Guy with Down syndrome gets KO'd for kicking 4 year old

[QUOTE="Cloud_Insurance"][QUOTE="Leejjohno"][QUOTE="Cloud_Insurance"][QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

That means that it would be okay for you to hit him so hard that he dies. You can also see in the video that the kick seemed to be somewhat held back, which is something worth observing by the father. I know that if anybody here had truly thrown a kick a child of that size would have been seriously injured, but he didn't even fall over.

I would also point out in this country people don't sue each other quite as much, nor is assualt blown out of proportion. I'm not sure which law for assault that would come under but actual bodily harm did not take place. It's more likely to be common assault, in which case the father overreacted.

sSubZerOo

It would be perfectly okay. If someone attacks me with attempt to inflict bodily harm, I can respond with physical attacks to stop that from happening.

It doesn't matter if the guy had downs. Doesn't matter if he held back his kick. Someone hits your child, you're going to lay them out. Its that simple. Its instinctive, its nature, and its perfectly legal to do so.

Forget that he is a child for a second. Excessive force is against the law, because it is excessive. I would even give the dad the benefit of the doubt in the incident, but I would also warn him to gauge the physical force he uses in future. He used excessive force against somebody with downs. Their emotions/temperament are affected by their illness... essentially, not all the blame can be laid on him as he is disadvantaged.

He punched him ONCE. ONCE. Thats not excessive. He did what he had to do to eliminate the threat and left the guy alone after that. The fact that he has downs does not come into play while the incident is happening. Its irrelevant. It explains why the guy attacked the kid, but the father doesn't know that and can't be faulted for not knowing.

Yes it is.. Seeing as a single punch can KIL a person.. Yeah clearly because breaking a guys face in when he could have tackled him to the ground was a MUCH better idea.. So yet again what he did was AGAINST the law, if police had this kind of reaction they would have charges pressed on them all the time..

And a single kick can kill a 4 year old kid. The mentally disabled man already kicked the kid once, and the dad prevented the mentally disabled man from throwing another POTENTIALLY DEADLY kick.

If the dad was white you all would agree with his reaction.

ya'llsis racist!!

[QUOTE="fbigent34"][QUOTE="d51man"][QUOTE="fbigent34"][QUOTE="d51man"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="d51man"]

What threat? The man was harmless. From the time the kid walks into view, he stays in the same stance. He's not even pushed back by the man kicking him. I doubt it even hurt.

d51man

It was assault. You so much as touch another person, especially in that manner, especially toward a kid, and you can legally be charged with assault and lose.

The man wasn't aware of what he was doing? Then he was ten times a greater threat. If he's bold enough to go nudge a kid with his foot due to his Down Syndrome, then what's to stop him from kicking his face in the ground? If he can't tell the difference, then he is an even greater threat to the child.

The father's actions were perfectly justified.

If he didn't hurt the kid the first time, what would motivate him to go back and beat him up? The man probably didn't even know what he was doing. Perhaps he was startled by the kid jumping in like he did, I don't know. But as I've said before, the father's action were not justified. He could have easily resolved the situation by talking, or simply bringing him to the ground, without injuring the other man.

any parent were go to great links to protect there own child. Dude this is america you dont talk about issues anymore. there was no reason what so ever for hte guy to kick a kid. forget he has ds. He a human been and should know right from wrong.

the parent is justifed in this. even cops would say he jusfited.

The issue here is that he has Down Syndrome. Unfortunately, he may not know right from wrong. So we should teach him what is wrong by beating his face in?

Once again forget he has DS. talking about it gets you nowere. if we talk about problems do you know america wouldnt be here today? :|

if he dosent know right from wrong he shouldn't be out in a public place were he can harm people. period. he wasnt being beating up. he was punch in the face once. HIT once. HIT ONCE ONCE ONCE ONCE.

Once again, the issue is that he has DS. So because he's mentally challenged, he shouldn't be allowed to go out? That's not very fair. What are the parents going to do, lock him up in the house?

If his caretaker is unable to prevent him from kicking people's children, then no. He absolutely SHOULDN'T be allowed to go out. If you want to complain about what's fair, then complain to God for giving the guy down's syndrome in the first place. But it's certainly not fair to the PUBLIC to have to endure beatings by a man just because he happens to be mentally disabled.

Um, obviously there was a problem that needed to be resolved. Don't you think a more responsible adult would have resolved the situation in a more mature way? That's like saying "HEY! You tapped my child with your foot! I'm going to beat your face in for it!"

d51man

If ANYONE touched my kid and that contact was UNWARRANTED and/or UNWANTED I would drop them, no questions asked...as would any sane parent outside of the crazy hippies that have been posting here. It doesn't matter how hard they touched my kid or not. You absolutely do not touch kids. Period.

Yes it is.. Seeing as a single punch can KIL a person.. Yeah clearly because breaking a guys face in when he could have tackled him to the ground was a MUCH better idea.. So yet again what he did was AGAINST the law, if police had this kind of reaction they would have charges pressed on them all the time..

sSubZerOo

No it wasn't. He used force to eliminate the threat. Thats it. He punched him and left him alone. He didn't seriously injure the guy nor did he continue to attack the guy after he was no longer a threat.

If police had that kind of reaction? Um, if you kick a police officer, they can take out their night stick and do what is necessary to stop you from continuing to pose a threat. Again, you don't know what you are talking about. Cops do get charges against them all the time when it comes to the use of force, but outside of the rare cases where the cop actually screws up, the law and the courts side with the police who have the right to protect themselves and innocents from harm.

he probably diddnt know the guy had down syndrome and it looked like some random guy kicked his kid in the dads eyes so i could see why you would straight up punch the guy.

pretty much what my dad would have dome.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Yes it is.. Seeing as a single punch can KIL a person.. Yeah clearly because breaking a guys face in when he could have tackled him to the ground was a MUCH better idea.. So yet again what he did was AGAINST the law, if police had this kind of reaction they would have charges pressed on them all the time..

Cloud_Insurance

No it wasn't. He used force to eliminate the threat. Thats it. He punched him and left him alone. He didn't seriously injure the guy nor did he continue to attack the guy after he was no longer a threat.

If police had that kind of reaction? Um, if you kick a police officer, they can take out their night stick and do what is necessary to stop you from continuing to pose a threat. Again, you don't know what you are talking about. Cops do get charges against them all the time when it comes to the use of force, but outside of the rare cases where the cop actually screws up, the law and the courts side with the police who have the right to protect themselves and innocents from harm.

Its not like he knew the guy had downs.

His son is 4 years old, and the downs guy kicks him, I would have done the same thing, if not something similar.

[QUOTE="Cloud_Insurance"][QUOTE="Leejjohno"][QUOTE="Cloud_Insurance"][QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

That means that it would be okay for you to hit him so hard that he dies. You can also see in the video that the kick seemed to be somewhat held back, which is something worth observing by the father. I know that if anybody here had truly thrown a kick a child of that size would have been seriously injured, but he didn't even fall over.

I would also point out in this country people don't sue each other quite as much, nor is assualt blown out of proportion. I'm not sure which law for assault that would come under but actual bodily harm did not take place. It's more likely to be common assault, in which case the father overreacted.

sSubZerOo

It would be perfectly okay. If someone attacks me with attempt to inflict bodily harm, I can respond with physical attacks to stop that from happening.

It doesn't matter if the guy had downs. Doesn't matter if he held back his kick. Someone hits your child, you're going to lay them out. Its that simple. Its instinctive, its nature, and its perfectly legal to do so.

Forget that he is a child for a second. Excessive force is against the law, because it is excessive. I would even give the dad the benefit of the doubt in the incident, but I would also warn him to gauge the physical force he uses in future. He used excessive force against somebody with downs. Their emotions/temperament are affected by their illness... essentially, not all the blame can be laid on him as he is disadvantaged.

He punched him ONCE. ONCE. Thats not excessive. He did what he had to do to eliminate the threat and left the guy alone after that. The fact that he has downs does not come into play while the incident is happening. Its irrelevant. It explains why the guy attacked the kid, but the father doesn't know that and can't be faulted for not knowing.

Yes it is.. Seeing as a single punch can KIL a person.. Yeah clearly because breaking a guys face in when he could have tackled him to the ground was a MUCH better idea.. So yet again what he did was AGAINST the law, if police had this kind of reaction they would have charges pressed on them all the time..

you can kill a guy while tackling him, its why football players wear pads.

unless youre like a 10th degree black belt, you cant kill anyone in one hit

If the dad was white you all would agree with his reaction.

ya'llsis racist!!

esb1118

most people are agreeing, and the ones who didnt only go with the DS guy because hes MORE of a minority.

I think this sort of random violence is NOT justified. It would be the equivelant of the police just happening to see the guy punching out the autistic guy and open fire on him. I guess in a law case, it would justifiable, but that man should have known better.

The autistic guy is really like a child, what happened is the equivalent of a 13 year old lightly kicking a 5 year old and then the father of the 5 year old to knock out the 13 year old. Some of you may think it would the cool but in reality, it's quite barbaric and NOT how you solve things.

munu9

But he didn't even know that the guy had down syndrome.

totally agree with you dog, when you hurt someones child to put it plain and simple, stuff goes down you couldn't of said it better.