Is It Constitutional To Ban Happy Meals?

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#1 dunl12496
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HECK NO!! This is absolutely RIDICULOUS! Freedom of business! You can't do that! ******* idiots.

What do you think? In a calmer manner.... no I do not believe so.

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#2 chessmaster1989
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"Freedom of business" isn't in the Constitution...
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#3 gamerguru100
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I think that San Francisco law is stupid, too.

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#4 testfactor888
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I think that San Francisco law is stupid

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agreed 100%
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#5 quetzalcoatI
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We don't ban most things in America. We just strap burdensome regulations on them until it is no longer worth partaking in said thing or activity.

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#6 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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What do you expect from San Francisco?

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#7 chessmaster1989
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For everyone voting "no," why exactly is it unconstitutional?
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#8 DJ-Lafleur
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"Freedom of business" isn't in the Constitution...chessmaster1989

but what about the "pursuit to happiness", dammit! :cry:

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#9 Shindiggah
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I believe it is unconstitutional to ban them all together, however I believe it is perfectly constitutional to tell mcdonalds that they need to make there meals healthier if they want them to appeal to children.
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#10 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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For everyone voting "no," why exactly is it unconstitutional?chessmaster1989

Please tell me you seriously don't think Happy Meals should be banned. Hypothetically, I mean, since they aren't banned right now.

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#11 gamerguru100
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For everyone voting "no," why exactly is it unconstitutional?chessmaster1989
Well, I think it's up to the parents to what goes into their kid's stomach.
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#12 dunl12496
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"Freedom of business" isn't in the Constitution...chessmaster1989

Yeah I know. :P

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#13 GabuEx
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San Francisco did not ban happy meals, and I am annoyed by the fact that people think it did. :P

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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]For everyone voting "no," why exactly is it unconstitutional?gamerguru100
Well, I think it's up to the parents to what goes into their kid's stomach.

haha parents. This country wouldn't have half its problems if parents were willing and able to raise their children well...
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#15 dunl12496
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]"Freedom of business" isn't in the Constitution...DJ-Lafleur

but what about the "pursuit to happiness", dammit! :cry:

Exactly! 200 pound 9 year olds gotta have fun!

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#16 dunl12496
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San Francisco did not ban happy meals, and I am annoyed by the fact that people think it did. :P

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OH... well poo poo and pee pee. Some other place did though.

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#17 TheMutableOne
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I'm still in shock McDonalds was able to copywrite something as universal as a "happy meal".. now look at us. We can't even eat them because a piece of paper says we're too irresponsible. Oh geeze guys..

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#18 worlock77
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No, it is not unconstitutional.

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I believe it is unconstitutional to ban them all together, however I believe it is perfectly constitutional to tell mcdonalds that they need to make there meals healthier if they want them to appeal to children.Shindiggah

Encouraged by non government organizations you mean. Mcdonalds can do whatever the heck they want with food I say.

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#20 chessmaster1989
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]For everyone voting "no," why exactly is it unconstitutional?airshocker

Please tell me you seriously don't think Happy Meals should be banned. Hypothetically, I mean, since they aren't banned right now.

That's a different issue entirely. The poll question is one of the constitutionality of the ban, not a question of whether or not the ban should exist.

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#21 DJ_Lae
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Constitutional? No idea, I'm not American and not held up by that document. Reasonable? God no. It's up to parents whether they inject **bleep** into their children's mouths, not McDonalds. The government shouldn't be telling what McDonalds can and can not put on their menu.
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#22 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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That's a different issue entirely. The poll question is one of the constitutionality of the ban, not a question of whether or not the ban should exist.

chessmaster1989

We're not talking about the poll. I'm asking you a question.

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#23 worlock77
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[QUOTE="Shindiggah"]I believe it is unconstitutional to ban them all together, however I believe it is perfectly constitutional to tell mcdonalds that they need to make there meals healthier if they want them to appeal to children.dunl12496

Encouraged by non government organizations you mean. Mcdonalds can do whatever the heck they want with food I say.

So if they wanted to undercook their food to cause an ecoli outbreak that would be cool?

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#24 quetzalcoatI
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[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"]Constitutional? No idea, I'm not American and not held up by that document. Reasonable? God no. It's up to parents whether they inject **bleep** into their children's mouths, not McDonalds. The government shouldn't be telling what McDonalds can and can not put on their menu.

They are not really telling them what they can put on their menu as much as they are restricting how they market what is on their menu. Happy meals are obviously marketed toward children (because they include toys), so if mcdonalds wants to continue marketing it towards kids by including a toy as incentive then they have to make it healthier. They could still sell the same meal, but just not include a toy if I understand it correctly.
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#26 chessmaster1989
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

That's a different issue entirely. The poll question is one of the constitutionality of the ban, not a question of whether or not the ban should exist.

airshocker

We're not talking about the poll. I'm asking you a question.

No strong opinion on the issue either way. Arguments from both sides have merits. In all honesty though I do think there are more effective ways at addressing child obesity.

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No strong opinion on the issue either way. Arguments from both sides have merits. In all honesty though I do think there are more effective ways at addressing child obesity.

chessmaster1989

Can they force businesses to include fruits and vegetables with the possibility of banning them if they don't comply? I'm sure they could. Should they? I don't think so. I think it's needless government intervention that won't do anything in the long-run. It's irresponsibility that, I think, is to blame. The government can't stop that no matter how much money they throw at it.

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#28 Theokhoth
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there is no "freedom of business" in the Constitution. And, as such, it is not unconstitutional.
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I don't know. If it's constitutional to ban weed, I guess I don't see why it should be unconstitutional to ban Happy Meals. Weird and uncalled for, probably. Unconstitutional, probably not. Then again, I'm not exactly an expert in constitutional law, so what the heck do I know?

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#30 coolbeans90
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I am not aware of how exactly one could argue banning Happy Meals is unconstitutional. That doesn't change the fact that the San Francisco ban is absolutely absurd.

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#31 GabuEx
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I am not aware of how exactly one could argue banning Happy Meals is unconstitutional. That doesn't change the fact that the San Francisco ban is absolutely absurd.

coolbeans90

Once again, San Francisco did not ban happy meals.

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#32 fidosim
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We are endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights, including the pursuit of happiness. How can we pursue happiness without happy meals? Jesus.
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#33 quetzalcoatI
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there is no "freedom of business" in the Constitution. And, as such, it is not unconstitutional.Theokhoth
so it is not unconstitutional for the gov't to ban business?
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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

I am not aware of how exactly one could argue banning Happy Meals is unconstitutional. That doesn't change the fact that the San Francisco ban is absolutely absurd.

GabuEx

Once again, San Francisco did not ban happy meals.

No toy = No happy in the happy meal = San Francisco banned the happy!
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[QUOTE="Shindiggah"]I believe it is unconstitutional to ban them all together, however I believe it is perfectly constitutional to tell mcdonalds that they need to make there meals healthier if they want them to appeal to children.dunl12496

Encouraged by non government organizations you mean. Mcdonalds can do whatever the heck they want with food I say.

yeah , non governmental naturally they cannot force them to change there menu and how they run there business, but the right of freedom of speech belongs to everybody.
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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

I am not aware of how exactly one could argue banning Happy Meals is unconstitutional. That doesn't change the fact that the San Francisco ban is absolutely absurd.

GabuEx

Once again, San Francisco did not ban happy meals.

It's not a happy meal without the toy, dude. It's just a miserable kid's meal.

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#37 GabuEx
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

I am not aware of how exactly one could argue banning Happy Meals is unconstitutional. That doesn't change the fact that the San Francisco ban is absolutely absurd.

coolbeans90

Once again, San Francisco did not ban happy meals.

It's not a happy meal without the toy, dude. It's just a miserable kid's meal.

And they're completely free to provide a toy if they also provide a healthier alternative.

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#38 UT_Wrestler
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They didn't ban happy meals, they just banned putting toys in kids meals that don't meet certain nutritional guidelines. Still dumb, and even most liberal journalists think its ridiculous. We don't need the government to protect us from ourselves.
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#39 GabuEx
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They didn't ban happy meals, they just banned putting toys in kids meals that don't meet certain nutritional guidelines. Still dumb, and even most liberal journalists think its ridiculous. We don't need the government to protect us from ourselves.UT_Wrestler

No, but given the state of parenting today I'm starting to warm up to the idea that we need the government to protect our kids from ourselves. :P

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#40 dunl12496
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[QUOTE="dunl12496"]

[QUOTE="Shindiggah"]I believe it is unconstitutional to ban them all together, however I believe it is perfectly constitutional to tell mcdonalds that they need to make there meals healthier if they want them to appeal to children.worlock77

Encouraged by non government organizations you mean. Mcdonalds can do whatever the heck they want with food I say.

So if they wanted to undercook their food to cause an ecoli outbreak that would be cool?

No, eat mcdonalds kids meal once and you won't be deathly ill. It's schools fault more than mcdonalds.

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#41 needled24-7
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doesn't sound very constitutional, but maybe there's some loopholes they're going through in order to do this. either way, i think it's wrong for mcdonalds to "bribe" people into buying their food (or any other fastfood place that does it as well). but i do think they should be able to do it. it's up to parents to choose what to feed their kids, and if their kids become obese because of it, then so be it. the kid can lose the weight if they don't like it enough.

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#42 coolbeans90
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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Once again, San Francisco did not ban happy meals.

GabuEx

It's not a happy meal without the toy, dude. It's just a miserable kid's meal.

And they're completely free to provide a toy if they also provide a healthier alternative.

I never claimed otherwise. Doesn't change the fact that they banned at the very least, the current version of the happy meal.

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Whatever slows McDonald's and its empire of dirt food.
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..........I think it would be far more productive in banning all junk food, cola and the like from the public school cafeterias.. As well as making PE mandatory at all levels, and every semester.. One of the huge problems is the fact of how inactive kids have become.
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..........I think it would be far more productive in banning all junk food, cola and the like from the public school cafeterias.. As well as making PE mandatory at all levels, and every semester.. One of the huge problems is the fact of how inactive kids have become.sSubZerOo

Exactly. Back in high school which was only 4 years ago. We did worksheets the ENTIRE Class. It was ridiculous.

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#46 deactivated-5a79221380856
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It is constitutional because it's a states' right issue and not a concern of the federal government's. I don't know if it will work, but if does, good for California.
..........I think it would be far more productive in banning all junk food, cola and the like from the public school cafeterias.. As well as making PE mandatory at all levels, and every semester.. One of the huge problems is the fact of how inactive kids have become.sSubZerOo
I agree. Parents don't do what they should for their children. Government can't force the parents to do that, but they can prevent unhealthy eating by regulating the cafeteria and making them take regular physical education.
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#47 weezyfb
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No, it is not unconstitutional.
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#48 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Not quite sure what this is suppose to solve.. McDonald's has literally gone lightyears ahead in making their food much more healthy or reduce calories.. People seem to ignore that now a days when they do ratings on healthiness of foods.. Fast foods like McDonald's score extremely well.. And its the sit down chain businesses like Chile's which are extremely bad for you.. And I am going to expect thats going to be the same case for really any sit down place chain or non chain because they have no where near the scrutiny fast food has had.
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#49 Feryraiser
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"Freedom of business" isn't in the Constitution...chessmaster1989

yeah tc u thinking about freedom of speech

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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]"Freedom of business" isn't in the Constitution...Feryraiser

yeah tc u thinking about freedom of speech

No, I just don't care. :P