"] Uhh no. Muslims are still a minority (albeit a growing one) in Europe and thus, the EU needs to include all holidays on the calendar, including Christian ones. If Muslims can't deal with it, then they need to move IMO.the_ChEeSe_mAn2

As we're the majority in Europe, we decide. And we decided that Christian holidays are not important. Deal with it.

Where is the proof?

Well I don't need proof to say christian holidays are not important. It's not that they're bad, it's just that ours are better.
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#43 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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[QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"][QUOTE="rockinplanes"]

As we're the majority in Europe, we decide. And we decided that Christian holidays are not important. Deal with it.

rockinplanes

Where is the proof?

Well I don't need proof to say christian holidays are not important. It's not that they're bad, it's just that ours are better.

Right...I am just going to stop right here and avoid getting suspended should I decide to state my mind on religions and religious holidays.

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#44 rockinplanes
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[QUOTE="rockinplanes"][QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"] Where is the proof? the_ChEeSe_mAn2

Well I don't need proof to say christian holidays are not important. It's not that they're bad, it's just that ours are better.

Right...I am just going to stop right here and avoid getting suspended should I decide to state my mind on religions and religious holidays.

You can still find the right path.
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#45 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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That calendar was made by Richard Dawkins. :P

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#46 LustForSoul
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If you don't like the book you don't read it. Easy enough don't you think? Go read this portable bible or something, pretty sure you'll have one if you're christian.
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#47 MattDistillery
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Most Europeans see the benefits the EU provides, while most are aware of the fact that the EU spends a whole bunch of money on needless things like this calendar. It's like living in a dysfunctional family, where nobody can agree on anything important, so everybody just runs around doing things for the sake of doing things. Steingrimur

In reality the Benefits of the Eu are vast outweighed by the cons...I mean£7billion to Ireland from just the Uk, they got independance and thats what they are let them die an independant financial death so the can restructure there economy circa Iceland. Any country thats had a vote on joining the Euro at referendum has declined as they did on the Eu constitution and Lisbon treaty its not the will of the people but a political cass who have goals.

It should have stayed as a free trade zone and nothing more. I'm all for th UK leaving it.

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#48 LJS9502_basic
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Obvious a deliberate action. It's not a day that would easily skip one's mind.
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#49 Setsa
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That's just dumb and zealous.
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#50 dartboy2
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Seems impossible to be an accident. Their agenda is clear. Europe is one Godless country now.