http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC3TeH6B0DE
What do you make of this?
Personally I can't blame the dad for reacting that way...
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What possessed that guy to kick the kid?
Anyway I dunno. I don't think it was necessary to knock the guy out, but it was definitely an understandable knee-jerk reaction.
I think this sort of random violence is NOT justified. It would be the equivelant of the police just happening to see the guy punching out the autistic guy and open fire on him. I guess in a law case, it would justifiable, but that man should have known better.
The autistic guy is really like a child, what happened is the equivalent of a 13 year old lightly kicking a 5 year old and then the father of the 5 year old to knock out the 13 year old. Some of you may think it would the cool but in reality, it's quite barbaric and NOT how you solve things.
I think this sort of random violence is NOT justified. It would be the equivelant of the police just happening to see the guy punching out the autistic guy and open fire on him. I guess in a law case, it would justifiable, but that man should have known better. munu9You're not taking into account the "Parent Defense Mode". When someone sees someone hurt their child on purpose, stuff goes down.
I think this sort of random violence is NOT justified. It would be the equivelant of the police just happening to see the guy punching out the autistic guy and open fire on him. I guess in a law case, it would justifiable, but that man should have known better. munu9Hmm... it may not have been best thing to do, but it was at least understandable.
[QUOTE="Big_player"]Same thing any dad would've done, it's simply the natural urge to protect your child.munu9
Yes, knock out first, then ask questions
If thats sarcams and your actually willing to stop and ask questions to a guy who has the intent to hurt your child then you'll be a worse father then the man in the video.
[QUOTE="munu9"]I think this sort of random violence is NOT justified. It would be the equivelant of the police just happening to see the guy punching out the autistic guy and open fire on him. I guess in a law case, it would justifiable, but that man should have known better. Notsogr8oneYou're not taking into account the "Parent Defense Mode". When someone sees someone hurt their child on purpose, stuff goes down.
The thing is, it wasn't on purpose, the autistic man really does not understand better. And father of the child should have at least resorted to harsh words (which probably would have been enough to stop the autistic man) before he resorted to harsh voilence. It's not like the kid was crying because he got injured, the kid wasn't really hurt at all, just stunned.
You're not taking into account the "Parent Defense Mode". When someone sees someone hurt their child on purpose, stuff goes down.[QUOTE="Notsogr8one"][QUOTE="munu9"]I think this sort of random violence is NOT justified. It would be the equivelant of the police just happening to see the guy punching out the autistic guy and open fire on him. I guess in a law case, it would justifiable, but that man should have known better. munu9
The thing is, it wasn't on purpose, the autistic man really does not understand better. And father of the child should have at least resorted to harsh words (which probably would have been enough to stop the autistic man) before he resorted to harsh voilence. It's not like the kid was crying because he got injured, the kid wasn't really hurt at all, just stunned.
thats prime bs right there
you dont think the autistic guy hasnt been told not to be violent?
what about the responsibility of the care taker? Why did he bring him out?
Words dont always solve problems, which is why we have fists.
[QUOTE="munu9"][QUOTE="Big_player"]Same thing any dad would've done, it's simply the natural urge to protect your child.Big_player
Yes, knock out first, then ask questions
If thats sarcams and your actually willing to stop and ask questions to a guy who has the intent to hurt your child then you'll be a worse father then the man in the video.
I would at least push him back and stop him in a defensive way. Plus, punching the man out isn't exactly setting the best example for the kid.
OH MY GOD. What have you done?!? The Photoshoppers will be here any time now!FALCON PUNCH!!!
Jakendo
[QUOTE="Big_player"][QUOTE="munu9"][QUOTE="Big_player"]Same thing any dad would've done, it's simply the natural urge to protect your child.munu9
Yes, knock out first, then ask questions
If thats sarcams and your actually willing to stop and ask questions to a guy who has the intent to hurt your child then you'll be a worse father then the man in the video.
I would at least push him back and stop him in a defensive way. Plus, punching the man out isn't exactly setting the best example for the kid.
on the contrary, I think its setting an excellent example for the kid.
not only does it show that his dad isnt a sissy, it also shows that people have boundaries and you cant let everything slide
its all part of being a man.
You're not taking into account the "Parent Defense Mode". When someone sees someone hurt their child on purpose, stuff goes down.[QUOTE="Notsogr8one"][QUOTE="munu9"]I think this sort of random violence is NOT justified. It would be the equivelant of the police just happening to see the guy punching out the autistic guy and open fire on him. I guess in a law case, it would justifiable, but that man should have known better. munu9
The thing is, it wasn't on purpose, the autistic man really does not understand better. And father of the child should have at least resorted to harsh words (which probably would have been enough to stop the autistic man) before he resorted to harsh voilence. It's not like the kid was crying because he got injured, the kid wasn't really hurt at all, just stunned.
Yeah, but it could be that half second that resulted in the child's death. If the man knew the guy had down-syndrome then what he did was completely wrong but it seems that he had no idea and hence I find it justifiable (though not necessarily right). I feel bad for the punched guy, and understand what you're saying, but when it comes to the safety of your child you act quickly and decisively.[QUOTE="Big_player"][QUOTE="munu9"][QUOTE="Big_player"]Same thing any dad would've done, it's simply the natural urge to protect your child.munu9
Yes, knock out first, then ask questions
If thats sarcams and your actually willing to stop and ask questions to a guy who has the intent to hurt your child then you'll be a worse father then the man in the video.
I would at least push him back and stop him in a defensive way. Plus, punching the man out isn't exactly setting the best example for the kid.
You're not taking into account the "Parent Defense Mode". When someone sees someone hurt their child on purpose, stuff goes down.[QUOTE="Notsogr8one"][QUOTE="munu9"]I think this sort of random violence is NOT justified. It would be the equivelant of the police just happening to see the guy punching out the autistic guy and open fire on him. I guess in a law case, it would justifiable, but that man should have known better. munu9
The thing is, it wasn't on purpose, the autistic man really does not understand better. And father of the child should have at least resorted to harsh words (which probably would have been enough to stop the autistic man) before he resorted to harsh voilence. It's not like the kid was crying because he got injured, the kid wasn't really hurt at all, just stunned.
your not gonna be thinking that when your in that situation. Your gonna see a man kick your son you dont know what he is gonna do next. Its a random guy who is gonna hurt your son if your gonna stop him with words then god help you.thats prime bs right there nope
you dont think the autistic guy hasnt been told not to be violent?
what about the responsibility of the care taker? Why did he bring him out? Wasn't it the responsibility of the father to prevent his child from getting hurt? Neither the father or caretaker could have stopped what happened.
Words dont always solve problems, which is why we have fists. Do you understand the only person who got injured in that incident was the autistic man, do you think that's a proper way to solve a problem?
Super_Socialist
[QUOTE="munu9"][QUOTE="Big_player"][QUOTE="munu9"][QUOTE="Big_player"]Same thing any dad would've done, it's simply the natural urge to protect your child.Super_Socialist
Yes, knock out first, then ask questions
If thats sarcams and your actually willing to stop and ask questions to a guy who has the intent to hurt your child then you'll be a worse father then the man in the video.
I would at least push him back and stop him in a defensive way. Plus, punching the man out isn't exactly setting the best example for the kid.
on the contrary, I think its setting an excellent example for the kid.
not only does it show that his dad isnt a sissy, it also shows that people have boundaries and you cant let everything slide
its all part of being a man.
Yup, knocking people out in front of kids sets a great example to them. :roll: Someone post a facepalm pic, I can't be bothered to.your not gonna be thinking that when your in that situation. Your gonna see a man kick your son you dont know what he is gonna do next. Its a random guy who is gonna hurt your son if your gonna stop him with words then god help you.NetYankEagle
Yes but again, how injured was the son, was he crying on the flow, knocked out? No, the only person who got knocked out was the autistic man. Even if it was justified, it was too extreme of a response
[QUOTE="munu9"][QUOTE="Big_player"][QUOTE="munu9"][QUOTE="Big_player"]Same thing any dad would've done, it's simply the natural urge to protect your child.Super_Socialist
Yes, knock out first, then ask questions
If thats sarcams and your actually willing to stop and ask questions to a guy who has the intent to hurt your child then you'll be a worse father then the man in the video.
I would at least push him back and stop him in a defensive way. Plus, punching the man out isn't exactly setting the best example for the kid.
on the contrary, I think its setting an excellent example for the kid.
not only does it show that his dad isnt a sissy, it also shows that people have boundaries and you cant let everything slide
its all part of being a man.
It's all part of having a 14 year old's mentallity :)
[QUOTE="Super_Socialist"]thats prime bs right there nope
you dont think the autistic guy hasnt been told not to be violent?
what about the responsibility of the care taker? Why did he bring him out? Wasn't it the responsibility of the father to prevent his child from getting hurt? Neither the father or caretaker could have stopped what happened.
Words dont always solve problems, which is why we have fists. Do you understand the only person who got injured in that incident was the autistic man, do you think that's a proper way to solve a problem?
munu9
the kid didnt do anything wrong. the kid just went into the store. The father needs to take his kid out because the kid is growing up and learning how to socialize with people. The mentally handicapped person shouldnt have been in public at the risk of what actually happened.
yes I do realize that, and I think that its justified.
when I have kids, and if I find someone kicking him you bet your ass im gonna do the same. I would expect my kids to do the same with their kids.
If you knew he had down syndrome it's reasonable because then he probably kicked him out for no specific reason, but by the looks of it the father had no idea he had down syndrome and thought it was a sane person with intent to hurt his child. Any father would want to stop the person, not go into a defensive position and slow him down.Big_player
But again, the swiftness of the voilence was too extreme in my opinion. Unlike other people, I guess my opinion of how much force to use when you need to defend someone in the situation is different. I honestly believe I would have yelled and picked up my child or at least pushed the other guy down than going all out and puching him out.
[QUOTE="Super_Socialist"]thats prime bs right there nope
you dont think the autistic guy hasnt been told not to be violent?
what about the responsibility of the care taker? Why did he bring him out? Wasn't it the responsibility of the father to prevent his child from getting hurt? Neither the father or caretaker could have stopped what happened.
Words dont always solve problems, which is why we have fists. Do you understand the only person who got injured in that incident was the autistic man, do you think that's a proper way to solve a problem?
munu9
ok lets say your out with your kid. then some random guy comes up to your kid and kicks him.....what are you ganna do?
what the father did was 100% right
[QUOTE="Super_Socialist"][QUOTE="munu9"][QUOTE="Big_player"][QUOTE="munu9"][QUOTE="Big_player"]Same thing any dad would've done, it's simply the natural urge to protect your child.Funky_Llama
Yes, knock out first, then ask questions
If thats sarcams and your actually willing to stop and ask questions to a guy who has the intent to hurt your child then you'll be a worse father then the man in the video.
I would at least push him back and stop him in a defensive way. Plus, punching the man out isn't exactly setting the best example for the kid.
on the contrary, I think its setting an excellent example for the kid.
not only does it show that his dad isnt a sissy, it also shows that people have boundaries and you cant let everything slide
its all part of being a man.
Yup, knocking people out in front of kids sets a great example to them. :roll: Someone post a facepalm pic, I can't be bothered to.I assume your one of those left wing types who thinks defending youself and your family is wrong.
[QUOTE="NetYankEagle"]your not gonna be thinking that when your in that situation. Your gonna see a man kick your son you dont know what he is gonna do next. Its a random guy who is gonna hurt your son if your gonna stop him with words then god help you.munu9
Yes but again, how injured was the son, was he crying on the flow, knocked out? No, the only person who got knocked out was the autistic man. Even if it was justified, it was too extreme of a response
his son wasnt injured cause the dad was being a dad and stepped in to defend his son jesus i dont know why you continue with this. We all know that the man had down syndrome because we were told that father didnt know im not gonna assume a person kicking my child had Down Syndrome i do the same ish to defend him.[QUOTE="Big_player"]
If you knew he had down syndrome it's reasonable because then he probably kicked him out for no specific reason, but by the looks of it the father had no idea he had down syndrome and thought it was a sane person with intent to hurt his child. Any father would want to stop the person, not go into a defensive position and slow him down.munu9
But again, the swiftness of the voilence was too extreme in my opinion. Unlike other people, I guess my opinion of how much force to use when you need to defend someone in the situation is different. I honestly believe I would have yelled and picked up my child or at least pushed the other guy down than going all out and puching him out.
:lol: yelling and picking up your child is sumtin the mom should do.[QUOTE="Big_player"]
If you knew he had down syndrome it's reasonable because then he probably kicked him out for no specific reason, but by the looks of it the father had no idea he had down syndrome and thought it was a sane person with intent to hurt his child. Any father would want to stop the person, not go into a defensive position and slow him down.munu9
But again, the swiftness of the voilence was too extreme in my opinion. Unlike other people, I guess my opinion of how much force to use when you need to defend someone in the situation is different. I honestly believe I would have yelled and picked up my child or at least pushed the other guy down than going all out and puching him out.
I agree that, your way would be more reasonable if there was time to think about the situation, but sometimes as a parent you need to make a decision in a split second when your child is in danger.
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