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Poll Is Obama the best president ever? (92 votes)

Yes 22%
No 76%

Do you think Obama is the best president ever?

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#51 bforrester420
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@Serraph105 said:

George W. Bush was the greatest and Obama sucks.

I certainly hope this was sarcasm...

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#52 rgsniper1
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@elkoldo:

Used to be the 20 defending Obama.

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#53 plageus900
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@brimmul777 said:

Obama,the best president?In witch country?

I almost had a heart attack, sir.

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#54  Edited By Ariabed
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@AmazonTreeBoa: I'll stop crying when you stop bein a dumb ass retard who can't understand simple sentences.

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#55  Edited By Ariabed
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@AmazonTreeBoa: "Well isn't that cute. defending your girlfriend. Well good for you."

Just further proves your a retarded individual instead of aknowloging your mis understanding of my post, which was quite simple, you attack the guy that had to explain it to you with that lame ass school yard comment^^ grow the **** up. That is all

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#56  Edited By deactivated-5b78379493e12
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@jimkabrhel said:

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@jimkabrhel: so who was the best president? which president do you know that could please everyone all of the time?

Implying Obama pleases everybody. LOL What a fucking joke.

Reading comprehension is your friend. That's not what he was suggesting, rather the opposite. That no President could please everyone. But that's beside the point too. Obama isn't even pleasing the base that elected him, let alone the other side which is actively stonewalling hi at every turn.

Obama hasn't been helped by a useless Congress, but a good, dynamic President would find ways to overcome that, and not just let his/her agenda be sunk.

Well isn't that cute. defending your girlfriend. Well good for you.

Nice, intelligent, witty response there. About what I would expect.

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#57 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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As a kid in the 80s, I remember President Reagan fondly, as he had that winning Hollywood personality, and I knew enough about the world to realize that the developing peaceful relations with Gorbachev and the Soviet Union was welcome.

I never understood the scandals, particularly the Iran-Contra affair, or the small conflicts and wars that were a part of his Presidency. Not to mention Reaganomics, welfare Queens, etc.

I can understand how he's being put on a pedestal, but like many leaders, his legacy is being distorted by those who need to do it.

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#58  Edited By lamprey263
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no...

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#59  Edited By Ariabed
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@RadecSupreme: at the end of the day obama has taken on a tough job at a time where things are pretty bad, what with the greener energy issues financial issues, war issues, medical care issues etc. Obama is not going to solve all Americas problems by himself it's impossible he's not Batman, that government needs to work together but that will never happen they would rather let their petty differences get in the way of running the country. So yeh Obama is not doing very well George bush didn't do well and neither will the next president.

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#60 MakeMeaSammitch
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Yes, if you don't think so, you're racist.

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#62 RadecSupreme
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@AmazonTreeBoa said:

@jimkabrhel said:

@AmazonTreeBoa said:

@ariabed said:

@jimkabrhel: so who was the best president? which president do you know that could please everyone all of the time?

Implying Obama pleases everybody. LOL What a fucking joke.

Reading comprehension is your friend. That's not what he was suggesting, rather the opposite. That no President could please everyone. But that's beside the point too. Obama isn't even pleasing the base that elected him, let alone the other side which is actively stonewalling hi at every turn.

Obama hasn't been helped by a useless Congress, but a good, dynamic President would find ways to overcome that, and not just let his/her agenda be sunk.

Well isn't that cute. defending your girlfriend. Well good for you.

Troll or just irrational?

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#63  Edited By plageus900
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@MakeMeaSammitch said:

Yes, if you don't think so, you're racist.

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#64  Edited By Blue-Sky
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I would say Obama is mediocre by normal standards. But right now we're witnessing the worst congress in the history of America.

That scales his achievements by a considerable amount.

How would past presidents perform, if they had a Congress as dysfunctional?

- Imagine if all his budgets passed.
- Imagine if his American Jobs Act passed.
- Imagine if ACA didn't take a whole year.
- Imagine if ACA didn't have mandate but single payer system.
- Imagine if Citizen's United never happened.

A lot of "what ifs" when it comes to this congress.

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#65  Edited By Master_Live
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@Blue-Sky said:


- Imagine if all his budgets passed.

- Imagine if his American Jobs Act passed.

- Imagine if ACA didn't take a whole year.

- Imagine if ACA didn't have mandate but single payer system.


In total agreement. Imagine if we had a king, better yet if one of the parties on a two party system on a Democratic Constitutional Republic would just roll over for the party to drive right thru. A hell of an interpretation of divided government. GTFO.

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#66  Edited By MakeMeaSammitch
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@plageus900 said:

@MakeMeaSammitch said:

Yes, if you don't think so, you're racist.

lul

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#67 vl4d_l3nin
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@Master_Live said:

@Blue-Sky said:


- Imagine if all his budgets passed.

- Imagine if his American Jobs Act passed.

- Imagine if ACA didn't take a whole year.

- Imagine if ACA didn't have mandate but single payer system.


In total agreement. Imagine if we had a king, better yet if one of the parties on a two party system on a Democratic Constitutional Republic would just roll over for the party to drive right thru. A hell of an interpretation of divided government. GTFO.

He told you to imagine, and imagine you did.

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#68 Blue-Sky
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@vl4d_l3nin: Practicality is not a facet of these forums.

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LMAO no. Obama is the worst president since Jimmy Carter. He zero regard for the Constitution, has expanded the Government beyond it's Constitutional Limitations, shoe horned Obamacare onto people against their will, racked up trillions more in national debt, the guy is just a bad leader. Period. He should have been impeached after his involvement with Benghazi, but the Democrate controlled mainstream media tried to brush it under the rug and hide it from the public. If people were more aware there would be an outrage!

It's nothing though compared to what will happen if Hillary wins the White House. She is a socialist straight up and must be stopped, that is our main goal. If you think Obama is bad you haven't seen anything! I don't care who wins the GOP nominee, I would love to see Ted Cruz or Dr.Ben Carson, but whoever wins I will vote for them. Just hope it's not Jep Bush. Total RINO.

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#70  Edited By HailtotheQueen
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I like Obama to an extent but no. Lincoln was probably the best due to the impact he had on our society.

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#71 brimmul777
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@Primordialous said:

Anyone who says yes is fucking retarded.

I do agree with the meaning of your statement,retarted no,horrible U.S. president.YES.He has done next to nothing for leadership.The only thing that got him his presidency,is the fact of his color,not because he is a great leader.Because he is'nt.The Canadian Prime Minister S.Harper is ten times the leader then Obama was.For those who think Obama is so great,what is it he has done to make him the so called greatest U.S. president.I'm not judging him by his color,because I don't care what color,religion,race,or anything else you are,I'm giving you my opinion of him because of his uselessness.I think he is the bottom basement president.

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#72 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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@Primordialous said:

Anyone who says yes is fucking retarded.

I do agree with the meaning of your statement,retarted no,horrible U.S. president.YES.He has done next to nothing for leadership.The only thing that got him his presidency,is the fact of his color,not because he is a great leader.Because he is'nt.The Canadian Prime Minister S.Harper is ten times the leader then Obama was.For those who think Obama is so great,what is it he has done to make him the so called greatest U.S. president.I'm not judging him by his color,because I don't care what color,religion,race,or anything else you are,I'm giving you my opinion of him because of his uselessness.I think he is the bottom basement president.

I think the fact that the competition was so terrible was a bigger factor to his victory than his race. He's the best of the worst.

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#73 mjorh
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@plageus900 said:

@elkoldo said:

If the question is only concerning American presidents, well, I don't know.

But if it concerns all the presidents around the world in all ages, without the slightest doubt, Ahmadinejad is the best.

hahahahahahahahahahahaha.

I'm pretty sure most Iranians thought he was a piece of shit. Even the supreme leader, Ali Khamenei, seemed displeased with him.

Yeah we do , i think my friend was being sarcastic ...

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You should say which one is the "Worst" u know there is no good president...

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#74 mjorh
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This may be off topic but dunno what can affect Americans u know....haven't seen any American to be complaining about his country so it kinda doesn't matter who's the president or whatever ....

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#75 RoccoHout
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No, he sucks.

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@mjorh said:

@plageus900 said:

@elkoldo said:

If the question is only concerning American presidents, well, I don't know.

But if it concerns all the presidents around the world in all ages, without the slightest doubt, Ahmadinejad is the best.

hahahahahahahahahahahaha.

I'm pretty sure most Iranians thought he was a piece of shit. Even the supreme leader, Ali Khamenei, seemed displeased with him.

Yeah we do , i think my friend was being sarcastic ...

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You should say which one is the "Worst" u know there is no good president...

'course I was being sarcastic ! He was the sickest president history has ever seen.

I was on the street -Karimkhan bridge in Tehran- the night his goddamn kingdom was finally over.

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#77 brimmul777
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@toast_burner said:

@brimmul777 said:

@Primordialous said:

Anyone who says yes is fucking retarded.

I do agree with the meaning of your statement,retarted no,horrible U.S. president.YES.He has done next to nothing for leadership.The only thing that got him his presidency,is the fact of his color,not because he is a great leader.Because he is'nt.The Canadian Prime Minister S.Harper is ten times the leader then Obama was.For those who think Obama is so great,what is it he has done to make him the so called greatest U.S. president.I'm not judging him by his color,because I don't care what color,religion,race,or anything else you are,I'm giving you my opinion of him because of his uselessness.I think he is the bottom basement president.

I think the fact that the competition was so terrible was a bigger factor to his victory than his race. He's the best of the worst.

Your probably right.

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@christiangmr14 said:

LMAO no. Obama is the worst president since Jimmy Carter. He zero regard for the Constitution, has expanded the Government beyond it's Constitutional Limitations, shoe horned Obamacare onto people against their will, racked up trillions more in national debt, the guy is just a bad leader. Period. He should have been impeached after his involvement with Benghazi, but the Democrate controlled mainstream media tried to brush it under the rug and hide it from the public. If people were more aware there would be an outrage!

It's nothing though compared to what will happen if Hillary wins the White House. She is a socialist straight up and must be stopped, that is our main goal. If you think Obama is bad you haven't seen anything! I don't care who wins the GOP nominee, I would love to see Ted Cruz or Dr.Ben Carson, but whoever wins I will vote for them. Just hope it's not Jep Bush. Total RINO.

Yeah we've been at war for over a decade, the only reason republicans pretended to give a damn when those four people died was because they hoped they could benefit politically from it.

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@christiangmr14 said:

He zero regard for the Constitution, has expanded the Government beyond it's Constitutional Limitations.

Such as?

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@Serraph105 said:

@christiangmr14 said:

LMAO no. Obama is the worst president since Jimmy Carter. He zero regard for the Constitution, has expanded the Government beyond it's Constitutional Limitations, shoe horned Obamacare onto people against their will, racked up trillions more in national debt, the guy is just a bad leader. Period. He should have been impeached after his involvement with Benghazi, but the Democrate controlled mainstream media tried to brush it under the rug and hide it from the public. If people were more aware there would be an outrage!

It's nothing though compared to what will happen if Hillary wins the White House. She is a socialist straight up and must be stopped, that is our main goal. If you think Obama is bad you haven't seen anything! I don't care who wins the GOP nominee, I would love to see Ted Cruz or Dr.Ben Carson, but whoever wins I will vote for them. Just hope it's not Jep Bush. Total RINO.

Yeah we've been at war for over a decade, the only reason republicans pretended to give a damn when those four people died was because they hoped they could benefit politically from it.

It's not pretending to care, it's a direct violation of American safety abroad in foreign lands. Obama is a weak leader and his involvment calls for impeachment. All Americans should feel the same way. You want to talk about hypocrisy? Look no further than the liberals! They were bitching the whole time Bush was in office about the war (something I agreed with them on for the most part) but they completely ignore Obama for doing the same thing? We are still over there. Guantanamo is still open. And yet the liberal outrage that existed during the Bush years are oddly non-existent now. The liberal mainstream media keeps trying to brush Benghazi under the rug, but Obama and Hillary can't run from the truth forever.

If more Americans were aware, they would be in an outrage! As we all should be.

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I haven't been on the forums in 2 years and this is the first one I see. Maybe I shouldn't have come back to look. Seeing this makes me lose hope unless it is just a really good troll. Obama is a terrible president.....

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@MakeMeaSammitch: murder. the targeting of American citizens for death without due process.

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#83 LJS9502_basic
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Not even close....

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Yes :)

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I think in the future people will see whatever healthcare system we have and praise Obama/Obamacare for at least setting up the foundation for it. I'm guessing he'll be right in the middle of those academic polls ranking the presidents, somewhere in the 20-25 range

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#86  Edited By MakeMeaSammitch
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@surrealnumber5 said:

@MakeMeaSammitch: murder. the targeting of American citizens for death without due process.

example?

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@MakeMeaSammitch: Anwar al-Awlaki and his son in different air strikes, no that child did not deserve to be murdered because he was well tanned with curly hair.

how can a person who sucks so much obama dick know so little about him?

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@MakeMeaSammitch: Anwar al-Awlaki, no that child did not deserve to be murdered because he was well tanned with curly hair.

how can a person who sucks so much obama dick know so little about him?

He killed an islamic militant and that's somehow bad? He was a legit threat to others, and might have killed others if something wasn't done.

gez, you hate him so much you're defending terrorists. I guess if Osama bin ladin was a U.S. citizen you'd be crying that Seal team 6 killed him.

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@MakeMeaSammitch said:

@surrealnumber5 said:

@MakeMeaSammitch: Anwar al-Awlaki, no that child did not deserve to be murdered because he was well tanned with curly hair.

how can a person who sucks so much obama dick know so little about him?

He killed an islamic militant and that's somehow bad? He was a legit threat to others, and might have killed others if something wasn't done.

gez, you hate him so much you're defending terrorists. I guess if Osama bin ladin was a U.S. citizen you'd be crying that Seal team 6 killed him.

You could just concede the point since he was right. Obama did target an American citizen without due process.

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Obama didn't own slaves so he's at least better than that scumbag slave owner, George Washington.

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#91 MakeMeaSammitch
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@Master_Live said:

@MakeMeaSammitch said:

@surrealnumber5 said:

@MakeMeaSammitch: Anwar al-Awlaki, no that child did not deserve to be murdered because he was well tanned with curly hair.

how can a person who sucks so much obama dick know so little about him?

He killed an islamic militant and that's somehow bad? He was a legit threat to others, and might have killed others if something wasn't done.

gez, you hate him so much you're defending terrorists. I guess if Osama bin ladin was a U.S. citizen you'd be crying that Seal team 6 killed him.

You could just concede the point since he was right. Obama did target an American citizen without due process.

I guess, justified though.

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#92 surrealnumber5
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@MakeMeaSammitch: how can it by justified without due process?

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#93  Edited By MakeMeaSammitch
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@surrealnumber5 said:

@MakeMeaSammitch: how can it by justified without due process?

He could have and likely would have killed people if he wasn't delt with.

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#94  Edited By -Sun_Tzu-
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@MakeMeaSammitch said:

@surrealnumber5 said:

@MakeMeaSammitch: Anwar al-Awlaki, no that child did not deserve to be murdered because he was well tanned with curly hair.

how can a person who sucks so much obama dick know so little about him?

He killed an islamic militant and that's somehow bad? He was a legit threat to others, and might have killed others if something wasn't done.

gez, you hate him so much you're defending terrorists. I guess if Osama bin ladin was a U.S. citizen you'd be crying that Seal team 6 killed him.

His 16 year old son and 17 year old nephew were also killed 2 weeks later, along with 9 other civilians and an undisclosed number of alleged no-name Al Qaeda members.

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@-Sun_Tzu- said:

@MakeMeaSammitch said:

@surrealnumber5 said:

@MakeMeaSammitch: Anwar al-Awlaki, no that child did not deserve to be murdered because he was well tanned with curly hair.

how can a person who sucks so much obama dick know so little about him?

He killed an islamic militant and that's somehow bad? He was a legit threat to others, and might have killed others if something wasn't done.

gez, you hate him so much you're defending terrorists. I guess if Osama bin ladin was a U.S. citizen you'd be crying that Seal team 6 killed him.

His 16 year old son and 17 year old nephew were also killed 2 weeks later, along with 9 other civilians and an undisclosed number of alleged no-name Al Qaeda members.

why?

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#96  Edited By surrealnumber5
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@MakeMeaSammitch: according to who? and to your question for sun, why indeed?

you do not seem to get the whole judicial process and its purpose.

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#97 Master_Live
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@surrealnumber5 said:

@MakeMeaSammitch: according to who? and to your question for sun, why indeed?

you do not seem to get the whole judicial process and its purpose.

Well, you see man. If a guy is really-really-really bad, the Constitution doesn't apply to him.

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#98 -Sun_Tzu-
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@MakeMeaSammitch said:

@-Sun_Tzu- said:

@MakeMeaSammitch said:

@surrealnumber5 said:

@MakeMeaSammitch: Anwar al-Awlaki, no that child did not deserve to be murdered because he was well tanned with curly hair.

how can a person who sucks so much obama dick know so little about him?

He killed an islamic militant and that's somehow bad? He was a legit threat to others, and might have killed others if something wasn't done.

gez, you hate him so much you're defending terrorists. I guess if Osama bin ladin was a U.S. citizen you'd be crying that Seal team 6 killed him.

His 16 year old son and 17 year old nephew were also killed 2 weeks later, along with 9 other civilians and an undisclosed number of alleged no-name Al Qaeda members.

why?

That's a great question.

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#99 MakeMeaSammitch
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@Master_Live said:

@surrealnumber5 said:

@MakeMeaSammitch: according to who? and to your question for sun, why indeed?

you do not seem to get the whole judicial process and its purpose.

Well, you see man. If a guy is really-really-really bad, the Constitution doesn't apply to him.

If somebody points a gun at you, do you not have the right to kill to defend yourself?

Similar case. If that man wasn't killed, he would have killed others.

Just seems silly to me. Protect the killer who will probably go and kill innocent civilians.

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#100  Edited By MakeMeaSammitch
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@surrealnumber5 said:

@MakeMeaSammitch: according to who? and to your question for sun, why indeed?

you do not seem to get the whole judicial process and its purpose.

sometimes police officers have to put people down who are a threat to others.

same thing right?