For all you people who believe in god?

Why?

Promising paradise and immortality for all those who follow him and threatening damnation and eternal hellfire to those who don't?

What type of savior threatens death, destruction, pain, suffering to those who do not follow him?

I am not an atheist... more of an agnostic... I believe there could be some type of creator or higher power... but I do not follow a religion... but those of you who follow Jesus? Why?

You say that we shouldn't follow evolution because there is no proof... when there is proof... the oil we burn the fossils that fill our museums? If that isn't proof enough for you... then why do you follow something you can't even see or feel?

Right after you tell me to not follow evolution... you turn around and tell me to believe in someone I have never met who died for "my" sins and to follow a several thousand year old book that says I will suffer for all of eternity unless I embrace it...?

What about other religions? Buddhist, Jews, Hindus, Muslims... they have followed their religions for thousands of years? You are telling me that they are wrong and will suffer because of it?

You people who preach your religions sound more like fanatics than faithful. You tell us we will suffer unless we embrace your lord.

All I ask is why?

Here we go...rom11

Don't come in and post then?

well God gave you time to choose your path.....you dont do the homework then be prepared for punishmentmingo123

Exactly... you don't even answer me... and you say I will be punished for not believing in your god... that is what makes me a "non" believer...

[QUOTE="mingo123"]well God gave you time to choose your path.....you dont do the homework then be prepared for punishmentSqueets

Exactly... you don't even answer me... and you say I will be punished for not believing in your god... that is what makes me a "non" believer...

Your choice....

[QUOTE="mingo123"]well God gave you time to choose your path.....you dont do the homework then be prepared for punishmentSqueets

Exactly... you don't even answer me... and you say I will be punished for not believing in your god... that is what makes me a "non" believer...

the same God that put you on Earth, made water for you, did so many things for you.....asks you to just follow him yet you cant...well you gotta pay then :P

Here we go...rom11

right

I'm a Christian who believes in evolution.

Did I break the thread? :(

I believe in God and evolution.

Did I break the thread? :(

Does it matter that people have different opinions to you? flowdee79

yeah i think it does he want everyone to see it his way

I'm a Christian who believes in evolution.

Did I break the thread? :(

Faylette

Nope...

Yeah it is my choice... but you people make it seem like there is only one choice and that is to agree with you and follow your god... why would your god even give us "choice" if the choices we make are wrong?Squeets

I'm sure no one here really cares whether you believe or not. Without choices we'd be robots.:|

[QUOTE="flowdee79"]Does it matter that people have different opinions to you? bsman00

yeah i think it does he want everyone to see it his way

I don't want everyone to see anything my way... I could care less what you believe in or don't believe in... I just want to know some reasons... I am a reason type of person... I want to know the reasons for things... I don't like it simply to "be" a certain way with no explination...

[QUOTE="Faylette"]

I'm a Christian who believes in evolution.

Did I break the thread? :(

Squeets

Nope...

My bad, it looked like a main point.

Also, the religions you listed also believe in Gods (I think a sect of Buddhism does, anyway).

[QUOTE="Squeets"]

[QUOTE="mingo123"]well God gave you time to choose your path.....you dont do the homework then be prepared for punishmentmingo123

Exactly... you don't even answer me... and you say I will be punished for not believing in your god... that is what makes me a "non" believer...

the same God that put you on Earth, made water for you, did so many things for you.....asks you to just follow him yet you cant...well you gotta pay then :P

Yes, Squeets, you must PAY!!

And since when did being a believer in God mean that I dont believe in evolution? This thread fails.flowdee79

I am refurring to the thread where the entire argument of the thread was a person telling the people who read it... that evolution is a lie and that not following god means you are going to burn in hell for all eternity... I am not speaking generally about anyone... just the people who threaten me with death and damnation unless I follow their religion...

[QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="Squeets"]

[QUOTE="mingo123"]well God gave you time to choose your path.....you dont do the homework then be prepared for punishmentrom11

Exactly... you don't even answer me... and you say I will be punished for not believing in your god... that is what makes me a "non" believer...

the same God that put you on Earth, made water for you, did so many things for you.....asks you to just follow him yet you cant...well you gotta pay then :P

Yes, Squeets, you must PAY!!

yup $1 before the end date of teh payment which is tomorrow, if he is late he will get pwned :twisted:

[QUOTE="bsman00"]

[QUOTE="flowdee79"]Does it matter that people have different opinions to you? Squeets

yeah i think it does he want everyone to see it his way

I don't want everyone to see anything my way... I could care less what you believe in or don't believe in... I just want to know some reasons... I am a reason type of person... I want to know the reasons for things... I don't like it simply to "be" a certain way with no explination...

OK OK i smell what your stepin in

[QUOTE="flowdee79"]And since when did being a believer in God mean that I dont believe in evolution? This thread fails.Squeets

I am refurring to the thread where the entire argument of the thread was a person telling the people who read it... that evolution is a lie and that not following god means you are going to burn in hell for all eternity... I am not speaking generally about anyone... just the people who threaten me with death and damnation unless I follow their religion...

who does that?

I am refurring to the thread where the entire argument of the thread was a person telling the people who read it... that evolution is a lie and that not following god means you are going to burn in hell for all eternity... I am not speaking generally about anyone... just the people who threaten me with death and damnation unless I follow their religion... Squeets

You should have made this much, much clearer in your original post.

[QUOTE="Squeets"][QUOTE="Faylette"]

I'm a Christian who believes in evolution.

Did I break the thread? :(

Faylette

Nope...

My bad, it looked like a main point.

Also, the religions you listed also believe in Gods (I think a sect of Buddhism does, anyway).

Yes but a different god than others... and they don't threaten me with eternal damnation for not believing... I am refurring to the religion that say you will burn in hell forever unless you follow Jesus...

[QUOTE="Squeets"]

[QUOTE="flowdee79"]And since when did being a believer in God mean that I dont believe in evolution? This thread fails.mingo123

I am refurring to the thread where the entire argument of the thread was a person telling the people who read it... that evolution is a lie and that not following god means you are going to burn in hell for all eternity... I am not speaking generally about anyone... just the people who threaten me with death and damnation unless I follow their religion...

who does that?

LINK

This guy...

Yes but a different god than others... and they don't threaten me with eternal damnation for not believing... I am refurring to the religion that say you will burn in hell forever unless you follow Jesus...Squeets

Hey, every religion has its crazies, it's not exclusive to Christianity. :P

Yes but a different god than others... and they don't threaten me with eternal damnation for not believing... I am refurring to the religion that say you will burn in hell forever unless you follow Jesus...

Squeets

And? Believe what you want. Doesn't give you the right to tell people to believe what you do.

[QUOTE="Squeets"]

Yes but a different god than others... and they don't threaten me with eternal damnation for not believing... I am refurring to the religion that say you will burn in hell forever unless you follow Jesus...

LJS9502_basic

And? Believe what you want. Doesn't give you the right to tell people to believe what you do.

Pretty much. You have your own choices, you don;t have to force it on others, because if you do you are being hypocritical in the way that you are trying to say that Christians force their religion on people through fear.

[QUOTE="Squeets"]

Yes but a different god than others... and they don't threaten me with eternal damnation for not believing... I am refurring to the religion that say you will burn in hell forever unless you follow Jesus...

LJS9502_basic

And? Believe what you want. Doesn't give you the right to tell people to believe what you do.

Pretty much. You have your own choices, you don;t have to force it on others, because if you do you are being hypocritical in the way that you are trying to say that Christians force their religion on people through fear.

That was aimed at Squeets... just to clarify that...

[QUOTE="Squeets"]Yes but a different god than others... and they don't threaten me with eternal damnation for not believing... I am refurring to the religion that say you will burn in hell forever unless you follow Jesus...Faylette

Hey, every religion has its crazies, it's not exclusive to Christianity. :P

Oh I know that... I have just had more Christians threaten me with death that all the other religions combined... (Face to Face of Coarse...) I know about the Jihad that says all muslims should kill any and all Americans as they see fit... I have yet to meet a muslim that has come up to me and threatened me though... While on the other hand I have met plenty Christians that do that...

[QUOTE="Squeets"]Yes but a different god than others... and they don't threaten me with eternal damnation for not believing... I am refurring to the religion that say you will burn in hell forever unless you follow Jesus...Faylette

Hey, every religion has its crazies, it's not exclusive to Christianity. :P

Oh I know that... I have just had more Christians threaten me with death thaN all the other religions combined... (Face to Face of Coarse...) I know about the Jihad that says all muslims should kill any and all Americans as they see fit... I have yet to meet a muslim that has come up to me and threatened me though... While on the other hand I have met plenty Christians that do that...

God is real but not like most may think and disrespecting others belief in good is just pure evil

I'm catholic, do I follow everything that is said to me while I'm at church? No, do I believe in everything that is the bible or the teaching of my religon? No, but I do believe that there is something, what it is I don't know. I do know one thing though is you gotta have some kind of faith. All I have to say is this when you have one of the smartest man ever to live saying this.....

"A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty, which are only accessible to our reason in their most elementary forms-it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense, and in this alone, I am a deeply religious man."

....thats telling you something. That quote came from Albert Einstein.

I'm catholic, do I follow everything that is said to me while I'm at church? No, do I believe in everything that is the bible or the teaching of my religon? No, but I do believe that there is something, what it is I don't know. I do know one thing though is you gotta have some kind of faith. All I have to say is this when you have one of the smartest man saying this.....

"A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty, which are only accessible to our reason in their most elementary forms-it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense, and in this alone, I am a deeply religious man."

Thats tell you something. That quote came from Albert Einstein.

[QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="Squeets"]

[QUOTE="flowdee79"]And since when did being a believer in God mean that I dont believe in evolution? This thread fails.Squeets

I am refurring to the thread where the entire argument of the thread was a person telling the people who read it... that evolution is a lie and that not following god means you are going to burn in hell for all eternity... I am not speaking generally about anyone... just the people who threaten me with death and damnation unless I follow their religion...

who does that?

LINK

This guy...

that guy was trolling, he said it himself

Oh I know that... I have just had more Christians threaten me with death that all the other religions combined... (Face to Face of Coarse...) I know about the Jihad that says all muslims should kill any and all Americans as they see fit... I have yet to meet a muslim that has come up to me and threatened me though... While on the other hand I have met plenty Christians that do that...

Squeets

Christians walk up to you...tell you they are Christian and state they are going to kill you? I do not believe that. At all.

I'm catholic, do I follow everything that is said to me while I'm at church? No, do I believe in everything that is the bible or the teaching of my religon? No, but I do believe that there is something, what it is I don't know. I do know one thing though is you gotta have some kind of faith. All I have to say is this when you have one of the smartest man saying this.....

"A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty, which are only accessible to our reason in their most elementary forms-it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense, and in this alone, I am a deeply religious man."

Thats tell you something. That quote came from Albert Einstein.

xscrapzx

what type of Christian is he who does not follow his religion properly?

I'm catholic, do I follow everything that is said to me while I'm at church? No, do I believe in everything that is the bible or the teaching of my religon? No, but I do believe that there is something, what it is I don't know. I do know one thing though is you gotta have some kind of faith. All I have to say is this when you have one of the smartest man ever to live saying this.....

"A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty, which are only accessible to our reason in their most elementary forms-it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense, and in this alone, I am a deeply religious man."

....thats telling you something. That quote came from Albert Einstein.

xscrapzx

Thank you... a Real answer... that sheds some light on this situation...

[QUOTE="Squeets"]Yes but a different god than others... and they don't threaten me with eternal damnation for not believing... I am refurring to the religion that say you will burn in hell forever unless you follow Jesus...Faylette

Hey, every religion has its crazies, it's not exclusive to Christianity. :P

every religion except Isalam, agreed

[QUOTE="Squeets"]Yes but a different god than others... and they don't threaten me with eternal damnation for not believing... I am refurring to the religion that say you will burn in hell forever unless you follow Jesus...Faylette

Hey, every religion has its crazies, it's not exclusive to Christianity. :P

every religion except Islam, agreed

Christians walk up to you...tell you they are Christian and state they are going to kill you? I do not believe that. At all.

LJS9502_basic

Awesome mental image lol...

[QUOTE="Squeets"]

Oh I know that... I have just had more Christians threaten me with death that all the other religions combined... (Face to Face of Coarse...) I know about the Jihad that says all muslims should kill any and all Americans as they see fit... I have yet to meet a muslim that has come up to me and threatened me though... While on the other hand I have met plenty Christians that do that...

LJS9502_basic

Christians walk up to you...tell you they are Christian and state they are going to kill you? I do not believe that. At all.

No... they walk up to me... tell me they are Christian... and tell me that I will burn in hell forever unless I embrace their god... I had cancer and I was in a hospital for over 11 months... and at least once a week I had a christian preacher from a local church come to my room and praise his god and tell me to accept my end and accept his god or I would burn in hell forever when I died...

I ignored this and continued my treatment and I am not cancer free... that was almost a decade ago...

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Squeets"]

Oh I know that... I have just had more Christians threaten me with death that all the other religions combined... (Face to Face of Coarse...) I know about the Jihad that says all muslims should kill any and all Americans as they see fit... I have yet to meet a muslim that has come up to me and threatened me though... While on the other hand I have met plenty Christians that do that...

Squeets

Christians walk up to you...tell you they are Christian and state they are going to kill you? I do not believe that. At all.

No... they walk up to me... tell me they are Christian... and tell me that I will burn in hell forever unless I embrace their god... I had cancer and I was in a hospital for over 11 months... and at least once a week I had a christian preacher from a local church come to my room and praise his god and tell me to accept my end and accept his god or I would burn in hell forever when I died...

I ignored this and continued my treatment and I am not cancer free... that was almost a decade ago...

Just tell them to **** off. Simple, isnt it?

[QUOTE="Faylette"]

[QUOTE="Squeets"]Yes but a different god than others... and they don't threaten me with eternal damnation for not believing... I am refurring to the religion that say you will burn in hell forever unless you follow Jesus...mingo123

Hey, every religion has its crazies, it's not exclusive to Christianity. :P

every religion except Islam, agreed

Do Muslim extremists count as crazies?